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[supernova777]

i havent got it going yet i have to do a fresh instal before i  get to see this thing so if one of u gentlemen want to post a review id love to read some words:D

[MacTron]

i havent got it going yet i have to do a fresh instal before i  get to see this thing so if one of u gentlemen want to post a review id love to read some words:D

... well, I have all the pieces of two MDD's all around me... several CPU modules and a hot iron solder... due to my overclocking activities...

So in short: Vanguard is one of the best virtual synth for Mac os 9.
I thought Vanguard Will be the best, but it is not. Any way it is one of the 4 best
I had to read the user manual to see all his capabilities, but the first impression is that it has the best quality sound but it takes a lot of CPU power. 
My first virtual synth of choice is NI FM7. Vanguard have to fight against impOSCar to the second place IMHO.

Let's going to read the user manual.

BTW, I'm really surprised with PlastiCZ: simplicity and impressive sound.

[IIO]

hrhr, my number 1 is the PPG, as it is my default (placeholder?) synth due to its low CPU.

soundwise there is no doubt that imposcar and oddity are the winners on OS9.

well about vanguard my position was mentioned above. i havent used it during the last 15 years, and i think that will not change. and as it seems, some of you will also not use it to make music but rather discuss it.

btw if you remember what you said in the midi thread about simplicity ... thats how i look at synths and fx, too. kontakt 5 or blue 2 come with faaaaar too much options for my taste.

[supernova777]

yes plasticz can make some really nice bass sounds .. its one of the most real analog sounding that i have heard from mac os 9

[arjen_1]

Hi,

Just tested Vanguard! I can confirm it takes lot of CPU power. However this is only at startup?!? After a while CPU load declines (same program). At startup Vanguard is buggy. In my case it doesn't produce any audio unless I load a different VSTi in slot 1 first. Then all works fine. The sound is BIG EDM style. (programming by Vengeance.de) No wonder this a must have for most trance producers. Should have some more presets IMHO. Definitely one of the best sounding VSTi's on OS9.

Plasticz was a surprise. I love it's simplicity and clear sound. Holds up against Vanguard too.

In other words....a great addition to my setup. Thanks guys!

Greetz,
Arjen

[arjen_1]

and as it seems, some of you will also not use it to make music but rather discuss it.

I disagree!  Just had a EDM rave with my kids. As a live synth it's kickin' hardddddd. LOL

[IIO]

get ya some presets soon

[arjen_1]

Cool! Thanks. Let me know...

[supernova777]

thanks for the review arjen 

[DieHard]

Although high on the learning curve (unless you want to use just the presets), I think Native Instruments Absynth deserves a high rating in the sound quality, stability, and uniqueness category. No other synth can produce, IMO, the variety of the sonic landscape that Absynth can… from classic synths emulations to "what the fuck is that sound"  I heard a four song demo with just Absynth and Battery and it was pretty hard to believe at the time… however, I do have to mention that the synth bass lines were EQed via a real Outboard Pultec, and an outboard 1960s chamber reverb was used on many of the Lead synths parts and lastly all tracks were fed into separate Neve channel strips (that I could not identify, but were turned into rack mount gear…crazy).

In the "free" category… Crystal is a pretty cool tool to have around, even if it's just for transitional effects from one song section to another.

[IIO]

Native Instruments Absynth deserves a high rating

absolutely.

[arjen_1]

Update: Vanguard is almost unusable while using the first published serials. After a approx. 15 minutes the plugin stops playing (like it's in time-limited demo mode). Second it randomly kills all audio with pops and clicks.

However after a second install using the second published serials....No problems at all! 

[arjen_1]

http://www.vengeance-sound.de/Filez/www.Vengeance-Forum.de%20Soundset%20Vol.2%20Vanguard.zip

Some free Vengeance patches for Vanguard.

[MacTron]

Update: Vanguard is almost unusable while using the first published serials. After a approx. 15 minutes the plugin stops playing (like it's in time-limited demo mode). Second it randomly kills all audio with pops and clicks.

However after a second install using the second published serials....No problems at all! 

The same was happening to me. That's why I've put the second pairs of SN

http://www.vengeance-sound.de/Filez/www.Vengeance-Forum.de%20Soundset%20Vol.2%20Vanguard.zip

Some free Vengeance patches for Vanguard.

Thank You.

[supernova777]

out of curiousity

did u try the keygen that i posted? did it produce the working keys? or the non-working keys..
errr i thought i posted it.. looks like i just posted a screenshot of it

[MacTron]

...I think Native Instruments Absynth deserves a high rating in the sound quality, stability, and uniqueness category...

I'm totally agree with this too, but...
BUT:

I don't like the sound of Arturia, (CS 80, Moog) nor Virsyn (Tera, Cube). Fogged, no bright sound no good basses. I prefer the sound of NI Fm7, impOSCar, some reFX, or NI absynth.
This last one is in my opinion the best sounding of all VST instruments available for Mac Os 9, is a shame that it have a ugly and alien interface, and the patches always try to sound too "acid" to my taste.
Just an opinion.

[arjen_1]

There seem to be a lot of interesting expansion packs (patches) for Vanguard.
http://www.vstcafe.com/2011/09/refx-vanguard-soundbanks-round-up-02.html

Don't know if those are compatible with our version. The official Refx expansions are:
V1 XP: Xenox Signature 1
V1 XP: Xenox Signature 2
V1 XP: Sounds of Revolution   
V1 XP: Sounds of Revolution 2   
V1 XP: Sounds of Revolution 3   
V1 XP: Bigtone Signature   
V1 XP: Bigtone Electronic Garden
V1 XP: Bigtone Silicon Frontiers
V1 XP: NextBeat Dance Basics   
V1 XP: Vengeance Reloaded Vol.1   
V1 XP: Vengeance Reloaded Vol.2   
V1 XP: Vengeance Reloaded Vol.3   
V1 XP: Synthation   
V1 XP: Toxicity   
V1 XP: Vengeance Part 2

Could be interesting to try...

[supernova777]

i would love to see some of the demos u guys have seen for absynth because
its never been something that ive ever got excited about
"Show me" the sounds make me a believer

[IIO]

Could be interesting to try...

could be interesting to remove the space and then try these 11 and 113 more banks.

http://file storm.to/wg2q61yypitg.html

[supernova777]

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