Because you or someone else installed both OSes on one partition, and it seems easier than starting over?

Just to see if it will work? (kind of, but not well). etc. 

Thank you very much for the explanation! Stopped me from running yet another series of tests here to examine if maybe there were some advantage(s) to doing this. Always on the lookout here for workarounds, modifications and things we might not have thought of before, especially with the (little monsters) G4 Mac minis. 

the general rule with the mini OS9 is that you should avoid all the hassle, disadvantages and required learning steps to have a dual boot situation on the internal HD - and simply use an external disk for OSX.

then holding alt or using the startup disk panel works as they should, and you do not need to turn on brain before sunday morning breakfast.

Well, I’ve had my Sunday morning breakfast and I should know the answer to this, but… is it necessary to first “Safe Boot” any external Tiger (or Leopard) install in order to prevent Spotlight and /or Time Machine from interfering with the internal OS 9 installation?

You know, the usual BTree errors? 

https://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=5108.msg36796#msg36796

It was an interesting reading. I attended protests today on No Kings Day, one of the 20,000 in my small city that lined the major boulevard here for 40 blocks on both sides, and in downtown in the richest part of the city.   It was my first protest since HIV/AIDS in the early 1990s. While I felt like I was the oldest one there, I know I wasn't, yet the feeling was one of rebellion.

I was talking to a friend of mine and we both realized we had this same feeling, which drove us both to the No Kings Protest. 

I doubt we had any effect, but it takes more than a single protest to drive change. I just hope it changes before I am feeble.

Well, using Interweb on my G4 running 10.5.8, every video I have played has worked just fine. Now it doesn't support it in the browser--I have to download it instead which takes just seconds. f

Funny to watch my former boss praising the 128K. Man how young he was then reminded me how young I was!

Because you or someone else installed both OSes on one partition, and it seems easier than starting over?

Just to see if it will work? (kind of, but not well).

etc

Don’t quite understand the reason(s) for wanting to dual boot a Mac mini with Tiger, etc. without partitioning it - but perhaps someone might explain the possible net advantages of this approach? Please?

Already it has been proven that installing the OS 9 hack on a partition initialized and formatted from within anything other than Drive Setup 2.1 diminishes the overall performance of OS 9 on a Mac mini. (Compared QuickBench 2.0 results from within OS 9 on a partition created from within Tiger, and with OS 9 Drivers checked and enabled… proved lesser performance than the Drive Setup 2.1 dual-partition route.)

I’m prepared to produce those previous benchmark comparison results - OR run them again against whatever QuickBench 2.0 results you might obtain from this un-partitioned approach. Mind you, I’m not down voting your approach and I am interested in your final results (and again, why?).

Maybe optimum OS 9 performance isn’t your primary goal?😉

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AND @alexshendi - your questions (while loosely related) belong elsewhere and you should begin a new topic because the G4 iBook is a completely “different animal” than a G4 Mac mini.

I’ve two of the G4 iBooks and both of them are dual-partitioned in order to run Tiger from one partition and OS 9 from the other. I’d strongly suggest using the Forum’s Search feature, entering “G4 iBook” for possibly related information.

                                     

And if the search doesn’t yield any - or a great amount of results… you might want to temporarily switch your Forum theme to the old “Blu” theme and try your search again.Yes, there is often a difference, especially when searching. You can always switch back afterwards.

Yet please, do continue to monitor progress under this topic - but repost you query elsewhere OR create an entirely new topic. And here’s a somewhat related, 3 page topic for you:

https://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=5851.0

Best of luck and of course, welcome aboard.😉

the general rule with the mini OS9 is that you should avoid all the hassle, disadvantages and required learning steps to have a dual boot situation on the internal HD - and simply use an external disk for OSX.

then holding alt or using the startup disk panel works as they should, and you do not need to turn on brain before sunday morning breakfast.

Don’t quite understand the reason(s) for wanting to dual boot a Mac mini with Tiger, etc. without partitioning it - but perhaps someone might explain the possible net advantages of this approach? Please?

Already it has been proven that installing the OS 9 hack on a partition initialized and formatted from within anything other than Drive Setup 2.1 diminishes the overall performance of OS 9 on a Mac mini. (Compared QuickBench 2.0 results from within OS 9 on a partition created from within Tiger, and with OS 9 Drivers checked and enabled… proved lesser performance than the Drive Setup 2.1 dual-partition route.)

I’m prepared to produce those previous benchmark comparison results - OR run them again against whatever QuickBench 2.0 results you might obtain from this un-partitioned approach. Mind you, I’m not down voting your approach and I am interested in your final results (and again, why?).

Maybe optimum OS 9 performance isn’t your primary goal?😉

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AND @alexshendi - your questions (while loosely related) belong elsewhere and you should begin a new topic because the G4 iBook is a completely “different animal” than a G4 Mac mini.

I’ve two of the G4 iBooks and both of them are dual-partitioned in order to run Tiger from one partition and OS 9 from the other. I’d strongly suggest using the Forum’s Search feature, entering “G4 iBook” for possibly related information.

                                     

And if the search doesn’t yield any - or a great amount of results… you might want to temporarily switch your Forum theme to the old “Blu” theme and try your search again.Yes, there is often a difference, especially when searching. You can always switch back afterwards.

Yet please, do continue to monitor progress under this topic - but repost you query elsewhere OR create an entirely new topic. And here’s a somewhat related, 3 page topic for you:

https://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=5851.0

Best of luck and of course, welcome aboard.😉

Dear Maniac,

How about connecting it with an HDMI cable to an HDMI - DVI connector, then into a DVI to VGA converter… AND then, into an old VGA CRT monitor? [You know that I am joking?]

You’re going to drive yourself even crazy-er (“and you know it”) with all of these contingencies.

ALL of your time and effort(s) are extremely appreciated here - as we seem to be running a bit short of any actual REAL innovation(s) ‘round here lately. But please do not burn yourself out in the process.

"The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long…” -Dr. Eldon Tyrell

I took the opportunity to run more tests. Until now, I'd always connected to monitors with HDMI inputs, but today I wanted to try connecting this HDMI output to a monitor with DVI. It wasn't so easy.

First, I tried using a cable with HDMI on one end and DVI on the other. I didn't get an image. However, I did get an image by connecting a small DVI-to-HDMI adapter to the monitor's DVI connector and then using an HDMI-to-HDMI cable. I suppose it depends on the quality and wiring of the cables and adapters, so each case will have to be verified. Out of curiosity, I then tried using this DVI-to-HDMI cable on a monitor with both DVI and DisplayPort inputs, and it worked using the DVI connector. Perhaps because the monitor has DP connectors, which are more contemporary to HDMI.

Thanks for the clearification, aBc!

While it is evident that the M-Audio FW 410 AND the M-Audio FW Audiophile are similar and can share some of the same software, they ARE NOT the same. Many people worked for many years in order to actually provide the solution to “downgrade” the firmware on the M-Audio FW 410 and any further posts concerning the M-Audio FW Audiophile can only possibly confuse and dilute the original topic.

So does this topic need to be locked and thus prevent anyone else from adding to (and possibly confusing) the original topic — or should those wishing to consider matters concerning primarily the M-Audio FW Audiophile… simply use this as a reference point / AND THEN begin another topic related to the M-Audio FW Audiophile specifically? (Same goes for the similar, M-Audio Firewire 1814 units.)

This seems to be the most sensible solution, as this topic has already gone 4 pages - and with 31846 views. Topic: PSA: M-Audio Firewire 410 Firmware Downgrade Success! Now Working in Mac OS 9 is now locked and for reference only.

As the topic stands now, you might find yourself reading through and then wonder… hey, how and when did we shift over to the M-Audio FW Audiophile or the M-Audio Firewire 1814?

Now, start another topic / question elsewhere and you can provide a link back to this topic for reference as may be necessary.