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gert79

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Building the "final" rig
« on: January 21, 2025, 12:23:58 PM »

I decided to rebuild my setup again and just wanted to share "my way" how to approach cabling etc.

Space is quite tight so every horizontal surface should be used.. So far power cabling for 8 channel Soundcraft mixer, 24" Monitor and Mac is done, and all the peripheral cabling.

Tomorrow i will probably remove the Doepfer sequencer from the rack and mount other devices, actually this is my first "real" rack, even if it's just a thin metal frame. on bottom is a "low" res monitor for Atari ST, will be running from FPGA miST, mostly for caged artist editors and Hotz midi translator. I am hoping to fit a MAM VF-11 vocoder without cover on top and play a bit with the trimmer settings inside (~25 trimmers, 11 band vocoder and filter bank).

Mac G4 QS is on bubble foil not to scratch the floor too much. Supply to first triple socket is 2,5mm², the phase is done with 4mm short circuit resistant rubber wire so I can attach the fluke fork for checking actual Ampere consumption anytime.

I like to call it the "final" rig since I want to do this only once and don't plan from moving away from my spot. I hope this post will not trigger negative reactions. I am a freak, I know what I do :D

If anybody is interested I can post internals of the Mac with the new "German engineered" fans - as far as I can open the side door still...

I can only mention I selected the CPU and case fan according to airflow from original fans. CPU and gfx card were quite cool with new fans, but those "silent" fans were very loud. Solution was to run the fans only on 7 volt (+5 and +12) and the system is more quiet, CPU and gfx card are only hand warm then. Downgraded to an ATI Rage pro just to have a cooler system, I only need one monitor anyways. PSU fan runs at full speed always and has almost identical specs to original fan, this one is the "loudest" and blows out medium warm hot air after running for a while. The G4 is now still louder than a usual dualcore windows laptop, but generally very quiet in comparison to other things. I cut out the metal grill from the PSU case for better airflow as well.
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robespierre

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Re: Building the "final" rig
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2025, 03:45:19 PM »

Hi, I'm a little bit confused by your picture with the ammeter. You just run the insulated flex through it, without splitting out the inner wires? How is that supposed to work, since the magnetic flux from the conductors cancel?
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Re: Building the "final" rig
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2025, 12:37:48 PM »

forgot the brand (company is dead) but the MDD with upgraded fans i got one of them too

whats going on in these fotos?
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Re: Building the "final" rig
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2025, 06:44:34 PM »

forgot the brand (company is dead) but the MDD with upgraded fans i got one of them too

Verax was the company name
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Re: Building the "final" rig
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2025, 01:22:43 PM »

Verax Ventilatoren GmbH exactly!

Wehrle Autoelektronik provides the controls for Verax fans.
The Verax motor components come from the production of maxonmotor AG.
Verax uses noise-tested ball bearings from Minebea NMB.
Actebis International Distribution GmbH has provided significant support to Verax in the development of our fans.

By Marlene Buschbeck-Idlachemi
Author, Macwelt, May 16, 2003, 13:51

"For those who are professionally dependent on a quiet computer, even the noise reduction from the Apple fan kit is not enough. Such customers are the target of the Swabian manufacturer Verax, whose much deeper solution for noise dampening of the Power Mac G4 with the mirrored drive door we were able to examine on a pre-production model. Now, the Swabian engineers have completed their work. Two kits are offered for the upgrade, which are also available together at a bundle price: the M10 kit and the M11 kit. The M10 includes a processor cooler with air duct and the case fan. With the M11, in addition, the loud fans in the power supply can be replaced. The complete set consisting of M10 + M11 (with corresponding mounting materials and installation instructions) costs 249 Euros. For compatibility information and details, visit: www.pcsilent.de"

imagine upgrading those 2003 verax fans with 2x noctuas :)))) now thats a ultimate MDD

the verax base unit needs to be 3dprinted
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Re: Building the "final" rig
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2025, 04:23:56 PM »

be careful with these goobay powerstrips if you like your house. they will be ok for a single computer but not for >1000 watts.
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Re: Building the "final" rig
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2025, 05:57:51 AM »

indeed if you are running a small studio setup grab a few of those:

Furman M-10x E

they can do 10A (>2300W)
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gert79

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Re: Building the "final" rig
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2025, 12:14:03 AM »

Ground and neutral is wired with 2,5mm², phase is wired with 4mm² short circuit resistant wire and makes the measuring loop. That wire is not available in a thinner diameter and I wanted something sturdy. The unit is square millimeter.

Fans are noiseblocker, not any other ancient German manufacturer.

The Mac is a QS.

The strips are all of decent quality like sold by Tesco. Consumption of a full rig is way below one kilowatt.

I don't really know what these cheaper Furman units really do, the one I opened once at a friend's place was a glorified power socket distributor. Apart from the mixer and Mac, most of my gear runs on wallwarts and that is what the sockets are for. If I need "power conditioning" and other voodoo I would buy components (a proper UPS) and install them. I don't think I need that.
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