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Mac OS 9 Discussion / Mac OS 9, Hacks & Upgrades / Re: NEW: Temperature Monitor control strip for G4 MDD
on: August 03, 2026, 09:08:19 AM
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| Started by UnexpectedBomb - Last post by Opualuan | ||
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Awesome! Thank you!
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Mac OS 9 Discussion / Mac OS 9, Hacks & Upgrades / Re: NEW: Temperature Monitor control strip for G4 MDD
on: August 03, 2026, 09:02:41 AM
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| Started by UnexpectedBomb - Last post by UnexpectedBomb | ||
A estimated date for a second release that updates without clicking? Successfully identified the issue that you and @GaryN are seeing: there was indeed no redraw unless the CSM was clicked. An oversight on my part, should be fixed now. I tested it myself by opening the case to take the fan cooling off the CPU and I watched the temp readout slowly climb in real time, without any clicking necessary; closed the case, and watched the temp go back down. The latest version (v1.4) has been pushed to the repo. Install it and let me know how it goes. |
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Mac OS 9 Discussion / Mac OS 9 on Unsupported Hardware / Re: OS 9 on mid-2005 iBook G4? (PowerBook6,7)
on: August 01, 2026, 09:34:58 PM
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| Started by JMK19 - Last post by bfcastello | ||
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I think this post is very much on topic, but to be short:
I got OS9 booting and working fine on iBook G4 2005 12-inch following the instructions in this good thread. Of course, has no audio, no 3d accel (not that it matters, I don't have anything for OS9 that could require this) and no wifi. I have a d-link pocket dongle I can use for internet, and I am looking for an audio workaround. Meanwhile, I have a question: The excellent ATI 9550 driver posted here in this thread has only millions of colors. Games like SimCity and SimTower requires 256 colors. For some reason, this option is not available for me to select in Monitors Control Panel. Anyone knows how can I work around this? It only shows Millions of colors and my current max resolution (1024x768) as the only choice. |
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on: August 01, 2026, 02:39:12 AM
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| Started by Bolkonskij - Last post by joevt | ||
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A list of applications in my Emulators folder. All have file type APPL. Some are utilities or documents or archives. Some may be for Mac OS X only?
The file paths are listed by a script in Mac OS X, so the file system node separator is shown as forward slash / but classic Mac OS uses colon : for file system node separator. A colon : in a file name in Mac OS X is displayed as a forward slash / in the Mac OS X Finder. It is probably stored as a forward slash in the file system? Code: [Select] ./Acorn Atom/Atomac ƒ 0.6.0/Atomac |
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on: July 31, 2026, 11:53:29 PM
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| Started by Bolkonskij - Last post by Jubadub | ||
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Nevermind, it's back, guys.
 I'm attaching the files here for the time being: 1. Binaries 2. Source Code 3. The original unmodified source code of DOSBox 0.65 it was based on (tarball zipped again so it would allow me to attach it) |
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on: July 31, 2026, 03:30:23 PM
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| Started by UnexpectedBomb - Last post by Jubadub | ||
Hi all, thank you for these replies. They've been critical in guiding my latest iterations. I've already had some success with modifying the Mac OS ROM. If all goes well, this will likely result in two or more modified ROMs being built with native EHCI capability, customized by machine type. The MDD will continue to be priority #1, as it is the easiest test case. Once I have native EHCI working reliably on the MDD, I will modify the Mini's custom ROM in a similar manner and continue from there.(Bold emphasis mine.) Once the turn of the minis comes, these are the 6 (at least the first 4) relevant ROMs, all conveniently gathered in one place: Mac mini G4 ROMs (Macintosh Garden) In other words: - Mac OS ROM, stock 10.2.1 with CPU Software 5.9, has Mac mini's "v8" patches; - Mac OS ROM, stock 10.2.1 with CPU Software 5.9, has Mac mini's "v9" patches; - Mac OS ROM, Rairii's 10.2.1 with CPU Software 5.9, has Mac mini's "v8" patches; - Mac OS ROM, Rairii's 10.2.1 with CPU Software 5.9, has Mac mini's "v9" patches; I also talk about them on this newly-made post (also readable from here). With regards to the MDD and almost all other PowerMacs, at least the following come to mind: 1 - Stock "Mac OS ROM" version 10.2.1 with CPU Software 5.9, as discussed and seen here. The latest, most up-to-date Mac OS ROM officially provided by Apple, in the "691-4872-A" disc; 2 - "Mac OS ROM" version 10.2.1 with CPU Software 5.9, with modifications to accept more than 1.5 GB RAM (third limit-breaking ROM attempt). This is the most important ROM for MDD users, even though we never were able to reach the theoretical 2.0 GB limit (yet), but "only" 1.625 GB. 3 - "Mac OS ROM" version 10.2.1 with CPU Software 5.9, modified by Rairii (v20251203) with additional compatibility to also support older Mac OS versions all the way down to System 7.0 by implementing back functions that were removed from the ROMs as newer versions came out (works perfectly with Mac OS 9.2.2, too, except it breaks Power MachTen). 4 - Stock "Mac OS ROM" version 8.7, the first Mac OS ROM intended for Mac OS 9.2.2, and the last Mac OS ROM version that is able to function without causing massive visual glitches on a number of games. 5 - "Mac OS ROM" version 10.2.1 with CPU Software 5.9, slightly modified so that any PowerPC-based Mac will at least try to boot Mac OS with it, as opposed to artificially give up. Also known as the "Universal" ROM, and also known as the ROM "for all unsupported G4 Macs" or "previously-unsupported G4 Macs". Its version string is edited to also say "(Generic)" next to "CPU Software 5.9", so you know this isn't the usual 10.2.1 with CPU Software 5.9 ROM. This was done by @iMic circa 2014, as far as I know. You can download the whole ISO via Hotline from Mac OS 9 Lives!, but I have attached its ROM to this post for convenience, too. Those are all the relevant ROM files I know of, as far as Mac OS 9.2.2 is concerned. But otherwise, there might be another 4 ROMs of interest: 1 - Stock Mac OS ROM 2.5.1, the latest ROM to be included with Mac OS 8.6 by Apple, through this disc (691-2460-A), or simply this tiny download, and presumably has better G4 / AltiVec support than previous ROMs up until that point, although still presumably incomplete. (AltiVec support was only complete with Mac OS 9, according to the author of the kernel.) This ROM might be of use to Mac OS 8.6 users, in particular. 2 - Mac OS ROM 2.5.1, modified by "LightBulbFun", renamed to "Sawteeth". Designed to help certain Macs that are artifically blocked from booting Mac OS 8.6 to boot into it. Can sometimes be used in conjuction with Rairii's ROMs (v20251203) to further help with that (since it is called "Sawteeth", it can coexist in the same System Folder as Rairii's "Mac OS ROM", both tbxi files work together). You can download directly from this post, to which it is attached. 3 - Mac OS ROM 2.5.1, modified by Rairii (v20251203), to assist in booting Mac OS versions that predate Mac OS 8.6. When this ROM is good enough, it might work better with older versions of Mac OS than Rairii's 10.2.1-based ROM. 4 - Mac OS ROM 1.7.1, modified by Rairii (v20251203), to assist in booting older Mac OS versions. When this ROM is good enough, it might work better with older versions of Mac OS than Rairii's 10.2.1-based and 2.5.1-based ROMs. However, this one is old enough as not to even have USB support, so beware. Finally, I noticed that, in our Hotline archives, we also have a special disc just for the "PowerBook G4 Titanium 1 GHz" for running Mac OS 9.2.2, which uses a Mac OS ROM version 9.0.1, which seems like has also been modified compared to stock 9.0.1, but other than that, I don't know much about it. Other folks here might. I also don't know if that PowerBook model has USB 2.0 hardware, or if USB 2.0 hardware can be attached to it via CardBus, PCMIA (or whatever it was called) or similar, but if not, it might not be relevant for this topic. But I have attached the seemingly-modified ROM to this post here, as well, just in case, and for convenience. |
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on: July 31, 2026, 02:18:04 PM
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| Started by Bolkonskij - Last post by Jubadub | ||
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Oh no, I did not get a copy of Matej's DOSBox port for OS 9 in time! And now his website went offline, it seems!
 Did anyone here get to download a copy before it went down?I did archive his MMMMP on time, at least, and I will upload it to the Garden in the coming days. I am attaching it to this post right away, too. But DOSBox, I completely missed that. I was about to download it, but it turned out I was too late! https://matejhorvat.si/en/mac/mmmmp/ |
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on: July 31, 2026, 06:43:43 AM
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| Started by Jubadub - Last post by Jubadub | ||
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Hey guys, I'm bringing up this topic again very briefly across the 3 main forums to address something important, especially for Mac OS 9.2.x users on the minis:
Quote from: Jubadub ====================================================(Bold emphasis added just now.) Actually, after testing Mac OS 9.2.2 extensively with this ROM, I have to report that, while everything seems to be working perfectly well like before, ONE app isn't: it's Power MachTen. This is especially relevant if you rely on Crypto Ancienne to browse HTTPS websites with TLS up to v1.3 using either the latest Classilla or MacLynx, or if you just like Power MachTen or some other particular tool or resource it offers. If that's not a dealbreaker, however, then there's no known problem. MachTen is particularly finicky anyway, so it wouldn't be surprising at all if this was truly the only app that gets affected. I can also additionally confirm the following: using a stock Mac OS ROM file version 10.2.1 with CPU Software 5.9, with "ELN"'s Mac mini G4 patches, it works perfectly well for Mac OS 9.2.2, just like with the regular 9.6.1-based ROM we get from RossDarker's CDs. This way, Power MachTen works normally as always. ---------------------------- On a different note, to ANY mini user of the 1.33 GHz models and 1.5 GHz models specifically: The patched ROM I provided in the first post uses "ELN"'s "v9" scripts, which are beyond excellent. But it should be made known and emphasized that the v9 ROM has issues with the built-in ATI Radeon 9250 GPU inside the "silent upgrade" minis (1.33 GHz and 1.5 GHz, "PowerMac10,2") exclusively. You can find a lot more info on that here, including solutions and working setups. But because of this, while the "v8" version works on ALL 4 minis, "v9" is only really suited for the original 1.25 GHz and 1.42 GHz models ("PowerMac10,1"). Grab a copy of v8 from here if that applies to you and you don't have it yet. And check that topic I just linked to for more info if you plan to use your 1.33/1.5 GHz minis on one of many non-CRTs. Because of this, I have tweaked "ELN"'s "v9" script to do everything it always did, except the patching that injects/relates to ATI drivers. This way, the "v8" modified ATI Extensions on the Mac OS side are used instead. The script is here ("macminiv8.py"). Also in that page, for convenience, is every relevant Mac mini G4 ROM so far: - Stock 10.2.1 CPU 5.9 with "v8" patches (using the Python script I mentioned); Recommended for Mac OS 9.2.x on Mac mini G4 1.33 GHz / 1.5 GHz models - Stock 10.2.1 CPU 5.9 with v9 patches; Recommended for Mac OS 9.2.x on Mac mini G4 1.25 GHz / 1.42 GHz models - Rairii's modified 10.2.1 CPU 5.9 with "v8" patches (using the Python script I mentioned); Recommended for Mac OS older than 9.2.x on Mac mini G4 1.33 GHz / 1.5 GHz models - Rairii's modified 10.2.1 CPU 5.9 with v9 patches; Recommended for Mac OS older than 9.2.x on Mac mini G4 1.25 GHz / 1.42 GHz models - Stock 9.6.1 with v8 patches; Not really recommended anymore, but is the one otherwise shipped with RossDarker's v8 CD - Stock 9.6.1 with v9 patches; Not really recommended anymore, but is the one otherwise shipped with RossDarker's v9 CD Until I switched to a "v8" ROM (be it stock 10.2.1, Rairii's 10.2.1 or the old stock 9.6.1), I would have e.g. an OpenGL error when starting Quake III Arena's demo. But with a "v8" ROM + v8 ATI Extensions, it all works smoothly. Before, I was on a v9 ROM, which was working only because I was relying on v8 modified extensions (else there are even more issues), but even then it could not dodge this OpenGL problem. To solve ALL problems, I just use stock 10.2.1 "v8" ROM alongside an install from RossDarker's v8 CD. And, if using certain non-CRT monitors on top of that, I follow some extra steps discussed in this thread I linked to earlier. Again, all this GPU stuff is not a concern if you are a 1.25 GHz or 1.42 GHz mini user, and both v8 and v9 work equally well as far as has been reported over the years. ---------------------------- Keep on enjoying the minis! |
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Mac OS 9 Discussion / Mac OS 9 on Unsupported Hardware / Re: New G4 Mini audio CSM + breakthrough fix for G4 Mini startup mouse freeze
on: July 31, 2026, 12:57:39 AM
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| Started by UnexpectedBomb - Last post by IIO | ||
Thankfully, I am not reinventing the wheel after all mr. firmtek-sata-drivers is a member here. Quote I plan to eventually have a USB-to-SATA power cable plugged into an MDD USB port to power a SATA drive (if that actually works). that works for sure, the usual 99 cents adapters makes any SSD an USB stick. the practice problem with those is only that they are usually greater than 32gig, which means you have to use HFS instead of FAT32, and then this media is basically PPC-to-10.12 only. (for interchanging with windows or mac pro 2010 and above that sucks.) will be interesting to see what speed you will get with your new USB 2 attempt. |
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on: July 30, 2026, 05:00:23 PM
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| Started by UnexpectedBomb - Last post by torvan | ||
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I am amazed at all the head cracking! Thank you so much for the effort you are making and I am excited to be watching for it to be complete!
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