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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #60 on: June 13, 2018, 03:49:22 PM »

*1024 :)

but yes, for transfer speed you usually use true numbers.

for storge size they use *1000 for gigabytes and up.
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #61 on: June 17, 2018, 08:18:04 PM »


So I decided to get the best 44 pins to mSATA adapter + a 240 mSATA drive. Total 33 Euros for the adaptor + 57 for the mSATA.





My mSATA disk specs in Amperes are even better than suspect.  DC +3.3 450 mA

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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #62 on: June 17, 2018, 08:56:21 PM »

Summary: Lightly better sequencial and lightly worst random.

Don’t know if PT5 used 1.92 or 2.1 to initialize his Zheino.

What a Journey! First the adapter were in cable select and that make me open the machine twice.

I connected the machine in TargetDiskMode to a Dual 867 MDD with instant DAW and from there I partitioned. Then had some errors choosing the right format for every system. Mac OS 9 loved HFS Extended , but all Mac OS X demanded somehow Journaling. A Tiger install on Mac OS Extended never let me dual boot without errors.

The PCMCIA/cardbus USB2.0 Nec chipset card is recognized and serves voltage, so you can only use it to charge the phone or a electric cigarrette... but nothing more

This machine needs some more love from Mac OS 9 hackers to make cardbus work, but otherwise a 1440x900 desktop is still awesome.

By the way, after restoring Instant DAW and dropping the unsupported MacOS ROM from the unsupported CD, you will need to take the M-Audio extension/Panel out on extension manager. Also deselect all ATI ones and choose the nVidia ones.
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #63 on: June 17, 2018, 09:16:36 PM »

Congrats! One of the very few times I've ever read the instructions
(very small green sheet with the Zheino) and I caught the jumper
configs before just slapping it in there and all back together again.

Quote: "Master mode (Not Connect)."

Thanks for the QuickBench results!
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #64 on: June 18, 2018, 10:38:52 AM »

Please let us know the functionality with ProTools after you pull up a project or 2 :)
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #65 on: July 17, 2018, 10:06:11 AM »

can one still download the iMic Rom needed for this?  I have a AL5,1 sitting here screaming to run OS 9
thanks
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #66 on: July 17, 2018, 12:35:30 PM »

think I found it.
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #67 on: December 14, 2018, 09:26:10 AM »

So where can I get the Mac Os 9.2.2 boot disc software so I can take my old G4 powerbook and turn it into an Only Mac OS 9 and no longer OS X
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #68 on: September 02, 2019, 08:15:58 AM »

Would a SCSI CARD work with this setup ?
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #69 on: January 21, 2020, 11:48:04 AM »

Would a SCSI CARD work with this setup ?

AFAIK PCMCIA card doesnt work, at least my USB 2.0 card isnt recognized

My Powerbook is loosing the cache...  :(

Still is a GHz and 17"...  :D
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #70 on: January 21, 2020, 12:33:55 PM »

Heat sink pad on upper lid is critical, replace it and no CPU overheating and it will fix cache error
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #71 on: January 21, 2020, 12:44:41 PM »

I once "repaired" it forcing more tension on the keyboard or memory screws.

Opening the Powerbook to try to repair/repaste is very, very,  very,  down in my list on TO DO things.

THanks for let me know that can still be recovered with some time.

Today, in my studio,  my PB 17 just works powered down as a Firewire Hub.  ;D  The Mac Pro on one side connected with a fw800 cable and the FW 400 on the PB connected to the Audiophile and that to a Hackintosh in Yosemite...

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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #72 on: January 21, 2020, 12:50:20 PM »

I had to use another configuration for the tests about the FW AP

A FW 800 to 400 cable as DieHard told us.

That config worked last year but after updating to latest Win 10 and MacTell have screwed the chance to run Mac OS 9 on it
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #73 on: June 13, 2020, 11:22:19 AM »

Hello,
Any updates on fixing the issues?
I suppose the video glitches on shut down and FW issues aren't really fixable, BUT this "USB missing" alert on startup and sound issues seem to be an easy fix (please, forgive my ignorance if they're not).
Sleep mode seems to be doable as well, since this PB uses the 7455 CPU...
Also I'd die for a working Cardbus slot, but I suppose it's not a priority for the community and it's rather unlikely to ever be fixed...
Nonetheless, thank you all for making OS9 on this machine possible. You people are simply the best.
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #74 on: November 13, 2021, 11:17:19 AM »

Just got it running on my Aluminum G4!

I have a few questions though

1. Can I dual boot with Tiger?
2. To enable the speakers, does the device plugged into the headphone jack have to be a working device, or could I just cut the plug of a cheap garbage pair of earbuds and use that?
3. In System Profiler, my Cardbus slot is located under the PCI slot (I have a broken ethernet port on this machine, not sure if that affects the PCI bus at all), is there any possibility the slot might just work? (See attached for screenshot.)
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #75 on: November 19, 2021, 07:22:53 PM »

Update: I'm typing this from the 17" PB G4!

One odd thing nobody has mentioned - there's a high pitched whine that comes from the area near the DC in jack. On OSX, it only happens when the machine is under some loads or scrolling through certain menus, but it's near-constant under OS9. It seems to cease when the trackpad button is active, for whatever reason.
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #76 on: November 19, 2021, 08:01:10 PM »

That type of phenomenon is called "microphonics" and can especially affect SMD caps and inductors. The idea is that the component changes size slightly as current passes through it, which is audible if the waveform pulses are at sound frequencies. It can sometimes be cured by judicious use of rubber pads or RTV silicone.
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #77 on: November 21, 2021, 08:58:08 AM »

Is there any way to get external speakers or headphones working on this?
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #78 on: January 15, 2022, 09:54:36 AM »

I'm using a cheap chinese USB sound card - it works out of the box.
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Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: PowerBook G4 17" Aluminum 5,1 (Detailed Posts)
« Reply #79 on: January 19, 2022, 10:21:38 AM »

Just got it running on my Aluminum G4!

I have a few questions though

1. Can I dual boot with Tiger?

I Have mine dual booting with 10.4.11

2. To enable the speakers, does the device plugged into the headphone jack have to be a working device, or could I just cut the plug of a cheap garbage pair of earbuds and use that?

A Dummy plug will enable the speakers to work, however on mine only the left speaker works so not sure if that's a thing or if speaker is cooked?

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