Author Topic: Thoughts on the future of Mac OS 9 Lives  (Read 12615 times)

Offline Protools5LEGuy

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Re: Thoughts on the future of Mac OS 9 Lives
« Reply #100 on: April 17, 2024, 03:29:13 PM »

I have no idea which policy you're referring to, but ALL plugins where disabled when the forum moved since it wouldn't run on newer server software with plugins enabled.
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Protools5LEGuy; post a link to one of them so I can see what shortcode is used for the mini player so I can narrow it down to which plugin that generates them and I'll have a look.

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2287.msg13767#msg13767

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=6985.0

The "no youtube " policy changed links and it is a hard work to see the video.

To insert a YT video you had to copy the number from the url, but that is the only thing that we see now.

You have to open a ramdom video on youtube, change tab, copy the number from the post, change tab and paste the number with precision. An amount of work that only a fistfull of users will do.

The button to insert youtube links was after the insert image link, insert hyperlink, insert mail and insert FTP link
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Re: Thoughts on the future of Mac OS 9 Lives
« Reply #101 on: April 17, 2024, 04:04:53 PM »
The policy started right with this post and my conmiment to change them

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=3047.0

But little to none links were changed. 

I started posting videos on the "News" for every PowerPC or Mac OS9 thinking it were a safe place for them, and leaving the rest with minimum or none YT links.

Then another post that I cant find right now went more deeply on it (GaryN participated on it IIRC) and it was decided to mute/parse all YT links
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Re: Thoughts on the future of Mac OS 9 Lives
« Reply #102 on: April 17, 2024, 09:51:57 PM »
I'm going to make a suggestion, but I know it would be a very tedious task.

If you are not logged in to the forum, you cannot see the images. That's not a problem, but in my case, when I use Google Translate to translate an entire forum page, I have the text in my language, but I can't see the images. Either I translate paragraph by paragraph, or I have to have two windows open and consult text in one and photos in the other.

Would it be possible to somehow integrate Google Translator or something similar in the forum, and that you can select the language and that, by maintaining the login, you can read it in your language?

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Re: Thoughts on the future of Mac OS 9 Lives
« Reply #103 on: April 17, 2024, 11:16:49 PM »
The policy started right with this post and my conmiment to change them

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=3047.0

But little to none links were changed. 

I started posting videos on the "News" for every PowerPC or Mac OS9 thinking it were a safe place for them, and leaving the rest with minimum or none YT links.

Then another post that I cant find right now went more deeply on it (GaryN participated on it IIRC) and it was decided to mute/parse all YT links

I never thought embedded YouTube videos could become such a problem, but upon reading @Mat's post, now that I'm thinking about it, y'know, he's absolutely right! Especially with regards to the privacy bit: even on an Ultra Modern Systemâ„¢, no one should be subjected to the privacy creeps of embedded video content, that too from a company as demonstrably vile and dangerous as Google.

I, too, vouch for using simple URLs only, and for this reason alone, even more so than for "Mac OS 9 compatibility", and let the forum user decide whether to click on it (and thus make the decision to harmfully render it on their own machine) or not. With the URL rather than that shortened link code, we can also use various YouTube proxy services, some of which have the ability to do away with this problem.

I would seriously suggest we do not bring back embedded video for these security and privacy reasons. This isn't some "minor" or cosmetic thing like the "Like" button-- this is actually a SERIOUS, real-world problem. I should have noticed, and pointed out, this earlier. Also, plain URLs are pretty easy and convenient in any case, so we also don't have much of a practical nor functional need for them, to top it off.

It would be great if we could somehow fix the existing URLs into real URLs, though ,so they aren't left broken. I assume usage of such embedded videos are rather rare and exceptional, so maybe it's something mods could locate and change/edit manually, rather than this having to be done by @Knez from the side of the forum's code or database data.

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Re: Thoughts on the future of Mac OS 9 Lives
« Reply #104 on: April 17, 2024, 11:40:43 PM »
I'm fully on board with Jubadub and Mat on the YouTube links issue. Broken older posts are a problem and probably need some SQL magic to fix them. Sharing YouTube stuff as a link rather than embedding them means just one more click for those interested, but so much more benefit to all. (as laid out in Mats 2016 post)

Besides, I'd love to see the forum perform fast and reliable on Mac OS 9, to be at least one sanctuary you can safely browse to with your OS 9 machine. Those of us daily driving Mac OS 9 would be really thankful for that and I don't think it's asking too much, but well within the technical realms of what is possible. (a forum open to ALL, both new and older hardware)
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