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Display calibration / profiling in OS9
« on: November 25, 2018, 09:51:30 AM »

Does anyone here have experience in calibrating displays in Classic enviroment? If so, what software did you use 'back then'?
Being mostly audio oriented user, I never paid enough attention to this issue until recently, when I got deeply into color management and display profiling in OSX. I thought it would be fun to calibrate displays on my old Macs too, but I can't locate any Classic software for this task. I'd be thankful for any leads.

P.S. I am using Gretag Macbeth (now x-Rite) Eye-One Pro (i1Pro) spectrophotometer.
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Re: Display calibration / profiling in OS9
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2018, 12:32:27 AM »



Spent endless hours trying to track down a version of the i1Profiler that worked with OS 9 (tried every variation of url and datestamped resource on Wayback)

Contacted x-rite about it and it seems like they scrubbed the page. Cant find the actual page referencing it anymore.

Was never able to successfully download it, but here is the dead link, this is what you are looking for:

http://www.i1color.jp/file/OS9_and_RevD_measuring_unit.sit

Please let the community know if you find something.
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Re: Display calibration / profiling in OS9
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2018, 04:38:15 PM »

vectrex, what measurement device are you using?
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Re: Display calibration / profiling in OS9
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2018, 09:21:00 PM »

I've spent well over a week researching what profiling software was available for OS9 and here's what I've come up.
My research was concentrated solely on software for 'industry standart' i1Pro spectrophotometer.
I ignored anything that was ment for lesser devices - i.e. colorimeters, which might be dead/deteriorated by now anyway.


1. Monaco Systems - acquired by x-Rite, old software discontinued

http://web.archive.org/web/20040203230135/http://monacosys.com:80/

a) MonacoProof up to ver. 3.6 (scaled down MonacoProfiler, dongle c/p, limited functionality in demo mode)

http://www.usc.com.sg/MonacoPROOF.asp

b) MonacoProfiler up to ver. 4.5 (very powerful, dongle c/p, limited functionality in demo mode)

http://www.usc.com.sg/MonacoPROFILER.asp


2. Gretag Macbeth - acquired by x-Rite, old software discontinued

http://web.archive.org/web/20020604072708/http://i1color.com/

a) ProfileMaker up to ver. 4.1 (very powerful, dongle c/p, limited functionality in demo mode)

http://www.usc.com.sg/ProfileMaker4.1Pro.asp

b) Eye-One Match up to ver. 2.0.3 (full functionality depending on EEPROM activated options of i1Pro device)

c) Eye-One Match ver. 3.0.1 and 3.1 (!) (same as 2.03, display profiling only)

d) Eye-One Share up to ver. 1.4 (free, good for ambient and flash light measurement + other features. sluggish)

e) ColorLab up to v. 2.8.12 (free, experimental, very sloooooow)


3. basICColor - still active, but old software is not available for download

www.basiccolor.de

basICColor Display v. 3.0 (features and quality unknown, v. 5.x.x for OSX seems to be good)


4. Quato - makers of High-End Monitors and software, went belly-up in August 2013

http://web.archive.org/web/20100324042042/http://quato.de:80/english/software-display.php

Quato iColor Display v. 2.5, maybe 2.5.4

Software still downloadable from archive.org, but key number is needed to make it work. (Anyone?) ;)
Version 3.8.x for OSX is, in my opinion, very good. In fact, I like it better than basICColor and i1Profiler.

P.S. I have #2 b, c, d and e.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2018, 02:20:16 AM by ssp3 »
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Re: Display calibration / profiling in OS9
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2018, 11:43:13 PM »

wow, thanks for this info!

I am using an i1pro with OS X, but as i described, was unable to find the matching i1pro (beta?) os software for OS 9.

So you have the Gretag software working with the i1pro in os9?

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Re: Display calibration / profiling in OS9
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2018, 12:08:58 AM »

Yes, I do  :D
« Last Edit: December 24, 2018, 12:26:38 AM by ssp3 »
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Re: Display calibration / profiling in OS9
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2023, 10:40:35 PM »

Time for an update.
This is how some of the stuff looks in OS9. Including megabucks ProfileMaker  8)

And, correction to my post here:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,6582.msg49764.html#msg49764
ProfileMaker installers work in OS9 just fine. No need to extract anything in OSX.

I can't post the screenshots of Eye-One Match 2.0.3 and 3.0.1, since their installers require OS 9.1, but I'm on 9.0.4.
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Re: Display calibration / profiling in OS9
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2023, 01:03:28 AM »

thats amazing what did you buy/install?
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Re: Display calibration / profiling in OS9
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2023, 08:50:11 AM »

Time for some more screenshot porn.  ;D

Installed Eye-One Match 2.0.3 and 3.0.1 on my TiBook. These two applications are quite primitive compared to other 'heavy hitters', but they did the calibration job rather well.

As I mentioned in the post above, in OS9, version 3.0.1 supports display calibration only.
Version 2.0.3 supports displays, projectors, scanners and printers, but my particular i1Pro device only has licenses for display and printer.
Also, these two applications will only work in conjunction with spectrophotometers and colorimeters by X-Rite aka GretagMacbeth. Spyders and others are out.

And, as I have said before, displays on old PowerBooks are crap by today's standards. I could barely achieve brightness of 115 cd/m2 at maximum setting. But colors got better after calibration, that's for sure.
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Re: Display calibration / profiling in OS9
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2023, 09:54:32 AM »

And, as I have said before, displays on old PowerBooks are crap by today's standards. I could barely achieve brightness of 115 cd/m2 at maximum setting. But colors got better after calibration, that's for sure.

Actually some today displays are crap different ways..did you try calibrate with Eye-one 3.01?
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Re: Display calibration / profiling in OS9
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2023, 10:03:38 AM »

..did you try calibrate with Eye-one 3.01?

With both, actually. 3.0.1 - see the last screenshot.
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Re: Display calibration / profiling in OS9
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2023, 11:45:19 AM »

awesome to see this update and these results, ssp3!
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Re: Display calibration / profiling in OS9
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2023, 12:14:23 PM »

Tbh, I don't like what's going on in Red channel in the shadows.
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Re: Display calibration / profiling in OS9
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2023, 12:58:05 PM »

TiBooks are over 20 years old and their backlights are fluorescent. They are all very dim now.
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