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General Hardware Discussions / Re: Apple pro keyboard mdd os9,2
« Last post by Astroman on September 12, 2018, 07:20:51 AM »
you're absolutely correct in technical terms that a 'driver' is needed - Gary just wants to point out that this (kind of) driver is and always has been a part of the regular system software. ;)
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Try a drag and drop of the offending icon with Shrinkwrap - it has less trouble with identifying content (imho)
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Hello! Please help!

After download one of CD with PT 5 Plugins, I can not open some archives. Mac OS - recognizet it, and show it icons with "PC" logo. I`m - newby in OS9 file types. Stuffit Expander - can not decompress it. How I can install this files? Picture - in OS9 format - is attached! Thank You!
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General Hardware Discussions / Re: Apple pro keyboard mdd os9,2
« Last post by Andre Solomko on September 12, 2018, 12:54:23 AM »
Yes Gary lets chalk this up to!  "HID Library is required to use the volume controls and the eject key on the new iMac and PowerMac G4 keyboards. (Apple Extended USB Keyboard) . Thars a keyboard what i have. its all because of volume eject buttons which i definitely have. Anything what goes beyond a generic. Kkeyboard driver integrated in OF even NEEDS a driver! Somebody have to tell to OS wat that button  means. In this case its a HIDlibrary What to mice its a generic usb and i never used a third part software for it.
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General Hardware Discussions / Re: Apple pro keyboard mdd os9,2
« Last post by GaryN on September 11, 2018, 07:04:09 PM »
"It Just Works" IS a marketing slogan. BUT it's also a philosophy of integrating stuff in software so that stuff, well, just works. No zillions of extra driversand such required. It's something you can do when you control BOTH the hardware and the software as Apple does.

Now…I forgot all about "HID library" because I have never used, needed or had it active. So, I take officially back what I said about there being no such thing in Apple-Land.
Here's the official synopsis:
"HDLib is used by Input Sprocket. It must be present to use many USB gaming devices and Microsoft Intelli Mouse."
AND
"HID Library is required to use the volume controls and the eject key on the new iMac and PowerMac G4 keyboards. (Apple Extended USB Keyboard)"

…neither of which you have. I DO notice however, a suspicious black looks-like-a-mouse-cord plugged into your kbd in the pic you posted.
Might that be a 3rd-party mouse? Just a wild guess, but anyway, you say the error is gone now that the HID is turned back on so we'll have to chalk this up to on of those mysterious things that happen when you run 20-year-old software…
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General Hardware Discussions / Re: Apple pro keyboard mdd os9,2
« Last post by Andre Solomko on September 11, 2018, 05:02:27 PM »
 Here you go. "Just works"doesn't sound very scientific. More like a marketing slogan. Never used a Mac plus but did enough of macintoshing and Hackintoshing nowdays to know that anything needs drivers and nothing "just works" in a computer world.. Anyway if you take a look at your system folder you will see exactly the same extension. This one what I am posting is taken from Mac OS9,2 universal iso what is uploaded on this site. Also why would I use Microsoft office an OS9 Mac? I have a Hackintosh with Sierra what I am using to post this. I am running PT and Logic and all usual suspects on my MDD
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Application Development & Programming in the Classic Mac OS / Re: Creator code '????'
« Last post by IIO on September 11, 2018, 04:36:52 PM »
norton compains about that error all the time, not only with your custom apps. and it is not an important issue which would need to be fixed.

a creator code of ???? is okay, it wont cause any problems. it is just a way of saying "i dont have a creator code". it is common to also type this in manually, for example using a hex editor.

works likewise with the type code ... of course applications, desktop accessories or fonts must have a proper type code for a #reason :) ... but for most types of documents it is technically okay.
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General Hardware Discussions / Re: Apple pro keyboard mdd os9,2
« Last post by IIO on September 11, 2018, 04:23:02 PM »
Apple extension actually. But yes and thanks for a help for everyone. What is really strange for me why in the hell you need a HID extension to make this thing running.As I mentioned it works without it anyway. 20 yeARS OLD BUG...question can be left for a doomsday

it functions the same way as in OSX i think: HID is built into the OS, but when you have third party HID kext installed, such as from logitech, it can happen that it pushes in the foreground and claims a newly connected device (despite a different manufacturer); removing it will fix the issue.
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General Hardware Discussions / Re: Apple pro keyboard mdd os9,2
« Last post by GaryN on September 11, 2018, 03:14:35 PM »
Pardon my rush on typing I meant "numeric pad". OK PROBLEM IS SOLVED. It was a HID extension by itself.
It was turned off. I haven't used a machine for a while and don't remember how it disappeared from my Pro Tools extension set.
Extension by itself is not needed but it gives this annoying message. what to num pads some buttons stopped working altogether messing things out even more, I have to figure out how to fix it. Would be a shame to give up such a lovely keyboard
I dunno Andre…the more we discuss this, the more confused i get.
I have never, repeat never in all my years on Macs, from my first Mac Plus forward, seen an Apple HID extension…period.

HID is a "thing" common to Windows PCs, and if it ever "crosses over" into Mac-land, you can probably thank Microsoft for stuffing it into your System folder along with the hundred-odd other MS Word, Office, Excel etc etc little garbage piles needed to run their products that end up just laying around in the Extensions folder even though you never use and don't need them.

However, I repeat: I've never, ever seen an HID extension or file of ANY kind in a Mac System…period.

The only "keyboard drivers" needed to run an Apple keyboard with an Apple Mac computer are built in. That's part of the Mac philosophy "It Just Works".
So, I'll stick with my conclusion that it's a 3rd party extension messing up your startup that doesn't belong. There may also be other things in the System folders interacting with it as well.

NOTE: I have been known to be wrong, not often, but nobody's perfect. If this is a real Apple extension, I'd love to see it. Upload a copy and we'll see what ResEdit can tell us. I'd also love to see a screenshot of the error message too.
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General Hardware Discussions / Apple Pro Keyboard
« Last post by Fury deBongo on September 11, 2018, 01:18:56 PM »
Congrats! Glad that you’ve figured it out. I would definitely ZAP / Rebuild… upon restart
to see if that would help fully recognize your keyboard and “num pad”
...if it has not done so already after reboot.

Also, quite relieved here… because the image below is all that I could find concerning
“bum pad”. Thought you might have possibly meant “drum pad”…
an altogether different type of “enhancement”. ;)
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