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[IIO]

in case he was looking at me, it will only be a few mouseclicks more to make a OS9 standalone from a plug-in. luckily since a few years i am also able to implement a proper nonrealtime mode, so that you can process stuff as fast as possible.

then it will be faster compared to inside protools or logic, only cubase had the same option.

while i will never become friends with terminals, it is amazing what all exists as services. it should be a nobrainer to make a frontend or applescript for this in 10.16, just as those exist for fileconversion, samplerateconversion, rar, dmg... you name it.

[daddyjeff]

I guess using LUFS metering on material like this would be pretty useless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJLUUTf_0nw

well and everything that was done since 1990, I don't know if you've heard the mainstream from that time, there are things that just sound incredible everywhere in 2023 and will continue to sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARfJ55bUAw0

LUFS stands for Loudness Unit Full Scale, which is the new standard for measuring audio loudness. All the speculation about it just doesn't get anywhere and is just a hobby.

[ssp3]

Eek! Those frenchies with their pseudo-house. Never played that record at the club, too cheesy. Even remixes by Van Helden of their later stuff are barely tolerable. But if the millenials find it cool, so be it.
And thanks for explaining what LUFS is, otherwise I might have missed it.

[ssp3]

Sooo, I've dug up PPC versions from 1.9 to 2.3 of ToneBoosters LUFS metering plugins*. Version 2.3 already has 1770-0 and 1770-2 metering modes.

Got them running on Leopard on PowerBook G4 1.5 GHz. Boy, are these G4 machines slow with OSX. Almost unbearable. 

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* One only has to know the right people

[daddyjeff]

Sooo, I've dug up PPC versions from 1.9 to 2.3 of ToneBoosters LUFS metering plugins*. Version 2.3 already has 1770-0 and 1770-2 metering modes.

Got them running on Leopard on PowerBook G4 1.5 GHz. Boy, is this thing slow with OSX. Almost unbearable. 

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* One only has to know the right people

That happens to you because you don't put revolution 909 

Anyway they did everything with apple macintosh and rack modules and some machines that they both had, the apple macintosh was only for midi with Emagic Micrologic and the control of the digital tape DAT that recorded audio at 24 bits 96khz, in 1996. 

[daddyjeff]

Emagic Micrologic... 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7B78kdKF8U

[Protools5LEGuy]

Emagic Micrologic... 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7B78kdKF8U

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/guillemot-maxi-studio-isis

My ISIS came with Logic Audio Pro ISIS, a micrologic/logic silver with 16 audiotracks (January 1999)

[IIO]

now you have lost me.^^

[Protools5LEGuy]

now you have lost me.^^

I know having a past with ISIS is not well seen with USA/EU.   

But it was my first 16 track thing. Much more advanced than my Yamaha 4 track cassette recorder. A nice intro when PT were for rich people/real producers.

One year with it, later Logic 4.x and finally Logic 5 (Hacked) on Win.  Then I bought a G3 B&W with an AM-III. Protools 5/6 on win with AM-3 was great. So I bought another AM-III for the G3.

I realized that a setup in a G3 with hacked Logic 4 was way more stable than all my toolkit on Pentium 4+ Win XP.

A producer friend of mine convinced me that ProTools was the way to edit+share projects with him. And since then (2003) I have the Protools route.

[ssp3]

Take this!   

[IIO]

GCHQ.GOV.UK is watching you.

no ISIS deployment before marriage!

[teroyk]

Sooo, I've dug up PPC versions from 1.9 to 2.3 of ToneBoosters LUFS metering plugins*. Version 2.3 already has 1770-0 and 1770-2 metering modes.
Got them running on Leopard on PowerBook G4 1.5 GHz. Boy, are these G4 machines slow with OSX. Almost unbearable. 

Would be faster with Tiger? OSX10.5 is not designed for G4.

[ssp3]

Probably, but the problem is that most of the higher end PPC audio applications and plug-ins are compiled for 10.5.
But, I'm using PowerBook G4 only for testing purposes, some sort of proof of concept. I do not plan to use it 'for real'.
(Wait til' I test double precision oversampling EQ on this machine. I bet that this single plug-in alone will bring it to a halt.)

[daddyjeff]

Probably, but the problem is that most of the higher end PPC audio applications and plug-ins are compiled for 10.5.
But, I'm using PowerBook G4 only for testing purposes, some sort of proof of concept. I do not plan to use it 'for real'.
(Wait til' I test double precision oversampling EQ on this machine. I bet that this single plug-in alone will bring it to a halt.)

I don't know, I think that there is high-end software even in OS7, although I don't know what you mean by ¨high-end in 10.5¨

The 10.5 system didn't have as much software or dedicated hardware as os9 does, in fact a lot of things from os7, os8 and osX also gave more professional software support to os9.

You just have to take a look at the entire collection of high-end mac os9 software on this website. 

One example:  https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/digitalfishphones-audio-plugins-vstau

[IIO]

there are more different products (VST) released for OS9 than for OSX PPC, but that does not mean that they would be better.

[ssp3]

For many, especially newer generation, quantity + nice looking GUIs is all that matters.

One example:  https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/digitalfishphones-audio-plugins-vstau

Ah, Urs Heckmann. I wonder if these contain time bombs too. 

[IIO]

die fische sind von sascha, der nach 15 jahren magix inzwischen wieder bei urs arbeitet. und die waren immer freeware!

(und du bist im thread verrutscht. )

[ssp3]

Oops, warum lasse ich mich immer wieder mit Trolls ein. 

Good to know that they were free.

(Übrigens, ich bin kein Deutscher).

[Protools5LEGuy]

die fische sind von sascha, der nach 15 jahren magix inzwischen wieder bei urs arbeitet. und die waren immer freeware!

(und du bist im thread verrutscht. )

the fish are from sascha, who is now back at urs after 15 years with magix. and they always were freeware!

(and you've slipped in the thread.  )

Oops, warum lasse ich mich immer wieder mit Trolls ein. 

Good to know that they were free.

(Übrigens, ich bin kein Deutscher).

Oops, why do I keep messing with trolls.

Gut zu wissen, dass sie frei waren.

(By the way, I'm not German).