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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #75 on: March 16, 2023, 03:39:56 PM »
Yeah, I own 2 of those also (Mindprint Envoice) , they are great for recording vocals or guitar w/real tube saturation as a rack channel strip, I do not have the DI S/PDIF.  They can obviously be used with any OS or DAW

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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #76 on: March 16, 2023, 08:14:18 PM »
Interesting device... looks like the Mac OS 9 drivers are lost, though. Not here, not the Garden, not Archive.org...

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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #77 on: March 16, 2023, 10:27:32 PM »
Interesting device... looks like the Mac OS 9 drivers are lost, though. Not here, not the Garden, not Archive.org...

There are no drivers needed, it is a Pre-amp strip, if you add the "Digital I/O option" it gets connected to the Optical of your audio interface or directly to a mac with optical.  I don't have that option, so I just use the analog out.

I cleaned off the dust and have decided to use one for guitar and one for vocals over the last year; they really warm up the digital world and I like to track with some subtle EQ and compression.  The output of each mindprint envoice is going to an input on my newest interface... a Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 firewire.  I swore I would never use a Focusrite interface ever... but I am enjoying them over my Echo Audiofire 12 since I like having the ability to add some gain to some of my external MIDI gear and the pres on the saffire actually sound better than I thought they would and the MixControl software can send zero latency mixies for monitoring.

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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #78 on: March 17, 2023, 01:13:52 AM »
no ASIO drivers, no ASIO support. but i think when you buy a device the chance is high that the seller still has the CD.
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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #79 on: March 17, 2023, 01:32:20 AM »
propagamma/ploytec ASIO for OS9 was also sold separately.

but google is quiet about this...

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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #80 on: March 17, 2023, 01:42:04 AM »
Interesting device... looks like the Mac OS 9 drivers are lost, though. Not here, not the Garden, not Archive.org...
There are no drivers needed, it is a Pre-amp strip, if you add the "Digital I/O option" it gets connected to the Optical of your audio interface or directly to a mac with optical.  I don't have that option, so I just use the analog out.

But if you have Mindprint Envoice mkII with USB-port and Mac without optical in..you might want drivers for it.
I bought my first new Mac when OS X 10.1 released. And I bought that Mac because it had Mac OS 9 too. And I bought my first 68k Mac when Apple stopped PPC Macs.

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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #81 on: March 17, 2023, 08:37:11 AM »
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But if you have Mindprint Envoice mkII with USB-port and Mac without optical in..you might want drivers for it.

I have the original MK1 versions, no USB :(

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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #82 on: March 17, 2023, 12:27:41 PM »
OK. This thread has now officially gone so deep into the woods it should be a horror flicků

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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #83 on: March 17, 2023, 12:48:29 PM »
OK. This thread has now officially gone so deep into the woods it should be a horror flicků

Gary, I was just getting to the part of what I ate for lunch... now you bummed me out...lol

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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #84 on: March 17, 2023, 12:54:35 PM »
GaryN, you trying to give us all nightmares of Meryl Streep's nectarines?

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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #85 on: March 17, 2023, 02:19:16 PM »
But if you have Mindprint Envoice mkII with USB-port and Mac without optical in..you might want drivers for it.

i just checked and i actually dont have it. which explains why i am not aware of this driver at all, it always seemed to be a windows-only thing.

if somebody could deploy the ASIO driver from propagamma one could put that machine on his wishlist and it might make a good 2 channel IO solution.

otoh, can you still buy the usb card for the mkII? is it more a common or more a rare add-on?
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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #86 on: March 17, 2023, 04:40:03 PM »
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can you still buy the usb card for the mkII? is it more a common or more a rare add-on?

Not sure, but the DI-Mod for my unit is avail on eBay from Germany for about $200

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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #87 on: March 17, 2023, 08:40:39 PM »
so, as much as the rest of the unit? ;) i was afraid it is in that price range, it is probably not a bad converter.
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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #89 on: March 18, 2023, 04:53:10 AM »
But if you have Mindprint Envoice mkII with USB-port and Mac without optical in..you might want drivers for it.
i just checked and i actually dont have it. which explains why i am not aware of this driver at all, it always seemed to be a windows-only thing.

From SOS review:
"Suitable ASIO drivers for Windows (98, 2000 and XP) and Mac (OS 9 and OS X) are supplied on a CD-ROM, although as you would expect the company's web site carries the latest versions (current v2.23 for all formats)"


I bought my first new Mac when OS X 10.1 released. And I bought that Mac because it had Mac OS 9 too. And I bought my first 68k Mac when Apple stopped PPC Macs.

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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #90 on: March 18, 2023, 08:00:24 PM »
i meant the "generic", commercial propagamma, which i suspect would work with many decives.
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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #92 on: March 24, 2023, 11:11:02 AM »
I bought my first new Mac when OS X 10.1 released. And I bought that Mac because it had Mac OS 9 too. And I bought my first 68k Mac when Apple stopped PPC Macs.

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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #93 on: March 24, 2023, 11:20:35 AM »
i meant the "generic", commercial propagamma, which i suspect would work with many decives.

You mean this one?:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050410160201/http://www.usb-audio.com/get-the-driver.asp
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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #94 on: March 24, 2023, 11:42:48 AM »
OK. This thread has now officially gone so deep into the woods it should be a horror flicků

You are right..I made separate thread about that Mindprint USB-driver:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,6729.msg51132.html
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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #95 on: March 24, 2023, 12:07:23 PM »
https://babcuvpisecek.com/htpc/do-i-have-optical-out-apple-toslink-spdif-compatibility-list/

It is not complete...it missing all PPC Macs (except iMac G5) that have it.

Ok , do you have a complete source for the info about TOS Linked Macs ?
Would be nice to have all of 'em in a list.

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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #96 on: March 24, 2023, 08:27:12 PM »
i meant the "generic", commercial propagamma, which i suspect would work with many decives.

You mean this one?:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050410160201/http://www.usb-audio.com/get-the-driver.asp

yeah, it is the old name of ploytec.

you can see a picture of the OS9 ASIO controlpanel in that SOS article about the mindprint, the only other source is their old website

http://web.archive.org/web/20050324014646/http://usb-audio.com/

the main interest for some of us might be the support for the griffin imic.

maybe we should ask them if we may republish the OS9 version free of charge?
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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #97 on: March 27, 2023, 03:32:37 AM »
Ok , do you have a complete source for the info about TOS Linked Macs ?
Would be nice to have all of 'em in a list.

I don't have complete list. There is still some models for test, read my another post:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,6702.msg50992.html#msg50992
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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #98 on: March 27, 2023, 03:55:04 AM »
yeah, it is the old name of ploytec.

you can see a picture of the OS9 ASIO controlpanel in that SOS article about the mindprint, the only other source is their old website

http://web.archive.org/web/20050324014646/http://usb-audio.com/

the main interest for some of us might be the support for the griffin imic.

maybe we should ask them if we may republish the OS9 version free of charge?

Or would he/she sell source code of Mac OS 9 version?
It would be nice to continue his work for new devices, also.
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Re: Noob building DAW
« Reply #99 on: March 27, 2023, 05:23:13 AM »
i think "how to usb" should be part of the ASIO SDK, but we can ask for both. it is most likely a two men project so there should be no rights releated issues with it.
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