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MigMac

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Weird Bug: Stuffit Helper
« on: March 18, 2025, 12:18:46 AM »

When I use "select all" with a folder full of files (over 100) the clock runs endlessly, always happens if I choose "select all" from the Edit menu or with click and hold (Finderpop). The culprit seems to be Stuffit Helper, if I quit that app => back to normal, I can select the entire contents of a folder and then apply whatever I want (label color etc...). No big issue, I just need to remember I have to shutdown Stuffit Helper before I engage into "select all" mass actions, weird though  :o
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Re: Weird Bug: Stuffit Helper
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2025, 12:29:01 AM »

thanks for the heads up
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Re: Weird Bug: Stuffit Helper
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2025, 06:01:28 AM »

I've had the weirdest stuff with StuffIt products happening to me over the years, so it doesn't really surprise me. But by "the clock runs endlessly" you really mean endlessly? Not coming back after calculating stuff forever e.g. for 5 minutes?
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Re: Weird Bug: Stuffit Helper
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2025, 08:31:32 AM »

But by "the clock runs endlessly" you really mean endlessly? Not coming back after calculating stuff forever e.g. for 5 minutes?

I gave up after a few minutes, 3 or 4...
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Re: Weird Bug: Stuffit Helper
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2025, 07:05:59 PM »

Again perhaps with my reference to what I assumed that most know: how much memory have you allocated to “Drop Stuff” (Stuffit Helper?) Preferred Size?

https://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=7487.msg58027#msg58027

And any idea just how large your file folder (of over 100 files) might actually be? So large perhaps that it is simply “choking” Stuffit? You might need to break those over 100 files into two or more separate files too - and then attempt Stuffing in that manner.

Maybe you aren’t using “Drop Stuff” (from the Aladdin Folder) which I believe is included with the OS 9.2.2 Universal Installer, within the Internet Utilities folder. And you might try another version from: https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/stuffit-deluxe . And thanks to your question, I just registered my copy of 6.0 with a code found there for 6.0.



And yet I can’t find any specific reference to “Stuffit Helper”. G’luck. ;)
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Re: Weird Bug: Stuffit Helper
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2025, 09:58:19 PM »

Hello

the issue is not about compressing folders/files with DropStuff but about selecting numerous files within a folder (for whatever purpose: moving, using labels, deleting and why not compressing...). And it seems the Stuffit Helper app is preventing that process (selecting) to happen.

Stuffit Helper is part of the Stuffit Deluxe 7.0.3 package and by default it is launched on startup (which you can modify by deselecting it from your startup items).

I gave it 15000K memory (recommanded size is 8669, something like that).

Once it is disabled I have no problem selecting 300 files or more within a folder, it takes more time than say 40 or 50 but it is possible.

I have different versions of Stuffit Expander/Drop Stuff on the volume I use most, from time to time, Stuffit 7 can't expand properly .sit files so it's good to have older versions: 6.0 and 5.5  :)
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Re: Weird Bug: Stuffit Helper
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2025, 11:58:15 PM »

Appreciate the explanation. Still not sure what actual use it might be - or what purpose it might have originally been intended to serve. (.sitx files?) But whatever the case, it does sound best to leave that “helper” disabled.

And as far as the 7.0.3 package goes, did you also install the OS X option as well?
https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/stuffit-standard-edition-703

I’ll stick with Version 6.0. But thank you indeed for the heads up. ;)
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Re: Weird Bug: Stuffit Helper
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2025, 03:13:37 AM »

Stuffit Helper is actually a menu you get on the left upper bar (alongside edit, special etc...) and it gives you direct access to a command once you've selected a folder or a file without having to launch/find the app you need (see second pic)

Stuffit Deluxe 7.0.3 is quite nice as it includes many apps like dropzip, droptar, secure delete etc...
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Re: Weird Bug: Stuffit Helper
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2025, 10:10:52 AM »

@MigMac Once you install FinderPop, you won't have any need for StuffIt Helper anymore (nor Magic Menu).
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Re: Weird Bug: Stuffit Helper
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2025, 11:58:55 AM »

Seems that I’ve encountered the same (or even more extreme) “bug” after installing Stuffit Deluxe 7.0.3 here on a much-maligned 800 MHz G3 iBook running OS 9.2.2. (This iBook serves as a sort of gateway or “first line of defense” test bed - before any software makes it’s way on to other bigger, faster, and more powerful machines here.) Anyway, screen freezes abounded with Stuffit’s “Magic Menu” and also with “True Finder Integration”. (Not to forget “Stuffit Helper” too.)

Confused? Some pics attached below.

And, no attempts a various combinations of the above items being… off or on, or disabled, solved the condition. Selected all 109 items in the Extensions Folder to be stuffed and it simply froze everything, no matter what I had on or off, etc. I even tried moving the individual Stuffit elements (aliases) to a folder of their own under the Apple Menu so that they might be individually utilized from there… and nope.

Then (quite by accident) I selected the entire System Folder of 2,680 items (instead of only the 109 Extensions) from the G3 iBook - and then Drop Stuff 6.0 didn’t hesitate to reduce all of those files down to a 114.4 MB .sit file. Of course it took about 10 minutes or so… but it worked.

So is it a “bug” with Stuffit Deluxe 7.0.3… or some unknown, or yet undiscovered possible other conflict? Usually my next step would be a completely, clean re-install OS 9.2.2 and then re-install & re-test 7.0.3 again but I’ve other things to do, especially as Stuffit 6.0 remains so reliable for me.

But if anyone else would care to chase this further, Aladdin Stuffit Deluxe 7.0.3’s Control Panel is entitled “True Finder Integration” which can be turned off or on AND it can also control the “Magic Menu”.

“Stuffit Helper” can be found under Startup Items, located within the Extensions Manager.

Or perhaps Jubadub’s FinderPop suggestion might be a workaround solution?

Hope you get it all figured out. :)
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