I had been hoping for a long time that we might be able to kind of revive mac multiplayer gaming on Mac OS. Would be fun to play all these great games again with some friendly folks. Maybe we should schedule a monthly game night where play Age of Empires, Bolo, Warcraft, Unreal Tournament, Skyfighters etc. etc. together?

Maybe we should really consider adding a Games forum to M9L ...

I agree! We do have a Unreal Tournament server up and running at games.macos9lives.com for anyone having the urge to play. Me and Bolkonskij tend to play a few times per month at least.

Making a monthly or so "game time" for everyone to join in would be cool. There's a nice calender function built into Simplemachines (our forum software) that would make it easy to keep track of dates and such.

And of course, if there's enough interest we'll surely add a games section to M9L!

Welcome djhan,
very cool to have somebody from Korea join our community! How about hobby developing something for Mac OS 9, have you ever tried? We're in need for good developers :-)

Anyway, enjoy it here and let us know about your experience!

Ok, when you mentioned the FW800 to FW400 cable, my knee jerk response was, "That's got to be it!"

But...digging through my tumbleweed tangle of "misc usb and firewire cables" I found I had just such a cable, so I could test exactly that...and it worked fine.

It turned out my second, larger, rugged drive only has backups of Intel versions of MacOS X, so I was unable to test booting from it.  Give me a few days and I can shuffle things around and put a version of Tiger on it.

The first attachment, "drive1.txt" is from System Profiler, booted from Tiger from the ibookg4 partition on the drive itself, for what it is worth.

The second attachment, "drive2.txt" is the same for the larger drive, but the ibook booted from its internal drive (because, as you can see, the three OS's on the drive are Intel only).

(I have a 3rd usb/firewire drive of similar size that has Tiger and OS9 on it that I boot from, but it is a different brand and not Rugged).

Comparing the two files, you can see the manufacturer and device names are radically different, even if the drives themselves look identical, other than their capacity.  Since I don't have Tiger on the larger one, I can't test, but maybe the newer drives have a problem?

One thing to try is to partition the drive, this isn't from actual knowledge on my part, but just a guess it might be a possibility.  There's always the suspicion that older hardware/firmware/os's may have trouble with larger capacities.  Who knows, eh?

The Mountain Lion install I have on the larger rugged is just a backup, so, given a couple days, I can get around to installing Tiger on it to try and boot...

Hello, I'm Korean.
I've been using Mac from Macintosh LC about 30 years ago.
I use Mac Studio and MacBook Pro in my work, and develop hobby applications for MacOS, the EdgeView.
(https://www.edgeview.co.kr/?lang=en)
If you use modern Apple Silicon Macs, and read comic books in Mac, please check my App ;-)

Also I have old Macintosh SE/30 and Powerbook G4 titanium (oldies is goodies, maybe).
Unfortunately, SE/30 have a capacitor issue, so it can't power on immediately. I want to fix it, but I don't have a skill to repair it.

Anyway, I join to here for more information about Mac and Apple products, and I hope to share my experience with you.
Thanks, best regards.

its a PowerBook G3 after all

ill try to get it running on my "cool boy" PowerBook G4 867 (Ti) as soon as i made progress getting a mac keyboard working on my blackbox kvm client module to finish my mix era marathon rig

that info was from linux. Below is the info from system profiler in 10.4, and below that the info from silverlining pro 6.5 (https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/lacie-storage-utilities-cd-rom-2004). I had to install silverlining and reboot before it would show this info. prior to that it came up as unknown.

I have it connected with a FW800 to FW400 cable. Not sure if that matters, but I don't have a FW400 cable at the moment.

What I would like to do with this, is exactly what you've done with it. At this point i repartitioned to one partition, just to simplify things.

System profiler:

FireWire Bus:

    Maximum Speed:   Up to 400 Mb/sec

Rugged FW/USB:

    Manufacturer:   LaCie
    Model:   0x0
    GUID:   0xD04B931E0815B1
    Maximum Speed:   Up to 800 Mb/sec
    Connection Speed:   Up to 400 Mb/sec
    Sub-units:
Rugged FW/USB Unit:
    Unit Software Version:   0x10483
    Unit Spec ID:   0x609E
    Firmware Revision:   0x110
    Product Revision Level:   
    Sub-units:
Rugged FW/USB SBP-LUN:
    Capacity:   465.76 GB
    Removable Media:   Yes
    BSD Name:   disk1
    OS9 Drivers:   Yes
    S.M.A.R.T. status:   Not Supported
    Volumes:
Macintosh-HD:
    Capacity:   465.76 GB
    Available:   465.31 GB
    Writable:   Yes
    File System:   HFS+
    BSD Name:   disk1s6
    Mount Point:   /Volumes/Macintosh-HD




Silverlining:

Device Information

                             \A5\A5\A5\A5  Device Information  \A5\A5\A5\A5

Model:  LaCie   Rugged FW/USB   
Version:  \00\00\00\00\E4l\00\00
Uses FireWire data interface.

Total capacity = 500 GB  (500,107,861,504 Bytes)
Total sectors = 976,773,167
Bytes per sector = 512

Name of installed driver:  .LaCieFireWireDiskDriver  (v6.5)
Reference number of Driver:  -71
FireWire bridge Device: Rugged FW/USB\00
FireWire bridge Manufacturer:  LaCie\00
FireWire bridge Model:  Ox934DSB\00 (LSI)
FireWire bridge Version:  1.10\00
FireWire bridge Unique ID:  00D04B,931E0815B1
FireWire VendorID  = D04B

Partition 1
    Name:  Apple
    Type:  Apple_partition_map
    Start block = 1
    Block count = 63

Partition 2
    Name:  Macintosh_SL
    Type:  Apple_Driver43
    Start block = 64
    Block count = 128

Partition 3
    Name:  Macintosh_SL
    Type:  Apple_Driver_ATA
    Start block = 192
    Block count = 128

Partition 4
    Name:  Macintosh_SL
    Type:  Apple_FWDriver
    Start block = 320
    Block count = 224

Partition 5
    Name:  Extra
    Type:  Apple_Free
    Start block = 544
    Block count = 224

Partition 6
    Name:  Macintosh HD
    Type:  Apple_HFS
    Start block = 768
    Block count = 976,772,000

Partition 7
    Name:  Extra
    Type:  Apple_Free
    Start block = 976,772,768
    Block count = 400

I've got two of those drives and because my tibook's optical drive is fubar, was the only way to install an os on it.  So can vouch that at least some models definitely work. 

I've got multiple partitions with os9, tiger, leopard, and backups of my ibook g4 and tibook on now.  (Was careful to use os9 drive setup when formatting originally so os9 drivers were installed).

One of mine is a 250g and the other is smaller, I believe maybe 120g or 160g.

Let me know how you got the "Info on the device from" you quoted and I can show what my two drives are and compare models.

Thanks for the reply @ssp3.. I did check out that page. My drive is a different model drive... Mine is the older USB2.0 triple interface. I'm not seeing any firmware for it online.. Seagate has a firmware page but finds nothing.

I guess what I'm really asking is has anyone been able to boot off one of these? if they just won't, i will stop wasting my time and try to find a 3rd gen ipod or something...

Info on the device from

  Device-1: 3-8.2.4:48 info: LaCie Rugged Triple Interface Mobile Hard Drive type: mass storage
    driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 chip-ID: 059f:100c
    class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>

Vendor site: https://www.seagate.com/support/creative-pro/lacie-rugged-shock-usb-2/

Thanks

I had paid very little attention (if any) to Cornica, but visited a bit back using my favorite browser Cyberdog. Cornica is the perfect site for Cyberdog. Clicking on a video, starts an automatic download, which when completed automatically opens QuickTime Player to view the movie.

In that regard Cyberdog and OpenDoc make something of a nice follow on to Gopher, where Cyberdop shows the content available and depending on what you select the content is downloaded, saved and opened with the assigned application/viewer. Of course the draw back is that there are very few OpenDoc aware applications. For a media site like Cornica Cyperdog, acts like a playlist. With selected movies downloaded and saved going back to Cornica to rewatch a movie, the movie will play in Quicktime, without the need to re-download.

Overall it is a very pleasant experience.

Pushing this old thread, as I've just added another update to Cornica and realizing it has had its 5th year anniversary earlier! Wow.

More than 2.000+ Quicktime movies waiting for you and your lovely OS 9 Mac to discover.
Have fun