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Re: Best 9.x Version For Running OS 9 Natively?
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2020, 08:21:22 AM »

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I'm confused. The ReadMe, which is a OS9Lives! jpeg opens and/or downloads.

The iso file yields:
"An error occurred during a connection to cache.os.cloudstorage.secureserver.net"

I attempted connecting / downloading with THREE generations of browsers: Classilla, TenFourFox in Leopard and Firefox 73.0.1 in Mojave
None of them got anywhere. The issue seems to be a failure of the forward / handoff to "secureserver.net"
NOT any browser fault / shortcoming.

Am I missing something?

OK, when Adrive was no longer viable and we moved to Workspace Online storage, I tested the downloads with OS9 and classzilla and they worked, however it was not a "straight forward" process, I remember that java script had to enabled for all websites and also that the download had to be clicked in a certain position, whether it was the "filename" or just the arrow, I cant remember. 

As I look at mt inventory sheet 15 MDDs (including the main one with our original site files), 9 QS, and 12 G5 Towers all made it to the storage unit alive and well.  There are 2 crates of Mac minis that also survived there, it is a 20 minute ride from here.  Special thanks to Mat for shipping a few minis directly to my new office.... so as I ramble on, let me get to the point;  I swear between today and Sat, I will prep a mini and test downloads on classzilla, every non-OS9 machine I have at the new office, literally Win X thru 10, Mac OS 10.4 to present works, so I need to get back to the basics and get an OS9 machine back up for testing.  Then I can write down the steps and post them
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Re: Best 9.x Version For Running OS 9 Natively?
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2020, 12:32:14 PM »

Very odd… indeed.

Spent several hours installing OS 10.3.9 again on the Lombard today
and attempting to access and download the highly coveted OS 9.2.2
using both Internet Explorer and Safari (all to absolutely no avail).

THEN…
I downloaded / installed Classilla 9.3.3 (via written thumb drive).
Tried to open it in 10.3.9 on the Lombard and it started to access OS 9…
along with the info that I should install Quicktime 6.0.3 (which I did not do).
Then rebooted into OS 9.2.2 (already previously installed on the Lombard)
and opened Classilla. Had to “allow” some certificate business but
with a few more clicks… it is now downloading.


*Looks like I need to set the time correctly on the Lombard.
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Re: Best 9.x Version For Running OS 9 Natively?
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2020, 02:03:43 PM »

every non-OS9 machine I have at the new office, literally Win X thru 10, Mac OS 10.4 to present works,

YESTERDAY (3/2/20) nothing worked.
TODAY (3/3/20) Everything works. Initiating a download in Classilla, requires a double-click on the .iso file. The little arrow "actions" box is not openable. BUT double-clicking works.

Either the good DieHard found and fixed it OR there's a ghost in the machine. Hmmm?
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Re: Best 9.x Version For Running OS 9 Natively?
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2020, 02:11:54 PM »

LOL, no Gary, didn't do a thing, but I appreciate your kind thoughts toward my ability to get it done.

My dearest friends, since you did my work for me. Can any of you list a step by step with numbers of the exact procedure of...
1) Exact setting for Classzilla (and version)
2) Where and what to click on the download...

I will then copy at pasted that sucker to all the download directions re: users with a Mac OS9 only computer
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Re: Best 9.x Version For Running OS 9 Natively?
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2020, 02:22:57 PM »

Click on the icon... not the arrow
and then make the choices as you go along.

(First pic shows what appears after that double-click.)
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Re: Best 9.x Version For Running OS 9 Natively?
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2020, 02:35:08 PM »

There is clearly a need to explain enabling Javascript on Classilla since so many new users seem to expect it to "just work" like a modern browser.

HOWEVER. Yesterday, the secureserver link DID NOT work…period - under ANY browser or OS. An entirely different issue.

Something to keep an eye on.
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Re: Best 9.x Version For Running OS 9 Natively?
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2020, 02:57:22 PM »

Might’ve been a “Left Coast” problem of some sort?

I accessed and downloaded it yesterday @11:00 a.m. C.S.T. via a 2009 iMac running El Crapitan - but I did have friends “out there” (also yesterday) experiencing access problems web-wide. I also downloaded it via Safari v5 / Mac OS 10.5.8 on a G4 17” iMac FP after 5 p.m. yesterday. (I tried not to drag out the Lombard until today.)

Rarely use any G4 here tethered to the web anymore / RE: security issues, speed, etc.

And as inexpensive as Core2Duo Mac Minis are now, they’re not so bad for such download / access.

Just sayin’. ;)
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Re: Best 9.x Version For Running OS 9 Natively?
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2020, 02:46:42 PM »

OK... I will save those screenshots, I thank you :)

So I am guessing the Javascript does not to have to be enable with that method
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Re: Best 9.x Version For Running OS 9 Natively?
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2020, 05:21:56 PM »

...guessing the Javascript does not to have to be enabled...

I didn’t.


Just checked under Classilla “Preferences/ Advanced” and I didn't check “Enable Java”.
However, did click on the “S” in the lower right corner of Classilla’s browser window...
when it appeared with a red circle ‘round it & struck through. (See below.)
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Re: Best 9.x Version For Running OS 9 Natively?
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2020, 10:42:07 AM »

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Just checked under Classilla “Preferences/ Advanced” and I didn't check “Enable Java”.
However, did click on the “S” in the lower right corner of Classilla’s browser window...
when it appeared with a red circle ‘round it & struck through. (See below.)

AFAIK, that just meas "danger, danger, you have enabled it globally for all sites" or maybe that means it's off, at either point running it globally is fine IMO.

Basically, running it globally means you are trusting that all the sites you go to are known safe and will NOT run some crazy malicious Java script that immediately turns your G4 into a torrent porn server.

I think this is a mute point, and I doubt any malware programmers are focused on OS 9, so I think it is safe in 2020.
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Re: Best 9.x Version For Running OS 9 Natively?
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2020, 10:46:53 AM »

If you're referring to clicking on the "S"... I don't think this enables it globally
...because it still appears with the red-circled S on other sites, afterwards.
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Re: Best 9.x Version For Running OS 9 Natively?
« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2020, 10:51:22 AM »

From Classzilla:
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NoScript, by default, disables JavaScript completely for all sites except those you white-list. You can access the white-list by clicking the S icon at the bottom right of the window, and enter hostnames for sites you trust. If you choose to disable NoScript and use JavaScript on all sites, you may check the global JavaScript option but because of the known security issues is at your own risk. You may need to reload the current page if you have just enabled JavaScript on it to make sure it can load all of its resources.

Some sites may prevent you from clicking links or viewing content while JavaScript is enabled due to these bugs. If the page you are browsing does not seem to respond to your activities or clicks, or does not show content that you expect, make sure that JavaScript is disabled and reload the page
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Guessing it's off Red circle on S means "No Scripts" ?
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If JavaScript is disabled, you may need to enable it for some sites to work at all. Remember that the default state for NoScript is to block all sites unless you state otherwise. Most sites that absolutely require JavaScript will detect this problem, and will direct you to enable it.
 
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Re: Best 9.x Version For Running OS 9 Natively?
« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2020, 10:59:29 AM »

Will have to re-examine this all later.
Errand-run day here. ::) Beat traffic!
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Re: Best 9.x Version For Running OS 9 Natively?
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2020, 02:59:35 PM »

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Re: Best 9.x Version For Running OS 9 Natively?
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2020, 03:48:40 PM »

Cannae fool ye IIO. Mask or no.

And yes, all as posted by DieHard above. Once the S is clicked, that site (whatever it might be)
is kept in the white-list. I’m not that trusting to global enable Java… torrent porn server or not.

Daylight comin’ and me wan go home. 8)
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Re: Best 9.x Version For Running OS 9 Natively?
« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2020, 05:45:06 PM »

different people, different needs.

for me, the lack of http browsing, flash and video streaming is one of the best features of OS9.

very good for my overall productivity.
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