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What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« on: October 14, 2016, 08:16:49 AM »
I just got two packages delivered today. One had an Apple branded GeForce 4 Ti (4600) 128mb with ADC and the other a Sonnet Encore/MDX Duet 1.6ghz! Which means I have a great weekend ahed of me  -afro-

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2016, 08:38:33 AM »
Ah... sounds like fun!! Looking forward to the post installation report!;D

The last things I got was the Logitech wireless trackball, a bunch of SSD's, ide adapters and some drive mounts.

I guess the Apogee AD8000 would count too! ;D


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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2016, 11:14:27 AM »
RAM and a video card for the PowerComputing clone that was so kindly provided to me recently by a user here.
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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2016, 06:32:05 PM »
RAM, a USB/Firewire combo card and a small firewire external drive for my DP MDD. Awaiting a SATA pci card from "across the pond".
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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2016, 06:52:02 PM »
even tho some older-minded people here have talked about not overstressing pci buss when recording audio i still think that the improved data throughput of the sata pci card (over the built in ATA) combined with a MODERN SSD (being so so much much much faster then the old ATA drives from 2001-2003)  is the best upgrade for mac os period in my opinion


you will love it.


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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2016, 06:41:58 AM »
"Older-minded" (I am grinning here).

I purchased one of the very first available, 1 Gigabyte external SCSI hard drives & paid $995.00 for it, brand new.

You bet, I'll love the speed and bang-for-buck of SATA drives.
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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2016, 08:29:47 AM »
I got a chuckle out of that too and translate 'older minded' as WISER!! Haha! ;D

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2016, 08:33:31 AM »

I purchased one of the very first available, 1 Gigabyte external SCSI hard drives & paid $995.00 for it, brand new.


My first external SCSI drive was 45MB and cost $1095.00!!! :o  Maybe I'm a little 'older minded' than you Fury!! Haha! ;D ;D

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2016, 12:03:01 PM »
Last PPC-related Mac purchase was about 4 weeks ago; I obtained a G4/400 upgrade Sonnet Crescendo card for my souped-up 7600 project.  I'm still looking for 700 MHz+ ideally but not for the prices I'm seeing now.  Since I got a really good deal on the G4/400 I bought it and it represents an upgrade from the G3/300 I had in there before.  And when I finally find a reasonably priced 700+ upgrade, I'll have a spare or I can sell the G4/400 and shouldn't have a problem getting back at least what I paid for it. 

So far it has 1 GB of RAM (the max it can hold), a PCI Sonnet Tempo HD ATA card with attached 120GB "SSD" (actually an mSATA drive in an mSATA to 2.5" IDE adapter), a combo USB 2.0/FW 400 card (obviously limited to USB 1.1 speed in OS 8/9), Radeon 9200 PCI graphics with 128MB of VRAM (actual Mac Edition from NOS) -- and the G4/400 CPU, under the hood of a 7600/132.  A little more work under the hood and I should be about done.  It won't break speed records but it runs Tiger competently.  It is partitioned to run 7 different systems ranging from 7.6.1 to Tiger and it's one of my favorite old school Mac toys (the other being the G4/550 Pismo I'm using now). 

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2016, 01:19:11 PM »
even tho some older-minded people here have talked about not overstressing pci buss when recording audio i still think that the improved data throughput of the sata pci card (over the built in ATA) combined with a MODERN SSD (being so so much much much faster then the old ATA drives from 2001-2003)  is the best upgrade for mac os period in my opinion
you will love it.

If you search the Forum I have have outlived specifics in the past of when too many "bus mastering" PCI cards in a G4 can create a problem and cause audio "drop outs" and noise when recording.  With 1 audio card (Recording Interface) and 1 SATA controller, there should be no issues :)

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2016, 01:56:19 PM »
Just finished installing the GeForce card and the Sonnet MDX. Going to take some bechmarks now and compare it to the old Radeon 9000 64mb/Dual 1.5ghz setup.

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2016, 10:49:43 AM »
@Knezzen:  Would you be able to take a physical length measurement on your Ti card for me?  I want to know how long it is without the extra blank extension part of the PCB.  Supposedly the initial release of that card didn't have the extension and I'm trying to figure out if the 'short' version can be crammed in an Xserve without hitting the CPU heatsink.  I'm still in the market for one even if I have to settle for cutting the 'long' version.  (Obviously I'll still make use of one if it won't fit in the Xserve.)

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2016, 11:25:01 AM »
MacOS Plus: Sure, I'll take some mesurements, but they will be in cm and mm. The metric system rules ;)

On another note: The MDD is just as fast (or slow, depending on how you look at it) with the 1.6ghz MDX in place.
The lack of cache is very noticable in benchmarks. The upside is that since the 7447A's on the Sonnet card are much more energy efficient than the 7455's on the original Apple CPU card the machine is a lot cooler, even with the tiny Sonnet heatsink and without the loud Sonnet fan (I removed it).

So if you can find one they are pretty much the same speed as dual 1.25ghz G4's overclocked to 1.5ghz but they run a lot cooler.

I wonder if the stock apple heatsink fits the Sonnet card.... Hum... ;)

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2016, 03:56:16 AM »
So I was on the verge of selling my lovely Powerbook as I have some old DJ kit that I couldn't get a serial number for, so I kept it.  Sadly, the battery would only hold charge for about 20 minutes.  I was just randomly looking at Gumtree and bizarrely, 45 MINUTES before I started looking, a lady in Scotland posted that she was selling a battery for the exact model I have, brand new boxed!

So I immediately contacted her and struck up a deal.  £22 paid including delivery!  A lovely lady who doesn't trust the internet, so I had to post her a postal order bless her!

I haven't popped it in yet, but that's my latest purchase.

I am always keeping an eye out for FW800 drives though...
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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2016, 12:36:33 PM »
Sounds like a sweet deal, Steve_W!

I just couldn't help myself and modified my Sonnet MDX to use the stock aluminium apple heatsink instead of the tiny Sonnet one. Idle temp dropped from 40C to 35C with just switching the heatsink (using the old thermal compound for now).

A really good (and cheap) mod :)

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2016, 04:13:14 PM »
MacOS Plus: Sure, I'll take some mesurements, but they will be in cm and mm. The metric system rules ;)

  Fine by me - I'm in Canada afterall!

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2016, 05:48:36 PM »
yes us canadians use metric for many years since the 1980s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrication_in_Canada
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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2016, 02:12:40 PM »
@Knezzen:  Would you be able to take a physical length measurement on your Ti card for me?  I want to know how long it is without the extra blank extension part of the PCB.

Sorry for the late reply.
Without the extension (end of components): 225mm
Full length of the card: 311mm

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2016, 11:43:39 AM »
This just came in the mail yesterday. Just need a SATA card for the MDD and I'm all set :)

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2016, 11:47:57 AM »
u bought a normal Sata SSD from Kingspec????
i would buyy the ATA DOM by them, but the SSD?

why???? good price?


personally id prefer a better brand for a normal SSD.
but lets hear the reviews! + the price


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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2016, 12:14:12 PM »
I payed 39 USD for this 128gb KingSpec SSD including shipping. Can't review it since I don't have SATA card in the MDD yet

I have a KingSpec PATA SSD (not DOM) in my TiBook and it has worked fine for the past year with more or less daily use, so I don't see any reason why this wont do in the MDD.

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2016, 04:47:35 PM »
various SATA harddrives, optical drives and raid enclosures.
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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2016, 04:57:54 PM »
@Knezzen:  Would you be able to take a physical length measurement on your Ti card for me?  I want to know how long it is without the extra blank extension part of the PCB.

Sorry for the late reply.
Without the extension (end of components): 225mm
Full length of the card: 311mm

  Wow, it's much longer than I expected.  The limit in the Xserve is about 190mm, which is the length of the Radeon X800 in my other Xserve.  Even at that the tail of the card ducks under the air guide and over the edge of the CPU board.

  Thanks for that, though!  It's still good information for future reference.

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2016, 08:10:00 PM »
The last things I got are an 128GB SSD, which works well inside my 9600 as the G4s. The other important thing for daily usage was my mechanical Cherry keyboard "MX-Board 3.0 Brown". It is a great keyboard, but I am still sad, that I have no possibility to switch the Command and the Alt keys internally (means by software - the matrix).

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2016, 12:03:06 PM »
Scrooge here hasn't bought anything for at least a couple of years. I'm better at rescuing kit from the skip :)

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2016, 05:19:47 AM »
As you may have seen, my last purchase was a PowerBook G4 Titanium logic board with 867 MHz. It was about 20$ plus 26$ for shipping  :-\

In the Future I may need to buy a SSD drive  ;)

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2016, 06:46:28 AM »
In the Future I may need to buy a SSD drive  ;)

I have one in my TiBook. The best investment ever for it. Just a generic KingSpec PATA SSD from eBay. Has worked flawlessly for over a year now. :)

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2016, 04:39:22 AM »
In the Future I may need to buy a SSD drive  ;)

I have one in my TiBook. The best investment ever for it. Just a generic KingSpec PATA SSD from eBay. Has worked flawlessly for over a year now. :)

I replaced my hard drive now. Not with a SSD but with a 7200 RPM HDD (Seagate Momentous 7200.1) for about 50€. Maybe its not as fast as a SSD but its about twice as fast as the old 4600 RPM HDD.

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2016, 04:53:19 AM »
Forgot that this thread exists...

Ironically the week after I got my new Sil3112 based card from max1zzz I stumbled upon a 64bit FirmTek SeriTek/1v4 on ebay. Got it for 75 euro plus shipping. It got shipped from Italy today, so I hope it arrives before next weekend :)

I wonder if the performance will be improved or if it's more or less the same (because of my slow and cheap SSD).

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2016, 07:40:16 AM »
Knez,


Please compare tests and post results after you check out the new card :)

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2016, 08:39:26 AM »
Knez,


Please compare tests and post results after you check out the new card :)

Will do :)

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2016, 12:15:01 PM »
I were waiting for the "summer payout" and I throwed the house thru the windows (spanish refrán for spending out all the sallary.  ;D

I bought another MDD 867 dual for 50 bucks on october. (My 3rd G4 dual)

Years ago I bought (by mistake) an Seritek 2SE4 (for Tiger and up  :-[ ). I just ordered the eSATA to SATA cables to test it.

Also ordered last week 2 ATA to SATA converters. I've run out enough > 40Gig 7200rpm  drives for my G4 farm and my hackintosh is refusing < 1 Tb drives, so some 500 gig drives would go to my PowerPC hardware.

The 4th thing is an Original M-Box (My 4th PowerPC Protools LE system after 2 001 and a AM III) that I got last week on eBay for 15 pounds. It will be shared between my "new" MDD and my GMA950 HackBook with 10.5.8 and 10.6.8.

I plan to use the new MDD with the Sonorus STUDI/O in a Mac OS 9 boot, but really curious about how a M-Box&Leopard with the Seritek 2SE4, Protools 8.0.1 and Logic 9.0.2 performs just because I never had PowerPC DAWs past Panther or PowerPC Protools LE > 6.4
Looking for MacOS 9.2.4

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2016, 12:25:57 PM »

I plan to use the new MDD with the Sonorus STUDI/O in a Mac OS 9 boot, but really curious about how a M-Box&Leopard with the Seritek 2SE4, Protools 8.0.1 and Logic 9.0.2 performs just because I never had PowerPC DAWs past Panther or PowerPC Protools LE > 6.4

Never tried Logic > 7 on PowerPC too

The SATA approach will step-up my G4 farm
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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2016, 08:12:57 AM »

I throwed the house thru the windows

I like that... and I'm quite familiar with the procedure!! ;D ;D

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2017, 04:27:28 PM »
A 256KB cache module for my 7200/90 Power Mac.

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2017, 04:44:15 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D
HA HA 
 IT S TRUE   
 that we don't continue to buy things for 
but  isn't it a good thing? 
  a spare pci 324 motu in case of pb   
 have bought  another  g4 in spare  in case  also 
(that works  a little bit every week  to be sure 
and  i m searching  for a second  miditimepiece  in spare  in case also 
and probably if i see motu interface   2408 or 1224  i will continue to buy them  because  they sound better than  the last  motu interface   
sorry to say it 
but it s true
it sounds terrible  the rme  and the motu  1224 and the metric halo  2882  sounds  musical  and natural
i bought also  a dp 9  for the macbook pro  i use just for mastering and sending by internet the job :)
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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2017, 12:07:52 PM »
Hmmm, that would be a Sonnet Serial ATA adapter and two SATA drives (each 500GB).

Pulling out of the case would be a Sonnet SCSI adapter and two SCSI drives. Man that MDD is way more quiet now.

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2017, 02:53:08 PM »
...and probably if i see motu interface   2408 or 1224  i will continue to buy them  because  they sound better than  the last  motu interface, sorry to say it, but it s true

As I have also stated Here
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,671.msg2010.html#msg2010

The converters in the 1224 are unique and very musical and warm compared to other older Motu units;  My 2004 "Live Rack" consisted on a QS G4 with (3) 1224 since I got slightly better Bass response and fatter drums than using the 24i (which is my 2nd favorite sounding)

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2017, 12:22:57 AM »
An A-HARD 66 pci card for my Yikes! G4

By the way, I love this thread :)

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2017, 02:57:46 PM »
Kinda funny our computers are better made than our cars and are disposable far more quickly.

Just bought a 250mg Zip Drive ( yeah, I know ) to replace the 100megger that burned out his capacitor.

Two years ago me bought a 3T FW Fantom for backup/creation.

Yesterday gave me another 1T from Fantom to backup the 3T. I know; sounds backwards. "Forward, into The Past".

Not smelling smoke yet, so all's well.

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #40 on: March 25, 2017, 09:57:21 PM »
Sonnet Crescendo G3 Card.

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2017, 12:17:00 AM »
44pin KingSpec 16gb PATA DOM drive and a Lucent WaveLAN Gold 802.11b card for my PowerBook G3 Kanga. I absolutely love that machine, but it's in desperate need of more RAM to be really useful (32mb doesn't get you far when using Classilla). It's awesome either way :)

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Re: What's the last thing you bought for your PowerPC Macs?
« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2017, 01:37:17 AM »
As of just a few hours ago for my MDD FW800 DP 1.25 Ghz:

1. New Noctua fans for both the power supply and the main case. One quiet machine now!

2. 3 and 4 pin to molex power supply lines for said fans.

3. Apple DVI to HDMI adapter--to run my DVI 23" Cinema Display. Sure, I still have a beautiful 23" ADC display, just not enough room on my desk for both it and the 34" IPS LED monitor.

4. IDE to SATA adapter, so I can use my extra 500GB SSD.

5. Extra Noctua fan to add at some point, which will take a mod of the case to do. Would love to put it above the heat sink given Apple's poor cooling decisions with this MDD--- and have it blow OUT of the case.