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Found a mac mini which was being used as a door stop at a computer shop. The thing booted right up, and i thought about using for software synth wonderment.
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Sonnet Crescendo G3 Card.
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Storage Technologies / Re: Can a Modern External Drive Boot in OS 9.2.2?
« Last post by TheDailyBuzzherd on March 25, 2017, 04:15:11 PM »
(the bigger problem in my opinion is that OSX wont install via firewire. keeping something IDE for OS9 is not an issue. someone here uses a DOM flash drive connected at the zip slot to boot his OS from. that would be the third option.)

Ooops, missed your other two replies! Dang eyes.

So, I'm installing fine using the CDs via Puma or Tiger's Disk Utility.
The System Folders for 9 and Tiger won't bless, just as the specs
warned. So you're saying it's as simple as DRAGGING the old folder
from the "Death Star"? I didn't think it could be done that way, one
needs another utility, "Carbon Copy Cloner". Wrong?

I've read issues on that ...

Nah, never had noise issues with my Desk Star. Lucky, I suppose.

BTW, yes, I installed both Tiger and Leopard on the 3T using FW400,
and they boot, because that drive DOES support down to Tiger. I've
had intermittent issues with one partition on the 3T, hence my service
call to MicroNet, but I kinda think it's an anomaly.

 :)
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Storage Technologies / Re: Can a Modern External Drive Boot in OS 9.2.2?
« Last post by TheDailyBuzzherd on March 25, 2017, 04:08:15 PM »
IIO, gar-un-teed I don't have it right! With all these conflicting technologies,
I dunno how you guys keep things straight, I really don't.

Specs on Fantom Quad 1T:

Type: External Hard Drive
Power Supply: 110/220 V (Universal Power Supply)
Host Interface: eSATA / FireWire 800 (2) / FireWire 400 / USB 3.0
Available Capacity: 1TB, 2TB, 3TB, 4TB
OS Support: Apple Mac OS X 10.5 or later;
Microsoft Windows Vista, 7, 8;
Windows Server 2003, 2008

Notice the system requirements in bold.  -afro-

Daz muh problem! I bought it knowing this, but I'd looked and couldn't
find anything that said a lower OS was still supported. Time marches on.
It appears to be a chip-empowered security update to accommodate
newer systems.

The install disks are clean, I barely use 'em. I know, CDs have a shelf life,
but I've never had problems on the machine for which they were designed.

This is just all part of the travails we have now face on the endless treadmill
of built-in-obsolescence the tech industry has us all in. The thing that really
bothers me with this, are the cash-strapped folks who now NEED this stuff
but have to choose between it and, say, insurance to make things work.
Not a political thread, but I threw it out there ...

ANYHOO, thanks for the guidance on this.
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Storage Technologies / Re: Mac files on a new NAS
« Last post by IIO on March 25, 2017, 12:35:50 PM »
like nano says, there can situations appear where the filesystem is not the problem but the combination with a certain transfer protocol will break stuff.

why dont you take the chance  and sort your stuff. then you could create collections of bigger toast files or similar and use this to store the files in a linux nas.
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Storage Technologies / Re: Can a Modern External Drive Boot in OS 9.2.2?
« Last post by IIO on March 25, 2017, 12:32:07 PM »
p.s. no sure if i got you right with the "external" thing. OS9 will boot fine from SATA disks when you connect them via firewire. only most PCI cards wont let you boot.
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Storage Technologies / Re: Can a Modern External Drive Boot in OS 9.2.2?
« Last post by IIO on March 25, 2017, 12:26:47 PM »
I can't understand
this noise issue when air conditioners and other things are far
worse.

in a dual porcessor MDD maybe - in a 933 those old deskstar disks are much louder than all fans at full power will be. (maybe you have a better one already?)

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But, I realize I always was playing with fire.

yes and no - there is nothing what could stop you to use 2 IDE disks to boot into OS9 and add 2 additional SATA disks for data. thats what i do in all my macs.

(the bigger problem in my opinion is that OSX wont install via firewire. keeping something IDE for OS9 is not an issue. someone here uses a DOM flash drive connected at the zip slot to boot his OS from. that would be the third option.)
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Thanks!  Though that's annoying, how do I make a bootable backup?
Do I have to find a SCSI disk and adapter?  Or can I clone the internal disk
using the card slot or USB?

I'd be interested in pointers to "open firmware trickery", though it sounds
like a time sink, and a good way to make a disk unreadable...

Thanks again,
rob
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You can only boot from the internal PATA slot or SCSI. You might be able to boot using some Open Firmware trickery, just like you can boot newer PowerPC Macs via USB using Open Firmware, but not "out of the Box" so to say.
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Hi, I have a Lombard 400Mhz G3 running OS 9.2.2, and am trying
to boot from a CF card in the PCMCIA slot.  There is now a 32 GB
SanDisk UDMA7 card in the slot, via an adapter, and I could format it,
and it shows up on the desktop.  I copied over the system folder and
the finder, but I can't boot from it, the relevant entry is greyed out in
the Startup Disk control panel.  I did a few incantations to "bless" the
system folder, and zapped the pram, no change.

Do I need to boot from a CD to load a system on the CF card?
Is there something I'm missing?  Thanks for any suggestions!

rob
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