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aBc:
Quoted here from the new “HOME”
http://macos9lives.com/about-macos9lives :

“All downloads have been moved out of Google Drive
and made accessible directly from Mac OS9 and a
new website..."

accessible directly from Mac OS9 and a new website?

Is this in reference to the only 10 remaining
downloads directly from the Forum itself
AND that “new website” being the Hotline server…
hotline.macos9lives.com ?

If so, then maybe someone could possibly author a
“how-to” covering the varied and available Hotline
Clients and just how access and use is accomplished?

AND maybe even provide that YouTube link for the
“excellent” video about Hotline (by Nathan Powers)
mentioned here: http://macos9lives.com/hotline

Knezzen:
Well, it is available (even not directly) through the website. I'm editing the page to make it more clear.

You can access all the downloads directly over Gopher (gopher://gopher.macos9lives.com) using Netscape, Classilla or a purpose made Gopher client like TurboGopher on your Mac OS 9 machine or something like Gophie on modern macOS, Windows or Linux. There's a very informative article about Gopher on Wikipedia for anyone interested.

So why do we do this? Is it to make everything horrible for everyone? No. We want some kind of security (as in stuff not able to be crawled by lawers, bots and whatnot). We do this by using well documented protocols not being used by the general public anymore and hence we have the downloads "public" but at the same time not "public".

Sure, we need more documentation on this and a guide on how to get started.
Anyone feel like contributing? :)
EDIT: I see that you edited the sentence on the "About the site" page, aBc. I'm wondering if my English is bad since there seems to be room for misconceptions here. The entire sentence is "All downloads have been moved out of Google Drive and made accessible directly from Mac OS 9 and a new website and forum theme updated the look while retaining vintage gear compatibility."
 
 
Is it not clear that the downloads are accessible from Mac OS 9 and not "Mac OS 9 and a new website"? I can add a comma perhaps and make it like this if it makes it more clear: "All downloads have been moved out of Google Drive and made accessible directly from Mac OS 9, and a new website and forum theme updated the look while retaining vintage gear compatibility."

Knezzen:

--- Quote from: aBc on June 21, 2024, 11:52:43 AM ---AND maybe even provide that YouTube link for the
“excellent” video about Hotline (by Nathan Powers)
mentioned here: http://macos9lives.com/hotline

--- End quote ---

Done.

aBc:
Nope.

Your English was not bad and the comma does help.
Still, possibly confusing to some.

Perhaps confusion stems from those of us more
accustomed to all of the downloads being available
“directly” via (and “on”) the Forum itself… whereas
now, another “layer” has effectively been added that
requires the use of a particular Hotline client
(dependent upon what specific machine - or OS) that
one is using to access the bulk of the downloads. [OR
Gopher / Gophie.]

Now, I understand the reasoning behind this and
realize the advantages. But if it was confusing to me,
perhaps it is also confusing to others as well?

At any rate, thanks for the explanation AND I did try to
prompt IIO into writing an explanation (or a guide) for
those possibly unfamiliar with Hotline and the
necessary steps that it might require. Because I am
fairly certain that there are some, like myself, that have
never used Hotline or even Gopher / Gophie before.

Just for the record, I’m using the “Nostalgia” Hotline
Client (Intel OSX 10.6 and up) on this Intel-based
iMac running High Sierra… and it’s all very new to me.
So maybe someone actually using a “period-correct”
machine might be a better candidate to author a
guide?

And thanks very much for the YouTube video. ;)
It helped.

(As I still imagined 56K modems & DSL connections.)

Jubadub:
Most people on Mac OS 9 can simply [url = gopher://gopher.macos9lives.com/1/downloads]click on a hyperlink[/url] to browse and download the files transparently from their browsers. As you can see from my message just now, though, using forum BBCode doesn't work (it changes "gopher://" to "http://gopher//" if you try), instead of HTML:


--- Code: ---<a href="gopher://gopher.macos9lives.com/1/downloads">Mac OS 9 Lives! Downloads Section</a>
--- End code ---

But that is not a problem outside the forum pages, as gopher links work the same as http ones.

Perhaps the main issue is the ability of finding the link itself? And making it look clickable? And next to the link, a note between parenthesis to say "Classilla, Gophie or another Gopher browser required"? Like this:

Mac OS 9 Lives! Downloads Section (Classilla, Gophie or another Gopher browser required)

Maybe that can be put inside the http "Downloads" page we can go to from the menu on the left side, under "Forum Menu"?

What do you think, @aBc and @knez? Would that be good enough?

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