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Protools5LEGuy:
--- Quote from: ssp3 on February 08, 2023, 07:16:25 AM ---Does it reduce gain when going from L/R -> M/S?
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It should depend on the Pan Law it uses. Could be -3 or -4.5 or -6 dB.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_law
The interesting thing with L/R to M/S conversions is to treat mono and sides with different sonic routes.
IIO:
no pan law or weighting.
the only thing i do is *0.999 in the encoder. irrelevant nerdstuff for technical use cases only.
btw. they should work in OSX, too, as long as we are in a 32 bit architecture. instead of MAS, AU is supported.
for OSX there is no free runtime, but you can install the free "pluggo junior".
ssp3:
IIRC, Waves did (2.x - 3).
I am seeing all sorts of weird things on more recent systems with various dedicated M/S decoders. Just load Bitter after them. I'm not sure if I should trust them. :(
IIO:
if it is built-in into a plug-in it can make sense to set the side to a higher amplitude so that you can make use of the controls of the plug-in in a similar manner between M and S.
but otoh, then you dont really see how loud the channels are and that is not very useful.
it is also a philosophical problem. because changing the gain of either channel creates a drastic effect itself. it is only one of many use cases. if you need this, use waves S1´s vertical controller. it does exactly that, mixing M and S against each other.
or use a 2-channel gain plug-in on your M/S signal.
a proper encoder should do (a+b)/2 and (a-b)/2 and nothing else.
only then you can be sure you dont touch the amplitude relations when you insert 2 identical filters. all you have to do is to set the volume parameter in the filters to the same level for L and R (which are now M and S), and the matrix of the output will be identical to the input.
i have also seen all kind of weird stuff by industry guys who should know it better. trust is good, control is better! :)
Nesufire:
Would Soft Synths/Samplers with Instruments count under this category? Would be killer to see an upload of Bitheadz Unity DS-1 with it's original banks still present. that is if anyone has them. I've been interested in older mac vsts/samplers for a long time. already have ISO rips of a bunch of Samplecell format discs myself. I'd be pleased to upload them but I'm not entirely sure if I have permission from the original ripper of these discs to do so.
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