Mac OS 9 Lives
Mac OS 9 Discussion => Software => Topic started by: Philgood on July 21, 2014, 07:18:48 PM
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Don't know whats happening here.
I've just "installed" again a fresh drag-install OS9 image to my harddrive because of a problem i have with the audio system in Cubase 5 VST/32 but it's still happening.
As soon as i add an audio recording to a song and stop the playback and jump to the start locator again the playback engine just seems to stop working as i can't hear anything from there on. I noticed the CPU light of the VST performance meter lights up constantly, so the only cure is to start cubase again.
I thought it could be a conflict between extensions so i started deactivating some including the two soundcard driver extensions but that doesn't help so i finally did a clean drag-install of Mac OS9 again without installing any additional soundcard driver (only default Soundmanager) and installed only Cubase 5.1 but again as soon as i mix the midi song with some recorded audio it's gets screwed after some stop and resume of the playback.
I also tried to set the audio folder for the recordings to the same system hard drive as i have a second one for this purpose but it's stays the same.
I did all the basic recommendations of how to install and set-up of Mac OS9 and Cubase (400.000k of memory) so i'm clueless. Maybe hardware problems ?
Could you recommend some procedure for further testing ?
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Just saw this thread http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=34.0
Will try now to install Cubase again with the serial given here on the forum rather than using the one i have which came for the original 5.0 CD version...maybe it's only a registration problem as mentioned by MacTron in the above thread.
Update: Still the same. Will do a clean drag-install again after getting some sleep. Late here.
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No progress.
I did a clean drag install of Mac OS9 and installed Cubase with the serial provided from here but it behaving the same.
I did load the demo song from the cubase cd installer as i think it could be a good reference rather than starting to record something of my own and it's behaving the same: as soon as i jump between the locators the sound engine of Cubase stops working. Only restarting Cubase solves it.
I saw that the cubase 5.1 web installer put a strange named extension in the extension folder: *666 (there is actually another key represented by the asterisk but you'll get the idea)
Virus ?!
I'm now on a new drag install again and will try another DAW to exclude that it is a hardware problem.
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where did u downloda teh cubase installer from?
from this site?
we have an infected file?
the 666 extension is known as the sevendust virus yes
please detail the exact locations of which files u have used here in this thread so we might get to the bottom of this problem and have no other users affected by this issue in the future
which exact files are u downloading
we have multiple places to download said files
please be 100% specific
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I'll try my best.
The mac came with leopard installed on the main harddrive but i bought this system to be able to run a fast OS9 machine so i formated the second harddrive and used the drag-install from the forum.
Then i proceded as mentioned in the guide.
I copied the drag-install to a folder to have a fresh backup in case of reinstalling the OS and booted to the second harddrive to do the same with the first less the copying of the drag-install to a backup folder as i already had a copy on the second and booted finally to the first harddrive.
I downloaded the Internetbrowser Classilla, i think i downloaded it through my PC and copied to the mac with an USB stick, don't remember well and from there on i downloaded everything through the mac with classilla.
i first downloaded the drivers for the edirol fa-101 and the tascam us-428 and the cubase web installer from steinbergs webpage, the 5.2 public beta version because i was interested in using the system link function with
the cubase 6 AI version i have running on my PC with the steinberg firewire soundcard mr816 running windows7.
then i installed some VSTi plugins: FM7, ModelE, all from images i burnt to Cd's downloaded from the internet. I
remember that i downloaded FM7 from a Torrent and the ModelE i had a copy from the past. I also refreshed a copy of a burnt cubase vst 5/32 cd, burning it again because the old one wouldn't authorize any install complaining about scratches on that cd.
i also remember that i recently found traces of that sevendust virus of a complete scan i did on my windows machine where i host software downloaded.
As i formated both harddrives i think i maybe have some infected files i'm trying to install so i think i'll have to start over again and try to stay as clean as posible and to see if i can minimize risks with downloading everything from my windows machine again only from sources from here leaving the mac disconnected from internet.
i'll have to look into how to install the OS9 now as i want to delete everything on my two harddrives. Maybe from my 2Gb USB stick with that openfirmware trick ?
I have the possibility to do it through the firewire target mode from my eMac with OSX Tiger/Leopard but i don' t want to mess up anything mixing OS9 with OSX.
Any advice highly appreciated!
Thank you Chris.
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I'll try my best.
The mac came with leopard installed on the main harddrive but i bought this system to be able to run a fast OS9 machine so i formated the second harddrive and used the drag-install from the forum.
there is more then one version of this "Drag install" posted which is why i asked u to be specific
i just wanted to know 2 things..
which exact url for the cubase u downloaded
and exact url for the drag install version u downloaded
http:// ??
we need to delete whatever file it is u downloaded so noone else gets infected
Then i proceded as mentioned in the guide.
I copied the drag-install to a folder to have a fresh backup in case of reinstalling the OS and booted to the second harddrive to do the same with the first less the copying of the drag-install to a backup folder as i already had a copy on the second and booted finally to the first harddrive.
I downloaded the Internetbrowser Classilla, i think i downloaded it through my PC and copied to the mac with an USB stick, don't remember well and from there on i downloaded everything through the mac with classilla.
i first downloaded the drivers for the edirol fa-101 and the tascam us-428 and the cubase web installer from steinbergs webpage, the 5.2 public beta version because i was interested in using the system link function with
the cubase 6 AI version i have running on my PC with the steinberg firewire soundcard mr816 running windows7.
then i installed some VSTi plugins: FM7, ModelE, all from images i burnt to Cd's downloaded from the internet. I
remember that i downloaded FM7 from a Torrent and the ModelE i had a copy from the past. I also refreshed a copy of a burnt cubase vst 5/32 cd, burning it again because the old one wouldn't authorize any install complaining about scratches on that cd.
i also remember that i recently found traces of that sevendust virus of a complete scan i did on my windows machine where i host software downloaded.
As i formated both harddrives i think i maybe have some infected files i'm trying to install so i think i'll have to start over again and try to stay as clean as posible and to see if i can minimize risks with downloading everything from my windows machine again only from sources from here leaving the mac disconnected from internet.
you shouldnt have to delete everything the virus should not be spreading or infecting other files on a windows based computer while being stored on the drive
its a mac only virus that can only infect when an executable is run (pretty sure about this someone correct me if im wrong)
i'll have to look into how to install the OS9 now as i want to delete everything on my two harddrives. Maybe from my 2Gb USB stick with that openfirmware trick ?
I have the possibility to do it through the firewire target mode from my eMac with OSX Tiger/Leopard but i don' t want to mess up anything mixing OS9 with OSX.
Any advice highly appreciated!
Thank you Chris.
i would reccomend wiping a single drive first, repartition in 2, installing tiger 10.4.x, and then booting into tiger, installing to the 2nd partition with the proper drag install file or os9general.dmg
and then u can wipe the 2nd drive.. alternatively if u dont want to partition u can wipe one drive first and install osx and then wipe the 2nd and install os9 to each drive exclusively....
but before u do any of that .. its important that we verify the location of the infected file.
perhaps u got infected from steinberg
i would reccommend u dont download anything from them untill we figure out where this infection is coming frm..... download the files from edirol or tascam directly or get them from another user who has them on cd. we need to find otu where this virus infection is coming from.. syntho has been infected.. i havent. i was wondering if it was from me on one of my other macs because i was the one who uploaded teh fresh drag install for osx.. not the os9 version theres two versions posted one is a stuffit file and the other is a img or dmg or smi or something that i created..
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http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1035.0
is this the exact page u downloaded from?
if so did u download the os9 or osx link?
your cubase files, where they downloaded from here?
Cubase VST/24 v5.0 for Mac - Toast CD Image
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=844.0
Cubase VST/32 v5.0 for Mac OS 9 - Toast CD Image
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=849.0
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You've got a Virus. DH hasn't removed the link which gives a virus yet... see here http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1382.0
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so which link is it syntho
https://www.adrive.com/public/WJcf75/CubaseVST24_51r1.sit.bin
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https://www.adrive.com/public/7phbGy/CubaseVST32_51r1.sit.bin
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I just messaged Mactron. I thought DH removed it already.
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I'm pretty sure i downloaded this version of the drag install...
https://www.adrive.com/public/8rCZTk/922DragInstall.sea.bin
As the cubase installer i used first the original one from my vst 5/32 cd copy and downloaded from steinberg first the 5.2 public beta then the 5.1 version so i ended up with 3 program versions of cubase in the cubase folder.
Later after starting over again i also did download the 5.1 installer from here
https://www.adrive.com/public/7phbGy/CubaseVST32_51r1.sit.bin
with the original cd copy i have in the drive for the authorizing.
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That 5.1 update is no good for right now. It's got the 666 virus. ftp://ftp.steinberg.net/Archives/Cubase_VST/Mac/Cubase_VST_51x/51r1/CubaseVST32_51r1.sit - that's a good link without the virus.
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That 5.1 update is no good for right now. It's got the 666 virus. ftp://ftp.steinberg.net/Archives/Cubase_VST/Mac/Cubase_VST_51x/51r1/CubaseVST32_51r1.sit - that's a good link without the virus.
so then that file was posted there by Mactron or Diehard
one of them is infected
it says diehard
« Last Edit: April 11, 2014, 08:04:39 PM by DieHard »
someone needs to pm him with a link to this thread
diehard,
were u installing + opening some old archives around april ?
that could have infected the rest of your files?
that was before or after the adrive switch???
or right around the time we were moving files from old server to new adrive system
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So the drag installs are not infected ?
Which anti-virus program are you guys using ? just to be sure...
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Check the thread I linked you to called Lag in OS9. I posted links to the process of removing the virus. The drag installs are fine, it's the 5.1 installer that's infected.
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So the drag installs are not infected ?
Which anti-virus program are you guys using ? just to be sure...
I am running this and i do not have the virus
i also did not download that 5.1 installer because i had this file on my drive from an earlier time, having downloaded it directly from steinberg myself
syntho also said that the one on the stienberg ftp is unaffected
im really surprised that diehard has done nothing/ said nothing
the whole time this has been discussed the last week or so
he must really be distracted with family stuff
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Ok. Thank you all. Will read that whole thread.
In the meantime i downloaded Virex from the Macintosh Garden
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/virex-61
and run it with the 2007 virus definition file as mentioned in the comments seems to be the only one detecting it reliable and i found the sevendust virus in the mentioned cubase 5.1 file and in the Stuffit expander program of both harddrives.
i guess that is where it copy the virus itself also Chris said that it didn't do that ?
Anyway i used the "repair" option of Virex and will continue to install again Cubase to see if it's working now.
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i used "AGAX" or whatever and it came back negative
http://defyne.org/agax/
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Cubase is still unusable.
I installed the 5.2pb first and after the 5.1 version but the vst performance lights up still after i stop the playback and don't sound again at resume.
i have to start cubase again to reset sound engine.
i also changed the two ram sticks but that didn't matter also.
virex didn't find any sevendust virus again so i'll delete everything and will start off again.
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both the 5,2 and the 5.1r1 can live happily in the same folder okay and load properly
from there.
Whats your system specs?
Thanks
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It's a Mac G4 MDD single 1.25GHz with 1Gb of RAM and two harddrives, each put on a different bus with an ATI graphic card, don't know which model.
I just did again an reinstall of the OS, this time i used the Firewire target mode with my eMac on Tiger but Cubase just doesn't seem to be happy.
I did an virus scan with Virex and it didn't find any.
I'll try to download the Cd image of Cubase from here and burn it to CD to try to install Cubase again.
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Have you tried other apps on the same computer? Any funny happenings with other software.
Try some of the programs like - video, graphics, or other audio programs etc see if they
play up as well. I know that Cubase 5.1r1 and Cubase 5.2pb are pretty solid programs.
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if u at any time installed cubase from the cd itself this would result in this wierd behaviour
as noted by mactron in a precious thread
classic case of a messed up authorization he said (or something similar to that)
This is a clear symptom of a cubase bad registration. It happened to me dozens of times.
Reinstall Cubase 5.1. Make sure the correct version Installation CD is on the CD drive: VST 5.1/ VST 5.1 Score or 5.1 VST 32, depending on which Cubase version you'll go to install.
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=34.0
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I installed Logic Audio Platinum 4 from here
https://www.adrive.com/public/QtSn6v/Logic_v4.sea.bin
and it seems to work. I'm kinda relieved, i hope it's only a software problem.
I'll just downloaded and burned the Cubase image from here and will try to authorize with that Cd and the Cubase 5.1 net-installer.
Thanks Chris for the hint also i erased now multiple times the harddrive i can't think of being it the problem.We'll see...
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were u upping the ram alotted to the program?
what exactly is the problem again? u say its unusable..... u say Cubase just doesn't seem to be happy..
what exactly is happening?
u didnt even tell us which powermac u have?
ok i see now your sig..
-G4 MDD 1.25GHz (Single 2003) with 2x 80Gb harddrives, 1Gb RAM, Tascam US-428 and Edirol FA-101
-eMac 1.25GHz with 2Gb RAM with OSX Tiger/Leopard-iMac G3 DV 400MHz
-Intel Core2 Duo machine with 4Gb on WindowsXP/Windows7 dual boot OS.
u are trying with both interfaces? usb tascam? and firewire edirol fa-101? why not just try with one to test + make sure the problem doesnt stem from using both usb + firewire drivers at the same time?
are u sure the problem you are having isnt due to ASIO driver? what are the symptoms ?
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The symptom was that after a fresh install of cubase with both, the 5.1 and the 5.2 installer from the steinberg website using the cubase cd i have for authorizing, the audio engine just stops working as soon as i stop the playback of a demo song and want to RESUME the playback. As you already mentioned a good idea is to isolate things so i left everything unconnected (both soundcards) and just tried with the built-in one of my g4 tower, so only using the soundmanager driver.
The behaviour stayed the same. As soon as i stop and resume the playback the audio engine of cubase stops working.
I finally installed Logic Audio 4 from the downloadings from this forum and it seems to work good. i didn`t have any demo song at hand for Logic so i loaded a plug-in instrument and recorded some notes and tried to break the engine with stopping and resuming the playback. Logics audio engine was running stable so it had to do with the installation of cubase as hardware seemed to work ok.
Of course i raised the memory assignment to 400k of both Cubase and Logic as suggested here on the forum.
I finally downloaded the cubase cd image from here and burned it to Cd and tried another install and guess what...IT`S WORKING!
I installed already the drivers for the Edirol soundcard and the demosong is running fine and i can`t achieve to stop the audio engine anymore with stopping and resuming the playback...HURRAY!
So my guess for the reason of the problem is a faulty CD i had of the Cubase CD. I have it since many years and actually made a copy some time ago because the first one had reading problems. I think that the copy protection used for Cubase was not authorizing well using this CD.
So my recommendation is: Don't rely on old CD copys. It`s better to support this great website and donate some money to Diehard so that we can always get good backups of the software we like so much.
Thanks to all.
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I finally downloaded the cubase cd image from here and burned it to Cd and tried another install and guess what...IT`S WORKING!
I installed already the drivers for the Edirol soundcard and the demosong is running fine and i can`t achieve to stop the audio engine anymore with stopping and resuming the playback...HURRAY!
Thanks to all.
yea it sounds to me like this was a faulty authorization because i have never experienced a problem like that
with logic i had a problem similar to that when i had more then 1gb of ram installed.. a very similar problem ocurred in that it wouldnt play in the main timeline but the edit windows for parts woudl play fine.
im very glad that u have got your setup working solid like it should be;) awesome;) now lets move forward together;)
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http://www.rolandus.com/products/details/702
(http://cms.rolandus.com/assets/images/products/gallery/fa_101_front_gal.jpg)
how do u find the edirol fa-101??
its a great looking device for sure!
i would imagine it sounds great too!
great for logic/cubase/ableton/reason/dp