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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2015, 12:23:28 AM »

Hallo  :D
Im a new member and trying to building a 888/24 system with protools TDM 5.1.3.
got Magma 13slot chassi, mixcore.mixfarm,psdcards and some cables.

A friend gave me a mac g3 white/blue tower 350mhz 256mb of ram.
Got no skills on macs so
My question is
fastest mac for the setup that works ?
Regards Robban
 

 
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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2015, 01:05:28 AM »

Fastest 'stock' OS9 Mac would be the MDD 1.25 and for PT the single processor model is recommended. The QS 933 is also highly regarded, as it's almost as powerful and quieter than MDD.
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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2015, 02:26:51 AM »

Hello 9DSP

I have a G4 (model M8570 EMC 1914) with firewire 800, 2 Go RAM, NVIDIA Ge Force 4600 Ti graphic card and a SSD 32 Go for the operating system and the softwares. I replaced the original processor (2*1,25Ghz) by a Sonnet Encore / MDX G4 Duet 2*1.8Ghz for Power Mac G4 MDD.
For Pro Tools, I have a Digidesign expansion chassis 13 slots with inside 1 Mix Core, 6 Mix Farms and 3 DSP Farms

It's the fastest rig for Pro Tools 5.1.3 TDM that you can have and it runs like a charm !

If you want this machine to run with Mac os 9.2.2 you have to :

1. For the firmware, the Sonnet cpu needs Boot Rom 4.4.8f2 or higher. On my machine, it's 4.5.7f1
2. Install Mac OS 9 for unsupported systems
3. You have to replace the Mac OS ROM 10.2.1 with Macintosh ROM 10.2.1v1 "Generic", you can find it here (with an extension called Insomnia):
https://www.thinkclassic.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4504#p4504
4. You have to replace the "Apple CPU Plug-ins" extension with this extension in:
System/System Folder/Extensions/Multiprocessing
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G4 (model M8570 EMC 1914) firewire 800
Sonnet Encore / MDX G4 Duet 2*1.8Ghz for Power Mac G4 MDD
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NVIDIA Ge Force 4600 Ti graphic card
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1 Mix Core, 6 Mix Farms and 3 DSP Farms

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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2015, 02:13:03 AM »

Thanks !
I try my 350mhz g3 first with the system  ;)
And try to get a hand on a cheap faster g4 singel  :)

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Building a old protools 888/24 system.
Magma pci 13slot expansion
2 dspcard
2 mixfarmcard
1 mixcorecard 
wait its more :-)
2x creamware pulsar card will be mounted in my magma chassi.
and protools 5.1.1.

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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2015, 01:07:33 AM »

the g3 system will obvious cap out much sooner then the above system detaled by unsonic which seems to be the best of the best u could ever have! and the 350 g3 system is probably about the worst/starting area that u would want to even try with ;) but still should work fine albeit without the same muscle

good luck u guys!
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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2015, 01:08:54 PM »

I will try to find a faster g4 with same spec  :)
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2x creamware pulsar card will be mounted in my magma chassi.
and protools 5.1.1.

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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2015, 02:13:01 PM »

I found a "MDD" Power Mac G4 dual 1.25ghz with 1mb ram/cpu for about 50dollar here in sweden :)
is there a way to overclock this machine ?
around 1.47ghz


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Building a old protools 888/24 system.
Magma pci 13slot expansion
2 dspcard
2 mixfarmcard
1 mixcorecard 
wait its more :-)
2x creamware pulsar card will be mounted in my magma chassi.
and protools 5.1.1.

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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2015, 06:13:11 PM »

Sounds like a good deal! Don't know anything about overclocking but as is should be a good machine for your PT rig! ;D
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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2015, 09:37:25 PM »

I found a "MDD" Power Mac G4 dual 1.25ghz with 1mb ram/cpu for about 50dollar here in sweden :)
is there a way to overclock this machine ?
around 1.47ghz

i would add some more ram and later worry about the cpu :D
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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2015, 08:19:49 AM »

I found a "MDD" Power Mac G4 dual 1.25ghz with 1mb ram/cpu for about 50dollar here in sweden :)
is there a way to overclock this machine ?
around 1.47ghz

This 1.25 Ghz modules can easily be overclocked up to 1.5 Ghz  *usually* . But the best option is the 1.33 Single ( with 2 Mb of L3 cache from xServe) overclocked to 1.5.

Do a forum search about those topics ...
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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2015, 09:42:41 AM »

1,5ghz sounds nice,  i will read more about it :D
More memory   :D
I buy working 2xG5 for 110 dollar yesterday
All slots are full of 256mb and 1gb ram :)
So i put in 1.25GB 333mhz ram in the G4.
And it works super.
The old gentlemen that sold me the G4, gave me 2x120GB 2,5" sata harddrives in a bag :)
Maby i only use 1 of the G5 and put more stuff in the G4

Thanks !   
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Building a old protools 888/24 system.
Magma pci 13slot expansion
2 dspcard
2 mixfarmcard
1 mixcorecard 
wait its more :-)
2x creamware pulsar card will be mounted in my magma chassi.
and protools 5.1.1.

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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2015, 11:06:06 AM »

You'll have to use the G4 for your 'old school' PT rig as the G5 won't run OS9/PT 5.1. ... also the SATA drives won't plug directly into the G4 as they use IDE.
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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2015, 10:53:14 AM »

See that now :)
mounted 4x 512mb= 2GB of ram.
And i have a hole box of old HD`s, so i
Going to install the 9.2.1 on a 80GB ide to start with   :)
 
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Totally retro
Building a old protools 888/24 system.
Magma pci 13slot expansion
2 dspcard
2 mixfarmcard
1 mixcorecard 
wait its more :-)
2x creamware pulsar card will be mounted in my magma chassi.
and protools 5.1.1.

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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2015, 01:04:14 PM »

9dsp: Where in Sweden are you? Im also in Sweden and have some stuff that might interest you :)
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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2015, 03:49:00 PM »

9dsp: Where in Sweden are you? Im also in Sweden and have some stuff that might interest you :)

im right around the corner what you got for me ? :)
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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2015, 02:10:45 AM »

Hallo Knezzen !

Send a PM to you  :D

yesterday I installed OSX and 4GB ram on my new G5, first 10.5.6 and then update to 10.5.8
first an SSD drive,, did not work  :o
so 2x230GB 3,5" sata is mounted.
G4:
the adaptec uw scsi interface stop the boot order :-(
i dont know how to install the card ?
it working on the G3 after flashing  :)

My G4 fans sounds 100% terrible so i must fix that.
The OS 9.2.2 works but i dont understand it  ::)
a lot of effort to get this masterpice of system
 to work when i  know zero of mac  :D
But when it all works i will be a very happy mac user   ;)
Have a nice sunday !


 




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Building a old protools 888/24 system.
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2 dspcard
2 mixfarmcard
1 mixcorecard 
wait its more :-)
2x creamware pulsar card will be mounted in my magma chassi.
and protools 5.1.1.

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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2015, 03:23:01 AM »

I have a couple of MIX cards, a Magma chassis, some Digidesign 882/20 and 888 (16bit) laying around that I don't use. I thought I would build myself another MIX system, but I find myself spending more time in Logic, so I wont need it.
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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2015, 11:48:48 PM »

anyone know if standard db60 crossover cables would work to connect a 1622 to a mix card???


https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/446350-protools-mix-digilink-cable-connectors-pinouts.html
« Last Edit: December 13, 2015, 02:22:56 AM by custos »
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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2016, 08:24:48 AM »

Madi/AES interface for Mix - Euphonix FC727



http://connect.euphonix.com/documents/FC_OpMan_FC727_r1_3.pdf

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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2016, 09:35:16 AM »

interesting box! ;D
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