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Offline nanopico

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Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« on: March 08, 2017, 10:10:56 AM »
I would like to acquire a FW capture device.
Any recommendations?
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2017, 01:27:50 AM »
For what operating system? Os9 you're out of luck i think. Osx you got some options.

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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2017, 07:06:01 AM »
What kind of FW device you need?
Most of FW cameras can be used in most G3 and G4 Macs with Mac Os 9 straightforward ...
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2017, 07:14:51 AM »
What kind of FW device you need?
Most of FW cameras can be used in most G3 and G4 Macs with Mac Os 9 straightforward ...

I have a basic Digital8 camera that has no issues.

I should have been more clear. I want a FW device that can capture analog video. My old Digital8 camera had the option to convert analog video to digital and either record to Digital8 tape or send over FW.  My current camera can not do this, so I'm just trying to find a FW device that can capture analog video and works with OS 9.
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2017, 12:28:22 PM »
panasonic ag-dv1000 might be a good choice. i used one to capture and passthrough signals. you might get one for cheap on ebay. dv control is possible in os9.

whats your budget?
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2017, 05:00:13 PM »
I want a FW device that can capture analog video.

https://www.amazon.com/Grass-Valley-Canopus-77010150100-Converter/dp/B00030ATTO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BthebohwsDk

I forgot about this one.  I'll keep this in mind when funds become available.

panasonic ag-dv1000 might be a good choice. i used one to capture and passthrough signals. you might get one for cheap on ebay. dv control is possible in os9.

whats your budget?

Good to know. I didn't think about using a mind deck or camera as a passthrough like I did with my Digital8. 

Budget is pretty much I have no money for this right now unless it's under $50.  In reality I'm willing to spend about $200 when funds become available (who knows when that will happen).
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2017, 06:17:45 PM »
I would just keep using the Digital8 camera. It does the same than the Canopus ADC.

My Digital8 camera were the low end model and doesnt allow to do AD conversion, only D8 tapes to firewire.
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2017, 06:33:04 PM »

I have a basic Digital8 camera that has no issues.

I should have been more clear. I want a FW device that can capture analog video. My old Digital8 camera had the option to convert analog video to digital and either record to Digital8 tape or send over FW.  My current camera can not do this, so I'm just trying to find a FW device that can capture analog video and works with OS 9.

I have a device (I bought it 2 years ago) that do the opposite, it takes firewire (4 Pin) and convert it to SCART or RGB. I wanted to have a "monitor out" for Premiere/Final Cut, but the truth is the gear is still unused, even when I have a spare TV for it. Another project for this year.

@Monitor out on Final Cut 7: https://documentation.apple.com/en/finalcutpro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=14%26section=1%26tasks=true
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2017, 04:34:05 AM »
I am using my Panasonic NV-GS250 for such tasks. Should be quit cheap these days, and still a very good 3CCD camcorder.

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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2017, 06:19:16 AM »
I would just keep using the Digital8 camera. It does the same than the Canopus ADC.

My Digital8 camera were the low end model and doesnt allow to do AD conversion, only D8 tapes to firewire.

My current camera doesn't do AD conversion. That was my original camera that died or I would just use that.
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2017, 11:07:39 AM »
Let's just shift for a moment.
What about a pci card that can capture analog video?
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2017, 02:46:33 PM »
how much money can you spend ? then i can tell you what your best options are.

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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2017, 05:39:14 PM »
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2017, 06:02:40 AM »
how much money can you spend ? then i can tell you what your best options are.

At the moment, if there is something that meets the requirements and isn't crap I am willing to spend at most $200 (US Dollar), but I'd prefer less (wouldn't we all).  If there isn't anything in that range, that is fine, quality and feature requirement is the most important so it would just be a matter of waiting for more money to acquire.
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2017, 06:05:23 AM »
Requirements (FW or PCI)

Capture analog video via both S-Video or composite.
Works in OS 9

The camera options that have been provided are being considered.  I'd just like to find a solution that is not a camera as I don't need another one hanging around.
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2017, 06:24:11 AM »

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2417.0

Yeah, that is pretty much what I want.  Now to go find one. (unless someone else has a better idea)
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2017, 03:30:35 PM »
Try this here

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matrox-RTMac-Video-Capture-Editing-/361849263622?hash=item543fe59606:g:~vMAAOSw4GVYScR8

they have more but you probably wanna keep it on the low side. i can supply x and 9 drivers and premiere or fc 2 and 3 if needed.
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2017, 05:18:05 PM »
Try this here

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matrox-RTMac-Video-Capture-Editing-/361849263622?hash=item543fe59606:g:~vMAAOSw4GVYScR8

they have more but you probably wanna keep it on the low side. i can supply x and 9 drivers and premiere or fc 2 and 3 if needed.

I saw that earlier today and was debating.  Now that you found it as well and have drivers and such I feel better about it, so I got it.  Thank you to all for helping with this.
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2017, 10:19:11 AM »
I got a box today.
It had the Matrox RTMac card.
It looks nice.
Can't wait to install it.

Try this here

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matrox-RTMac-Video-Capture-Editing-/361849263622?hash=item543fe59606:g:~vMAAOSw4GVYScR8

they have more but you probably wanna keep it on the low side. i can supply x and 9 drivers and premiere or fc 2 and 3 if needed.
Yes I would like OS 9 drivers please (and maybe premiere and fc not sure what will be easier for me to learn at the moment).
Also do you have a manual at all?
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2017, 12:57:42 PM »
the hard copy manual aint much of a manual just the installation part of the card. same pdfs are part of the installer. premiere or fc is your taste . you can get fc2 at macgarden if you wanna look at it and decide to go for it we get you the third version and your all set. im digginn in my treasure box for the carton.

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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2017, 01:43:16 PM »
the hard copy manual aint much of a manual just the installation part of the card. same pdfs are part of the installer. premiere or fc is your taste . you can get fc2 at macgarden if you wanna look at it and decide to go for it we get you the third version and your all set. im digginn in my treasure box for the carton.

I'll probably use FC as I have a small bit of experience with that.  I am not locating any drivers/hardware software, no disc was included.  So if you do have anything that would be awesome. If not, I will keep searching.
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2017, 05:18:16 PM »
here is the installer i have on the disc manuals and extras are in the archive i only left the other langs out unless you like german and so on :D

https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3k2bxhwx4kfizu/rtmacos9.sitx?dl=0

get this here and even pull the tutorials to get you started with the app if needed

http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/final-cut-pro-20

when installing you have to choose prem or fc make sure fc is installed first so the templates and and settings go in the folders where they need to be.

if you got the time i need to dig around to get to fcp3 (weekends)

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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2017, 07:57:39 PM »
here is the installer i have on the disc manuals and extras are in the archive i only left the other langs out unless you like german and so on :D

https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3k2bxhwx4kfizu/rtmacos9.sitx?dl=0

get this here and even pull the tutorials to get you started with the app if needed

http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/final-cut-pro-20

when installing you have to choose prem or fc make sure fc is installed first so the templates and and settings go in the folders where they need to be.

if you got the time i need to dig around to get to fcp3 (weekends)

You are like my new best friend.  Thank you much.
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Re: Can someone recommend a FW capture device
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2017, 09:18:01 PM »
i just learned about capture devices which gamers use to record their play for youtube.

seems many of them still support VGA, yet often limited to 2k resolution.

see comments section here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSSChO-JdQU

that would be on my to do list, recording this way things directly from VGA can easily be realized using an Y-VGA cable and it will pull nothing from your CPU resources.
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