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[supernova777]

http://themacelite.wikidot.com/asus-v8460

Target Mac

Tested and worked on Power Mac G4 Gigabit Ethernet, Digital Audio, Quicksilver 2001, Quicksilver 2002, MDD, FW800.
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Found one issue with changing DVI cable to D-Sub or back, if card at work (power on) after re-plugging cable the monitor will be offline. After restart worked normal. Tested in Mac OS 9.2.2 (Full support, DVD Deinterlacing, 2D/3D Accelerating) and Mac OS X 10.2 - 10.4 - works great without any Kernel Extensions modification. Not hot as 9800, but not fast as 9700/9800. No Core Image support. Don't use the NVFlasher from Graphiccelerator. It will completely broke rom file, so you need to reflash it from PC. Do not try to mod this card to Quadro4 900 XGL - it's will not working under Mac OS X even if you hack Kernel Extensions support.
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found this page making refernec to the asus Ti4600 pc version.. and the 900 XGL Nvidia... from even what he says here it seems the 900 XGL is a success to use on the mac.. it also says that this asus card is usable on the mac without flashing the rom !!!
with many able to be found at a lower price then ti4600 this is very cool;)
so there we have it.. the best performing card for mac os 9 with proper drivers

look for:
geforce4 ti 4600
asus v8460
quadro4 900 XGL

[supernova777]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/326797-001-HP-VIDEO-NVIDIA-QUADRO-FX2000-AGP-8X-2000-FX-DUAL-DVI-CARD-128MB-128M-/190993504872?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item2c78199a68



here i have found a large number of dual DVI Quadro FX 2000 cards for sale for 10$ each

if u review the specs of these cards they are comparable to the radeon 9800 pro area of performance
http://www.gpureview.com/quadro-fx-2000-card-338.html

if they could be made to work in a mac that would be quite the deal.. 10$
since it is a n agp 8x card it would need pins 3+11 taped to work in a g4 but not in a g5
..again.. thats if this card can be made to work..
acutally that might be a bad idea s its the nv30 gpu chip
the same chip as the geforce 5800 which had a really bad reputation for being a really really noisey fan
and crappy performance

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qspdnAYiiug[/youtube]heres an example.. lol

[supernova777]

this post is missing the graphics that were originally posted at the top original thread
it doesnt make alot of sense without these charts that i (painstakingly) created.. ***fixed

ok ive located the files on my own server
http://www.oldschooldaw.com/_img/gfx/graphicsChart_byCoreClock.PNG
http://www.oldschooldaw.com/_img/gfx/graphicsCardsChart_byGBs.PNG
http://www.oldschooldaw.com/_img/gfx/graphicsChart_byReleaseDate.PNG

http://lowendmac.com/video/agp/geforce-6200.html
here is a report of being able to use mac os 9 with the geforce 6200 however this card
doesnt work with the gigabit ethernet/quicksilvers/mdd's which leaves only the sawtooth + cube
that are able to use this 6200 nvidia.. reports from lowendmac say it DOES INDEED work on mac os 9!!!
and its described as "the best + most popular" choice of card replacement for the cube

[MacTron]

here is a report of being able to use mac os 9 with the geforce 6200 however this card
doesnt work with the gigabit ethernet/quicksilvers/mdd's which leaves only the sawtooth + cube
that are able to use this 6200 nvidia.. reports from lowendmac say it DOES INDEED work on mac os 9!!!
and its described as "the best + most popular" choice of card replacement for the cube

I have to tell it once again:

no acceleration = no video card

The GeForce 6200 can be used on a Mac running OS 9, but with no acceleration and with limited resolution settings

[supernova777]

no video card??
lol you are taking my video card?

what does this word mean to you mactron? "accelleration"
it means to make something faster..
it still works.. but without accelleration.. thats what the guy says!
but it still works fine... accelleration is just accelleration..
yes its "nice to have" obviously for you.. its a "must have"

the way i see it..  accelleration is "driver tweak" for "Best possible performance"
but the geforce 6200 "core clock" functionality is already "good" without accelleration..

***i have a geforce 6200 AGP card. thats why i was looking at this information.
i am reading this info with the intention of testing it out..

and this belief was shared by "japamac" who deeply investigated this issue
but his focus was probably moreso on X.. but he did mention that these advanced cards worked in
9...  so this means that he tested it out aswell...
you dont think he wouldnt "report" if it was poor performance?

why else would this 6200 be the cube owner "go to" pick of a card..
due to combination of size + performance.. thats why..
for sure many cube owner use both 9+X...

but im not looking to fight today;) so, you win.. LOL

[supernova777]

ok wait.. i see now "limited resolution settings"
maybe this is not so desirable 

ATI RAGE 128 GL "accellerated"

 vs

any card "unaccellerated"

i take it you believe "accelleration" is so important that
this lowly ati rage card "with accell" is better then anything with 3-4x its core clock "unaccellerated"?

accelleration = "to make it a bit faster" --- is one thing --- that i can live without
proper driver support "limited resolutions settings" -- for me thats a deal breaker.

[supernova777]

if only we were all in the same room, with a g4 sawtooth, an mdd, a radeon 9800, a geforce 6200, a radeon 8500 + geforce ti .. with some tape we could finally put this issue to rest hahaha

[Apfel]

Supernova, I have a question regarding your chart.

Almost every card you list is listed without the OS9 column checked "yes". But from japamac's list every card is compatible with OS 9 as well as OS X. I think I just don't understand your chart. Please explain

[Protools5LEGuy]

Chart is for Mac OS X on PowerPC .

On Mac OS 9 the chart is on other post. In plain: GeForce 4 Ti and Radeon 8500/9000/9200/9250