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WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« on: July 02, 2014, 09:55:52 AM »

WD My Book® Live
Personal Cloud Storage

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=280

High performance (100/1000) Gigabit Ethernet connection,Internal hard drive WD 3.5-inch SATA hard drive

Supported clients : Windows 8, 7,Vista, Windows XP*, Mac OS X Mountain Lion, Lion, Snow Leopard, Leopard*
* For Windows OS, Lion and Mountain Lion, you will need to install the Java runtime client.
 
Supported protocols CIFS/SMB, NFS, FTP, AFP.


... and in Mac Os 9 just type the device IP address in the AppleShare client (in the chooser) and go!
... but no body is going to telling you... but here! LOL


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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2014, 10:07:43 AM »

 8) 8) 8)

you will see excellent speed file transfers over the AFP protocol trust me  8) 8) 8)
better then FTP even

using an AFP NAS is the best + most convenient way  ;D
this thing also would take alot less power then to have a complete machine dedicated to this purpose
in the way that i have done with my fileserver

but the difference is

my fileserver is in RAIDZ formation, with fault tolerance for a drive to fail
WD might have a RAID Mirror version of the above tho at additional cost
« Last Edit: July 02, 2014, 09:04:22 PM by chrisNova777 »
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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2014, 07:57:45 PM »

here even better they have "MyBook Live DUO" with raid mirroring!
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=620

english manual: http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/UM/ENG/4779-705065.pdf
overview: http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/AAG/ENG/4178-705284.pdf

my only complaint.. no eSATA;(
why would they put usb 2.0 instead of esata!!!
so much slower compared to esata or gigabit ethernet..
i guess gigabit ethernet is the only way to use this thing,
usb 2.0 is only there for failsafe or convenience

i would buy this....
6TB (3tb in raid 1) would be great value for me
and runs on alot less power then my home built NAS
but.. what is the cost??
i just looked up 4tb is 300$ usd
so the 6tb would be like 350$ im guessing or $400
« Last Edit: July 05, 2014, 08:18:23 PM by chrisNova777 »
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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2014, 02:48:41 PM »

I've buy one brand new very cheap. The thing that surprised me more is that it supports AFP, and to connect a Mac Os 9 machine to a 2012-2014 device! fast and easy.
Even support Mac Os 9 resource files. so no file compression are needed, and any Mac Os 9 app can be launched from this device.
But if you upgrade the firmware, this ability is lost :(
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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2014, 02:53:56 PM »

upgrading the firmware drops AFP file support?
that doesnt make sense?

also,
if using AFP
go to apple menu-> RECENT SERVERS
and click,
will popup a menu of icons of recent network connections
and u can copy this shortcut to your desktop or whatever to recconect with one click
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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2014, 11:32:03 PM »

http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/updates/?family=wdfmb_live

its funny -- we spoke recently of this -- but i think this update
+ the afp incompatibility in lion + above
is 2 sides of the same coin

in that whatever breaks compatibility with mac os 9
gives lion compatibility..
perhaps it is just impossible to have both, cant have lion compatible.. while being mac os 9 compatible..?
but yet my fileerver on nas4free is compatible with both.
so there must be a way to have our cake and eat it too..
i
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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2014, 08:45:12 AM »

High performance (100/1000) Gigabit Ethernet connection,Internal hard drive WD 3.5-inch SATA hard drive
Update:
It's unsupportable slow. After the first 250GB of spaced used, it began to have a slow behavior, and at half capacity it was really unusable. It was slowest than a USB 1.1 storage.
Today I Have pulled out the 1TB hard drive from the WD My Book live, and trashed all the remaining of the damn thin
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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2014, 09:36:06 AM »

Were the partitions bigger than 180/200 Gig?

I am thinking that DieHard 180/200 partition limits is a must
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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2014, 09:54:42 AM »

It's unsupportable slow. After the first 250GB of spaced used, it began to have a slow behavior, and at half capacity it was really unusable. It was slowest than a USB 1.1 storage.
Maybe you were using cat5 not cat5e cable and it finished been a 100 net instead of gigabit
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2014, 10:23:55 AM »

Were the partitions bigger than 180/200 Gig?

I am thinking that DieHard 180/200 partition limits is a must

this partition size guideline by diehard does not apply in anyway to mactrons scenario.... as the drive is not being run under mac os 9..

i do agree with the comment about checking the cable..

i had similar problems with my Freenas box...!! and i had to disable ipv6? that seemed to fix it .. but only temporarily ... then the problem returned..  im fairly certain its a networking problem.. im not sure what the cause is.. protocols? adapters? drivers?? cables??? im not sure what the problem was but it 'went away' for me somehow after i changed something..
but yes... here is the symptoms: file transfers start out really fast + then go really really slowly..like u said.. slower then usb 2.0
« Last Edit: November 27, 2014, 04:00:51 PM by DieHard »
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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2014, 11:05:01 AM »

Is it connected thru a router/switcher?

Are the volumes accessible thru finder?
« Last Edit: November 27, 2014, 04:01:45 PM by DieHard »
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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2014, 12:07:38 PM »

The WD My Book® Live was worse than you both think. I have used a cat5e cable and connected directly and thru a router/switch. The device really worked well, but the speed decreases at the same time as I added files.
The last thing I had done with it was a file search test. The My Book® Live 1TB against a Firewire 500GB with the same content. The Firewire 500GB successfully ended the search in 15 sec. and the "My Book® Live 1TB" in 9 minutes and it still hadn't ended the search!
As I have told before, I have noticed the progressive slow down of the device, and after a few tests, enough is enough. So I had take the screwdriver ...
« Last Edit: November 27, 2014, 09:45:16 PM by DieHard »
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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2014, 01:07:49 PM »

The WD My Book® Live was worse than you both think. I have used a cat5e cable and connected directly and thru a router/switch. The device really worked well, but the speed decreases at the same time as I added files.
The last thing I had done with it was a file search test. The My Book® Live 1TB against a Firewire 500GB with the same content. The Firewire 500GB successfully ended the search in 15 sec. and the "My Book® Live 1TB" in 9 minutes and it still hadn't ended the search!
As I have told before, I have noticed the progressive slow down of the device, and after a few tests, enough is enough. So I had take the screwdriver ...

Firewire drives are always the way in OS9. With USB2 drives I boot OSX to transfer files. I am a noob with net-drives, NAS and all that.

Maybe the drive works "acceptable" when less than 40 percent storage.

Offtopic: How did you formatted that drive?

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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2014, 04:05:39 PM »

Download the Western Digital Data Lifeguard diagnostics (Not sure if there is a Mac Version); It will take a long time via USB, but you can test the HD... sounds like it is in failure stage 1 (the re-read slowdown) before death; Back it up immediately... No USB, I forgot... so since you pulled the drive you can run the diagnostics in windows (if you have a machine to do it)

Many are mad that there are no Mac Diags

http://community.wd.com/t5/Software-Accessory-Ideas/Data-Lifeguard-tools-for-Linux-and-Mac-OS-X-users/idi-p/552050

Here is what the WD Diags look like in Windows, we actually use this test on ALL Brands of SATA drives (and PATA) on 7 different servers that we use to test client hard drives

http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/940/~/how-to-test-a-drive-for-problems-using-data-lifeguard-diagnostics-for-windows
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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2014, 09:33:29 PM »

wow..
you guys need to get a sense of humor. be polite.. all i said was "silly"
wow.. so sensitive..  i thought PTLEguy was joking back..

smh.
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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2014, 09:46:14 PM »

What are you talking about... I don't see any "silly" stuff in this thread at all... anymore :)
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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2014, 04:19:15 AM »

Download the Western Digital Data Lifeguard diagnostics (Not sure if there is a Mac Version); It will take a long time via USB, but you can test the HD... sounds like it is in failure stage 1 (the re-read slowdown) before death; Back it up immediately... No USB, I forgot... so since you pulled the drive you can run the diagnostics in windows (if you have a machine to do it)

Many are mad that there are no Mac Diags

http://community.wd.com/t5/Software-Accessory-Ideas/Data-Lifeguard-tools-for-Linux-and-Mac-OS-X-users/idi-p/552050

Here is what the WD Diags look like in Windows, we actually use this test on ALL Brands of SATA drives (and PATA) on 7 different servers that we use to test client hard drives

http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/940/~/how-to-test-a-drive-for-problems-using-data-lifeguard-diagnostics-for-windows

Thanks for the info. But the hard disk is working flawlessly now in to a Firewire enclosure. The problem was the NAS software and/or hardware ... There are some others complains about it.
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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2014, 09:55:14 AM »

wow... no firmware update fix ? 

I know the Buffalo NAS/RAID Units (linkstation) are rock solid
http://www.buffalotech.com/products/network-storage
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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2014, 10:53:54 AM »

wow... no firmware update fix ? 

Upgrading the firmware make the things worse:

Even support Mac Os 9 resource files. so no file compression are needed, and any Mac Os 9 app can be launched from this device.
But if you upgrade the firmware, this ability is lost :(

Anyway, I prefer firewire...
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Re: WD My Book® Live (NAS)
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2014, 11:27:29 AM »

Ahhhh FireWire My Favorite also :)
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