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ho-ho... NO!
« on: June 06, 2024, 11:41:57 AM »

Anyone else see this, hear about it, or was affected by it? :o

Seems that our older machines AND software have again just gone up in value?

Recent move to monthly-use (rental?) fees (instead of outright software purchase)
might have wrought new circumstances that some users might not have foreseen?



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Re: ho-ho... NO!
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2024, 11:58:09 AM »

Well, … I saw this coming already 20 years ago. But "manual content review" is another step ahead in direction of total control. I am so sad that we were not able to preclude such methodes of huge companies. But it is also one point why I still use our beloved system and never got a smartphone.

Why the hell did people start to accept all of this?
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Re: ho-ho... NO!
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2024, 12:11:05 PM »

Agree. It most certainly does not (and never did) bode well for end user.
Especially chilling when they went to that “rental stream” approach.

You don’t own the use (or perhaps apparently) your end product work entirely.

No thanks, indeed.

And again, another reason why my G4 workstations remain standalone machines.
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Re: ho-ho... NO!
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2024, 12:50:18 PM »

Time to invest in some maintenance cap-kits for my power supply’s…I will be rocking my Powermacs for the foreseeable future
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Re: ho-ho... NO!
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2024, 02:16:09 PM »

Disgusting? Yes. Surprising? No. Not in the slightest.

The best part is that unless you agree to that crap, you lose access to your own unfinished work.
Again, this is nothing new. I have album art that I created in CS3 that I can no longer access with my bought and paid for CS3–on–DVD apps. What to do? I bought Affinity Photo, Designer and Publisher and I'm never looking back.

Although… I'm going to hang on to all of the CS3 and CS5 discs I have in anticipation of the day someone solves that issue.  8)
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Re: ho-ho... NO!
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2024, 02:32:19 PM »


we own a legit copy of after effects production bundle, which was like 2700 euro 15 years ago.

since i have yet to actually use it for something commercial, i couldnt care less about the v17b5 MX ultra KL cloud version.

otoh, when that new photoshop is free, what do people expect?
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Re: ho-ho... NO!
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2024, 02:08:41 AM »

Why the hell did people start to accept all of this?

"Convenience".

And because people lethally and abysmally underestimate how organized and evil "evil" can be, because they don't personally relate to it, and because of wishful thinking, without the due maturity nor courage to actually face real problems. And so they keep going with the "flow", until they finally fall off the cliff. There's no gentler way to put it.
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2024, 06:05:15 PM »

More Adobe news….

Excerpted from Reuters, today / 6-17-2024:

The FTC accused Adobe of violating the Restore
Online Shoppers’ Confidence Act, a 2010 federal law
barring merchants from imposing charges, including
for automatic subscription renewals, unless they
clearly disclose material terms and obtain consumers'
informed consent.

The U.S. government sued Adobe on Monday,
accusing the Photoshop and Acrobat maker of

harming consumers by concealing hefty termination

fees in its most popular subscription plan, and making

it difficult to cancel subscriptions.

In a complaint filed in the San Jose, California, federal
court, the Federal Trade Commission said Adobe

buries the fees, which sometimes reach hundreds of
dollars, and other important terms in its "annual paid
monthly" subscription plan in the fine print, or behind

textboxes and hyperlinks.


And more info via The Verge:
https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/17/24180196/adobe-us-ftc-doj-sues-subscriptions-cancel
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Re: ho-ho... NO!
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2024, 04:16:47 AM »

Good move by FTC. I wish EU would do something similar.

Those of us who were smart enough to stay with CS6 knew that this kind of fustercluck will happen some day ;)
« Last Edit: June 18, 2024, 05:13:16 AM by ssp3 »
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Re: ho-ho... NO!
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2024, 11:58:12 AM »

Louis Rossman has an opinion on this  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NADJBSKjlgE
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2024, 10:59:29 PM »

This is why I remain with Photoshop 7 and Illustrator 10.   Plus to be honest, I am not a pro person in any of this anymore anyway. So they are perfect for my needs.
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2024, 10:15:01 PM »

i use PS (6.5 - i cant stand the look of 7 or elements) in OS9 regulary for all kind of things and there is hardly anything which would could be done better on an M3 mac, except for intelligent rescaling, which i sometimes really miss.
the worst about rescaling in older PS is that you need 4-5 clicks to switch between NN and interpolation modes, but it is also really dumb that you lose the borders in interpolated modes.
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Re: ho-ho... NO!
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2024, 04:40:16 AM »

Still rocking CS 4 on my Dual 1.25 G4. My employer pays the subscription for my day job but refuse to use it for my personal work.
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