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Philgood

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Unstable system ?...solved!!!
« on: July 21, 2014, 07:18:48 PM »

Don't know whats happening here.

I've just "installed" again a fresh drag-install OS9 image to my harddrive because of a problem i have with the audio system in Cubase 5 VST/32 but it's still happening.

As soon as i add an audio recording to a song and stop the playback and jump to the start locator again the playback engine just seems to stop working as i can't hear anything from there on. I noticed the CPU light of the VST performance meter lights up constantly, so the only cure is to start cubase again.
I thought it could be a conflict between extensions so i started deactivating some including the two soundcard driver extensions but that doesn't help so i finally  did a clean drag-install of Mac OS9 again without installing any additional soundcard driver (only default Soundmanager) and installed only Cubase 5.1 but again as soon as i mix the midi song with some recorded audio it's gets screwed after some stop and resume of the playback.

I also tried to set the audio folder for the recordings to the same system hard drive as i have a second one for this purpose but it's stays the same.

I did all the basic recommendations of how to install and set-up of Mac OS9 and Cubase (400.000k of memory) so i'm clueless. Maybe hardware problems ?
Could you recommend some procedure for further testing ?

 
« Last Edit: July 24, 2014, 04:18:29 AM by Philgood »
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Re: Unstable system ?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2014, 07:41:24 PM »

Just saw this thread http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=34.0

Will try now to install Cubase again with the serial given here on the forum rather than using the one i have which came for the original 5.0 CD version...maybe it's only a registration problem as mentioned by MacTron in the above thread.

Update: Still the same. Will do a clean drag-install again after getting some sleep. Late here.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2014, 08:05:15 PM by Philgood »
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Re: Unstable system ?
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2014, 01:36:02 AM »

No progress.

I did a clean drag install of Mac OS9 and installed Cubase with the serial provided from here but it behaving the same.
I did load the demo song from the cubase cd installer as i think it could be a good reference rather than starting to record something of my own and it's behaving the same: as soon as i jump between the locators the sound engine of Cubase stops working. Only restarting Cubase solves it.

I saw that the cubase 5.1 web installer put a strange named extension in the extension folder:  *666 (there is actually another key represented by the asterisk but you'll get the idea)
Virus ?!

I'm now on a new drag install again and will try another DAW to exclude that it is a hardware problem.

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Re: Unstable system ?
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2014, 02:55:40 AM »

where did u downloda teh cubase installer from?
from this site?
we have an infected file?
the 666 extension is known as the sevendust virus yes

please detail the exact locations of which files u have used here in this thread so we might get to the bottom of this problem and have no other users affected by this issue in the future
which exact files are u downloading
we have multiple places to download said files
please be 100% specific
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Re: Unstable system ?
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2014, 09:48:19 AM »

I'll try my best.

The mac came with leopard installed on the main harddrive but i bought this system to be able to run a fast OS9 machine so i formated the second harddrive and used the drag-install from the forum.
Then i proceded as mentioned in the guide.
I copied the drag-install to a folder to have a fresh backup in case of reinstalling the OS and booted to the second harddrive to do the same with the first less the copying of the drag-install to a backup folder as i already had a copy on the second and booted finally to the first harddrive.
I downloaded the Internetbrowser Classilla, i think i downloaded it through my PC and copied to the mac with an USB stick, don't remember well and from there on i downloaded everything through the mac with classilla.
i first downloaded the drivers for the edirol fa-101 and the tascam us-428 and the cubase web installer from steinbergs webpage, the 5.2 public beta version because i was interested in using the system link function with
the cubase 6 AI version i have running on my PC with the steinberg firewire soundcard mr816 running windows7.
then i installed some VSTi plugins: FM7, ModelE, all from images i burnt to Cd's downloaded from the internet. I
remember that i downloaded FM7 from a Torrent and the ModelE i had a copy from the past. I also refreshed a copy of a burnt cubase vst 5/32 cd, burning it again because the old one wouldn't authorize any install complaining about scratches on that cd.
i also remember that i recently found traces of that sevendust virus of a complete scan i did on my windows machine where i host software downloaded.
As i formated both harddrives i think i maybe have some infected files i'm trying to install so i think i'll have to start over again and try to stay as clean as posible and to see if i can minimize risks with downloading everything from my windows machine again only from sources from here leaving the mac disconnected from internet.
i'll have to look into how to install the OS9 now as i want to delete everything on my two harddrives. Maybe from my 2Gb USB stick with that openfirmware trick ?
I have the possibility to do it through the firewire target mode from my eMac with OSX Tiger/Leopard but i don' t want to mess up anything mixing OS9 with OSX.

Any advice highly appreciated!

Thank you Chris.
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Re: Unstable system ?
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2014, 09:56:39 AM »

I'll try my best.

The mac came with leopard installed on the main harddrive but i bought this system to be able to run a fast OS9 machine so i formated the second harddrive and used the drag-install from the forum.

there is more then one version of this "Drag install" posted which is why i asked u to be specific
i just wanted to know 2 things..
which exact url for the cubase u downloaded
and exact url for the drag install version u downloaded

http:// ??

we need to delete whatever file it is u downloaded so noone else gets infected


Then i proceded as mentioned in the guide.
I copied the drag-install to a folder to have a fresh backup in case of reinstalling the OS and booted to the second harddrive to do the same with the first less the copying of the drag-install to a backup folder as i already had a copy on the second and booted finally to the first harddrive.
I downloaded the Internetbrowser Classilla, i think i downloaded it through my PC and copied to the mac with an USB stick, don't remember well and from there on i downloaded everything through the mac with classilla.
i first downloaded the drivers for the edirol fa-101 and the tascam us-428 and the cubase web installer from steinbergs webpage, the 5.2 public beta version because i was interested in using the system link function with
the cubase 6 AI version i have running on my PC with the steinberg firewire soundcard mr816 running windows7.
then i installed some VSTi plugins: FM7, ModelE, all from images i burnt to Cd's downloaded from the internet. I
remember that i downloaded FM7 from a Torrent and the ModelE i had a copy from the past. I also refreshed a copy of a burnt cubase vst 5/32 cd, burning it again because the old one wouldn't authorize any install complaining about scratches on that cd.
i also remember that i recently found traces of that sevendust virus of a complete scan i did on my windows machine where i host software downloaded.
As i formated both harddrives i think i maybe have some infected files i'm trying to install so i think i'll have to start over again and try to stay as clean as posible and to see if i can minimize risks with downloading everything from my windows machine again only from sources from here leaving the mac disconnected from internet.

you shouldnt have to delete everything the virus should not be spreading or infecting other files on a windows based computer while being stored on the drive
its a mac only virus that can only infect when an executable is run (pretty sure about this someone correct me if im wrong)

i'll have to look into how to install the OS9 now as i want to delete everything on my two harddrives. Maybe from my 2Gb USB stick with that openfirmware trick ?
I have the possibility to do it through the firewire target mode from my eMac with OSX Tiger/Leopard but i don' t want to mess up anything mixing OS9 with OSX.

Any advice highly appreciated!

Thank you Chris.
i would reccomend wiping a single drive first, repartition in 2, installing tiger 10.4.x, and then booting into tiger, installing to the 2nd partition with the proper drag install file or os9general.dmg
and then u can wipe the 2nd drive.. alternatively if u dont want to partition u can wipe one drive first and install osx and then wipe the 2nd and install os9 to each drive exclusively....
but before u do any of that .. its important that we verify the location of the infected file.

perhaps u got infected from steinberg
i would reccommend u dont download anything from them untill we figure out where this infection is coming frm..... download the files from edirol or tascam directly or get them from another user who has them on cd. we need to find otu where this virus infection is coming from.. syntho has been infected.. i havent. i was wondering if it was from me on one of my other macs because i was the one who uploaded teh fresh drag install for osx.. not the os9 version theres two versions posted one is a stuffit file and the other is a img or dmg or smi or something that i created..



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Re: Unstable system ?
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2014, 10:05:31 AM »

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1035.0

is this the exact page u downloaded from?
if so did u download the os9 or osx link?

your cubase files, where they downloaded from here?

Cubase VST/24 v5.0 for Mac - Toast CD Image
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=844.0

Cubase VST/32 v5.0 for Mac OS 9 - Toast CD Image
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=849.0
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Re: Unstable system ?
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2014, 10:31:52 AM »

You've got a Virus. DH hasn't removed the link which gives a virus yet... see here http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1382.0
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Re: Unstable system ?
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2014, 10:36:45 AM »

32

I just messaged Mactron. I thought DH removed it already.
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Re: Unstable system ?
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2014, 10:54:00 AM »

I'm pretty sure i downloaded this version of the drag install...
https://www.adrive.com/public/8rCZTk/922DragInstall.sea.bin

As the cubase installer i used first the original one from my vst 5/32 cd copy and downloaded from steinberg first the 5.2 public beta then the 5.1 version so i ended up with 3 program versions of cubase in the cubase folder.
Later after starting over again i also did download the 5.1 installer from here
https://www.adrive.com/public/7phbGy/CubaseVST32_51r1.sit.bin
with the original cd copy i have in the drive for the authorizing.
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Re: Unstable system ?
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2014, 10:58:54 AM »

That 5.1 update is no good for right now. It's got the 666 virus. ftp://ftp.steinberg.net/Archives/Cubase_VST/Mac/Cubase_VST_51x/51r1/CubaseVST32_51r1.sit - that's a good link without the virus.
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2014, 11:01:01 AM »

That 5.1 update is no good for right now. It's got the 666 virus. ftp://ftp.steinberg.net/Archives/Cubase_VST/Mac/Cubase_VST_51x/51r1/CubaseVST32_51r1.sit - that's a good link without the virus.

so then that file was posted there by Mactron or Diehard
one of them is infected
it says diehard
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someone needs to pm him with a link to this thread
diehard,
were u installing + opening some old archives around april ?
that could have infected the rest of your files?
that was before or after the adrive switch???
or right around the time we were moving files from old server to new adrive system

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Re: Unstable system ?
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2014, 11:45:47 AM »

So the drag installs are not infected ?

Which anti-virus program are you guys using ? just to be sure...
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Re: Unstable system ?
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2014, 12:05:23 PM »

Check the thread I linked you to called Lag in OS9. I posted links to the process of removing the virus. The drag installs are fine, it's the 5.1 installer that's infected.
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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2014, 12:10:47 PM »

So the drag installs are not infected ?

Which anti-virus program are you guys using ? just to be sure...

I am running this and i do not have the virus
i also did not download that 5.1 installer because i had this file on my drive from an earlier time, having downloaded it directly from steinberg myself

syntho also said that the one on the stienberg ftp is unaffected
im really surprised that diehard has done nothing/ said nothing
the whole time this has been discussed  the last week or so
he must really be distracted with family stuff
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Re: Unstable system ?
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2014, 12:20:08 PM »

Ok. Thank you all. Will read that whole thread.

In the meantime i downloaded Virex from the Macintosh Garden
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/virex-61
and run it with the 2007 virus definition file as mentioned in the comments seems to be the only one detecting it reliable and i found the sevendust virus in the mentioned cubase 5.1 file and in the Stuffit expander program of both harddrives.
i guess that is where it copy the virus itself also Chris said that it didn't do that ?

Anyway i used the "repair" option of Virex and will continue to install again Cubase to see if it's working now.
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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2014, 12:31:05 PM »

i used "AGAX" or whatever and it came back negative
http://defyne.org/agax/
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Re: Unstable system ?
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2014, 03:23:09 PM »

Cubase is still unusable.

I installed the 5.2pb first and after the 5.1 version but the vst performance lights up still after i stop the playback and don't sound again at resume.
i have to start cubase again to reset sound engine.

i also changed the two ram sticks but that didn't matter also.

virex didn't find any sevendust virus again so i'll delete everything and will start off again.
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Re: Unstable system ?
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2014, 11:05:16 PM »

both the 5,2 and the 5.1r1 can live happily in the same folder okay and load properly
from there.
Whats your system specs?
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