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hammerfall pci is of course also the most expensive beside mykerinos. motu would be my bread and butter suggestion, i use them myself. yet i do not need to record classical guitar for broadcast with them.

It's funny you say that, because I'm a classical guitarist and we have a juiced up part 15 radio transmitter with a base loaded vertical antenna that reaches the outskirts of my town  ;D

But sure. If I need to mod them to be up to par with the RME option, then it seems like the RME option might be a better choice. Very cool, that I really can just use either option on my cheesegrater if I would like, or just grab a sawtooth/quicksilver and run them on OS9.
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hammerfall pci is of course also the most expensive beside mykerinos. motu mkII would be my bread and butter suggestion, i use them myself. yet i do not need to record classical guitar for broadcast with them.

macmini G4: 40 €
SSD for mini: 40 €
motu 828: 50 €
wuxga monitor: 50 €
== recording studio with 50+ tracks, 5-10 better plug-ins, 8 in 8 out, 1 midi in 1 midi out, various audiofile editors and CD burner.
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besides their very good converters (i.e. sound)  that is the benefit of the hammerfall productline: they have very good dirvers.

you might not need need linux or beoas, but that say something about their attitude.

motu firewire for example has recently dropped for 10.15 (which is still very good).

about your nubus idea; you might like them for some reason, but you should be aware of their specs when you want to use them for protools & co: there are no realtime plug-ins, no synths and samplers, there are no 2k monitors, there are no firewire cards, no SATA cards and no nothing for such an old system.

we are talking of 1990 in comparison to 2000, that´s 40 internet years difference. i would always prefer an 8-track casette recorder over a nubus mac.

I don't necessarily like them. If you mean, I may like their 'sound' (or their lacking of distinctive characteristics, perhaps)... oh nice.

The only thing I would need real-time plugins for are 'analyzers' and the like. It is tough to pinpoint standing waves in snares with the parametrics on my board.

More or less, I only NEED 2 tracks that sound very good so I can dump my bounces (otari mtr-90 16 tk to otari mtr-12 2 tk 1/2") to digital.

Would I love to take all 16 tracks from the board all at once? Yeah, for those rare occasions when someone actually wants that. Even if I figure out how to get 16 tracks running for cheap, that's quite a bit of space to store on drives from that era (I do have like 15+ SCSI drives though lol). So I don't really want to go NuBus. I just noted that it seems to be the cheapest options for my bare minimum requirements.

Plus, apparently people used to get the tape machine clock slaved to the racks and do all sorts of wacky tricks with that. I haven't encountered much info on how to do that though.

So you seem to think that both the MOTU or RME routes are very good. It's kinda funny... the Duet is actually a really old FW 400 interface itself now that I think of it. It probably wouldn't be much younger than most MOTU's I'd buy.
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What PCI GPU should I look for, to put in my Sawtooth G4 running 9.2.2 and 10.4.4, while I fix my Radeon 9000 Pro Macintosh edition 128 Mb AGP card?

Thanks for any recommendations.
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yeah, besides their very good converters (i.e. sound) that is the benefit of the hammerfall productline: they have very good drivers. you might not need need linux or beos supprt, but that says something about their attitude.

their 2005 pruducts still come with ASIO for MacOS9 and their 2000 products still run in 10.15.

motu firewire for example has recently dropped for 10.15 (which is still very good). man products expire after 8-10 years.

about your nubus idea; you might like them for some reason, but you should be aware of their specs when you want to use them for protools & co: there are no realtime plug-ins, no synths and samplers, there are no 2k monitors, there are no firewire cards, no SATA cards and no nothing for such an old system.

we are talking of 1990 in comparison to 2000 - that´s 40 internet years difference. i would always prefer an 8-track casette recorder over a nubus mac.
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you're gonna have a hard time finding *anything* nubus audio related at this point in time, and the other macs you listed are all gonna be usb/firewire solutions since no expansion slot.
your best bet IMO besides tracking down something really exotic would be a early MOTU firewire unit, and then have it modded by the folks at BLA:
https://www.blacklionaudio.com/product-category/modifications/motu/

MOTU 896 can be had for cheap, are very reliable IMO, and also you get an AES digital IO pair, so you can hook up a fancy external pre-amp if you want to at a later point. driver support is also excellent... I have a Hackintosh in my studio and im using a PCI-424 (yes, the PCI version) with 4x interfaces running 10.14 Mojave. works like a champ, still.

Well the nubus stuff really isn't that hard to come by actually. The worst part is finding the cabling IMO. There's a board from Hungary for 20 bucks on ebay with a broken IC leg. Since I already spend a lot of my day soldering motherboards it's not much extra time. Of course, then I need the quad box and cable.

Which puts me over $100 in the hole, but I don't really know how that stuff sounds, and what the prevalence of old electrolytics is like on the old protools stuff. So it is a risk. I would hate to spend a $200+ on a fully recapped NuBus system only to find out it sounds like shit.


Then looking at the Hammerfall suggestion, it seems as though the converters are fairly universally loved  no?... Does this card work with the Sawtooth G4's? I have pretty steady access to those. I come across one every couple of months that hasn't been parted at all, etc. Why would the MOTU be a better solution than this... are the converters only good if they're modded?
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Storage Technologies / Re: Beige G3 DT SSD troubles? (No fix)
« Last post by Lenix on Today at 07:03:25 PM »
Just updating this thread. I've given up after 3 days and $40 in adapters, I just decided a $20 IDE hard drive would be so much easier.
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I managed to install and I'm using mac os 9.2.2 on my 1.33ghz 17 "powerbook. Sound is working, The big question is that the screen is small, and without any acceleration. Is there any way to make radeon 9600 work on os 9?


I didn't need to write a lot of stuff in the open firmware, I just saved the Mac OS 9 to G4 image not supported on a USB stick, put the USB stick in the powerbook, turned it on and pressed option, the Mac OS 9 volume appeared in the list, it started, I I did the recovery, when finished, I moved all items from the extensions folder to any other folder, when restarting, it worked without problems. I read somewhere that the trackpad may have problems, but I didn't notice any problems with mine. The sound worked automatically, I could hear the sounds of the system when a warning appeared on the screen about something related to USB (emitted the sound of a rubber duck)
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Last sunday I went 35 Km away to pick a broken MDD Uni 1.25 with Radeon 9000 128 Mb and a Sonnet FW 400 card. Also a broken Samsung PSU. Ad no drives. And 1 pound of dust.


That model is 166 bus (at last!) and I have been fighting until today with 10 ATA drives (only 5 past SMART) to get clones of Instant DAW and clones of my PB 17" installs that include Panther and Leopard.

I borrowed my G4 Sawtooth 1.8 dual with a Digi 001 to a drummer to allow him record 16 tracks at once using his behringer 8 ins+ADAT.

you forgot to mention your OS9 machines.
PowerPC:


G4 MDD 867 Dual Mac OS 9/Panther Audiomedia III

G4 DA GHz Dual Mac OS 9/Panther Digi 001

G4 MDD 1.25 Mac OS9/Panther/Leopard Sonorus STUDI/O M-Box

PowerBook G4 GHz 17" Mac OS9/Panther/Tiger/Leopard shares the M-Box and the M-Audio FW duo


My most used cards are still the FW Solo+FW Audiophile + Focusrite LS56 that go with an

Intel

i5 2500K oc 3.4GHz nVidia 730 Win 10 64 (Planning on go Capitan soon) Protools 10+12

Mac Pro 2.1 2xQuad 3.0 8GB RAM nVidia 210, 9400, 7300 Lion + El Capitan (Planning on go Win 10 soon). Protools 10

All those machine are actives and running.


For the future decide to use the SONORUS Studi/o on a maxed Windows XP and build a system with W98/WMe around a Guillemot Maxi Sound ISIS that have an onboard 4 Mb sampler and a fine I/O box.

I have board+cpu+heatsink+RAM :

3 Intel 775 Quads to fulfill that but also

board+cpu+heatsink :

2 Pentium D, 2 Pentium IV a Pentium III and a Pentium 2

But only 2 good ATX 12cm fans boxes, 3 old PSU and no money to invest on drives till.


Next week I hope to send recycling all Pentium  D and below If I get a stable W98 Setup for the ISIS.



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