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Irisman

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Hi,

I read: <<The freeware ST emulator NoSTalgia is a complete emulation (...). The older Version 0.65 worked best for me on Mac OS 9.x. It was good to communicate over MIDI with my old Casio CZ-1.>>   source:  http://members.optusnet.com.au/toxicoh/emulate.htm

It´s, maybe, an easy way to use Atari ST MIDI apps like KMP, or YAMAHA V50 synth editor, or another Atari MIDI apps insideMacOs9, using OMS in the MacOs 9.2.2 environment :)

I did not find the NoSTalgia 0.65 software anywhere, so I decided to write to the developer :)

Philippe Gérin, NoSTalgia developer, kindly gave me the link to get the 0.65 version por PPC, with OMS support. I was also authorized to give copies to friends.

Further version 1.1, available at the macintoshgarden site, has the OMS disabled. After reading some info available about versions, it´s written that this function was disabled since 0.7 version.

So, I attach here the NoSTalgia 0.65 version .sit file, to make you curious.

Enjoy!
 
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2017, 08:51:31 AM »

Awesome! Is it stable enough on a G3?
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2017, 02:23:53 PM »

greetings Irisman!

thank you for sharing this information!
this is very interesting as there are literally tons of ATARI ST applications, some of which were never ported to another platform

is this a new or old development??
are u certain that the program is able to properly route MIDI to an OMS device?

from what i read on the page you linked it seemed to be saying that it doesnt interface with actual real hardware well at all. and that it was better to use to interface virtually with quicktime?

curious as to why the developer would choose to disable OMS? perhaps it was a decision based upon the limitations of the app's ability to interact with real hardware so he purposely disabled?

i look forward to hearing from anyone testing this software!
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2017, 02:29:48 PM »

Awesome! Is it stable enough on a G3?

I tried It on a Power Book G3 PDQ and It ran  👍

I could not use Cubasis . Cubase neither. On G3 or G4.
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2017, 02:42:37 PM »

greetings Irisman!

thank you for sharing this information!
this is very interesting as there are literally tons of ATARI ST applications, some of which were never ported to another platform

is this a new or old development??
curious as to what the point would be to disable OMS?

Hi, nice to read you. 👍

It is early software, not new development. It runs MIDI correctly on very interesting experimental tools for composing like algorythm generators, random note generators or so, what opens new MIDI compostional tools to the absolute awesome and stable DieHards Instant DAW.
For more complex software like sequencers/editors dont run so good. For these purpose I found that the best option for Atari emulator is clearly the Steem 3.2. It works flawlessly on Windows 7 platform. (HP Elitebook 8440p) that I have synchronized ( slave ) to the Power Mac G4 running MacOs9 .

Better get a real Atari if you want the best Atari MIDI experience. For accesory use, emulator  NoSTalgia 0.65 is nice and ready to use and do its job if capable to.

Greetings,
Irisman
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2017, 03:19:51 PM »

yes of course;
MIDI patch editors = accessory use?

there is really a large amount of them for download online
http://www.atarimania.com/utility-atari-st-juno-1--2-editor-_23813.html

if they really allow mac users to use atari midi warez on a real mac with a real midi port it will be very interesting!

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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2017, 01:28:42 AM »


MIDI patch editors = accessory use?


I could make the kawai xd-5 librarian work on the mac using the NoSTalgia 0.65, it did the bidirectional MIDI communication well  ;)

Don´t remember well, but think Yamaha 4op editor worked too.

Accesory use = utilities that works on this platform (it´s a matter of try-error to check what are those that runs, fitting your needs.  For me, random note generators, fractal generators, etc, are really nice.



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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2017, 08:10:18 AM »

Irisman,

Can you ask the developer if we can post it here as a download ?

He did say "friends" don't know how many...
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2017, 12:37:19 PM »

Irisman,

Can you ask the developer if we can post it here as a download ?

He did say "friends" don't know how many...

Authorization granted by kind developer Mr. Gèrin 👏👏👏.

He will join us as soon as membership is approved 👍 for personal authorization.

😊
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2017, 06:02:40 PM »

i´ve tried that about 20 years ago, but the main problem is that the copyprotection schemes of old atari software usually dont work in emulators. i didnt even got an editor program working which only requires a serialnumber.
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2017, 04:30:58 AM »

i´ve tried that about 20 years ago, but the main problem is that the copyprotection schemes of old atari software usually dont work in emulators. i didnt even got an editor program working which only requires a serialnumber.

Most "pro" Atari software requires some kind of dongle and few have been cracked. Most of the ones cracked are badly made and are very prone to crash, unfortunately.
The Notator SL crack works fine until you start to do more complex things. I'd recommend to get your hands on a real Atari for that rock solid MIDI timing you always dreamed about ;)
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2017, 03:13:43 PM »

i´ve got a bunch of ataris but i refuse to work with that rubbish and sold all that steinberg midi and dongle stuff right after switching to MacOS 7. there is only one program which i really missed on mac but it is a no go.
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2017, 09:58:00 PM »

Irisman,

Can you ask the developer if we can post it here as a download ?

He did say "friends" don't know how many...

Authorization granted by kind developer Mr. Gèrin 👏👏👏.


He will join us as soon as membership is approved 👍 for personal authorization.

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Hello all,

I'm the developper of NoSTalgia.
And its ok to include NoSTalgia 0.65 in the download section.
You also add a direct link :  http://users.skynet.be/sky39147/NoSTalgia_065_PPC.sit


Philippe Gérin
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2017, 10:05:21 AM »

Thankyou very much, Philippe ! 👍

Your NoSTalgia deserves preservation and special place on MIDI musicians studios! 👏👏👏
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2018, 12:30:56 AM »

did anyone get anywhere with this ATARI Emulation?
does it work with midi interfaces? is it oms compatible?
can u run old atari cubase on mac with this?

did this program ever get added to the downloads section?
theres ALOT of things that are here in  threads that are not reflected in the downloads section..
its too bad you guys arent still gung ho on BUILDING the site up! and adding more stuff!
or maybe theyt are? i barely pay attention but im trying to get back in the swing
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2018, 12:35:44 AM »

irisman!
you are lucky! id love to find a PDQ machine!! everytime i look theres none for sale
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2018, 12:42:28 AM »

Most of the ones cracked are badly made and are very prone to crash, unfortunately.
The Notator SL crack works fine until you start to do more complex things. I'd recommend to get your hands on a real Atari for that rock solid MIDI timing you always dreamed about ;)

it would be interesting if the cracked cubase for atari actually runs on this..
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2018, 12:43:43 AM »

irisman!
you are lucky! id love to find a PDQ machine!! everytime i look theres none for sale

I got some years a go a PDQ on ebay for 17$... it came from Florida, to Spain!  Still my preferred G3; with time I could get all the accesories:   removable floppy drive, removable ZIP drive, and the SCSI HDI adapter, as well as the Cardbus USB card... it only lacks firewire connection, but who matters?  It still holds the serial port :)
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2018, 12:44:58 AM »



it would be interesting if the cracked cubase for atari actually runs on this..

As I said, I could not get Cubase works with Nostalgia (although Mr Gerin said it ran...); instead, the Steem emulator for Windozes machines does that jobs without problems
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Re: NoSTalgia 0.65 - ATARI ST emulation in MacOs9 with OMS support
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2018, 12:57:15 PM »

irisman theres many many many other atari applications other than cubase though
some of which are posted publicly for download as abandonware and freeware

http://tamw.exxoshost.co.uk/
http://atari-music.fddvoron.name/timidi.htm

perhaps this might warrant another look>?
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