antares infinity

[supernova777]

http://web.archive.org/web/20020604085019/http://www.antarestech.com/products/infinity.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20051124114619/http://www.antarestech.com/products/infinity.shtml
by http://web.archive.org/web/20020329092350/http://antarestech.com/







Infinity DSP Sample Looping Tools

Buy ItImagine taking a raw sample, and then, with just a few mouse clicks, creating a loop so perfect that you can't tell when it started or where it repeats. Imagine doing that with sounds that are impossible to loop smoothly using your current sample editor, like string orchestras, choirs, fat analog synths, chorused guitars, and so on. Infinity lets you do that, quickly and easily.

Infinity is a powerful Macintosh-based DSP tool kit designed to be used in conjunction with your current sample editor. It uses unique DSP technologies to automate and improve the looping process, taking sample editing to a new level of quality, speed, and simplicity.

Infinity allows you to loop everything from solo woodwinds to huge synth stacks with dramatic improvements in quality and speed. This means that you don't have to put up with rhythmic pulsing or lifeless sustains any longer. Infinity preserves the "liveness" of your samples because it has a looping tool appropriate for every type of sound.

Using Infinity's unique DSP technologies, beginners can get results which are superior to professionals using normal sample editors. For professionals, Infinity provides a level of quality, speed, and simplicity far beyond what's possible with conventional sample editing tools. For looping sound, nothing on earth can equal Infinity.
FEATURES

Real Time Loop Adjust lets you move the loop points during real-time playback, allowing you to locate the best loop points by ear.

The SPR Looper automatically creates seamless loops in chorused and ensemble sounds while preserving the exact sound color and stereo image of your sample. The resulting loop data can be automatically merged with the attack portion of your sample.

The Synthesis Looper allows you to control the frequency domain sidelobe energy of the loop, and selectively smooth out lumpy sounding frequencies in chorused and ensemble sounds. The new sound is more stable and loop repetitions are less noticeable.

 

The Rotated Sums Looper allows you to randomly layer multiple copies of the loop data to "homogenize" the sound while preserving your original loop points. Perfect for improving those problem loops on CD-ROMs and for special effects.

The Freeze Looper creates perfect loops in sounds like winds, brass, and other solo sounds that have a clear harmonic series.

The Crossfade Looper with Smart Auto-Scan is an enhanced crossfade tool with an intelligent loop point scanner that lets you find the best loop point automatically.

New in Version 3.18:

Full support for 24 bit files

Support for 88.2 kHz and 96 kHz playback via the Sound Manager

Full 32 bit floating point audio processing

Unlimited Undo/Redo nesting

Support for the AIFC file format
SPECIFICATIONS

Infinity requires Mac OS 9.x. Infinity is compatible with any Macintosh Sound Manager compatible hardware. Infinity reads and writes stereo and mono sound files in Sound Designer, AIFF, and AIFC file formats.

Sample Editing Tools

Edit functions: Cut, Copy, Paste, Clear Unselected, Clear, Mix, Invert, Reverse, Silence, Create/Delete Loop Points, Select Loop Points, Select All, Set MIDI Note, Auto Zero, Show Clipboard

Special Edit functions: Real Time Loop Adjust, Variable Edit Blend Time and Taper, Switchable Window Modes, Enable/Disable Clipboard, Enable/Disable Undo

[supernova777]

demo can be downloaded from http://web.archive.org/web/20051124153813/http://www.antarestech.com/download/update.shtml

(bottom of the page!!)

and a previous version (v2.56) at
http://web.archive.org/web/20060212014040/http://www.antarestech.com/download/update2.shtml

[supernova777]

http://web.archive.org/web/20060108175322/http://www352.pair.com/anttech/downloads/Infinity_v3.18_manual.pdf

pdf manual here

[supernova777]

atch

[supernova777]

i think this applications 'seamless looping' technology is responsible for countless late 90s hits
such as the entire Bob Sinclar "paradise" album
alot of them feature these unending disco atmospheric loops
like featured in this:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1ym4SrpLG8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1ym4SrpLG8</a>
http://www.discogs.com/Bob-Sinclar-Paradise/master/49622

and the atmospheric backing of this:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIp3QxBuozU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIp3QxBuozU</a>
http://www.discogs.com/Discowboys-On-A-Houseride/release/59359


any house head fan who was around during those years would instantly recognize these tunes
some of you people who arent into this type of music probably will not

but im sure there are other examples of antares infinity's application in other forms of music
if u have any suspect please post!

does anyone know if antares infinity v1.0 was released in 1998?
the info from 2000-2001-2002
starts at v2 v3

[reubenfinger]

Hello folks, I have tried downloading Infinity from the links above but after installation I am told that "Required Software Extensions need to be updated" and it transfers me to a dead PACE site link, any Ideas how to make this work?

Thanks in advance

[Protools5LEGuy]

... after installation I am told that "Required Software Extensions need to be updated" and it transfers me to a dead PACE site link

Did you tried to install PACE drivers?

http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=272946

I had the same problem myself! it kept directing me to this site right?
http://www.paceap.com/support/support.html
I bought Pro Tools 7 LE a few years back and after switching from a PC to a MAC wanted to install it there and encountered the same issue.
It was driving me mad until i realised that at the bottom of the page it states..

"*Note that as of April 16, 2007, we no longer support Mac OS 9. If this installer does not work for you, please contact the software publisher that provided you with the protected software."

So i went to the Avid site and filled in my setup details in the support area (found at this link) http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/self...mmunity15=1409
and got linked to a firmware update, all works fine now.
Hope this helped!

http://archive.digidesign.com/download/avid/

Pace Interlok Drivers
Pace InterLok driver updates for some Plug-In copy protection used on the following systems:

    Avid Symphony on Windows NT. Fixes "Drive inaccessable. Media may have changed" errors when working with removable iomega Jaz and Zip media after installing Digidesign Audiosuite Plug-Ins.

Other Mac and Windows users with iLok authorized plug-ins may also need to update to the most current version of the iLok drivers for their operating system.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/367669-need-old-pace-ilok-drivers.html

Pace's driver should work fine, they even have an OS9 driver
PACE Anti-Piracy -- Download -- Drivers

https://www.paceap.com/dldrvr.html This send you to a Oops! page with a "Legacy Installer" link. For me https://www.paceap.com/support.html;jsessionid=77f0414baafc4fcb04eb44461ecb but it could change. (Session id¿?)

I guess the "Tiger and below" option should have an OS9 part, but it is a DMG... YMMV

[IIO]

it seems that his problem is that on both original locations, paceap.com and ilok.com, the driver support for any system below OSX 10.5 is gone.

[Protools5LEGuy]

I never needed to install anything PACE related on OS9 to work with PT 5LE 5.1.1 aside the CD (On OSX and W.XP yes).

Maybe PT force install a primitive PACE extensions... Or I always used cracked plugs...I have to check it.

I have Autotune 3 RTAS or AudioSuite and it never asked. Same for MicModeler.

Later added http://web.archive.org/web/20020605062342/http://ilok.com/main.html but can't get OS9 files.

[IIO]

infinity is very old, that is probably why it tries to download them off the internet.

when i think about it, i also dont know about any other product which would do this.

[IIO]

he basically has to find a micmod demo installer or something, this will install all you need.

[IIO]

here is latest pace driver
http://www.motu.com/download/download_matching_downloads.html?platform_id=1&product_id=3

[Protools5LEGuy]

here is latest pace driver

MOTU supports more than AVID... XD

[IIO]

not really. when you bought protools HD you had the interlok installer on the CD.

but now, here in the future, we can host it. for the next generation.

[reubenfinger]

Firstly, thank you for all for your help and positive suggestions, however,

I am sure I am at fault, I downloaded the machfive and the interclock  updates and it wouldn't play ball, however, I didn't download all of them, so I will try again later when I am back on my machine....

But principally I just wanted to thank y'all for the Help and for pointing me in the right direction.

Do I need to have ilok in order to use this program?

[supernova777]

Do I need to have ilok in order to use this program?

the demo? should have some type of trial period where the app shoudl be usable.. but being that it requires ilok for long term use, it may require interlok drivers be installed and maybe even a physical usb ilok in a usb port for the trial to work.
i havent installed it or tried it yet myself! so im afraid thats all i can offer!

the only other thing i can think of is maybe the demo has a finite (no pun intended)  hard coded date that the demo is no longer usable.. ie: may require setting back your system date/time. but this is just speculation on my part!

[IIO]

Do I need to have ilok in order to use this program?

it is most likely that all demo versions require the driver software. if they would not, the implementation of this particular copy protection scheme would be rendered to a useless state. they did that later with the ilok hardware key, too. many people still prefer the hardware dongle, there was too much hassle with the old style methods.

[reubenfinger]

I have downloaded a the drivers from the motu page and installed all of them, aswell as the interlok package (which appears to install so fast that it is hard to see if it is installing anything at all)

I then set the system clock to 1990 as per Chris's suggestion, nothing works it automaticaly brings up the driver dialog.....so then as you say it must be a question of having the hardware dongle, even for the demo.

Thank you all very much for your help nonetheless

[supernova777]

u dont have an ilok?
u can buy a new empty ilok for like 49.99
most people have them from getting it with a software or hardware package that comes with 1..
i have like 3 of them (not including my emagic ones)

im guessing it somehow records the start date of the trial onto it?

[IIO]

so then as you say it must be a question of having the hardware dongle, even for the demo.

the pace drivers were also needed for the HD based authorisation, i dont think the ilok existed in these days. when i recall right, my first dongle were only required for TDM products.

[Syn-Fi]

hi with my G3 beige os9 i get looking for 'scsi drive'

[supernova777]

how much do i have to pay someone to crack this?

[MacTron]

how much do i have to pay someone to crack this?

... may be today you'll get this for free, LOL

Try the copy of Antares Infinity 2.5 placed in my FTP folder.
I haven't used it really, but it seems to startup without requiring SN or authorization ...

[MacTron]

It can be downloaded from here also:

https://www.adrive.com/public/b57VpY/Infinity%202.55.sit

[alheem]

It can be downloaded from here also:

https://www.adrive.com/public/b57VpY/Infinity%202.55.sit

  Many Many Thanks!!!!!!!!!!

[supernova777]

if anyone can report back to say if this works or not that would be great


thanks very much mactron!!

[alheem]

if anyone can report back to say if this works or not that would be great


thanks very much mactron!!

OK. First attempt Mac G5 7.2 (1.8Ghz/dual) OSX10.4 - Classic ambient loaded from installer OSX10.3. Infinity seems to work ok. ( Tomorrow I'll try to upgrade to 10.4.8. & Classic 9.2.2 ) - & move my Adaptec 39160 into G5 to send direct samples to EMU/Kurzweil ( i don't really know if they are supported tough as they are newer than Infinity Emu4XTultra & K2500rs. Anyway with no sampler & SCSI Madness it works! and Save samples ( with loop locators).

[Syn-Fi]

hi, i have this working on G4 Mac Mini running OS9, which in turn, is networked and controlled my my Mac Mini 2011 running OS X 10.10 via Chicken VNC.
Thanks for posting that download link!!!

[MacTron]

hi, i have this working on G4 Mac Mini running OS9

The Mac Os X classic virtual environment, did you mean ... this is not exactly the Mac Os 9, in fact, this classic virtual environment is really bad ...
But it's OK, just to avoid confusion.

[supernova777]

he clearly said VNC (Virtual Network Computing)
which means hes connecting to a real mac os 9 machine

[Protools5LEGuy]

he clearly said VNC (Virtual Network Computing)
which means hes connecting to a real mac os 9 machine

I use VNC from native OS9. MacTron is true. That is Classic running Tiger VNCed with chicken (OSX) to a MacMini2011 w.OS X 10.10.

Not the same as when I make VNC from my 10.6.8 hack to my native OS9 machine running ChromiumVNC

[IIO]

even with VNC you dont get a mac mini to boot into OS9.

[MacTron]

which means hes connecting to a real mac os 9 machine

Which means he is connected to a VNC server. 
In this case a VNC server running on Mac Os X, at the same time that Mac Os X is running Mac Os 9 in the classic virtual environment.
...Really convoluted.

[Jakl]

hi, i have this working on G4 Mac Mini running OS9, which in turn, is networked and controlled my my Mac Mini 2011 running OS X 10.10 via Chicken VNC.
Thanks for posting that download link!!!

Syn-Fi can you let us into how you are running Macos9 on a mac mini - whether in the classic environment or you have used methods on this site to get macos9 working on a purely Macosx Mac(like the mac mini) - or even your own method to get macos9 working - let us know.

Thanks

[Syn-Fi]

hi,
i'm using Tiger with Classic environment.  I do have a G3 Beige for full OS9 but the G4 mac mini is a nice small, quiet and eco-friendly device to network with my Mac Mini Intel.

It may seem convoluted but actually its not that difficult and this arrangement comes in handy to access PPC apps via Leopard and some older OS9 stuff via Tiger.  Given Infinity is for small edits this is perfect as i would rather avoid pulling the G3 Beige out and i do not believe it is as easy to network.

[Syn-Fi]

sorry for raising and dashing hopes re. 'full' OS9 on mac mini g4. I do not believe this is possible but i'm really focused on 'Infinity' here.

[IIO]

the infinite discussion of successfully running something on something which just cant work.

we should rather discuss about the harmonic spectra of the sounds he loops.

[Protools5LEGuy]

sorry for raising and dashing hopes re. 'full' OS9 on mac mini g4. I do not believe this is possible but i'm really focused on 'Infinity' here.

Syn-Fi, you can keep working on iMic works on to boot OS9 on MacMinis if you have the will. If you are going to make VNC with it as you are doing you can disable things in OF from the tree as the graphics card.

Anyway, thanks for testing infinity on the Classic environment. Report back if you are able to communicate samplers as alheem.

[Jakl]

Thanks Syn-Fi

[Syn-Fi]

hi,
I have 3.18 Antares demo working too, which can be found on the link posted right at the top  via Way Back Machine, here again:
http://web.archive.org/web/20051124153813/http://www.pair.com/anttech/downloads/INFINITY_v3.18.hqx?hc_location=ufi

You need PACE even for the trial period
I installed these Pace drivers for OS9 : http://cdn-data.motu.com/downloads/machfive/m59mas_v.1.08.hqx?hc_location=ufi

With 3.18 you can process higher sampler rates but there is little point unless you have an Akai z4/z8.   Otherwise, it seems largely the same as the previous versions of Infinity.

I'm going to try the the various loop methods, there are 4 but i believe only 2 are distinct.  First type is for monaural, plucked sounds and the second type for complex sounds.

Basic Cross-Fade even in auto mode seems a lot better than what i am accustomed to from Bias Peak, Emu IV Ultra and Akai Z4/Z8.  But we are all really interested in the complex modes and i'm going to try and loop some pads later. 

[geforceg4]

http://web.archive.org/web/20051124153813/http://www.pair.com/anttech/downloads/INFINITY_v3.18.hqx

this url does work to download the 5mb infinity 3.18 installer!

[remy cohen]

Anyone have a good link to the version 2.x (not the demo)? Pretty much as into this as supernova777. would love a working permenant version to loop with. The links provided by MacTron are no longer available to the public.

[remy cohen]

I got taken care of!

[geforceg4]

I got taken care of!

please post for others

[k-Tracker]

Can you please share Infinity 2.55.sit?  The link doesn't work any longer.

[Syn-Fi]

hi,

old thread i know...

anyone have a version of Antares that works on a 68k mac?  2.55 doesn't play ball.  It may have been called Infinity - Jupiter systems in an earlier incarnation.

[macStuff]

greetings fellow mac enthusiasts!

do these files work?
i;m not certain if these are the actual program? or just update patches

[nsputnik]

I would love to get this working in SheepShaver.  Does anyone still have the file?

[Syn-Fi]

hi,

i have been asked to up 2.55 of Antares Infinity and here it is.
16bit as opposed to 3.18 24bit but thats all you need for H/w samplers

The manual for 3.18 is good for 2.55: https://web.archive.org/web/20030325012644/http://www.antarestech.com:80/downloads/INFINITY_Manual.pdf

As an aside I only use Infinity for serious looping tasks as i find the crossfade looping tools on most H/w samplers like the Eiii, Eiiix and Roland s770 are fine.  The aforementioned H/w samplers also have synthesis functions.  So infinity is great for looping heavily chorused sounds or looping something into a tiny little file - which is what Emu, Roland & Ensoniq put to good use when they used it for their Romplers.  Generally, in my opinion, Infinity can be overkill for looping especially where you might be taking multiple samples from say a synth.  I think it has some hereto unexplored creative possibilities and if anyone has got any examples (or ideas) i would love to hear back.

Enjoy!

[IIO]

nowadays tools like kymas tau editor, melodyne, or free apps like paulstretch & co have stolen the show a bit (why would you liek to "loop" when you can stretch and interpolate with FFT or resythesise with impulses and resonators?) but infinity is some sexy little tool and performs a job which  you could not even do that way with the (harder to use) soundhack back in the days.

but the fact that 2.55 does not support 24 bits made it useless for me since the turn of the millenium. same with metasynth on classic.

[Syn-Fi]

hi this is true and i have had a Kyma Capybara system and it does sound terrific - check out Wall-E for all it can do....but it is not an instrument in the same way a h/w sampler can be.

So infinity is still a superb way of enhancing your sampler experience and building your own libraries.

[IIO]

one should merge it with recycle ... automatic transient detection for the attack and automatic loop finding for the sustain and release parts.

[Syn-Fi]

hi some points to note on a similar setup as this:

• G4 MDD OS9
  Digidesign 888/24 interface monitoring via SPDIF
  Emu EIV Sampler connected via SCSI for SMDI transfers
  Bias Peak 2.5 TDM to obtain said transfer
  Transfer is 16bit 48khz
  Infinity 2.55 to process
  
  
  

I noticed that infinity would change the sample rate of the AIFF, from the EIV obtained via Bias, to some ridiculous sample rate if you made any changes to the looping, even before saving.  Whilst i could open the resultant AIFF in Bias i could not correct the sample rate.  Eventually, i got around this by opening the file in Infinity but saving as 'SDII' which Bias can read correctly, with no sample rate changes and send back to the EIV.

As anyone else noticed this?  Even so, the 'get around' is detailed above; save in SDII in infinity 2.55

I only tend to use infinity to loop complex samples obtained from CD (as opposed to a real synth) and where i want to do more than cross-fade my favoured application is 'SPR looper' after cross fade.  I create short loops and long loops with no discernible impact on the audio quality from the original EIV take...amazing

These were on samples from 'Snatcher' the Sega Mega CD game which has 'RSS Roland' processing and even that remains intact with infinity.

keeping looping....

[macarone]

AIFF (Audio Interchange File Format) is a sound only format.

SDII (Sound Designer II) has two forks: one for sound one for the graphics.

Bias uses their own PROPRIETARY version of AIFF which adds a graphics fork, which is saved so that the visuals don't have to be recreated every time an AIFF file is opened in a Bias application.

Toast and Jam seemed to be able to handle this special AIFF, but other applications may not.

Another quirk of Bias AIFF is that when saving a small change, say adding a marker, the whole file gets rewritten and the same save takes MUCH longer than when working in SDII format.

[macStuff]

great info thanks macarone

[Syn-Fi]

so it would appear

• Infinity has a problem in handling Bias 2.5 AIFF files.
  
• There was no problem with Bias 5.2+ aiff files

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[IIO]

maybe they are headerless or something.

[Syn-Fi]

hi,

old thread i know...

anyone have a version of Antares that works on a 68k mac?  2.55 doesn't play ball.  It may have been called Infinity - Jupiter systems in an earlier incarnation.

anyone got a 68k mac version of Infinity on an old hdd? would be great to have this.

[macStuff]

did u not see the two files Attached earlier in the thread?

[Syn-Fi]

hi, yes
2.55 doesn't work on 68k
i'm after an earlier iteration...it must exist somewhere

[macStuff]

what are u using?
surely u have a non 68k mac

[Syn-Fi]

hi,
i do have a non-68k mac but i want to have my audio manipulation and sampler control on one machine. So if you fetch a sample via SCSI/SDS you can process it and send it back to the sampler without flipping samples between machines.

So a Quadra 700 that runs:

Digidesign accelerator
turbosynth
[Sounddesigner
Kurzweil K250 QLS
Infinity ~ hopefully

I actually find looping on samplers for the most part suffices but now and again Infinity can come into its own, especially with very chorused or reverberant material.

[cyberish]

Was there a 68k Infinity 2.01 version?
I just wrote to Michael Hecht who did the 2.01 patch of an app called "Infinity". (Arrg, the email address is obsolet... ) Dunno if this treats the Antares soft?

(At least we can try if this patch is running under 68k . - So I guess that the Antares app would run under 68k too?)

[Syn-Fi]

hi,
i will try this.
It may have be called 'Jupiter Systems' Infinity looping tools at that point.  It was certainly used by Emu, Korg, Roland etc to create their compact sound sets for their romplers.

There is scant info on this as it was early and before the internet as we know it.

[cyberish]

Indeed... thx for the info. I just read this article:
https://priceonomics.com/the-inventor-of-auto-tune/

[cyberish]

hi,
i will try this.
It may have be called 'Jupiter Systems' Infinity looping tools at that point.  It was certainly used by Emu, Korg, Roland etc to create their compact sound sets for their romplers.

There is scant info on this as it was early and before the internet as we know it.

lol : found this in the "Crazy Torrent" mentioned here: http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2749.0

[macStuff]

what would yall do without me
 

[cyberish]

I agree! Your top mac (music) archeologist !!! thx !!! 

[Kola]

Hi,   Sorry read through this and confused? 

1  Does this work on a G4 / OS9?

2 Is this the full version or just a demo?

3 If this is just the demo has any kind soul got a copy of the latest version that works?  Crackedor whatever, just that it works

Regards to all

[IIO]

it is for OS9 only and 255 is a [k] - but only supports 16 bit samples.

[Astroman]

tbh I didn't find Infinity much inspiring.
My preferred loop-tool is Bias Peak in combination with a mouse tuned by USB Overdrive.
The wheel does centered zoom in-out, right button starts playback, wheel button sets the loop markers to selection. Fast and precise and the display is very light in eye-strain.

[IIO]

the only inspiring about it is that it is the "original" of all loop tools, which has been used for almost all of the first generation of looped samples in libraries as well as the respective romplers and samplers.

[Kola]

Hi, thanks.  Is it only a demo?  Or the full version?

[Syn-Fi]

hi,
i tried out Jupiter (early version of Antares Infinity) on my Quadra 700, System 8.3, with 20mb ram but it says 'insuffient memory' tried in 24 bit and 32 bite memory modes.

anyone had any joy in launching this early version of Infinity?

hi,
i will try this.
It may have be called 'Jupiter Systems' Infinity looping tools at that point.  It was certainly used by Emu, Korg, Roland etc to create their compact sound sets for their romplers.

There is scant info on this as it was early and before the internet as we know it.

lol : found this in the "Crazy Torrent" mentioned here: http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2749.0

[IIO]

255 should work on a quadra i think.