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Digital Performer 1.41Y
« on: December 26, 2014, 01:41:20 PM »

Here is what I could gather about Digital Performer 1.41Y, the version that was specifically made to work with Yamaha's CBX-D5/D3.

For some reason that I don't yet understand, I was not able to do ShrinkWrap images, so the contents of each install disk were copied into folders corresponding to each disk in the "Install Disks" folder. Please note that all the authorizations on the the "master" diskette were depleted. I have put there a folder called "invisibles" that contain four, well, invisible files... if they make it. they were used, I guess, for the authorizations, maybe.

Other stuff in this package is a copy of an installed DP 1.41Y (called appropriately "Digital Performer™ 1.41Y").
Note that this version of DP was meant to work on Mac OS 6.03 up to OS 7.5.5. If you open it in OS9.2, it will crash on you. It lacks, of course, an authorization. The other files are adjuncts to the istall, such as the Help file, the FX editor, demo files, etc..

Also included is the "MixDownCBX-D5_Demo.sea", which is a MAX 3 standalone application to control the routing and effect parameters of the CBX-D5. Probably the most interesting thing of the lot, that would be really great to have unlocked.

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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2014, 04:55:24 PM »

unlocking a max app should not be a problem. who is or was the copyright owner?
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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2014, 05:00:33 PM »

wow, it is 19 years old :)
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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2014, 05:13:44 PM »

120 audollars – and he made it with an unlicenced max runtime.

he didnt even care to strip the exposing resources off:


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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2014, 05:22:27 PM »

please test this:
SN#: 10222
 
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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2014, 05:53:27 PM »

no idea what the SN is doing. i now see what the difference to the full version is, but it keeps chrashing when i try this section.
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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2014, 06:05:39 PM »

ok it is just chrashing from buggy code.

i found it out ... the effects and eq sysex output code is simply missing in the demo.

if you had a manual of the hardware with midi implementation overview ... on the yamaha site these pages seem to be missing in the manual.



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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2014, 06:21:44 PM »

120 audollars – and he made it with an unlicenced max runtime.

he didnt even care to strip the exposing resources off:

This was distributed as a demo on the Opcode FTP site around 1997-1998, so it was probably made with official cooperation and no need to hide it.
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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2014, 07:44:09 AM »

I still do have the CBX-D5 manuals somewhere. I'll try to dig them up and find the info.

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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2014, 08:09:11 AM »

Well, I have looked in the printed manual I have, and it's the same info that on the pdf you pointed, save for the "add 2" and "add 32" pages. I could scan these pages if you need them, but I believe all the info needed is in the available manual...

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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2014, 08:13:13 AM »

a little bit of info/comment on the DP 1.41Y and CBX combo...

http://lists.cloudfactory.org/pipermail/motu-mac/2001-July/043891.html

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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2014, 08:24:17 AM »

OK. MIDI implementation. Here we go...

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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2014, 08:35:29 AM »

OK. the other missing page: block diagram.

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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2014, 09:12:17 AM »

OK. MIDI implementation. Here we go...

hm, that does not tell us anything about the sysex part.
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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2014, 10:56:15 AM »

Isn't that exposed in page Add-30 and the extensive appendix section, particularly Add24 to Add-31??
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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2014, 11:04:44 AM »

ah there it is. but it is very difficult to read ... can you tell what paramters are mising and how they look like? two per EQ and how many per effect, and what is the proper string for the dump for each of them?
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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2014, 12:33:02 PM »

not sure if I can be of much help: I never programmed any Sysex, just have a vague notion...

as far as I can tell, all the tables in the appendix section are complete and conform to the printed manual I have.
A description of the sysex parameter dump format is at top of Add-30 page. EQ parameters are decribed at bottom of page Add-27 (IIR 1 to 4). There are four EQ parameters, named in the box on the right-side of same page. The variables for these EQ parameters are detailed in page Add-25 (*9;*10;*11;*12). There are up to 14 parameters per effect, an overview of those on pages Add-3 & Add-4. Then it is detailed for each effect in the following pages Add-8 to Add-23.

I do admit it takes a while to find your way within all those tables :P
You really have to read the whole appendix thing to get a grasp of what's going on...

hope this helps,

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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2014, 05:55:36 PM »

as i dont have the hardware, programming for it will become a blind flight. do you maybe have max installed? then i could guide you through it.
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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2014, 06:46:54 PM »

Uh...
I do have MAX 3.5.8 installed on my audio computer (DA G4 running 9.2.2). I never used it though... not very familiar with that.

Should not be too hard to setup the CBX-D5 on this computer.

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Re: Digital Performer 1.41Y
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2014, 07:43:53 AM »

So I guess the goal here is to crack open that mixdown application and spill its guts so we can modify and complete the missing bits.
Can we do that with MAX?  How?

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