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[supernova777]

anyone have one of these for sale.. they were on ebay for awhile but the supply seems to have dried up

[Syntho]

I have only one copy. I don't have an actual use for it, but I think I need to hang onto it just in case. It's sitting in my broken down MDD.

[supernova777]

i ended up buying a Grapper+ SCSI/Serial card from OrangeMicro for 12$ on ebay - its on its way to diehards place now lol



hope it works as well as a keyspan or a megawolf

with this card ill be able to connect both a sampler via SCSI db-25 + my motu or opcode midi interfaces
kinda sucks that on previous macs these scsi + serial ports came built in!!!! 
its wierd because it says it requires system 7.5 but shows a pic of a g3 b+W on the box
which cant run anything lower then 8.5.1 or 8.6

[Enabler]

Once these drivers are installed do the built-in MIDI drivers in Logic see the serial port?
Meaning no need for OMS or FreeMIDI or MIDI Manager?

Can anyone confirm?

[Syntho]

Once these drivers are installed do the built-in MIDI drivers in Logic see the serial port?
Meaning no need for OMS or FreeMIDI or MIDI Manager?

Can anyone confirm?

IIRC, you can use either. I don't have a G4 to test at the moment, mine went kaput.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KeySpan-Sx-Pro-SXPRO-A2-4-Port-Serial-PCI-Card-Mac-G4-PCI-PowerMac-Power-Mac-/161931328251?hash=item25b3dbfafb:g:NUEAAOSw5IJWgXgB

I'm glad I bought mine when I did 

[Enabler]

Just wanted to chime back in on these keyspan SX Pro cards and Logic.
I finally got around and purchased one on Ebay to test with Logic Platninum.

The Bad news is that Logic's built in MIDI drivers do NOT work with these cards
I tested both Logic 3.7.2 & 4.8.1 using an Opcode Studio 4 Midi interface and a generic 1x1
Serial Interface and in both test Logic would not see the interfaces and reported errors.

There may be a work around using Logic in OMS mode but I like to avoid that all together

If anyone has any suggestions let me know
BTW Logic works perfectly with the Stealth Serial Port

[teroyk]

Have anybody make Keyspan to work with OMS without MOTU hardware? I tested it with Midiman MacMan (its simple serial to Midi I/O) and it worked with Freemidi, but no with OMS Setup. Freemidi 1.38 has OMS emulation, but it's not help me because my another PCI-sound card has only OMS drivers and I think that I cannot use OMS-drivers with Freemidi even if put OMS emulation on..or is there someway use both together and route between them?

Some infromations I find about Freemidi version from Motus website from 2000:
https://web.archive.org/web/20000304004840/http://www1.motu.com/english/download/autodown/action.lasso?-database=dldb&-layout=main&-response=searchresults.html&-op=eq&product=FreeMIDI&&-maxRecords=all&-sortfield=version&-sortorder=descending&-search

Has anybody that fm14_cw106.sit.hqx-file? Page says "We recommend downloading these files if you have a serial adapter like the Megawolf, Keyspan, Stealth or Griffin Technology card."

[Metrophage]

Here is ClockWorks 1.0.7, which should be the same idea, and should still work with FreeMIDI 1.4.x. I have never used the MOTU MIDI drivers, but I should try them sometime.

[macStuff]

I'll probably grab a Keyspan, I can't find a G4port or Stealth. I see the extensions were posted so I hope that's all I need to get it working.

I have an older MOTU Midi Express XT that would be nice to get up and running. As long as it's compatible with FreeMidi I'm good.

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=3623.0
http://alexhixon.com/projects/jamport/
http://www.oldschooldaw.com/forums/index.php?topic=3403.0

[Syn-Fi]

OS9 drivers

The attached driver, right at the top of this thread did not work for me. However, i found v2.0 and that worked and it has an installer as opposed to drag/drop to system.

The driver at the top stated i had a newer card

No drivers/extensions req'd for osx.

[Syn-Fi]

hi,
i have the Sxpro card but my modem emulation tick box, in the control panel for the sxpro is always hashed out. 

Also with my Studio 5LX it only works with a relative short din cable.    It is not even detected by a cable of 3M.

[GaryN]

The tick box grayed out usually means either you have Appletalk on, or you have a modem card installed and active by being selected in the TCP/IP panel or similar.

As for the cable, your 3M cable is probably NOT a Mac "crossover" wiring but rather a "straight-thru". Crossover cables are wired with the Tx and Rx lines "crossed over" to allow two-way communication. The problem with all of these cables is for reasons known ONLY to the manufacturers, NONE of them has ever though it necessary to mark the damn things in any way to indicate which type they are. Go figure.

Syntho spelled it out HERE: http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,2656.msg15948.html#msg15948

[w3sl33]

I use a key span sx pro in an MDD. previously in a quicksilver. HANDS DOWN the best timing of any serial card or port. Ive tried stealth and griffin and they don't compare. I use smpte from mpc as well as mtc a lot. Perfect sync every time. I use OMS but free midi works well especially in emulation. took a while to set this up. I have a studio 5LX and 3 mtp av. 2 usb and 1 serial only. I network the usb mtp with the serial for more ports. 5LX is tight but so is the mtp av. The key span pro is the key to great timing and the least jitter. I even get it to work now when I dual boot in OS X with the beta plug in that is available online from stealth. BEST timing is key span pro with either mtp av or studio 5LX. It was so excellent I sacrificed a farm card slot.

[Architecture]

I use a key span sx pro in an MDD. previously in a quicksilver. HANDS DOWN the best timing of any serial card or port. Ive tried stealth and griffin and they don't compare. I use smpte from mpc as well as mtc a lot. Perfect sync every time. I use OMS but free midi works well especially in emulation. took a while to set this up. I have a studio 5LX and 3 mtp av. 2 usb and 1 serial only. I network the usb mtp with the serial for more ports. 5LX is tight but so is the mtp av. The key span pro is the key to great timing and the least jitter. I even get it to work now when I dual boot in OS X with the beta plug in that is available online from stealth. BEST timing is key span pro with either mtp av or studio 5LX. It was so excellent I sacrificed a farm card slot.

What settings do you use for your SXPRO card? I have one and mine is stuck running at 9600 baud when OMS is engaged.

[teroyk]

I use OMS but free midi works well especially in emulation. took a while to set this up.

I only get keyspan work with Free Midi, how you setup it work with OMS?

[GaryN]

I only get keyspan work with Free Midi, how you setup it work with OMS?

The same way you get it to run in FreeMIDI.
You run the "OMS Setup" app and the card is detected.

[teroyk]

I only get keyspan work with Free Midi, how you setup it work with OMS?

The same way you get it to run in FreeMIDI.
You run the "OMS Setup" app and the card is detected.

I tried half a day some years ago and only success with FreeMidi..maybe I have to try again...
Damm, I just week ago ordered very expensive Megawolf card for replace that Keyspan.

[coachla]

Though it is necessary to open the Keyspan Manager control panel and set the first port to "emulate printer port" and the second port to "emulate modem port." Did you do that? OMS will see them.  Also in OMS setup you have to check modem and printer for the installer to look there.


I know in Freemidi all 4 ports appear in Freemidi Setup, but only the first and second are functional.

[makott]

Problems with mini din 8 serial ports and MIDI interfaces
I'm bringing up this old discussion to ask for help.


Hi guys, I need help, information, and spiritual comfort :-)

I'm trying to set up a MIDI to DMX setup with old Macintosh computers and MIDI interfaces.

I have an 8100 Maxpower G3 System 9.1 that works perfectly, and I have a PowerBook G3 Wallstreet 300 System 9.2 that also works. OK.

I have an MIDI Opcode Studio 4 interface and a MIDI Motu MTP AV interface, fine. I've tried a thousand ways but it doesn't work! The interfaces are not recognized.

8100 >Studio4 with OMS 2.3.8/2.3.5 nothing.

8100> MOTU with Freemidi 1.44 nothing.

Same thing with Powerbook G3.

With a cable, different from the one used to connect the interfaces, which has a mini din plug on one end and eight exposed wires on the other, I made a loopback by connecting the wire from pin 3 and the wire from pin 5, as described in many tutorials. Okay.

Computer serial port test with "loopback cable" and TechTool Pro 3 “passed.”
However, if I try to run the test with the normal cable connected to the computer and the interface, the test fails. The cable is not an original serial cable, but it is well known and has been tested with a multimeter by a technician who assured me of pin-to-pin continuity.

Where could the problem be? Non-original Apple mini din 8 serial cables? (But sold as compatible pinout pin to pin)

Problems with "stack AppleTalk" occuped serial port comunication?

MOTU/Studio 4 settings?

All the serial ports on the interfaces are dead?

Help me!

Thanks for your attention.

EDIT: I read this post https://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=7542.msg58406#msg58406
 while searching the forum. Could it be that the cables need to be crossed ? I'm confused now!