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General Hardware Discussions / Re: Little updates about PCI USB Card
« Last post by IIO on May 30, 2020, 05:58:52 AM »
i like it too, but i believe that i only like it because i am used to it for some 26 years.

there are a lot af arguments against it, his USB problem is not the only issue.

for example if you are starting to put a lot of picture files on the desktop of disk 5, and the other day you dont have disk 5 mounted but disk 17, where you now want to put a lot of audio files on the desktop, this creates quite a mess when you later for some reason want to mount both disks at the same time.

the ideal design would have been to allow the user to choose between the two systems.
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General Hardware Discussions / Re: Little updates about PCI USB Card
« Last post by Mat on May 30, 2020, 05:50:33 AM »
basic ux design concept.
What would have happened if there had been a lot of drives ? More than two hard disk, various pendrives, tape units and so on ? A big apples' mess
I like to bring in a complete contrary view of this behavior:
It is perfect user interface design!
Let's remember what Apple killed with switching to X and all the colourful effects. They broke the spacial browser and the idea to create a perfect illusion of what files, folders and programs and especially their icons are. 9s aim is to create the feeling that an "icon" IS the file. And with this behavior they did perfectly follow their logics. If an icon from any other mass storage than the boot drive is dragged to the desktop, and if it "stays" at the original drive this is totally logical, so it is not a mess, but contrary a perfect design. In fact it would be unlogical why a desktop should be connected to the boot drive, and if you put the icon from your stick to the desktop, it should be copied and thus you have immeditly 2 of the same files, ... I know it is a philosophical question, but they did a quite good job back than in staying consistant and logical, and in simplyfiying the abstraction layers of UX designs. That is why I love the spacial browser, and that is why I still think that no other Operating System ever was not able to hold a candle to Mac OS 9!

I for myselve even love this feature, as I can switch on the FW HD and immediatly ge its folders or program icons at the desktop, or as I can arrange my stuff at a stick, go to another computer at any place, and find it as I planned to! That is something completely different than to just "handing over data"!

And finally, If you like to copy stuff from your stick, just hold down the ALT key and it gets copied not the icon moved, simple as that. ;)
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General Hardware Discussions / Re: Little updates about PCI USB Card
« Last post by IIO on May 30, 2020, 05:49:22 AM »
this would be very user specific and will work only for the combination of your machine with your pendrive.

however, i could imagine such a system using the textcolor of the items name to indicate certain volumes.

there are a few people here who might think it is fun to write such a tool.

...

i am already using different background pictures for different volumes - and i could not work without such gimmicks.


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General Hardware Discussions / Re: Little updates about PCI USB Card
« Last post by Angel on May 30, 2020, 05:14:56 AM »
There is a simpler solution: a special icon overlayered on the basic one. For example if you have a PSD file on pendrive and  move it on desktop, the PSD file icon will add something like "USB" in an angle of the bitmap or set a special color palette. If i remember correctly there is already a function for it related to aliases so there wouldn't have been much work to do. The idea should have been "i must recognize the origin of every icon on the fly", basic ux design concept.
What would have happened if there had been a lot of drives ? More than two hard disk, various pendrives, tape units and so on ? A big apples' mess
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I had to explicitly specify the partition numbers doing it with a 10.4.11 install dvd.

diskutil partitonDisk /dev/disk0 2 OS9Drivers HFS+ macos9 30G JHFS+ macosx 45G

Thank you for the writeup!
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General Hardware Discussions / Re: Little updates about PCI USB Card
« Last post by IIO on May 29, 2020, 09:59:21 PM »
when this was designed, most mac users had 2 disks with 1 partition each. :)

i believe getting data from a pendrive is the only situation where you really could need this (and where it sucks when you accidentially move stuff to the desktop)

and even then you might want to move the stuff from the pendrive to some other disk than the boot partition, and then it doesnt matter. until last year i had more than 40 HDs.

i find copying the data into the root of the destination drive not a big issue. you think a contextmenu where you can choose which desktop to copy to would be simpler?
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Storage Technologies / Re: Singing the Praise of SCSI
« Last post by IIO on May 29, 2020, 07:10:57 PM »
if it ran slower i wouldnt recommend the 1.2 mhz for an AGP/blue :)

but when i think about it my assumption is probably nonsense. there were such cards/combinations, but surely not the sonnet ST - the sonnet supports what is says as long as the bus speed is 100 - it uses jumpers to set to bus speeds.

edit: i have looked it up. only in macs with bus speed 66 they will run slower. and, fun fact: in a quicksilver the 1.3 ghz card only runs at 1,266 ;)


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General Hardware Discussions / Re: Little updates about PCI USB Card
« Last post by Angel on May 29, 2020, 07:00:02 PM »
in MacOS9, every partition has its own desktop.

I can understand this thing referred to the trash but it's a nonsense with the desktop. In every case if the pendrive has got an own desktop and i want copy to another desktop of another partition, it must be a simply copy operation from a desktop folder to another one. Straight and simple. Here they have fused two and probably more different things without any reason, an enormous UX design error.
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System Utilities & File Management / Re: Media Transfer Protocol (MTP)
« Last post by IIO on May 29, 2020, 06:48:57 PM »
i dont have much eperiencce with this kind of consumer applications. all i know is that at least audion and mp3rage do not install such libraries anywhere.

what about toast & jam? have you checked those? i guess it might only exists in custom helper tools of certain camera vendors.

that extra mtplib is available only for posix and amiga - which programs rely on it there, no idea.
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today you have two options to make money from composing, producing and publishing music using a mac:

 - buy a brand new mac system for USD 30,000 and dont make any money with it

 - buy a USD 3,000 system from 2002 which runs OS9 and dont make any money with it.

those who can do math give a shit on 50" retina screens and thunderbolt 4 reading speeds and stay with the old system.

i sometimes create midi data using the USD 35(!) mac mini G4 - and control an Xserve 8 core with it, where a synth application is hosted, if you know what i mean.

OSX and windows are utilities to me, utilities which can extend the functionality of OS9, but never replace it.
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