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Overclock Mini?
« Reply #380 on: April 03, 2018, 11:17:04 AM »

1.25GHz Mini yet to arrive and already considering
overclocking to 1.5 and a larger than 80mb HD. :o

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/fastest-flash-and-using-a-pencil-to-overclock.1973903/
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Re: Overclock Mini?
« Reply #381 on: April 03, 2018, 11:41:14 AM »

1.25GHz Mini yet to arrive and already considering
overclocking to 1.5 and a larger than 80mb HD. :o

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/fastest-flash-and-using-a-pencil-to-overclock.1973903/

Good stuff. 80MB is quite small though.
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Re: Booting Mac Os 9 on Mac Mini.
« Reply #382 on: April 03, 2018, 11:42:25 AM »


But If you insist... the background you are searching for, is in the System file of a booting Apple CD (or image)  ;)

Probably won't use the CD background, but I cannot find it in the System file of the 9.2.1 CD with ResEdit, what resource is it in and what ID?
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Re: Overclock Mini?
« Reply #383 on: April 03, 2018, 11:47:56 AM »

1.25GHz Mini yet to arrive and already considering
overclocking to 1.5 and a larger than 80mb HD. :o

i´ve got a 1,25 1,33 and 1,42 here, the 1.5 silent upgrade is hard to find (and i am not sure if 5.5% are worth the hassle.)

the 1.5 is about as rare as the mini server and sellers asking for fantasy prices.
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Re: Overclock Mini?
« Reply #384 on: April 03, 2018, 11:51:12 AM »

1.25GHz Mini yet to arrive and already considering
overclocking to 1.5 and a larger than 80mb HD. :o

i´ve got a 1,25 1,33 and 1,42 here, the 1.5 silent upgrade is hard to find (and i am not sure if 5.5% are worth the hassle.)

the 1.5 is aboputt as rare as the mini server and sellers asking for fantasy prices.

I think the silent upgrade also has a SuperDrive (burn DVDs, unlike the others with Combo) and think it also has Airport & Bluetooth default (but that won't work in os 9 right now)
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Mac Os 9 boot on unsupported Hardware, "The state Of the art".
« Reply #385 on: April 04, 2018, 05:50:20 AM »

MacTron I have made a few changes to the ISO/toast CD for the Mac mini. The old link will no longer work so replace it with:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xbVMhxEyMnHN78ZLswc5GhZz6q3miAhI/view?usp=sharing
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Re: Booting Mac Os 9 on Mac Mini.
« Reply #386 on: April 04, 2018, 05:52:14 AM »

New ISO CD (just changed a few things in CD Extras, and the Read Me): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xbVMhxEyMnHN78ZLswc5GhZz6q3miAhI/view?usp=sharing


Burning methods are still the same from my post about the previous ISO on page 5.
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Re: Booting Mac Os 9 on Mac Mini.
« Reply #387 on: April 04, 2018, 06:40:08 AM »

i see people in forums from back then claiming that they have run the 1,25 overclocked to 1,75 with "no poblems".

whatever that means for application stability and temperature ... under MacOS9(!) ... but 40% more cycles is tasty.
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Re: Booting Mac Os 9 on Mac Mini.
« Reply #388 on: April 04, 2018, 01:43:19 PM »

i see people in forums from back then claiming that they have run the 1,25 overclocked to 1,75 with "no poblems".

whatever that means for application stability and temperature ... under MacOS9(!) ... but 40% more cycles is tasty.

The [email protected] car run at 1.66 Mhz without a glitch. Some of them can achieve the 1.826 Mhz. I don't know if those are a faster factory rated chips, or just best quality chips (as NewerTech and Sonnet have claimed)
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Re: Mac Os 9 boot on unsupported Hardware, "The state Of the art".
« Reply #389 on: April 04, 2018, 01:45:16 PM »

MacTron I have made a few changes to the ISO/toast CD for the Mac mini. The old link will no longer work so replace it with:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xbVMhxEyMnHN78ZLswc5GhZz6q3miAhI/view?usp=sharing
Updated!
Thanks
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Re: Booting Mac Os 9 on Mac Mini.
« Reply #390 on: April 04, 2018, 01:47:35 PM »

Probably won't use the CD background, but I cannot find it in the System file of the 9.2.1 CD with ResEdit, what resource is it in and what ID?
I's on ppat resource ID 16.

You can also add a startup screen like this:

... which I have discarded a it's moment ...  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Booting Mac Os 9 on Mac Mini.
« Reply #391 on: April 04, 2018, 02:19:09 PM »

Thanks for the resource id for the desktop tile. I created a few startup screen I could have used for the Mac mini but decided that people probably like default. I converted your JPG to a PICT resource in PS7 and looks quite nice when you boot up.
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Re: Booting Mac Os 9 on Mac Mini.
« Reply #392 on: April 04, 2018, 02:23:59 PM »

You can also add a startup screen like this:

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Re: Mac Os 9 boot on unsupported Hardware, "The state Of the art".
« Reply #393 on: April 04, 2018, 02:25:37 PM »

did any of you already try to add OSX again to a fresh OS9 mini?
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Re: Mac Os 9 boot on unsupported Hardware, "The state Of the art".
« Reply #394 on: April 04, 2018, 02:45:43 PM »

did any of you already try to add OSX again to a fresh OS9 mini?

Yes and it only ever gets to a Prohibitory Symbol. Doing a Verbose Boot of X hangs at a specific line. I think its the disk drivers because when I erase it with terminal, I can boot X but not 9!! (Even with OS9Drivers option). Booting 9 after an X install gives a flashing ? On a floppy, but X boots fine, but booting X after 9 install will only boot 9). Not quite sure why but that seems to be the case when I tried anyway. I dual boot Tiger and Z1-9.2.2 on my tiBook. For my Mac mini, I boot 9 from internal drive, and Tiger from a FW disk, and that works great.
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Re: Mac Os 9 boot on unsupported Hardware, "The state Of the art".
« Reply #395 on: April 04, 2018, 04:20:28 PM »

uh. i am tired. i had to remove both my comments because you already answered it. :D
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Re: Booting Mac Os 9 on Mac Mini.
« Reply #396 on: April 05, 2018, 08:36:04 PM »

Mactron, I remember a youtube guy saying your "Well Tempered" Mac OS logo you made for my ARS install had a typo, just though I would mention that for future reference, I think he meant a spelling error ?
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Re: Booting Mac Os 9 on Mac Mini.
« Reply #397 on: April 06, 2018, 03:59:51 AM »

I would prefer that changes be made to the part of the OS that has actually been modified: the NewWorld ROM. Otherwise we're changing parts of the System file that were language-localised. How about a subtle, non-textual tweak to the Happy Mac icon? I have attached a BinHexed resource file containing the 'cicn' resource from the ROM.

Funky desktop patterns are, of course, super cool!
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Re: Booting Mac Os 9 on Mac Mini.
« Reply #398 on: April 06, 2018, 05:48:24 AM »

cant the startup screen be added by placing a picture file in the system? like in OSX?
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Re: Booting Mac Os 9 on Mac Mini.
« Reply #399 on: April 06, 2018, 06:05:55 AM »

@IIO doesn't that get rid the extensions loading, like you don't see them loading but they are.
I've just been doing things like this:




and this keeps all the progress things viewable.
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