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Mac OS 9 Discussion => Mac OS 9, Hacks & Upgrades => Topic started by: chrisNova777 on August 21, 2025, 10:37:29 PM

Title: help my b+w g3 450 is haunted! upgrading from 8.6 to 9.0 fine but 9.1 ruins it
Post by: chrisNova777 on August 21, 2025, 10:37:29 PM
hey guys
back at it first time in awhile with the b+w g3 450mhz!
man i forgot about how much of a pain in the ass these machines were!

so im workin with a b+w g3 450mhz
with seritek 1s2 sil3112 card aswell as a radeon 9200LE (given to me by Jerry thx jerry)
that i have been switching back and forth back to the original rage 128 GL card that came with the g3 because 8.6 will always boot up with the original graphics card becasue rage 128 support is cooked into the os.

so i beeen having huge issues..trying to find the right cds to use to install 8.6 + 9.2.2 on this machine!
basically where im at right now is if i upgrde to. macos9.1 it renders my partition unbootable and i have to start up from a bootable CD and use start up disk control panel to change which partition im booting to select a diff partition and i basically have to scrap my 9.1 upgaded system folder because it refuses to boot!!!!!! so i then have to nuke the whole partition and cloning (copying) my files from my 8.6 back to the other partition and start the process over again.. upgrading to 9.0 always works no problem..  is it something to do with it "updating my hard drive drivers" as it says it does during the upgrade/update (from 9.0 > 9.1)

the disk i have is a 160gb sata drive i scored
split into 3 partitions, on the machine in 8.6 using drive setup (hey it makes a difference! HOW you do something right?)
basically i have a 10.3.9 panther install on one of the partitions and then 2 partitions used for classic os 8.6 + 9.2.2

i was able + contnue to be aable to upgrade from 8.6 to 9.0 no problem but if i do the 9.0 to 9.1 it tanks my install and i cant boot up.. the cursor shows up and locks up and i never get a happy mac..

Has anyone ever encountered this or can anyone recall a reason for this?
Title: Re: help my b+w g3 450 is haunted! upgrading from 8.6 to 9.0 fine but 9.1 ruins it
Post by: chrisNova777 on August 21, 2025, 10:59:30 PM
is the crash/fault happening because i skipped the 9.0.4 update?
i recall reading that it was important to install the updates in sequential order
but 9.0.4 isnt required to install 9.1 (as it let me run the installer sitting at 9.0)
i dunno man would really like to move past this wierdness + on to bigger + better things
the b+w g3 was a very influential machine but its so much more of a pain in the ass to deal with than the sawtooth or later offerings... the hold option boot picker sure saves alot of pain in the ass booting off bootable cds to change startup disk and such!

ive used the original 8.6 "install + restore" cd for this specific g3 450 b+W which the files on the cd are dated frm apr/may 99.. that particular install boots fast and works great on this machine as it should it came with it lol the upgrade 9.0 first i used an international 9.0 cd, and now im using the En-US standard retail version that is posted on mac repository... the 9.1 update ive tried a seperate cd and ive tried an update file and they both end up with the same result - somethign cooks my install and i cant boot even once after rebooting after doing the upgrade/update
Title: Re: help my b+w g3 450 is haunted! upgrading from 8.6 to 9.0 fine but 9.1 ruins
Post by: chrisNova777 on August 22, 2025, 01:10:28 AM
i think theres a "BAD" copy of macos9.1 update + installer CD posted for download on a few of the usual suspect sites
also perhaps my problem could be related to a bad burn or a time-degraded compact disc
maybe i need to find a legit mac os9.1 cd that is in good shape + image it