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[supernova777]

mactron had tried to flash a dual DVI quadra 900 XGL with the geforce 4 ti 4600 rom on macelite
this was unsuccessful to make the card work in a mac

there is however a mac rom on macelite for the quadra 700 XGL
and there are a number of these cards available for very little money

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=Quadro%204%20700%20XGL&clk_rvr_id=816048287332&mfe=search

this card is very similar in core clock to the ti 4600
and also in design (ports, capactors, layout)

http://www.gpureview.com/Quadro4-700-XGL-card-489.html

we do not know however if this card would work in mac os 9 the way that the asus 8460 has been proven to (by diehard)

but there is a rom specific to this card posted
http://themacelite.wikidot.com/wikidownloads2
http://campahunta.free.fr/Downloads/ROMs/nv_hack_Quadro4_700XGL.rom.zip

[supernova777]

compare the above card with the 8460

[MacTron]

mactron had tried to flash a dual DVI quadra 900 XGL with the geforce 4 ti 4600 rom on macelite
this was unsuccessful to make the card work in a mac

... and the worst thing was that I failed to make a custom ROM for the Quadro 900 following the MacElite instructions due lack of data 

[supernova777]

question is.. whether or not to try again with a 700 xgl?    im sure u really wanted dual DVI.. as would i.

[MacTron]

question is.. whether or not to try again with a 700 xgl?    im sure u really wanted dual DVI.. as would i.

I want dual digital output, DVI + ADC or better yet: DVI + DVI. So the only solutions are the original Ti 4600 Mac Edition or this Quadro 900.
... well may be there are some from MSI and Gainward, but:

... but may be those are really Geforce4 Ti 4800:  the AGP8X version of the Geforce4 Ti whith the GPU NV28. Here we have to be carefull, as the AGP8X cards need hardware modifications and the NV28 may be not compatible with Mac Os 9 nVidia drivers

[supernova777]

i think the gainward ti4600 is agp 4x

i think this card was originally called "Gainward GeForce4 Ultra/750XP"

look at the agp connectors

heres one by "suma" ? i never saw before


easy enuff to look at the gpu chip the 4800 says 8x right on it


honestly i think the quadra part of the card is what made u have a difficulty
if u get a normal ti 4600 powered non-qudra card i think u would have a beter chance at success
or this 700 xgl which has a specific mod for it.. but we dont know if this mod supports os9
probably not... the asus 8460 is the only one that had a success in os9 because the drivers explicitly support this gpu
it cant be that the asus is such a special case.. these other brand ti4600 cards have a good chance to be as easy
as the 8460, moreso with the cards that are dvi/vga but i think there is a chance to find one that will work with dual dvi

click to take a look;)

[MacTron]

honestly i think the quadra part of the card is what made u have a difficulty

Yeah, I think so.
That's what I have found underneath the Quadro 900 heatsink:

[macStuff]

http://themacelite.wikidot.com/wikidownloads2
there is now a 700 XGL rom here for download
does anyone have a 700 xgl card to test this with???

i believe the 700 XGL is the same specs as a geforce 4 ti4200?
PC Quadro 4 700 XGL (Arti) ³   Quadro 4 700 XGL   1105   AGP 2x/4x   300/325 MHz   64MB BGA DDR   64KB

[MacOS Plus]

http://themacelite.wikidot.com/wikidownloads2
there is now a 700 XGL rom here for download
does anyone have a 700 xgl card to test this with???

i believe the 700 XGL is the same specs as a geforce 4 ti4200?
PC Quadro 4 700 XGL (Arti) ³   Quadro 4 700 XGL   1105   AGP 2x/4x   300/325 MHz   64MB BGA DDR   64KB

  I noted in their section on hacking OS X support for Nvidia that the ROM for the Quadro4 700 XGL is apparently supposed to work in OS 9.  It was cool that the OS X hacking instructions example was specifically for this model.  What I'd really like to see is a ROM for the 900 XGL because it is dual-DVI.

[macStuff]

it probably doesnt exist because this "Arti" guy never got his hands on one
the ones there are roms for are probably just because he happened to get one

*shrug*

too bad theres no contact info for him

[macStuff]

http://themacelite.wikidot.com/kext-mod
i believe this is the page that mac os plus was making reference to above

[MacOS Plus]

http://themacelite.wikidot.com/kext-mod
i believe this is the page that mac os plus was making reference to above

That is correct.

[macStuff]

700XGL(NV25GL) == Ti4400(4x)(64mb ram) http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=136&card2=489
750XGL(NV25GL) == Ti4400(4x)(128mb ram) http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=136&card2=486


both of these cards use the same GPU.. and are 4x AGP
the only difference is the ram?
so if theres a rom that works for the 700XGL then certainly that can be edited by the proper skilled individual to support the 750XGL aswell.. (too bad theres no Dual DVI 750 XGL!)

the mystery then would be the 900XGL
because its a then a hop skip + jump from the 750XGL

http://www.nvidia.ca/page/quadro4xgl.html

is there no way that the 8x cards can be made to downgrade to 4x?
obviously they are a bigger pain in the ass because of the ADC/AGP conflict of pins

all i want is a dual DVI AGP card that works properly in os9!!!!

the 900XGL + 980XGL + GAINWARD ti4600 were my biggest hopes for this!



i think there is still room for this to be fixed..
i think that the reason the 700XGL works.. vs the 750 + 900XGL not working.. i think there is still possibility of someone getting these cards working.. if the right someone chooses to take on the task that is

[macStuff]

mactron had tried to flash a dual DVI quadra 900 XGL with the geforce 4 ti 4600 rom on macelite
this was unsuccessful to make the card work in a mac

... and the worst thing was that I failed to make a custom ROM for the Quadro 900 following the MacElite instructions due lack of data 

maybe this can be worked on again by someone?
would u be willing to ship these "Dead" cards to someone that can attempt to get them working on mac os9 ?
if not maybe if the community comes together to each contribute 20$ or something to the cause; we could
a) find someone who wishes to take this task on
b) supply them with the cards to test with + perfect the hack
c) all of us Profit ! by being able to acheive dual dvi cards that are properly 2d accellerated

[MacTron]

maybe this can be worked on again by someone?
would u be willing to ship these "Dead" cards to someone that can attempt to get them working on mac os9 ?
if not maybe if the community comes together to each contribute 20$ or something to the cause; we could
a) find someone who wishes to take this task on
b) supply them with the cards to test with + perfect the hack
c) all of us Profit ! by being able to acheive dual dvi cards that are properly 2d accellerated

I have no time to continue with this work and following the guidelines suplied by darthnVader here:

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,681.msg29300.html#msg29300

So I can donate for free those cards to someone who wish to continue with this work. 
 It will be a great benefit for all the community to have a Mac Os 9 compatible and accellerated ROM for this high speed dual DVI cards.

[darthnVader]

maybe this can be worked on again by someone?
would u be willing to ship these "Dead" cards to someone that can attempt to get them working on mac os9 ?
if not maybe if the community comes together to each contribute 20$ or something to the cause; we could
a) find someone who wishes to take this task on
b) supply them with the cards to test with + perfect the hack
c) all of us Profit ! by being able to acheive dual dvi cards that are properly 2d accellerated

I have no time to continue with this work and following the guidelines suplied by darthnVader here:

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,681.msg29300.html#msg29300

So I can donate for free those cards to someone who wish to continue with this work. 
 It will be a great benefit for all the community to have a Mac Os 9 compatible and accellerated ROM for this high speed dual DVI cards.

If you want to send me the card, I'll work on it, and send it back if I can get it working again. Hopefully with a Mac ROM for dual DVI on it.

PM me.

[MacTron]

If you want to send me the card, I'll work on it, and send it back if I can get it working again. Hopefully with a Mac ROM for dual DVI on it.

PM me.

MSG sent.

Keep us informed and thanks for your work. 

[MacTron]

Quadro4 900 XGL and GainwardTi4600 PC ROMs (attached)

[JacintoC]

More power to you if you can get it to work, darthnVader. They're notoriously hard to revive when this happens, from what I've heard at least. I'd certainly like to know how you did it if you succeed.

[darthnVader]

More power to you if you can get it to work, darthnVader. They're notoriously hard to revive when this happens, from what I've heard at least. I'd certainly like to know how you did it if you succeed.

I've done it a few times, where the computer won't even boot( Mac or PC ), with the card installed.

Normally, I just, very carefully lift the ground pin of the EEPROM, and solder two wires to it. Boot with the circuit open, then close the circuit, and run nvflash.