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[Syntho]

I have an ATI 9000. The monitor resolutions only give me a few options. I think that by updating the drivers and ATI software that it'll display the rest that are available (yes, I clicked 'show all'). Where can I get the latest installer/drivers for it?

http://gona.mactar.hu/ATI_Mac/ I checked here and installed the last updater from 2005 but that seems to be just an 'updater'.

[supernova777]

install the 8500 installer it works for all ati chips
and the updates are updates for that .. its the initial installer
(notice it says 1.0)

http://gona.mactar.hu/ATI_Mac/#8500

it doesnt say radeon 9000 beause the radeon 9000 wasnt even out in february 2002 i dont think but
thats the initial installer and then u can go about installing updates once u have that to start with.

note to fellow admins:
we should probably mirror those pages on our own server in case they decide to dissappear.

[Syntho]

Funny, I installed that and it didn't work. It tells me that I don't have an ATI card installed on this system. In the system profiler it says this:

Card Type: ATY,DDParent
Card Name: ATY, PheonixParent
Card Model: ATY,RY250

and so on.

[supernova777]

yes well your system is clearly just retarded..perhaps it burnt a piece of its brain last nite and now thinks its a geforce 2mx

the installer clearly says to install the drivers BEFORE putting the card into the system, i assume this is so it can be propery recognized.. so.. if u dont have another card to swap it out during driver install i would just try to reboot untill it sees it properly?

Requirements:
 – Before installing your ATI Radeon 7000/8500 Mac Edition graphics accelerator card into your Power Macintosh computer, you must first install the driver
 – With Radeon 7000/8500, after a logic board reset or cuda chip reset that resets the computer's parameter RAM, the first time the computer will boot and load the OS with dark screen, but after a restart it will boot with normal screen
 – The installer recommends Mac OS 9.2.1

if u installed with diehard's freshdraginstall file.. then the driver should already be installed.

[Syntho]

I installed a bunch of those files, and some combination of them worked.

now my problem is that I can't turn the resolution to certain ones. I have the option of 1920X1080, and it works fine... but it makes everything on the screen too small. I'd like to roll it back with the same aspect ratio (16X9) to something like 1600X900 but it doesn't give me that. it gives me 1920X1080, and other resolutions that aren't 16X9 like 1280X1024.

[Syntho]

http://www2.ati.com/manuals/RADEON9000ProMacEdUserGuide.pdf - it definitely supports it. Just not showing up.

[supernova777]

so you are trying to get 1680x1050 widescreen resolution on a radeon 9000.. hmm
it works fine on my geforce4mx + geforce2mx
pretty sure widescreen is supported on the basic rage128.

[Syntho]

I tried to install some of those updaters too and it's giving me some weird error saying the program that installed it is no longer there, or sometihng

[supernova777]

can u please provide your fulls system details

you are doing this with an mdd ? radeon 9000?
and u have isntalled 9.2.2?

what monitor are u using?

[Syntho]

MDD 1.25, Radeon 9000, 9.2, Acer G235H. The Acer definitely supports it too.

[Syntho]

Also, I find that it won't windowbox my screen when changing it to a 4:3 resolution like 640X480. It stretches it and filled the entire monitor instead.

I also tried taking off the Apple Display to DVI adapter and it still gives me the same.

[Syntho]

I must have the wrong drivers.

[Syntho]

Where do you check for the driver versions in OS9? Not seeing it on the system profiler.

[Syntho]

It's weird that you have to install a driver with the card out of it. Now that I think of it, the back of my G4 has that little paper with all that it came with. It says that it came with an Nvidia TI card, but I received a Radeon 9000 installed in it. I read some instructions elsewhere that said to put the original card in, install the drivers, then switch.

However maybe all of that isn't necessary since as you said, DieHard's installation comes with the drivers.

[supernova777]

i just read a post saying that installing certain updates REMOVED some resolutions from being available..
did u have the resolutions available before?
and now they arent available?

dont go installing every single update
if it works.. dont mess with it

DID U DISABLE THE OTHER CARD TYPE EXTeNSIONS?
ie if u have an ati card go into extension manager and disable all the NVIDIA extensions
and vice versa if u have Nvidia disable the ATI extensions

[Syntho]

They weren't there before, and they aren't now. I just disabled the nvidia extensions. No go.

[supernova777]

how is the monitor connected ?
i bet u have it connected via DVI
connect it via VGA and u will have your resolutions.
these cards dont support alot of resolutions on DVI.

[Syntho]

The manual says otherwise though. There's an Apple connector and a DVI connector. I've tried both and neither work.

Is there supposed to be a 'driver version' area in the system profiler under Display Card? I don't see one on mine.

[supernova777]

http://www.motherboardpoint.com/radeon-9000-pro-widescreen-lcd-t75877.html

i dont have a radeon 9000 so i cant help u but i have no problem getting widescreen res with my 8500, my geforce4mx and my geforce2mx .. but.. i connect them via VGA and like i said i know theres more limitations with dvi supported resolutions wise

checking the manual i found these supported resolutions for the 9000 pro:

Display
Resolution
Maximum
Refresh Hz
640 x 480 200
720 x 480 200
800 x 600 200
832 x 624 75
1024 x 768 200
1152 x 864 200
1152 x 870 75
1280 x 960 200
1280 x 1024 150
1600 x 900 150
1600 x 1024 150
1600 x 1200 120
1792 x 1344 75
1856 x 1392 75
1920 x 1080 120
1920 x 1200 100
1920 x 1440 90
2048 x 1152 100
2048 x 1280 100
2048 x 1536 85

and then it says a seperate resolution table for "Digital flat panel"

TMDS
Frequency
Resolution Freq Hz
165MHz 1920 x 1200 60
140MHz 1600 x 1200 60
140MHz 1600 x 1024 60
125Mhz 1280 x 1024 60

but then at the bottom it says:
The RADEON 9000 PRO MAC EDITION has been used
successfully, without modification, set as high as 3840 x 2400
resolution at 15Hz on Digital Flat Panels that support this
resolution

"VGA Monitors are supported using a DVI-I-to-VGA video
adapter."

i would try using the dvi->vga adapter and see if it makes a difference

[supernova777]

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=371506

this person reports it working fine at 1680x1050 *with a dvi-vga adapter*