FINALLY… succeeded in installing Unsupported OS 9 on a FW800 MDD with Tiger AND Leopard - on a multi-OS-bootable, multi-partitioned, single HDD (greater than 128 GB in size)
without the use of another Mac / Firewire Target disk mode / et cetera. And all accomplished with only the FW800 MDD itself, the Unsupported Installer Disk and a USB stick with Drive Setup 2.1 on it.
AND… Date & Time remains stable / accurate between boots of each OS with this approach.
Stop reading now if you’ve already accomplished this OR if you’re well-acquainted with these FIVE pages:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,762.msg10461.html#msg10461Here again, the “Unsupported” installer DL:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,2143.0.htmlOnward… Boot with Unsupported Installer disk & insert USB stick.
Quit SimpleText, quit Drive Setup 1.9.2 and open Drive Setup 2.1 from the USB stick.
*Sometimes DS 2.1 doesn’t display after opening / go to Finder and drag down to make it active.
Here on a 300 GB HDD - Jumper set to Cable Select. Darkened drive = USB Stick with Drive Setup 2.1.
After first single partition format above… choose Custom Setup.
And partition the HDD. (All partitions here well under 190 GB.)
Resulting in 3 partitions: Untitled, Untitled 2 and Untitled 3.
DO NOT INSTALL OS 9 AT THIS TIME!All dependent upon initial erase, format and partitioning… with Drive Setup 2.1 / to achieve partitions greater than 128 GB with OS 9 drivers intact. Then
without installing OS 9, shut down the machine and reboot with the earliest / oldest version of OS X installer on HD partition “Untitled 2” (saving the first “Untitled” partition for “last-installed” OS 9, later). This preserves the Extended Plus format on the first “Untitled” partition, untouched and ready for OS 9 -
AFTER you’ve installed all versions of OS X that you might want.
I chose to install Tiger on “Untitled 2”. [If you also intend to install Leopard, save that for “Untitled 3” -
after the installation of Tiger.]
And here, rather than using Disk Utility from the available early, drop down menu of the Tiger Installer to format “Untitled 2” as
Mac OS Extended / Journaled… elected instead to choose the later
Erase and Install option (instead of
Install for first time, Archive and install, etc.). Select Options when you get to this screen below.
NOTE the selection of Erase and Install allows selection of Mac OS Extended (Journaled) for formatting.
After “OK” above, you can choose to Customize your install, omitting or including some things.
Your choices.
After clicking Install, there’s always this DVD check… which I skip to save time.
Both OS X installs do individually take a very long time to complete.
Patience.A very good guide for installation of Leopard here:
https://www.lifewire.com/installing-os-x-10-5-leopard-erase-method-2260320 (Similar to installation of Tiger - but doesn’t cover the necessary disabling of Spotlight.) After installation and Tiger reboot, immediately turn off everything in Spotlight and drag all other partitions’ disk icons to the Privacy option window of Spotlight Prefs. (I do this even before >and after< renaming of the various partitions.
Everything is pre-checked above, when you first reboot into Tiger after install. You can re-check items that
you’d like to include, after all of your installs. Below, under Spotlight Privacy… untitled partitions eventually
get renamed: Nine, Tiger and Leopard?
Now, after the Tiger install and the disabling of Spotlight and any other initial Tiger pref setups - perform the Leopard install using the same erase and install approach for the targeted “Untitled 3” partition. Of course you might only wish to install one version of OS X and if so, you still need to install the Unsupported OS 9 on the first, “Untitled” partition… AFTER installation of your single chosen OS X version.
INSERT:IF you DO install Leopard, don’t forget to disable (turn off)
Time Machine upon reboot, before installing OS 9… if you’d like to possibly avoid the dreaded BTree errors. (See GaryN’s post here:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,2830.msg18258.html#msg18258 and read through that thread for more info on the importance of this.) I simply don’t use Time Machine but make absolutely certain that it is OFF after rebooting your fresh Leopard Install.
Read Gary’s post!!! Installing Leopard first (when you also intend to install Tiger or some earlier version of OS X)… does not work and the machine simply won’t allow it. (I tried many, many times.) Multiple versions of OS X must be installed in an “age sequential” manner - oldest before newest. Untitled 2 before Untitled 3.
Lastly, and AFTER installing Tiger (and Leopard?) - then reboot with the Unsupported OS 9 Installer disk and install OS 9 on that first partition (“Untitled”) using the alt / option key to boot the disk. NO need to reformat or re-install OS 9 driver on this partition with Drive Setup 2.1 because this was done first before any other installs and should be fine as long as you’ve kept it untouched. AND IF you’ve set your Date, Time and location in your OS X partition(s) it will display the same in OS 9 and any subsequent boots into OS X versions. Easy to select an OS X boot from OS 9 afterwards but OS 9 does not appear as a selection from within any OS X. Booting into OS 9 from X requires the alt / option key boot.
Again, this works for those that do not have another machine to pre-format, partition and install OS’s with… AND this can all be accomplished using only the FW 800 MDD…. installer disc(s) and a USB stick with Drive Setup 2.1 on it. AND while I have done this on two separate 300 GB HDDs, larger drives might also be used.
Now, may have to test this with another added drive afterwards (also attached to same ATA-100 cable) set as Cable Select too? But again, may need to format, partition, etc. this proposed 2nd drive with this first drive removed AND then add both back in together, AFTERwards?
This was all tested on a 1.42 GHz DP - FW800.
Drive Setup 2.1 file for USB stick attached below @ bottom.
ADDENDUM:“I am so sorry, apparently the "boot" part of our install has the older drive setup 1.92 (even though our 9.22 image has the newer 2.1 version), so don't use the one on the root of the CD when you boot, instead double click our drive image and navigate to the Drive Setup 2.1, that one will see the whole hard drive past 128GB…” -DieHard
So apparently, there is no need for the USB stick / Drive Setup 2.1. According to DieHard (quoted above) from this post:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,6570.msg49372.html#msg49372 / He also mentions an alternative, possible use of
MacTron’s Bootable Rescue CD & Disk Repair http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,6570.msg49372.html#msg49372 (Refer to the above link for his post.) Thanks DieHard!
So now, seems that there are three ways to use / access Drive Setup 2.1.