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PSA: M-Audio Firewire 410 Firmware Downgrade Success! Now Working in Mac OS 9

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ssp3:
It would be nice if someone else could verify this. DieHard? ;)

If the Mac OS9 version of firmware files also contain some sort of a 'hidden updater', maybe one can manipulate it and force it to update the firmware no matter what?

DieHard:

--- Quote from: ssp3 on December 19, 2023, 01:18:49 PM ---It would be nice if someone else could verify this. DieHard? ;)
--- End quote ---

OK, my quick test was with a Syba 2 port FW400 card, the 410, and windows 7 Pro (64-Bit), driver install went successfully (used the file mentioned above), but driver did not load on reboot (yellow in device manager).

I will prep an XP machine and try this again and report back... may take a few days, hopefully not a few months :)


--- Quote ---If the Mac OS9 version of firmware files also contain some sort of a 'hidden updater', maybe one can manipulate it and force it to update the firmware no matter what?
--- End quote ---

A method to burn the firmware at will (in OS 9) has never been found AFAIK

DieHard:
OK, total heart break...

These are the steps I did to make it NOT work... so hopefully you won't follow a fool

1. Pulled a working HP tower with XP Pro SP3 and a DVD ROM
2. Installed SYBA SD-FW323-3I PCI Firewire card
3. Booted PC and check device manager, FW ports good to go, drivers auto-loaded
4. Put in the M-Audio CD with the FW410 NOT connected, readme specifically states NOT to have it connected during software install, ran the file fw410_10013_cd.exe, installed without issue, then it prompted for a reboot, I shut down PC
5. Now I connected the 410 and turned on PC (still used an external AC adapter), then interestingly, it autoloaded one driver and then accessed the CD and auto loaded another with "Bootloading ROM" (or a similar message, happened fast), then it autoloaded a 3rd drive
6. All loaded great, in XP device manager it showed the 410 under "Audio" and it had under the driver info:
Driver Date: 09/30/2003
Driver Version: 5.10.0.5008
7. At this point I saw no way to get firmware version in XP as no 410 control panel is installed, just an "un-install" option under the FW410
DONE WITH PC
8. Booted QS G4 (FW410 NOT connected) and ran: Firewire 410 v1.0.1 build3
9. Prompted for reboot, connceted FW410 and reboot
10. Opened FW410 app, Same weird shit
bootloader: // (4-dot matrix symbol)
Firmware: // (4-dot matrix symbol)

No go, failed :(

DieHard:
OK... as a small update:

The Windows version apparently installs a silent file in C:\Windows\System32\fw410cpl

After running this file (looks similar to OS 9 FW410 panel) under the "Hardware" TAB, my interface reads:
Version: 2007/05/04 10:26:56
Model: 2   Version: 1

ssp3:
Question. Did you leave the CD inside the drive during reboot on your Win machine? If so, why?

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