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MIDI Interfaces connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« on: November 17, 2013, 08:22:32 AM »
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov99/articles/applenotes.htm

yamaha ux256 (2000)


http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov00/articles/yamahaux256.htm

motu midi timepiece AV USB (2000)


* uses standard 120v powerlead connection
http://web.archive.org/web/20040409083220/http://www.motu.com/english/hardware/mtpav_usb/body.html
mac manual: http://cdn-data.motu.com/manuals/midi/MIDI_Timepiece_AV_USB_User_Guide_Mac.pdf
win manual: http://cdn-data.motu.com/manuals/midi/MIDI_Timepiece_AV_USB_User_Guide_Win.pdf
motu usb midi devices require Mac OS 8.6 or later
networking: http://www.motu.com/techsupport/technotes/document.2000-01-28.4413716217
this device can be networked,daisychained,used in conjunction with other nonUSB "timepiece" units but not "express" units

emagic amt8 (usb / mac rs422 serial / pc rs232 serial)
DRIVERS HERE: http://web.archive.org/web/20020603152527/http://www.emagic.de/english/support/download/toolsmac.html
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan00/articles/emagicamt8.htm]http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan00/articles/emagicamt8.htm

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan00/articles/emagicamt8.htm

emagic unitor8 mk II (2001)


http://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/emagic-unitor-8-mkii-71462.jpg
http://www.digitalprosound.com/2001/06_jun/reviews/emagic1.htm
article: http://www.emusician.com/news/0766/emagic-unitor8-mkii/145026
DRIVERS HERE: http://web.archive.org/web/20020603152527/http://www.emagic.de/english/support/download/toolsmac.html
manual: http://www.advancedaudiorentals.com/docs/Unitor%208%20en.pdf

what are the differences between emagic midi interfaces?

Motu Midi Express XT USB (2000) 2nd version connects via usb/mac serial, note that the original version connects via mac serial/parallel, parallel pc support dropped


http://web.archive.org/web/20000816175723/http://www.motu.com/english/hardware/xpressxt_usb/body.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20000823150221/http://www.motu.com/english/hardware/xpressxt_usb/features.html
manual: http://cdn-data.motu.com/manuals/midi/MIDI_Timepiece_AV_USB_User_Guide_Mac.pdf
motu usb midi devices require Mac OS 8.6 or later


Motu Midi Express XT USB (2011 2nd USB version re release)


motu midi express 128 (june 2003)


8in 9 out 128 channels
Compatibility - Mac OS9, Mac OS X and Windows Me/2000/XP
USB-Bus-powered from USB connection. No additional power necessary.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030628145524/http://motu.com/english/hardware/128/body.html

emagic mt4 (2000)

DRIVERS HERE: http://web.archive.org/web/20020603152527/http://www.emagic.de/english/support/download/toolsmac.html
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct00/articles/emagic.htm]http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct00/articles/emagic.htm
Motu Fastlane USB (1999)

originally made to match the fruity imacs: http://web.archive.org/web/20000302053500/http://www.motu.com/english/hardware/fastlane_usb/index.html
http://cdn-data.motu.com/manuals/midi/FastLane-USB_User_Guide_Mac.pdf
http://www.motu.com/products/midi/fastlane_usb

motu micro express USB (2000)


4 independent MIDI IN
6 independent MIDI OUT (9 actual MIDI OUT ports)
96 MIDI channels
http://web.archive.org/web/20000816175726/http://www.motu.com/english/hardware/micro_usb/body.html
manual: http://cdn-data.motu.com/manuals/midi/MOTU_USB_MIDI_Manual.pdf

motu micro lite (2003)

5 in 5 out
http://web.archive.org/web/20030622034757/http://motu.com/english/hardware/lite/body.html
manual: http://cdn-data.motu.com/manuals/midi/MOTU_USB_MIDI_Manual.pdf

roland um-550 (2002)


roland um-880 (2002)


http://www.roland.com/products/en/UM-880/]http://www.roland.com/products/en/UM-880/
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug02/articles/edirolum880.asp

digidesign midi i/o (2002)

http://archive.digidesign.com/download/midiio/
http://akarchive.digidesign.com/support/docs/MIDI%20IO%20Guide.pdf

steinberg midex 3 (2001)

more info : http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar02/articles/steinbergmidex.asp
ftp://ftp.steinberg.net/Archives/Hardware/Midex_3/Mac/

roland um-1 (2000)


roland um-1s (2000)


roland um-2 (usb) (1999)
http://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/roland-um-2-54388.jpg


roland um-2ex (2005)


roland um-3ex (2005)

driver: http://www.rolandus.com/support/eula/UM_3EX_Mac_OS_9.zip

roland um-4 (1999)


Steinberg Midex 8 (2001)

article: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may01/articles/steinbergmidex8.asp
driver: ftp://ftp.steinberg.net/Archives/Hardware/Midex_8/Mac/
manual: ftp://ftp.steinberg.net/Archives/Hardware/Midex_8/Midex8OperationManual.pdf

roland super mpu64 (usb)




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motu midi devices supported by os 9
miti timepiece AV (usb/serial) 8ch
miti timepiece AV (serial/parallel) 8ch
micro express (usb/serial) 4/6ch
micro express (serial/parallel) 4/6ch
pocket express (serial/parallel) 2/4ch
fastlane (usb) 2ch
fastlane (serial) 1/3ch
midi express xt (usb/serial) 8ch
midi express xt (serial/parallel) 8ch
micro lite (usb) 5/5ch

Opcode midiport 96 (2000)

http://web.archive.org/web/20000914191329/http://www.opcode.com/products/midiport96/photo.shtml

Opcode Midiport 32 (2000)


connects via usb | 2 in 2 out usb midi device, powered by usb (i think)
http://web.archive.org/web/20000817003358/http://www.opcode.com/products/midiport32/
http://www.sonosphere.com/Doug/Archives/2002/12/04/opcodeMIDIPortDrivers
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Opcode-Systems-MidiPort-32-USB-Midi-Interface-Lot-of-6-/181293612306?pt=US_Computer_Recording_Interfaces&hash=item2a35f0fd12
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Opcode Systems, a division of Gibson, released it's MIDIport 32 USB MIDI interface for both Macintosh and Windows. Opcode's USB MIDI interfaces correctly handle the "random reboot" problem that can occur when multiple USB MIDI devices are used simultaneously. Without this Opcode-designed feature, USB devices may unpredictably reconfigure after the computer restarts, causing attached MIDI peripherals to move or disappear. Opcode's unique solution consistently tracks each USB MIDI interface and all related MIDI connections boot after boot, Mac or Windows. The MIDIport 32 is a robust MIDI interface for iMacs, blue G3 Macintoshes and USB-equipped Windows 98 PCs. And Newer Driver's are available online.

"Opcode invested significant engineering resources to tame USB and provide a complete MIDI solution for computer musicians." said Tom Sherman, Opcode's VP of Engineering. "The MIDIport 32 has been specially engineered, taking advantage of USB's high-speed connection to provide professional-quality MIDI timing. In addition, MIDIport 32 makes installation on Windows truly simple -- no IRQs, DMAs or I/O addresses -- plug it in and it works."

MIDIport 32 connects any MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface) device, such as a synthesizer or drum machine, to a computer, allowing recording and playback with music software. Multiple MIDIport interfaces can be used on a single computer. MIDIport 32 has 2 MIDI ins and outs for 32 MIDI channels. It includes status LEDs for MIDI activity and is powered over USB requiring no external power supply. The package includes a six-foot USB cable and a CDROM of software drivers. The MIDIport 32 works with any OMS compatible Macintosh application such as Opcode's Studio Vision Pro, Vision DSP(tm)and MAX(tm) or Digidesign's Pro Tools(tm) software, and any Windows 98 compatible music software such as Opcode's Musicshop.

"This is Opcode's fourth USB product release in four months," commented Sherman. "Our experience in USB audio and MIDI is unparalleled in the industry and the result is another top quality USB product." Opcode recently released three USB audio interfaces: DATport, SONICport and SONICport Optical. Opcode has also announced a rackmount line of USB MIDI interfaces including the MIDIport 64(tm), MIDIport 12(tm) and STUDIOport(tm), a hybrid MIDI and audio interface. The US Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price of the MIDIport 32 is $149.95.


http://web.archive.org/web/20030622033324/http://motu.com/english/hardware/128/body.html
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1994_articles/mar94/motuexpress.html]http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1994_articles/mar94/motuexpress.html
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov99/articles/applenotes.htm

yamaha ux-16

http://www.ebay.ca/sch/?_nkw=yamaha%20ux-16&clk_rvr_id=557844173809&mfe=search
theres surprisingly alot of these on ebay but all of them are around 50-55 dollars at least. too pricey
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Re: os9 Compatible Midi Interfaces (without audio capabilities)
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2013, 08:30:02 AM »
hi Knez; great to see someone else making contribution of info;) glad to see you..

re: your posts.
do you personally have any of those specific revisions of the midisports? because from the research ive done ive been informed that those models do not work.. the drivers for the midisport will only work with the first revisions of these items, (the blue+green looking ones and for the 1x1 the one with the clear/white plastic top) similar rules apply to the m-audio uno usb where they created newer versions that are not compatible with os9
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Re: os9 Compatible Midi Interfaces (without audio capabilities)
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2013, 01:08:47 PM »
I personally have the silver (like the 8x8 in the picture) version of the 4x4 and it works great on my MDD running 9.2.2. A friend of mine has the green 2x2 one and it works for him on his MDD.

That's all I can confirm :)

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Re: os9 Compatible Midi Interfaces (without audio capabilities)
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2013, 01:10:51 PM »
I personally have the silver (like the 8x8 in the picture) version of the 4x4 and it works great on my MDD running 9.2.2. A friend of mine has the green 2x2 one and it works for him on his MDD.

That's all I can confirm :)

yeah i think theres possibly some issues with the anniversary edition ones, i would consider them to be osx+ only due to what ive read untill i can get a confirmation from someone else! the silver ones maybe are a revision 2 and perhaps the anniv were a 3rd revision....? i know that for sure with the uno cables there was 3 revisions 1 + 2 being ok, and 3 not..

refer to this thread:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=163.msg334#msg334
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Re: os9 Compatible Midi Interfaces (without audio capabilities)
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2013, 02:02:26 PM »
I see. But as I wrote, I can confirm that the new Green/Black "anniversery" 2x2 interface works on OS9.
My friend uses this with his MDD without any problems at all.

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Re: os9 Compatible Midi Interfaces (without audio capabilities)
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2013, 03:50:58 PM »
I see. But as I wrote, I can confirm that the new Green/Black "anniversery" 2x2 interface works on OS9.
My friend uses this with his MDD without any problems at all.

ok good to know!!!! i thought u meant the green/blue 2x2 older model!
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Re: os9 Compatible USB Midi Interfaces
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2013, 11:37:27 AM »

I would like to add the Yamaha UX96. With TO TG/INST port for direct connection to any keyboard or tone module equipped with a TO HOST serial port. (E.g. Roland JV1010, Korg 05R/W, Korg PA80 etc.)
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Re: os9 Compatible MIDI Interfaces connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2013, 04:53:03 PM »


just realized that these devices can be daisy chained AND 19" rackmounted!! sitll using 1 usb port and each 2+3 port (not 1) is switchable to be a thru port (i thinki with source coming from the 1) and they have drivers all the way up to osx mavericks and i think roland edirol will continue driver support in the future!

http://www.futurestyle.org/archives/e/edirol-UMex-usb.htm
another page with more info in the edirol roland product line of lite usb interfaces




http://lib.roland.co.jp/products/en/brochures/res/62223158/4367_EDIROLguide_72.pdf
brochure
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Re: os9 Compatible MIDI Interfaces connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2014, 03:09:46 AM »
Hi!

 +1 device: Roland UM1-EX  working fine in os9.2.2 (Not found on the list)

 Official driver here:
http://www.roland.com/support/article/?q=downloads&p=UM-1EX

Regards,
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I add to this list the Steinberg USB2MIDI, which is basically a MIDIsport 2x2 in a different case — and in fact it can use the MIDIsport 2x2's drivers (both for OS 9 and OS X).

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Re: MIDI Interfaces connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2015, 11:04:46 PM »
Roland / Edirol UM-2



Drivers/Support: http://roland.com/support/article/?q=downloads&p=UM-2
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Re: MIDI Interfaces connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2015, 09:20:41 PM »
Midisport 2x2 USB (green and blue) works here.


I needed to mess around a bit with OMS - but works now.
If you need drivers - pm me.

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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2015, 07:46:06 PM »
drivers for the evolution mk225c
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/evolution-music-creator-v3-drivers
thanks to cyberish

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Re: MIDI Interfaces connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2015, 10:54:47 AM »
I have the Midisport 8x8.  It is great since there are drivers that span from OS9 using OMS (USB on a G3) up until my current OSX 10.8.5.  I never was able to get the serial port to work under OS9 or 8.6.
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Re: MIDI Interfaces connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2016, 10:43:32 AM »
Hi everyone,

I'm using a G4 Sawtooth with OS9 + Digital Performer 3.  I was interested in getting one of these

http://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/arturia-beatstep

It appears to be a cost effective CV/Gate, but it has no hardware MIDI IN.. and relies on USB to be a proper In/Out device..  I never gave this another thought with the Amiga 1200 because it has no USB but my G4 does.

I'm not sure how universal the OS9 usb drivers are.  Obviously these days with OSX and Windows most devices can work without having to deal with custom drivers, but we're talking about OS9 and I haven't had to hook up many devices to my system so far. 

Thanks,
Caleb

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Re: MIDI Interfaces connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2016, 06:02:41 PM »
This looks like a long shot - a really long shot. I seriously doubt this will work properly…BUT, you never know…

There is no OS9 "MIDI over USB" driver. The standard class compliant protocols that exist today and are incorporated into your modern Macbook, iPad etc. did not exist back then. You are entirely dependent therefore, on FreeMIDI (since you're using DP) to recognize and communicate with the Beatstep over USB. The Mac USB Device Driver will "see" the Beatstep. It won't know what it is but it will probably pass data to it from DP if FreeMIDI recognizes the Beatstep as a MIDI device.

Without class compliant stuff in place, you're biggest worries are:
1. Will FreeMIDI even "see" this thing to begin with? And
2. Timing. Playing a sequence out from DP through the Beatstep to use its CV gates will be a breath-holding, fingers-crossed procedure.

The Beatstep is a modern device that is reliant on modern protocols to work - as I said, a long shot.

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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2016, 06:08:49 PM »
Thanks for confirming that.  I figured as much, but was hoping maybe something about midi-usb devices ran deeper.. but I realize that midi-usb was a big revolution in later generation hardware along with other OS advancements.. 

Thanks!
Caleb

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Re: os9 Compatible MIDI Interfaces connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2016, 04:49:33 AM »
Hi!

 +1 device: Roland UM1-EX  working fine in os9.2.2 (Not found on the list)

 Official driver here:
http://www.roland.com/support/article/?q=downloads&p=UM-1EX

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Laszlo

In my mac os 9 do not installs drivers...(((
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Re: MIDI Interfaces connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2016, 08:36:27 AM »
if you are lucky, the beatstep might work halfway with some other driver by accident.

but otherwise no devoce driver = no OS9 support.

you will find similar devices from akai, edirol, m-audio... for OS9, unfortunately second hand prices are higher than getting a modern one new.
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Re: MIDI Interfaces connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2016, 08:43:34 AM »
interesting i'll keep that in mind.   i don't trust the need of the beatstep to work though.. feels too unique to be worth chancing it..  but i may still get one though if one comes along cheap enough again..  i don't have any CV reliant stuff other than experimenting with expression values like modulation and such on some effects.. ones that support expression pedals..  that are otherwise non-midi devices

Thanks!
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Re: MIDI Interfaces connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2017, 12:09:56 PM »
Drivers for the Motu FastLane can be found here:
http://www.motu.com/download/download_matching_downloads.html?product_id=16
OS 9 driver is the one titles 'FreeMIDI 1.48/USB MIDI Installer'