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[Mat]

I am trying to use my Ti with wlan. Works well via modem and wep encryption or free. Now I wanted to use it with a hotspot from my new KaiOS phone. Therefore I open an unencrypted hotspot. The TI can connectto the phone. I can surf via Classilla, but airport is in a kind of loop and displays "searching for status" and 5 seconds later "status not available" and so on.

I can download only files up to 232kB, than it stops …
There are no adjustments possible for unencrypted hotspots at KaiOS.

Any ideas?

[Mat]

Nobody? Nothing? I expected some network professional around starting to tell "it's a well known MTU issue, … solve it by …" or similar

[robespierre]

I used to use wlans on my PowerBooks in the 2000s, but haven't had good luck with them on my "modern" WPA2 network. To debug the problem, you need to run Wireshark and capture all of the "management frames".
It does sound like the AP ("hotspot") is resetting the connection due to a mismatch with the older 802.11 protocol spoken by the Tibook.

[Jubadub]

Nobody? Nothing? I expected some network professional around starting to tell "it's a well known MTU issue, … solve it by …" or similar

Solve it via the same means you solve problems with any other wireless tech: smash the antennae with a hammer, especially if the antennae is working, then plug-in ethernet.

[Mat]

Thanks Jubadub for your input! Usually yes, but I really would like to have a usable hotspot everywhere where my mobile phone is. ;)

robespierre, any more hints how I could get it running, and what to do exactly?

[davecom]

One option is to get a bridge adapter. This is a modern device that connects to WiFi but bridges it to Ethernet. Search "Vonets Bridge" on eBay.

[laulandn]

That's very odd.  Must be something the modern networking on the phone expects, but the airport card doesn't support.  I'd expect it to either work fully or not at all!

My workaround for using older airport cards is I kept a very old linksys wrt router around, and have it on my network using the older encryption that the airport card in my tibook supports.  I only power it on when I need to connect with my old machines, as otherwise it could be relatively easily cracked, if I left it on 24/7 like my primary router.

[BoloTied]

I have an original Airport Base Station (not Extreme) and can't seem to get it to provide internet to my OS 9.2 iBook. Everything seems to be working except the iBook can't access the internet (or local network) through the Base Station.

The Airport Base Station is connected to my router (Asus ZenWifi Pro ET12) through an Ethernet cable. The iBook can connect and configure the Base Station via Airport. I've tried to configure the Base Station all different ways (including enabling "Airport to Ethernet bridging"), but the iBook can't connect to the internet via Airport.

The iBook connects to the internet fine through Ethernet (using DHCP), which is how I'm posting this comment (thanks Classilla!).

What works:
+ The iBook can connect to the Base Station via Airport and set it up with the Airport Admin Utility.
+ The Base Station can get its TCP/IP info via DHCP from my router (192.168.50.x subnet).
+ The Base Station can provide DHCP to the iBook on the 10.0.1.x subnet.
+ The "status" field in the Airport application says "Connected to the Internet via Ethernet", and the signal strength is steady at about 90%.

What doesn't work:
- iBook can't access the internet or LAN using Airport connected to the Base Station (this website is the test since it works fine through Ethernet).

I'm wracking my brain trying to think of what the missing piece is. I haven't been able to see with any network scanning software the iBook when it is connected with Airport. It may be that the network protocols of the Base Station are too old to route network traffic correctly.

Any help is appreciated!

[smilesdavis]

This smells strongly of a double NAT or improper routing configuration where the iBook is isolated behind the AirPort's internal 10.0.1.x network and packets aren’t properly NAT’d back to your router's 192.168.50.x LAN.

[wove]

I would agree with @smilesdavis. I have an AirPort Extreme and in the Airport configuration I have "Router Mode" set to "Off (Bridge Mode)". This allows the main router and internet gateway to set all the internal network address. Any other setting blocks devices connected via Airport from connecting to the internet. And yes it did take me a good while to figure out that was my problem. Networking is not my strong suit.

I was very late coming to AirPort base station and I wish I knew how good they were much earlier. I now have both an AirPort Base Station and AirPort Time Capsule and am very impressed at how easy they are setup and use. I am using the base station as an extender and its biggest use is to provide ethernet connections for pre-wireless machines.

[BoloTied]

This smells strongly of a double NAT or improper routing configuration where the iBook is isolated behind the AirPort's internal 10.0.1.x network and packets aren’t properly NAT’d back to your router's 192.168.50.x LAN.

That makes a lot of sense. I can uncheck the "Distribute IP addresses" checkbox on the Base Station, which disables both its NAT and DHCP services, and ideally turns the Base Station into an access point.

The router would then still assign the Base Station an IP through DHCP, but when the iBook tries to use DHCP, it defaults to the 169.254.x.x address with no internet. I can manually assign the iBook an address in the 192.168.50.x range, but the router doesn't recognize it and won't NAT it packets.

The router's software has options for static routes so now I'm trying to bind the iBook's MAC address to the IP I want it to use, but so far no luck. I can't tell if the router can't see the iBook through the Base Station or if it just refuses to connect out of protocol mismatch.

Edit: The Base Station is using software version 3.83 and I'm on Airport version 2.0.2.

[BoloTied]

Finally got the iBook to work with Airport DHCP! I had stupidly set the iBook in the Access Control part of the Airport Utility, but entered its MAC address wrong so the Base Station was denying passthrough access. I removed the entry and now it works!

Thanks to smilesdavis and wove for replying, I appreciate your help!

[Mat]

What annoys me even more, regarding to my initial posting. I had never any issues with any router/adsl- or cable modem. I used 5 different ones the last 2 decades with WEP or no encryption without any problems. Just now my new phone gives me just "half internet access" :-/