Mac OS 9 Lives
Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI => Digital Audio Workstations & MIDI Applications => Topic started by: smilesdavis on January 07, 2023, 04:24:25 PM
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ive seen in a google search there is a 2.53 TDM "planted" somewhere
Peak? TDM 2.53 [k'd].hqx
Peak TDM 2.58 (link down)
https://web.archive.org/web/20050310015224/http://www.bias-inc.com/pub/updates/tdm_g4_258.sea.hqx (https://web.archive.org/web/20050310015224/http://www.bias-inc.com/pub/updates/tdm_g4_258.sea.hqx)
Peak TDM 2.6
http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/BIAS_PeakTDM/ (http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/BIAS_PeakTDM/)
Peak TDM 2.6.2
https://www.mixonline.com/recording/waves-gold-bundle-32-372586 (https://www.mixonline.com/recording/waves-gold-bundle-32-372586)
the Waves Gold Bundle 3.2 TDM and its stability improvements together with Peak TDM 2.6.2 are the keeper versions.
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I know this is a necro post bump, I too am searching for Peak 2.6 TDM. It has more modern DAE support and would be more useful in a Pro Tools MIX setup.
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Unicorn hunt!
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Unicorn hunt!
Of course.
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Very cool, ssp3! :D
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the man!
where?
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where?
On CDRs or tape. Boxed and stored away.
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thanks for letting us know!
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where?
On CDRs or tape. Boxed and stored away.
Is it alright if we impose and ask if, sometime, you could kindly search for it, copy it and upload it here? :)
If not, that's ok, too, we don't want to burden others with these requests. I myself have some things I still "need" to share... like Realmz uploads that take forever to sort out even if I put my time on it.
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Sure, sure.. But, given that there are more than 100 CDRs and tapes that I have to go thru plus I personally don't need this stuff, it won't happen anytime soon.
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how bout we make a weekend where we hang out with tibooks and beer and image those cdrs for archive.org?
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Is it alright if we impose and ask if, sometime, you could kindly search for it, copy it and upload it here?
as annoying as it is for some of you, but if it is allowed i would like to point you to our wonderful hotline server to download peak from there.
that is basically why we run it.
we can add whatever anyone asks for, but it does not make too much sense to add it one by one
If not, that's ok, too, we don't want to burden others with these requests.
that is why i upload a good handful of additional files, that we do not have to discuss every single request of a new member and then end up with files cluttered around in various places in the forum.
however, we do not yet have an official request procedure. one way i used in the past is to let guests upload empty upload folders with the name of what they want into the hotline site.
using the web forum for discussing filesharing is not ideal - but using the hotline BBS to communicate there is also not ideal. so to have this directly in the file section probably can make the most sense for us.
i am going to add an "upload/download" helpfile right into the filesection soon, maybe i should integrate that "request" thing too already.
how bout we make a weekend where we hang out with tibooks and beer and image those cdrs for archive.org?
as a real collector you definetly want an original CD, dont you? :)
for the operation of the app you do not need it, 2.6 is "trial & patch"
your SDII plug-ins are also waiting for you in the file section since a month.
let us know if you need help with downloading - only if you guys ask we can learn what newbies might need to know.
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however, we do not yet have an official request procedure. one way i used in the past is to let guests upload empty upload folders with the name of what they want into the hotline site.
using the web forum for discussing filesharing is not ideal - but using the hotline BBS to communicate there is also not ideal. so to have this directly in the file section probably can make the most sense for us.
i am going to add an "upload/download" helpfile right into the filesection soon, maybe i should integrate that "request" thing too already.
Yes, that would be awesome. And indeed, this is exactly what Hotline is awesome at solving.
Hotline is mirrored to Gopher, so we don't need to access Hotline in order to download stuff.
Our little place in gophersphere: gopher://gopher.macos9lives.com (http://gopher://gopher.macos9lives.com)
And through a web proxy if you don't believe in Gopger or Hotline (muuuuch slower for downloads, though: http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw?a=gopher%3A%2F%2Fgopher.macos9lives.com (http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw?a=gopher%3A%2F%2Fgopher.macos9lives.com)
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.. i would like to point you to our wonderful hotline server to download peak from there.
What's up there is k'ed demo of 2.6.0. Whether it is as functional as non-demo remains to be seen.
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And, as I've said before, 20+ years ago I kept using 2.5.8 despite 2.6.2 being available. I wasn't the only one, by the way..
your personal preferences are not of any interest here.
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OK.
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And, as I've said before, 20+ years ago I kept using 2.5.8 despite 2.6.2 being available. I wasn't the only one, by the way..
your personal preferences are not of any interest here.
I think it is potentially-valuable advice. Regardless, let's not address each other like that around here, if we can avoid it.
I agree though that if 2.6.2 isn't available in the downloads section, and instead only a "cracked demo" of 2.6.0 is, then we would want to nonetheless locate 2.6.2 even if only for comparison purposes or any other reason, even if it turns out to be indeed worse.
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your SDII plug-ins are also waiting for you in the file section since a month.
let us know if you need help with downloading - only if you guys ask we can learn what newbies might need to know.
Whats a file section? And where is it
I sure do thanks for pointing it out
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And, as I've said before, 20+ years ago I kept using 2.5.8 despite 2.6.2 being available. I wasn't the only one, by the way..
your personal preferences are not of any interest here.
I think it is potentially-valuable advice. Regardless, let's not address each other like that around here, if we can avoid it.
I agree though that if 2.6.2 isn't available in the downloads section, and instead only a "cracked demo" of 2.6.0 is, then we would want to nonetheless locate 2.6.2 even if only for comparison purposes or any other reason, even if it turns out to be indeed worse.
It's ok. If my experience is not welcome here, thats fine with me.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/warning-peak-may-erase-files-from-your-drive-bias-explains-how-to-prevent-this/
(http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6655.0;attach=14236)
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ssp3, I think IIO means that we do appreciate your opinion and experience, but in terms of preservation we do need to be able to archive every version of every piece of relevant software we can find, despite the bugs they might have. And in those terms your personal preferences are not of any interest, as IIO mentioned. Because everything needs to be preserved.
And of course, no one can force you to do anything. We are merely trying to encourage you to share ;)
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your SDII plug-ins are also waiting for you in the file section since a month.
let us know if you need help with downloading - only if you guys ask we can learn what newbies might need to know.
Whats a file section? And where is it
I sure do thanks for pointing it out
anyone can point me towards a certain "file section" please?
im sure no harm was intended just "to-the-point" sense of order versus trying to maintain a sense of politeness got a bit of a rub
both of you are the heart and soul of what makes this place the coolest in the world
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anyone can point me towards a certain "file section" please?
See this thread: http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=7181.0
I will update the site to reflect the changes to make it more clear.
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ssp3, I think IIO means that we do appreciate your opinion and experience, but in terms of preservation we do need to be able to archive every version of every piece of relevant software we can find, despite the bugs they might have. And in those terms your personal preferences are not of any interest, as IIO mentioned. Because everything needs to be preserved.
And of course, no one can force you to do anything. We are merely trying to encourage you to share ;)
"Opinion" and "personal preferences" have the same meaning in my book.
So, opinions are not welcome, but uploads are? Note taken.
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Uploaded on Hotline server (2.62 TDM).
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
i couldnt see it on gopher http which dir is it in
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your SDII plug-ins are also waiting for you in the file section since a month.
all waves included? the paris?
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"Opinion" and "personal preferences" have the same meaning in my book.
So, opinions are not welcome, but uploads are? Note taken.
Of course opinions are welcome, but your opinions should not be a show stopper from sharing the actual software. I can dislike working with Cubase, but still share the install files if anyone has another opinion than mine, instead of trying to force everyone to share my opinion.
And that’s my opinion :)
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all waves included? the paris?
nah, waves will be filed under "waves", despite that it is technically not its own plug-in interface.
but i also suspect that i haven´t found all of my SDII by now.
if you find info about missing products just let us know - i have no overview about this stuff because i am about 3 years too young for that. (DFX audiosuite was my first plug-in)
i couldnt see it on gopher http which dir is it in
if somebody adds something new it is in the "upload" folder.
in the case of "Peak â„¢ 2.62.sit" (2.5 kb) is has been sorted under "trash" because it is broken. *hint* :)
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And that’s my opinion :)
i only used the word "opinion" as an euphemism, maybe that caused the confusion.
what i meant is that he says is wrong to show people where to download 2.6 when they ask for 2.6, because he doubts that the crack would work. because we are all idiots and only he knows better, as usual. that pattern repeats over and over again and recently even random visitors ask me via PN what´s wrong with us.
at the same time it can of course be a useful information that there is a problem with a certain version or a program. this would be even better information that just an opinion...
while opinions can never be right or wrong it is interesting that everybody has the same opinion on peak v. 4.x(!) ...
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all waves included? the paris?
nah, waves will be filed under "waves", despite that it is technically not its own plug-in interface.
but i also suspect that i haven´t found all of my SDII by now.
if you find info about missing products just let us know - i have no overview about this stuff because i am about 3 years too young for that. (DFX audiosuite was my first plug-in)
i couldnt see it on gopher http which dir is it in
if somebody adds something new it is in the "upload" folder.
in the case of "Peak â„¢ 2.62.sit" (2.5 kb) is has been sorted under "trash" because it is broken. *hint* :)
Well that explains why i didnt see it
Also please â„¢ avoid 😜
Im rediscovering old hardware and fitting software
And try and find ways to digitally integrate obsolete software
Into modern setups
Its the new hardware
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i couldnt see it on gopher http which dir is it in
if somebody adds something new it is in the "upload" folder.
in the case of "Peak â„¢ 2.62.sit" (2.5 kb) is has been sorted under "trash" because it is broken. *hint* :)
Ouch, so sorry. Let me check.
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Just reuploaded, the filesize is 2.56 MB ina .sit archive. Can you please check if now is working?
Thanks.
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Just reuploaded, the filesize is 2.56 MB ina .sit archive. Can you please check if now is working?
Not working. What client are you using? Upload it as an attachment to the forum otherwise and we'll add it to the server for download :)
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Just reuploaded, the filesize is 2.56 MB ina .sit archive. Can you please check if now is working?
Not working. What client are you using? Upload it as an attachment to the forum otherwise and we'll add it to the server for download :)
Using Nostalgia on Mojave, so bad it doesn't work. Placing it here as attachment.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
;)
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Using Nostalgia on Mojave, so bad it doesn't work. Placing it here as attachment.
I think it might be the ™ character that messes up something. Need to look into other Hotline client options for Intel Macs. Thanks for informing :)
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Using Nostalgia on Mojave, so bad it doesn't work. Placing it here as attachment.
Added "Obsession" to the clients list on the Downloads (http://macos9lives.com/downloads) page. Give it a go! :)
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Using Nostalgia on Mojave, so bad it doesn't work. Placing it here as attachment.
when i saw that name i suspected a file broken from a formerly broken harddrive, becaue that is how such files look.
but it is obviously the trademark symbol which didnt went through and has something to do with either you or the hotline server.
i "simplify" all names and versionnumbers the way i do because i think that trademark symbols and other werd stuff is not very friendly to the eyes - and to save characters where possible bc of classic MacOS.
as it seems there are more reasons. :o
will replace 260 with 262 later.
btw. does v200 have any relevance? we shall only list relevant releases.
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Using Nostalgia on Mojave, so bad it doesn't work. Placing it here as attachment.
when i saw that name i suspected a file broken from a formerly broken harddrive, becaue that is how such files look.
but it is obviously the trademark symbol which didnt went through and has something to do with either you or the hotline server.
i "simplify" all names and versionnumbers the way i do because i think that trademark symbols and other werd stuff is not very friendly to the eyes - and to save characters where possible bc of classic MacOS.
as it seems there are more reasons. :o
will replace 260 with 262 later.
btw. does v200 have any relevance? we shall only list relevant releases.
Lets remove all weird characters :)
I say every version that runs on os9 shall be available
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Using Nostalgia on Mojave, so bad it doesn't work. Placing it here as attachment.
when i saw that name i suspected a file broken from a formerly broken harddrive, becaue that is how such files look.
but it is obviously the trademark symbol which didnt went through and has something to do with either you or the hotline server.
i "simplify" all names and versionnumbers the way i do because i think that trademark symbols and other werd stuff is not very friendly to the eyes - and to save characters where possible bc of classic MacOS.
as it seems there are more reasons. :o
will replace 260 with 262 later.
btw. does v200 have any relevance? we shall only list relevant releases.
Lets remove all weird characters :)
I say every version that runs on os9 shall be available
I agree; on the historical side, we must obtain all the versions we can.
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"all" will definetly not happen, not even for major applications. :)
but 2.6, 3, and 4 are literally different programs with different options, just like soundmaker 1&2, orange vocoder 1.5 and 2, quark 4 and quark 5, you name it.
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btw. does v200 have any relevance? we shall only list relevant releases.
Just make sure that no software version is further lost by backing up anything "not relevant" in the Macintosh Garden first. Then Mac OS 9 Lives can focus on "the top stuff".
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you want to me "just" sort, test and upload 100,000s of files? for what? for smilesdavis´ imaginary museum? :P
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you want to me "just" sort, test and upload 100,000s of files? for what? for smilesdavis´ imaginary museum? :P
No, there's a functional reason for it: check out this Garden thread (http://macintoshgarden.org/forum/uploading-incremental-updates) about someone asking what's the point of archiving all versions of a given software, and see my specific reply (http://macintoshgarden.org/forum/uploading-incremental-updates#comment-103691) to it there.
In short, we must never underestimate the utility of older software. Sometimes it's discovered 20+ years later that an older version we thought was "useless" or "obsolete" or "irrelevant" had something of value that no one knew about, such as the case with Disk Copy 6.3.1 and earlier (as opposed to the wildly more popular Disk Copy 6.5b13 and 6.3.3).
This is just one example. As a matter of principle, we archive everything.
Also, no, that doesn't mean you "need to sort, test and upload 100,000s of files". Well, except for the "upload" bit, of course: rather than making 100,000 pages, and doing 100,000 tests, you can simply dump it all in one place and deem it done. Worst case scenario, you make it a single file and dump it all. Like this ginormous page I created here (http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/ppc-audio-software-os7-osx58-some-68k-apps) (of someone else's vast archive). From there, other people can "dismantle" the download, test things and make individual pages, as is often the case with magazine CDs and whatnot.
Rather than testing anything directly yourself, you can simply see if the MD5 checksum of the single file you made matches the MD5 checksum that is automatically generated by the Garden. Then you will know it is good (else we reupload, but this is usually not needed). You can use the crazy-fast, ultra-new md5classic (http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/md5classic) app (version 1.0b4) to check it directly from Mac OS 9.2.2 (or even from System 1, or Mac OS X 10.4.11) even, although if the file is bigger than 2 GB, another program from another OS will be needed (although I wouldn't be surprised if md5classic gets updated for large file support sometime soon), such as HashMyFiles (http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/hash_my_files.html) on Windows or WINE.
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Using Nostalgia on Mojave, so bad it doesn't work. Placing it here as attachment.
I think it might be the ™ character that messes up something. Need to look into other Hotline client options for Intel Macs. Thanks for informing :)
I can't get Nostalgia to work on Catalina either. It loads and runs but never makes a connection.
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you want to me "just" sort, test and upload 100,000s of files? for what? for smilesdavis´ imaginary museum? :P
You did 1 month without an ad hominem attack towards me
Milestone unlocked
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you want to me "just" sort, test and upload 100,000s of files? for what? for smilesdavis´ imaginary museum? :P
No, there's a functional reason for it: check out this Garden thread (http://macintoshgarden.org/forum/uploading-incremental-updates) about someone asking what's the point of archiving all versions of a given software, and see my specific reply (http://macintoshgarden.org/forum/uploading-incremental-updates#comment-103691) to it there.
In short, we must never underestimate the utility of older software. Sometimes it's discovered 20+ years later that an older version we thought was "useless" or "obsolete" or "irrelevant" had something of value that no one knew about, such as the case with Disk Copy 6.3.1 and earlier (as opposed to the wildly more popular Disk Copy 6.5b13 and 6.3.3).
This is just one example. As a matter of principle, we archive everything.
Also, no, that doesn't mean you "need to sort, test and upload 100,000s of files". Well, except for the "upload" bit, of course: rather than making 100,000 pages, and doing 100,000 tests, you can simply dump it all in one place and deem it done. Worst case scenario, you make it a single file and dump it all. Like this ginormous page I created here (http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/ppc-audio-software-os7-osx58-some-68k-apps) (of someone else's vast archive). From there, other people can "dismantle" the download, test things and make individual pages, as is often the case with magazine CDs and whatnot.
Rather than testing anything directly yourself, you can simply see if the MD5 checksum of the single file you made matches the MD5 checksum that is automatically generated by the Garden. Then you will know it is good (else we reupload, but this is usually not needed). You can use the crazy-fast, ultra-new md5classic (http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/md5classic) app (version 1.0b4) to check it directly from Mac OS 9.2.2 (or even from System 1, or Mac OS X 10.4.11) even, although if the file is bigger than 2 GB, another program from another OS will be needed (although I wouldn't be surprised if md5classic gets updated for large file support sometime soon), such as HashMyFiles (http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/hash_my_files.html) on Windows or WINE.
You did this megapost? Youre a hero to retro audio. Without this post a lot of K’s would have been lost.
Iio, im sure you have got a vast archive and im sure from your point of view we are youngsters/unexperienced imbicels but every contribution counts, if there were 100000 daily posts in this retro
World sure we would need to have harsh rules but at this point every share is welcome
This isnt exactly racing 0day in the year 2000