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[aBc]

(via the Nostalgia Client and the Hotline Server)

 

Thats: hotline.macos9lives.com > MacOS Extensions & Utilities > Hardware Drivers > Audio & Midi Interfaces > M-Audio.

However (at present) if you just paste hotline.macos9lives.com into your browser… you get this:



So… you must instead, use a Hotline Client as explained here: http://macos9lives.com/downloads 

[Knezzen]

However (at present) if you just paste hotline.macos9lives.com into your browser… you get this:

Not anymore. The webserver is shared with System 7 Today and other websites we run, so when a subdomain is not configured in the webserver it will redirect to the first site configured in the configuration file, which is system7today.com.

The downloads are avaliable in the same structure over gopher as well at gopher://gopher.macos9lives.com/ or over a http to gopher proxy at http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw?a=gopher%3A%2F%2Fgopher.macos9lives.com

[aBc]

Well surprisingly in this particular instance and more
specifically; for those seeking to downgrade the
firmware in their M-Audio 410’s in order to use them
with OS 9… there is still another option...
other than Hotline or Gopher.

M-Audio’s Support Knowledge Base
@ https://m-audio.com/support/drivers

EXAMPLE:



So of the six primary M-Audio files mentioned in this
thread, there is perhaps a more direct route for the file
downloads.

fw410 10013 cd.exe
Firewire 410 v1.0.1 build3 driver
FireWire OSX 1.5.3
FireWire OSX 1.9.3

Also mentioned:
FireWire OSX 1.6 Build 1174 (Audiophile & FireWire 410)
https://m-audio.com/support/download/drivers/firewire-osx-1.6-build-1174
AND: FWUni OS9 1.0.4 b42 install

But all are not necessary depending upon your
specific OS / M-Audio device / or one’s chosen
firmware downgrade approach. (There’s even an
OMS2_3_8.sit file available for OS 9 there.)

[Mardeec]

I’m late to this party, but I am nonetheless overjoyed to have my FW410 working with Cubasis in OS9.2.2.  There are several different paths outlined in this thread for how to get the FW410 working in OS9.  I followed the steps posted by aBc, mostly because I had a machine with identical specs to the one he used (OS9.2.2 and OS10.4.6 on a single partitioned HD) (https://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=6942.msg53247#msg53247).

Here are the steps I followed.  I used external power for the FW410 and made sure the computer and FW410 were powered down before connecting or removing the Firewire cable.

1.   In OS9, install Firewire 410 v.1.0.1 build 3.  When I connected the FW410 and opened its control panel, the Bootloader and Firmware fields were blank on the About tab.
2.   In OS10.4.6, I installed FW410_OSX_build_1054.dmg.  When I connected the FW410 and opened its app, the “No FW410 devices found” window opened.
3.   Shutdown, disconnected FW410, and still in 10.4.6 installed FireWire_OSX_1_5_3.dmg.  Reconnect FW410. Opening the FW410 app/control panel revealed the desired 2003 dates for Bootloader and Firmware on the About tab. Shutdown.
4.   Boot in OS9.2.2.  FW410 is still connected. When I opened the FW410 control panel, the “No FW410 devices found” opened.  I closed the window, made sure the FW410 was turned on (via the power switch on the front panel), and opened the control panel again.  Same “No FW410 devices found” window.  I repeated this cycle again, and the control panel opened, showing the desired information in the About tab.

I then moved the FW410 to another Mac with OS9.2.2, Firewire 410 v.1.0.1 build 3, and Cubasis installed. It worked fine and sounded good with the Cubasis demo song.

Thanks for visibleprism, aBc, and everyone who posted on this thread.  I’m sorry I missed the original discovery and discussion of the FW410 resurrection, but no one is happier to have this hunk working in OS9. 

[aBc]

I am so happy to hear this Mardeec - especially after all of that time that we spent pulling large clumps of our hair out over this a few years back (and for those pulling their hair out even before us). Visibleprism came outta nowhere (it seems) and cracked it.

Now… one of these days… I’ll test it with a Mac mini.

Unless someone else would like to try it and report.

BIG GIANT CONGRATS Mardeec!

[aBc]

FYI

Oh ha-ha!

Recent check today of M-Audio’s Support Knowledge Base
https://m-audio.com/support/drivers reveals that they have
now removed the “Legacy” Series of drivers. So, no more
M-Audio Firewire 410 files are there.

See previous:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=6942.msg56371#msg56371

Maybe they were dealing with more downloads for a “Legacy”
product that they no longer wish to support, when they would
likely much rather sell something newer in their product line?

At any rate, check some listed prices (yesterday) for the old
Firewire 410 units.



So, perhaps a tad bit more than a M-Audio Transit (if you can even find one of those).

Certainly a very great value (especially after the OS 9 “regression”).
Here’s a rundown of the FW 410 features from March of 2004.
https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/m-audio-firewire-410

Uh-oh... less expensive than the Transit!

[smilesdavis]

i got a boxed firewire 410 in the mail atm

can anyone attack the required files please

[aBc]

If you’re going the “Windows XP route” see post:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=6942.msg53247#msg53247

There it mentions: fw410_10013_cd.exe installer,
and the Firewire 410 v1.0.1 build3 driver
and the FW410_OSX_build_1054.dmg
(all can be found on “our” *hybrid disc download file?).
*The M-Audio Anthology and Build 3? Check both.

If you read and follow through the post noted above, you’ll note that I also used the FireWire_OSX_1_5_3.zip file downloaded from the M-Audio website. [No longer available from M-Audio’s site - but it is also attached to the aforementioned post.] Visibleprism used 1.9.3 but he was running OS 10.4.11, whereas I was running 10.4.6 - and I don’t know if 1.9.3 is on our *hybrid disc or not.



Now... AtariMan mentioned that he did not need a Windows XP machine but I’ve not tested that. You might follow his path via his post: http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=6942.msg53696#msg53696 …and he also attached (2) files in his next post after that. So you might try that first and report your success(?). If none, then there’s the Windows XP route.

*AND you might want to also review Mardeec’s most recent post:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=6942.msg56745#msg56745

Have fun and let us know what works for you.

[aBc]

In current, related news (this date)…

M-AUDIO has recently omitted the Legacy files from their https://m-audio.com/support/drivers

Luckily, we’ve nearly all of the files here - or on the Hotline server.

[smilesdavis]

Lets make a bundle for 410 incl how to

[G40]

Lets make a bundle for 410 incl how to

Nice idea.

[turbo.d]

Hi to you all,

I have an new addition to this topic. I've done the same procedure with an Firewire 1814 unit.
I still had my setup with the Sawtooth Powermac running on 10.4.11
(software FireWire Audiophile    1.6 Build 1174 (Mac)    11-14-2005 )
I've red that for all the firewire units the software was the same.

I connected the Firewire 1814 unit booted the Mac in MacOS10.4 and when the desktop showed I turned on the Firewire 1814 unit. At first it only showed a blue led. After a miniute an amber Led turned on.

I then opend the Firewire control panel and it showed the unit.
I then rebooted the PowerMac in MacOS9.2.1 the Firewire1814 unit showed imediately.
And said the following:

Bootloader: 2004/03/30
firmware: 2004/06/22
Panel 1.0
Driver 1.0

My panel is recognized within Reason 2.5, which was my main goal.
I now have an audio unit with 18 output channels which are separately routed from Reason.

I've tested the unit on 2 PowerMac G4 units with MacOS9 and the unit is recognized on both.

regards
Marcel

[turbo.d]

Yet an other update. I recently bought a MacMini G4 1,25GHZ.
I've installed an MSATA SSD with an adapter. Then I installed MAcOS 10.5.8, 10.4.11 & 9.2.2 from the download on this site.

I installed the M-Audio drivers on both the 10.5.8 partition as well as in the 9.2.2
The 9.2.2 has the FWUni_OS9_1.0.4_b42_install. Which gave me the 1.0 panel

The firewire Audiophile unit works on system 9.2.2 as default audio device. Now I have to test the ASIO drivers and OMS for midi.

regards
Marcel

[smilesdavis]

Can we make a m-audio on mac mini install image ?

[turbo.d]

I've been testing the setup for a while now, and to be honest I'm not happy. The MacMini G4 is hanging a lot. In OS10.5.8 with the 1.4 driver I saw a lot of kernal panic.
When I installed the 1.6 driver The unit wasn't recognized probably due to incompatibility with MacOS 10.5.8

Have reinstalled the system several times, when the basic setup was done I even carbon-copy cloned the boot device. After that I decided to replace the M-audio unit with an Edirol UA-25 which I had lying around. Within OS10.5.8 that setup proof to be more stable.

I now am testing the UA-25 with MacOS9 on the same MacMini.
The PowerMac MDD with the 1814 and OS9.2.2 has been stable since I've set it up.

regards
Marcel