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Migrating Vision 1.4 files to Logic Pro X via Studio Vision on Mac OS9.
GaryN:
After all you've been through here, I would be the last one to consider you a "quitter". Anything but!
My best assessment now:
There's something not kosher with the Proteus driver and its relationship with the current setup. The OMS 2.3.8 Proteus fail is indicating a compatibility issue that wouldn't BE an issue if any of the software involved was being maintained and updated. The problem would have reared its head and Opcode would have fixed it in an update.
My best wild guess is SVP PPC, and / or OMS 2.++ which didn't exist before OS 8 ( or thereabouts - not sure, but definitely not during OS7 ) are having issues locating or interfacing with all old things Proteus from system 7. There's probably nothing you can do to fix that.
Oh well…
Nah, just kidding. Let's simplify here. You're just trying to export recorded MIDI data to a SMF to move to a new app. You don't need the actual Proteus stuff working or anything, really - just the data, and you can actually open the files in the SVP demo - SO…
Assuming the save operation works in the demo:
Why don't you open them, change the instruments to something else NOT Proteus and as simple as possible, then resave the file as a different copy, and try opening THAT in SVP. Maybe that will work. If it wants to change the instruments to match the current setup, let it. All that's going to do is match the tracks to whatever's currently on that MIDI channel. It may ask you to locate patch files that no longer exist. Just cancel your way through all of that. Again, you don't care what the instrument actually IS, you just want the MIDI in a SMF. You can always change names back later in Logic. Your objective is to just get the MIDI out.
If THAT doesn't work…
Then there's the last resort idea you had… If you have the Mac Classic and interface etc. and can run the old files on it, maybe you can resort to playing the files out to the other computer in real time and re-recording them. Yeah, that would be a pain in the ass - that's why it's the last resort, but it will work if nothing else does.
Good luck, holler back.
supernova777:
cant u install Vision 1.4 on mac os 8.6 or 9.x ?
i heard from someone that u could do this.. in fact im pretty sure the installer file is on the board here somewhere
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2368.0
i documented that this version is from 1993 in the above thread..
ok maybe im mistaken..
and its vision 1.02 that was posted here
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2132.0
would locating a copy of 1.4 help?
if it was possible to install + run 1.02 it must be possible to do the same with 1.4
i also documented that there was a version 1.4 for windows 3.1 aswell
http://www.oldschooldaw.com/forums/index.php?topic=520.0
heres an ebay auction that lists vision 1.4 on 2 3.5" floppies
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Opcode-Vision-Galaxy-OMS-software-on-3-5-floppy-disks-MIDI-sequencer-for-Mac-/141711926113
SuperFred:
Hi Guys,
Thanks again for following up!
Chris, I set up a saved search on ebay to watch for Vision 1.4 install disks.
I do have install disk 1 (of 2) of Vision 1.4 so if I can get my MacClassic operating, I think I can get Vision 1.4 to launch. If my old machine won’t operate (the capacitors were flaking out last time I tested it) I am not sure if I’ll be able to get it to install on another machine with just one disk or due to install counts or something. Maybe I could swap hard drives with another machine or something. :-\
Gary, unfortunately, the save functions don’t work in the Demo. :(
Although one more idea popped in my head. I installed OMS 2.x.x (i can't remember the version exactly but it is not the most recent and comes as a part of the demo installer and then replaced the demo app with SVP PPC.
When I tried to install OMS 2.3.8 it fails as I mentioned.
That said, I did manage to install 2.3.8 on my Mid 2010 “27 iMac running sheepshaver. I wonder if I could delete everything OMS manually from my G3 and then manually pick all of the parts out of the sheepshaver install and then transfer them via a Firewire external drive and manually install OMS 2.3.8 by putting each component in by hand.
Sounds fragile and likely to screw something up...but what are weekends for? ;)
Thanks again guys. I'll keep you posted.
K
GaryN:
This is nuts!
There's not one really good reason I can think of why this should be happening.
I'll tell you what, I'm willing to try this if you're OK with it: Stuff one of these *)^# files AND one of the "no problem" ones into a .sit and send them to me.
Let's see what happens on my system. either it will just work fine or it won't, but at least I'll have a better view of all this.
Either way maybe we'll learn something…?
Send to: Gary@Opcodesupport ha ha (Don't you wish?)
To: [email protected]
SuperFred:
Hi Gary,
Thanks for being so generous.
So I copped out. I got ahold of a stable Mac Classic II running Mac OS 6.0.8L. Hooked up an old Macman Midiman serial interface to a Proteus.
I installed OMS 1.1.3 from old floppies.
Installed Vision 1.4 and......
It works AND opens the problem files.
Who knows?
But again, thanks for your generosity. I will email you one of the problem files just for fun, but don't worry, I will now be working through the 260 plus files and exporting the 10-12 sequences in each of them until...well who knows when. I'll also send you a picture of the scene of the crime. :-)
Thanks again,
K
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