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belzrebuth

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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2016, 10:11:10 AM »

I've tried all 3 different DVD-R drives I have and neither is working.

I think they're much newer (2007 or so) so that may contribute to their incompatibility with the G4.
2 of them are the same ;LG multi DVD-RW drives and the other one I didn't bother to check.

Tried setting them as master first and then tried with no jumpers at all but no luck.

I've then tried two 2 cd-rw drives (manufacture dates: 2002 and 2003) and both worked okay so I may be going with one of those for the time being.

I don't think I'll ever need DVD for anything other than data transferring which is a lot easier with flash drives anyways although I wouldn't mind having the option to burn a DVD if needed.

Oh well..

CD-R is good enough for now..

@sOs Yeah I don't like keeping others' stuff either but sometimes legit software is hard to get hold of  especially with older machines.
In my case the software installed was pretty much mainstream/standard so I've already found what I've deleted at the sites mentioned above.
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2016, 11:08:16 AM »

use toast - and find most opticals drives will work.
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2016, 11:18:59 AM »

Yes, toast shows if an optical drive that has the ability to write is installed.
Since the drives I tried were shown as "unknown" on the system profiler I didn't bother going further.

I'll retry with toast to check if it recognizes anything.

Thanks for the tip!
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2016, 01:45:42 AM »

I'm probably getting 2 x 512mb sdram soon in order to max out the machine.

Is there any way (diagnostic utility) to test the ram modules (something like memtest) ?

It would be a good idea to test my existing memory as well..
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2016, 02:43:58 PM »

Is there any way (diagnostic utility) to test the ram modules (something like memtest) ?
What's wrong with memtest?
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2016, 03:01:26 PM »

Nothing's wrong with memtest!

But I have no clue on how to use it on the powermac.
Maybe I'm missing something..

I've burned an ubuntu ppc iso to a disk but when I boot from it I get no test memory option.
I only got terminal and then when I type "live" it warns me about graphics etc.It starts X but stucks somewhere warning me about not supporting something..

I'm downloading debian for ppc right now but I don't have any other blank disks at hand so I'll have to wait until tomorrow to get some.

There's also this and I think I've used it before on a powerbook but it's OSX only.

I may try to find a Tiger install disk and run AHT..

I know there's no need to be paranoid about it since the system boots fine but it could prove useful to have a way to test my ram regardless..
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2016, 06:10:33 PM »

But I have no clue on how to use it on the powermac.
Maybe I'm missing something..

All you're missing is memtest for Mac.

Now you're not.
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2016, 04:00:27 AM »

Thanks Gary but I think I've already seen that..

So can it work on OS 9.2.2 / is it bootable?

I've attached the link to its website in my above post where it states:

"Memtest 4.22 is a universal binary for use with PowerPC and Intel Macs running MacOS X versions 10.3 through 10.6.8. The download package contains a single executable universal binary for both PPC and Intel-based Macs. Version 4.22 corrects a minor cosmetic issue when running under Leopard."

I thought it was for 10.3 and above..
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2016, 03:10:56 PM »

Oops… sorry. I remembered us talking about dual-booting and I mixed you up with someone else.

That said, I don't know of any RAM testing app for OS9 and below.
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2016, 09:01:22 PM »

I downloaded that file but found it is password protected.
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2016, 10:51:10 PM »

I downloaded that file but found it is password protected.

Uhhh… No, it isn't.
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2017, 06:21:17 PM »

That's what OS X said when I attempted to mount the image.
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2017, 04:17:29 PM »

Are you talking about the attached file I put up 6 posts ago?
It's a .dmg of a folder containing all of the memtest-for-Mac files which are GNU open-source and definitely not password protected in any way.
Just to be sure, I downloaded it myself on both 10.5 and 10.11 without any problems.

Maybe you should try again.
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2017, 08:46:56 AM »

it is password protected on machines other than yours.
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2017, 08:55:49 AM »

It's password protected here as well, tried on 3 different machines.
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2017, 04:01:53 PM »

OK…here's a puzzle challenge for all you resident geniuses.

1) I downloaded that memtest dmg long ago from somewhere I can't remember exactly but it was a Sourceforge or similar. It was not locked or protected in any way.

2) I saved the dmg exactly as i received it. It is that file, unaltered that I uploaded to the forum.

3) Since you all started having issues with it, I tested it myself. I have now downloaded it with 10.4, 10.5, 10.6 and 10.11 each one on different computers and it mounts right up.

4) It will not mount in OS9 or below. It needs 10.3 or better.

My only guess is that our Forum app caused / is causing the problem somehow and I don't see it because I'm the one who uploaded it.

Here's another upload AND I'm also uploading it to my Mediafire here: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/fngx396xqwylq/Documents

Let's see what happens.
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2017, 08:06:28 AM »

i dont trust either side. ^^
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2017, 08:12:23 AM »

what happens when you download it when logged out from the forums?
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2017, 04:38:12 PM »

what happens when you download it when logged out from the forums?
Tried that. Attachments to postings don't appear unless you're logged in.
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Re: Just got a Power Mac G4 !
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2017, 05:09:46 PM »

The 2496 came today!

I installed the driver supplied here although I didn't do anything with the ASIO files provided.

The card shows up as AP17.
Ableton can't see it though.

In Ableton properties I  can only select between "no sound" or "sound manager" and it just plays back from the internal speaker.

I believe I haven't properly installed the drivers..
I haven't used the DAW restore images ;I installed Ableton manually..

EDIT:I've put the ASIO2 file from the folder above into the Ableton folder and now it works.
Should I put the ASIO drivers in elsewhere too,to be able to use the card with other programs/regular audio playback?

Should I have used the ASIO3 file instead?
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