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This is a compilation of stuff you need to get up and running with your very own Pro Tools 24|MIX system!

You will need the following parts:

*At least one MIX Core PCI card
This is the Core of the system (well, duh?).
Contains six (6) Motorola 56k DSP's and the hardware dongle in order to get Pro Tools TDM running. The basic MIX 24 system only concists of this PCI card.



*Any number of MIX Farm PCI cards (optional)
This is what you use to expand your TDM system.
A MIX PLUS system is a MIX Core and MIX Farm card together.
MIX Farm card is exactly like the MIX Core card, but does NOT contain the Pro Tools dongle, just the six (6) DSP's. You can use up to 10 cards in one MIX 24 system, with the last 3 of them being DSP Farm cards. You can also have multiple MIX Core cards together if you get some cheaply. Only the Core card located at the first PCI-slot will be used as the dongle, the rest of the Core cards will act like Farm cards.

If you stumble upon a load of DSP Farm cards (Digidesigns high-end system before the 24|MIX) these will work with the system as well, but are less powerful than the MIX Farm and MIX Core cards.
Use only if you stumble upon them for next to nothing or you get them for free.



*Ribbon cable to connect all the cards with each other (optional)
If you have more than one card, you need this little ribbon cable.
Can be found easily for around $20USD on ebay. There are 2-connector, 5-connector and 10-connector versions of this cable avalible. Buy the 5-connector version directly, even if you only have two cards. Makes is more easy to upgrade the systems with more MIX Farm cards later on.



*An A/D interface
This is what connects you to the analog world. Comes in a 1RU or 2RU cases, the ADAT Bridge, 882, and 888.
ADAT bridge has optical in and out capable of 16 ins and 16outs using external preamps.
The others have 8 ins and 8 outs and internal preamps, but the 888 has balanced XLR connections.

There are allso different versions of these. The original ADAT Bridge, 882 and 888 can be used at the most for 48khz and 16bit sound. The 882/20 for 48khz and 20bit sound (works in 24bit projects too) and the 888/24 and ADAT Bridge/24 for 48khz and 24bit sound.
So what you want is the 882/20 or 888/24. Perhaps the ADAT Bridge/24 if you allready have preams or a digital mixer with optical in and out.

Two of these boxes can be used with every MIX Core or MIX Farm card, for a total of 24 rack boxes, 192 ins and 192 outs if you have 12 cards. Pretty much endless expandability. The ADAT Bridge takes up both connectors on each card using a Y cable, since it supports 16 in and 16 out using external preamps.



*Cables
You need a single and a "Y" cable depending on how many A/D boxes you want to use with each card. It's a special digidesign cable and can be found very easily on ebay. Every card can take one ADAT Bridge or two A/D boxes using a "Y" cable, making a total of 16 ins and 16 outs per card.


*Software
This is the hardest part. You need at least Pro Tools 4.1, but recommended is of course the last OS9 version, which is 5.1.3. You can use your 24|MIX system with OSX Panther and Pro Tools 6.4.1 if you feel like that too, but the plugins are not compatible and need a hardware look (iLok), so 5.1.3 is the best option. TDM plugins are accelerated, but RTAS plugins can be used on the host CPU at the same time as well. It's pretty hard to find this software. I have it and will upload it very soon.



That's pretty much all you need. The cons of this system is that you really need to know what you need since you have allmost endless expandability. It's also pretty difficult to find a "turnkey" system, so you are better off collecting all the parts individually from ebay or craigslist (or a similliar site). The pro's are the expandability, stabillity, sound quality and DSP-power.

« Last Edit: November 19, 2014, 06:27:36 AM by Knezzen »

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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2014, 12:10:58 PM »
Well, of course the 1622 as well, and there where some third party interfaces as well that supported the digi-connector (like the Apogee AD8000, http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug98/articles/apogee.html http://www.fullcompass.com/common/files/140-ApogeeAD8000ProductBrochure.pdf).


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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2014, 01:55:37 PM »
What is a Digidesign Avid Project Disk I/O PCI Card able to do? Just RTAS and no TDM but TDM interfaces?
It seems to have "old" and "modern" conectors



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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2014, 06:34:56 PM »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENeYnkp3RrY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENeYnkp3RrY</a>
jump to 4:20 on the video

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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2014, 07:25:44 AM »
Hello,

You tell that is possible to run 1 mix core and 11 mix farms but i saw everywhere that only 1 core and 6 mix farms can run together.
Did you test to run pro tools 6.4.1 with 1 core and 11 mix farms?

I have a 13 slots Magma expansion chassis, 1 mix core, 6 mix farms and 5 dsp farms and i'm looking for a 12 node ribbon cable. Can somebody tell me where i can find one because i don't find one?

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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2014, 06:24:42 AM »
Hello,

You tell that is possible to run 1 mix core and 11 mix farms but i saw everywhere that only 1 core and 6 mix farms can run together.
Did you test to run pro tools 6.4.1 with 1 core and 11 mix farms?

I have a 13 slots Magma expansion chassis, 1 mix core, 6 mix farms and 5 dsp farms and i'm looking for a 12 node ribbon cable. Can somebody tell me where i can find one because i don't find one?

Thank you

The text is wrong. It should say 10 and not 11.

You can officially have 7 MIX cards and 3 DSP Farm cards running at the same time in a Magma chassis.
The DSP Farm's should be the last 3 cards if you have 10 cards in total.

I know of a friend that successfully used 10 MIX cards at the same time, but it seems like it's up to the specific system you're using if it will work or not.

I myself are using 7 MIX cards right now in the studio. It has been running stable the last year or so with no issues what so ever. Im planning on sourcing 3 DSP Farm cards for the system as well, so I can use the maximum 10 cards.

So go for 10 cards, and get 3 DSP Farms as well, if you want to stay true to the Digidesign supported card combination :)

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Re: Buying a used Pro Tools 24|MIX system? Here's what you need to know!
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2014, 11:41:30 PM »
Can I use more than 1 mix core cards in my system?
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2014, 03:17:26 AM »
Can I use more than 1 mix core cards in my system?
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Yes! The first core card will be the core card, the rest will act as farm cards.
I currently have 3 core card in my mix system.


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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2014, 03:34:38 PM »
Whats the best way to hook up hardware inserts with a tdm when mixing?
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2014, 05:57:40 AM »
Whats the best way to hook up hardware inserts with a tdm when mixing?

I have mine hooked up to a couple of 882/20's.
OUT from the 882 to IN on your hardware (effect, compressor etc).
OUT from the hardware effect to IN on the 882.

The easiest way to do it is to use the same number output and input on the Pro Tools interface (in 1 and out 1 etc) to the same hardware effect.

When the wiring is done, use "I/O Setup" and the "Inserts" tab to define what's plugged in where.
When this is done your hardware should pop up in the same menu as your TDM and RTAS plugins.


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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2014, 07:35:05 AM »
So since my compressor uses 1/4 and the 888/24 uses xlr would an adapter work? No signal voltage differences? I'm using the pro vla compressor/limiter. I'm used to using standard insert trs cables with my fca1616.
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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2014, 08:47:21 AM »
Maybe you can wire the compressor to the 1622 digidesign interface.
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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2014, 09:55:00 AM »
So since my compressor uses 1/4 and the 888/24 uses xlr would an adapter work? No signal voltage differences? I'm using the pro vla compressor/limiter. I'm used to using standard insert trs cables with my fca1616.
1/4 conectors can be balanced or unbalanced. A jack mono is unbalanced. With a stereo TRS to XLR you keep the signal balanced.
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2014, 11:01:19 AM »
Maybe you can wire the compressor to the 1622 digidesign interface.

That was my first thought but the 1622 has only two outputs would be kind of limited.
TRS to XLR it is I guess. I try to always use balanced.
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« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2014, 04:22:24 AM »
So since my compressor uses 1/4 and the 888/24 uses xlr would an adapter work? No signal voltage differences? I'm using the pro vla compressor/limiter. I'm used to using standard insert trs cables with my fca1616.

No difference. If you use balanced cables, your signal is balanced. If you don't, it's not.
You won't have any issues. There are no voltage differences at all, it's just different connectors.

I would pick up a couple of 882/20's on eBay for outboards. It's the most convenient way of doing it.

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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2015, 04:01:08 PM »
Thank you Knezzen for your reply.
At this time i have a 7 node ribbon cable so i'm looking for a 10 node ribbon cable but it's impossible to find it!
Can you tell me where i can find this very rare 10 node ribbon cable?
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2015, 06:55:17 PM »
I believe protools5leguy told me there was someone who was making them at one time. I've only seen one on ebay so far.
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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2015, 12:31:07 AM »
I make them, I just need connectors. Im going through a though period unfortunately so I don't have a lot of motivation to do anything.

Will do a "quick n' dirty" tutorial about making the ribbon cable and post it in the forum.

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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2015, 06:45:29 AM »
That would be GREAT Knezzen! Plan on loading up a 7 slot chassis at some point and you don't see the 8 node cables around much either!

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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2015, 12:23:28 AM »
Hallo  :D
Im a new member and trying to building a 888/24 system with protools TDM 5.1.3.
got Magma 13slot chassi, mixcore.mixfarm,psdcards and some cables.

A friend gave me a mac g3 white/blue tower 350mhz 256mb of ram.
Got no skills on macs so
My question is
fastest mac for the setup that works ?
Regards Robban
 

 
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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2015, 01:05:28 AM »
Fastest 'stock' OS9 Mac would be the MDD 1.25 and for PT the single processor model is recommended. The QS 933 is also highly regarded, as it's almost as powerful and quieter than MDD.

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« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2015, 02:26:51 AM »
Hello 9DSP

I have a G4 (model M8570 EMC 1914) with firewire 800, 2 Go RAM, NVIDIA Ge Force 4600 Ti graphic card and a SSD 32 Go for the operating system and the softwares. I replaced the original processor (2*1,25Ghz) by a Sonnet Encore / MDX G4 Duet 2*1.8Ghz for Power Mac G4 MDD.
For Pro Tools, I have a Digidesign expansion chassis 13 slots with inside 1 Mix Core, 6 Mix Farms and 3 DSP Farms

It's the fastest rig for Pro Tools 5.1.3 TDM that you can have and it runs like a charm !

If you want this machine to run with Mac os 9.2.2 you have to :

1. For the firmware, the Sonnet cpu needs Boot Rom 4.4.8f2 or higher. On my machine, it's 4.5.7f1
2. Install Mac OS 9 for unsupported systems
3. You have to replace the Mac OS ROM 10.2.1 with Macintosh ROM 10.2.1v1 "Generic", you can find it here (with an extension called Insomnia):
https://www.thinkclassic.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4504#p4504
4. You have to replace the "Apple CPU Plug-ins" extension with this extension in:
System/System Folder/Extensions/Multiprocessing
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2015, 02:13:03 AM »
Thanks !
I try my 350mhz g3 first with the system  ;)
And try to get a hand on a cheap faster g4 singel  :)

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and protools 5.1.1.

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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2015, 01:07:33 AM »
the g3 system will obvious cap out much sooner then the above system detaled by unsonic which seems to be the best of the best u could ever have! and the 350 g3 system is probably about the worst/starting area that u would want to even try with ;) but still should work fine albeit without the same muscle

good luck u guys!

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« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2015, 01:08:54 PM »
I will try to find a faster g4 with same spec  :)
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and protools 5.1.1.

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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2015, 02:13:01 PM »
I found a "MDD" Power Mac G4 dual 1.25ghz with 1mb ram/cpu for about 50dollar here in sweden :)
is there a way to overclock this machine ?
around 1.47ghz


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1 mixcorecard 
wait its more :-)
2x creamware pulsar card will be mounted in my magma chassi.
and protools 5.1.1.

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« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2015, 06:13:11 PM »
Sounds like a good deal! Don't know anything about overclocking but as is should be a good machine for your PT rig! ;D

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« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2015, 09:37:25 PM »
I found a "MDD" Power Mac G4 dual 1.25ghz with 1mb ram/cpu for about 50dollar here in sweden :)
is there a way to overclock this machine ?
around 1.47ghz

i would add some more ram and later worry about the cpu :D

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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2015, 08:19:49 AM »
I found a "MDD" Power Mac G4 dual 1.25ghz with 1mb ram/cpu for about 50dollar here in sweden :)
is there a way to overclock this machine ?
around 1.47ghz

This 1.25 Ghz modules can easily be overclocked up to 1.5 Ghz  *usually* . But the best option is the 1.33 Single ( with 2 Mb of L3 cache from xServe) overclocked to 1.5.

Do a forum search about those topics ...

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« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2015, 09:42:41 AM »
1,5ghz sounds nice,  i will read more about it :D
More memory   :D
I buy working 2xG5 for 110 dollar yesterday
All slots are full of 256mb and 1gb ram :)
So i put in 1.25GB 333mhz ram in the G4.
And it works super.
The old gentlemen that sold me the G4, gave me 2x120GB 2,5" sata harddrives in a bag :)
Maby i only use 1 of the G5 and put more stuff in the G4

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Magma pci 13slot expansion
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wait its more :-)
2x creamware pulsar card will be mounted in my magma chassi.
and protools 5.1.1.

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« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2015, 11:06:06 AM »
You'll have to use the G4 for your 'old school' PT rig as the G5 won't run OS9/PT 5.1. ... also the SATA drives won't plug directly into the G4 as they use IDE.

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« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2015, 10:53:14 AM »
See that now :)
mounted 4x 512mb= 2GB of ram.
And i have a hole box of old HD`s, so i
Going to install the 9.2.1 on a 80GB ide to start with   :)
 
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1 mixcorecard 
wait its more :-)
2x creamware pulsar card will be mounted in my magma chassi.
and protools 5.1.1.

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« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2015, 01:04:14 PM »
9dsp: Where in Sweden are you? Im also in Sweden and have some stuff that might interest you :)

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« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2015, 03:49:00 PM »
9dsp: Where in Sweden are you? Im also in Sweden and have some stuff that might interest you :)

im right around the corner what you got for me ? :)

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« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2015, 02:10:45 AM »
Hallo Knezzen !

Send a PM to you  :D

yesterday I installed OSX and 4GB ram on my new G5, first 10.5.6 and then update to 10.5.8
first an SSD drive,, did not work  :o
so 2x230GB 3,5" sata is mounted.
G4:
the adaptec uw scsi interface stop the boot order :-(
i dont know how to install the card ?
it working on the G3 after flashing  :)

My G4 fans sounds 100% terrible so i must fix that.
The OS 9.2.2 works but i dont understand it  ::)
a lot of effort to get this masterpice of system
 to work when i  know zero of mac  :D
But when it all works i will be a very happy mac user   ;)
Have a nice sunday !


 




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2 mixfarmcard
1 mixcorecard 
wait its more :-)
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« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2015, 03:23:01 AM »
I have a couple of MIX cards, a Magma chassis, some Digidesign 882/20 and 888 (16bit) laying around that I don't use. I thought I would build myself another MIX system, but I find myself spending more time in Logic, so I wont need it.

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« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2015, 11:48:48 PM »
anyone know if standard db60 crossover cables would work to connect a 1622 to a mix card???


https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/446350-protools-mix-digilink-cable-connectors-pinouts.html
« Last Edit: December 13, 2015, 02:22:56 AM by custos »
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« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2016, 08:24:48 AM »
Madi/AES interface for Mix - Euphonix FC727



http://connect.euphonix.com/documents/FC_OpMan_FC727_r1_3.pdf


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« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2016, 09:35:16 AM »
interesting box! ;D

 

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  • torvan: Don't you scratch your head when you take things apart how you got four extra screws left over?
    November 06, 2016, 03:48:25 PM
  • torvan: When you put it back together that is.
    November 06, 2016, 03:48:52 PM
  • mrhappy: Spare parts!!
    November 08, 2016, 01:35:31 AM
  • suburbGira: asdfasdfasdf
    November 09, 2016, 09:05:50 AM
  • suburbGira: __       ____      __     _______  __________     ____       ______    _     ___   )  ____)  (_    _) |    \     /  \         )   (    )  ____)     )  / |    \    /  /  __     |  |   |     )   /    \       /     \  (  (___      /  /  |     )  (  (  (  \    |  |   |    /   /  ()  \     (       )  \___  \    /  /   |  __/    \  \__)  )  _|  |_  | |\ \  |   __   |     \     /   ____)  )  /  /    | |      __)      (__(      )_| |_\ \_|  (__)  |______)   (___(      (__/  (_____| |_____
    November 09, 2016, 09:06:12 AM
  • suburbGira: __       ____      __     _______  __________     ____       ______    _     ___   )  ____)  (_    _) |    \     /  \         )   (    )  ____)     )  / |    \    /  /  __     |  |   |     )   /    \       /     \  (  (___      /  /  |     )  (  (  (  \    |  |   |    /   /  ()  \     (       )  \___  \    /  /   |  __/    \  \__)  )  _|  |_  | |\ \  |   __   |     \     /   ____)  )  /  /    | |      __)      (__(      )_| |_\ \_|  (__)  |______)   (___(      (__/  (_____| |_______       ____      __     _______  __________     ____       ______    _     ___   )  ____)  (_    _) |    \     /  \         )   (    )  ____)     )  / |    \    /  /  __     |  |   |     )   /    \       /     \  (  (___      /  /  |     )  (  (  (  \    |  |   |    /   /  ()  \     (       )  \___  \    /  /   |  __/    \  \__)  )  _|  |_  | |\ \  |   __   |     \     /   ____)  )  /  /    | |      __)      (__(      )_| |_\ \_|  (__)  |______)   (___(      (__/  (_____| |_______       ____      __     _______  __________     ____       ______    _     ___   )  ____)  (_    _) |    \     /  \         )   (    )  ____)     )  / |    \    /  /  __     |  |   |     )   /    \       /     \  (  (___      /  /  |     )  (  (  (  \    |  |   |    /   /  ()  \     (       )  \___  \    /  /   |  __/    \  \__)  )  _|  |_  | |\ \  |   __   |     \     /   ____)  )  /  /    | |      __)      (__(      )_| |_\ \_|  (__)  |______)   (___(      (__/  (_____| |_______       ____      __     _______  __________     ____       ______    _     ___   )  ____)  (_    _) |    \     /  \         )   (    )  ____)     )  / |    \    /  /  __     |  |   |     )   /    \       /     \  (  (___      /  /  |     )  (  (  (  \    |  |   |    /   /  ()  \     (       )  \___  \    /  /   |  __/    \  \__)  )  _|  |_  | |\ \  |   __   |     \     /   ____)  )  /  /    | |      __)      (__(      )_| |_\ \_|  (__)  |______)   (___(      (__/  (_____| |_______       ____      __     _______  __________     ____       ______    _     ___   )  ____)  (_    _) |    \     /  \         )   (    )  ____)     )  / |    \    /  /  __     |  |   |     )   /    \       /     \  (  (___      /  /  |     )  (  (  (  \    |  |   |    /   /  ()  \     (       )  \___  \    /  /   |  __/    \  \__)  )  _|  |_  | |\ \  |   __   |     \     /   ____)  )  /  /    | |      __)      (__(      )_| |_\ \_|  (__)  |______)   (___(      (__/  (_____| |_______       ____      __     _______  __________     ____       ______    _     ___   )  ____)  (_    _) |    \     /  \         )   (    )  ____)     )  / |    \    /  /  __     |  |   |     )   /    \       /     \  (  (___      /  /  |     )  (  (  (  \    |  |   |    /   /  ()  \     (       )  \___  \    /  /   |  __/    \  \__)  )  _|  |_  | |\ \  |   __   |     \     /   ____)  )  /  /    | |      __)      (__(      )_| |_\ \_|  (__)  |______)   (___(      (__/  (_____| |_______       ____      __     _______  __________     ____       ______    _     ___   )  ____)  (_    _) |    \     /  \         )   (    )  ____)     )  / |    \    /  /  __     |  |   |     )   /    \       /     \  (  (___      /  /  |     )  (  (  (  \    |  |   |    /   /  ()  \     (       )  \___  \    /  /   |  __/    \  \__)  )  _|  |_  | |\ \  |   __   |     \     /   ____)  )  /  /    | |      __)      (__(      )_| |_\ \_|  (__)  |______)   (___(      (__/  (_____| |_______       ____      __     _______  __________     ____       ______    _     ___   )  ____)  (_    _) |    \     /  \         )   (    )  ____)     )  / |    \    /  /  __     |  |   |     )   /    \       /     \  (  (___      /  /  |     )  (  (  (  \    |  |   |    /   /  ()  \     (       )  \___  \    /  /   |  __/    \  \__)  )  _|  |_  | |\ \  |   __   |     \     /   ____)  )  /  /    | |      __)      (__(      )_| |_\ \_|  (__)  |______)   (___(      (__/  (_____| |_____
    November 09, 2016, 09:06:21 AM
  • Miro Le Ravi: mas 2.&
    November 15, 2016, 03:07:25 PM
  • Miro Le Ravi: waves 2.8
    November 17, 2016, 04:47:58 PM
  • MusicWorks: Yamaha
    December 09, 2016, 05:59:01 AM
  • s0s: Hi everybody! - Dr. Nick
    December 31, 2016, 02:46:28 PM
  • Protools5LEGuy: [link]
    February 05, 2017, 11:48:47 PM
  • Protools5LEGuy: If you have a Large Image (Over 300 Pixels in Width or Height) then, Please use the following:
    February 05, 2017, 11:49:03 PM
  • mrhappy: Oh I see... the link was a 'prequel' to last quick message. ;D
    February 07, 2017, 06:33:39 AM
  • Dogcow: g'day folks
    February 07, 2017, 05:48:51 PM
  • 9Teen90Nine: Another year with Mac OS 9! :D
    February 14, 2017, 06:38:02 AM

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