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[supernova777]

best is best.. speed is part of being the best..

the geforce 6800 GT & Radeon 9800 pro are much improved in capability (memory thruput, graphics core clock mhz)
over the Geforce4 ti 4600 & Radeon 8500.... (last officially supported with real official drievrs)
i was bringing this up for discussion to see if others who have used these cards successffully could confirm if they do work or not
in mac os 9, as i had read in one place only that it was possible

[MacTron]

... for not having the temptation to boot X...

Nobody's point about Os X is discussed around here.

Faster? I will try when I receive my MDD 866 w PROMAX  DH.   

Please, don't forget to tell us about this card −as soon as you have it− I'm really interested.
If it is for Mac Os 9 of course.

[Syntho]

I'm in a predicament. I use video cards with 2x DVI connectors on them so I can have a dual monitor setup. The stock cards that come with the G4s usually have 1 DVI and a VGA port.

The problem with that is I won't be able to get 2x 1920X1080 monitors like usual. One of the monitors would be downgraded to analog and a smaller, squarish aspect ratio.

This means I've got to find a card that has dual DVI connectors and has drivers for OS9 Does anyone know of a card like that off the top of their head?

[supernova777]

I'm in a predicament. I use video cards with 2x DVI connectors on them so I can have a dual monitor setup. The stock cards that come with the G4s usually have 1 DVI and a VGA port.

The problem with that is I won't be able to get 2x 1920X1080 monitors like usual. One of the monitors would be downgraded to analog and a smaller, squarish aspect ratio.

This means I've got to find a card that has dual DVI connectors and has drivers for OS9 Does anyone know of a card like that off the top of their head?

if you really need digital  -- your going to want to get a card with DVI/ADC and a converter like this:

http://www.gefen.com/kvm/dproduct.jsp?prod_id=1198

but ive used VGA->DVI adapters + they seemed to work just fine

as far as real dual dvi cards go.. i think the radeon 9600 was the first to use this? and its not an os9 accellerated card
but may work ok?


then u can support 2x DVI connections.
just make sure that its the right DVI (dual link vs single link etc) ive had the problem of a dvi cord not fitting the dvi port before!

[Syntho]

Will the ADC to DVI adapter work just like a normal DVI connector? Those VGA to DVI adapters I tried seemed to downgrade the quality.

[Syntho]

I just read some reviews on Amazon and they said it works perfectly for a dual monitor setup.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000067RLH/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[supernova777]

yeah id say u are in the clear.. buy one of those adapters from ebay;)

[MacTron]

The stock cards that come with the G4s usually have 1 DVI and a VGA port.

No, this only happened in the first G4 models (Yikes & Sawtooth), the more usually video card connectors are ADC and DVI.

I'm in a predicament. I use video cards with 2x DVI connectors on them so I can have a dual monitor setup.

I use to have dual monitors setup too.

Just for the record, with two monitors the video card performance usually decrease in a half.

And as a curiosity, you can connect a Mac Os 9  video card with DVI output to a HDMI monitor with a cheap DVI to HDMI adapter, but without audio of course.

[supernova777]

there are some cards that would work if you are brave enough to try to flash a card yourself
although u would need a pc with an agp port (4x or 8x) to do this




this may be one of the best cards u can put in a g4

check my other post:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=638.msg1931#msg1931

but checking more closely here: http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/Blog/4B4B7BA2-7ABB-47F1-87AC-B03D37942BEE.html

"Not all cards may be used in MDD models. The geforce 6200 and all Geforce 6800 models are INCOMPATIBLE with the MDD" --japamac

so this 6600 geforce is for quicksilver/gigabit/digital audio/sawtooths only

[supernova777]

does anyone know if the 9250 is supported by the last os9 drivers?
i would think it would see it as a 9200 ?
but i could be wrong?

[Syntho]

I bought a Ti4600 and it seems there are some problems with it. I often get 'tracers' like in old Windows machines and soon after that the entire screen is so whack that I can't see anything. Plus I get random freezing and that may be a part of it. I also test with the diagnostics CD and sometimes the video card passes, sometimes it fails.

I'm just going to have to downgrade my card since I can't spend another $100 on the card. I need a card with two DVI ports or at least 1 DVI and 1 ADC. Is the GeForce 4 MX 64mb the best card with these ports other than the Ti4600? I need it to be an nVidia card since I had no luck with the resolution settings on a Radeon.

I wonder if I will see much of a downgrade in performance...

[MacTron]

... I get random freezing and that may be a part of it. I also test with the diagnostics CD and sometimes the video card passes, sometimes it fails.

May be your card have temperature problems. Check if the fan is working properly.
My Ti4600 had come with a extra cooling kit.

[supernova777]

do we have anyone that has successfully modded a pc ti4600 for use in a mac?

[MacTron]

do we have anyone that has successfully modded a pc ti4600 for use in a mac?

You have a lot of info about this. It will be a good idea if you start a thread specifically for this topic. You can start posting about this graphic card and about the more similar PC models you have found ...
The main points are the GPU and the VRAM, IMHO.

[supernova777]

i dont know how its done i just know that it can be done as there is a guy from hong kong selling modified shorter pc length cards on ebay atm

[supernova777]

this is the guy selling modified ti4600's so if he can do it.. then we should figure out how its done. becuase u can get these cards unmod' for alot less

Model：    nVidia Geforce 4 Ti4600
VRAM :    128MB 256-bit GDDR
Pixel pipeline    8
Slot Compatibility :    AGP 2x4x8x
ROM (Firmware) vevision：    v1105
Memory Clock ：    325MHz (650MHz)
GPU Clock：    300MHz
Compatibility ：    PPC PowerMac G4 AGP Model (*except AGP Graphics Rev.1 & G4 Cube)

OS Compatibility ：    OS 9.22 , OSX 10.1 Puma to 10.5.8 Leopard

Connectors ：    1x Single-Link DVI Port , 1x VGA Port

Display Modes ：    DVI, VGA , DVI +VGA **Extended Desktop, Mirrored Display (2 Display Simultaneously)
Maximum Analog Resolution ：    2048 x 1536 @ 85hz
Maximum DVI Resolution ：    Single-Link DVI Port - 1920 x 1200 @ 60Hz (up to 23" Apple Cinema HD Display)

Condition ：    Slightly Used * Excellent Working Condition

Package Includes：    

1x Video Card
Remark：    


100% Guaranteed Good Condition, Modified Card Compatible with PPC PowerMac G4 AGP Tower.

*True Quartz Extreme , Core Image & Core Animation (10.5 Leopard) Supported & Compatible.

[geforceg4]

I'm in a predicament. I use video cards with 2x DVI connectors on them so I can have a dual monitor setup. The stock cards that come with the G4s usually have 1 DVI and a VGA port.

The problem with that is I won't be able to get 2x 1920X1080 monitors like usual. One of the monitors would be downgraded to analog and a smaller, squarish aspect ratio.

This means I've got to find a card that has dual DVI connectors and has drivers for OS9 Does anyone know of a card like that off the top of their head?

isnt this backwards? isnt it the Analog VGA connector that provides a high-res connection? and the digial DVI connection that offers a lower Resolution? pretty sure that back in the day with my sawtooth, the vga connection on that card would be able to do 1680x1050 but the digital would not??? maybe im not remembering correctly..