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Hacking the System, Mac OS 9.3, and Beyond ! / Re: Vulnerabilities in Mac OS 9
« Last post by Custos on October 20, 2019, 04:21:45 PM »
Theft? I feel bad for anyone attempting that one 😆. Been considering updating everything to SSD. There are some projects I would prefer to keep around for as long as possible.
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yes it cant work with the IA since the files and the groups are usually with login only
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If you're a member of any Yahoo group, go there ASAP and download any and all files for whichever group you're a part of.

First they took Yahoo games away when I was addicted to Pool. Now they come for the good stuff  >:(

I don't use Facebook but a lot of people are migrating to Facebook groups. In my opinion, Yahoo should work with the Internet Archive to archive everything. They won't unfortunately.
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Hacking the System, Mac OS 9.3, and Beyond ! / Re: Vulnerabilities in Mac OS 9
« Last post by IIO on October 20, 2019, 03:21:36 PM »
Even with antivirus there are so many ways to get full access. Does norton scan the 'krnl' resource in the System File which is used to update the NanoKernel on Old World Macs? Does it scan Apple CPU Plugins?

i didnt mean to hijack the original thread topic, but a potential vulnerability is not equal to the existence of real danger in the form of a malware.

20 years ago about 100 times more people than today were using this OS - including the military, airports, the police ... and there was no such thing as you describe.

or at least we dont know. :)

beside 666 and a few nasty worms, which some idiots spreads across public sites back in the days, every other potential risk is in my opinion "too theoretical to bother about."

when i say this, i presuppose that everyone who does serious work on OS9 - and also downloads files from untrusted sources on the same machine - that he uses norton to scan new files.

i also presuppose that people always make backups of important files.

a harddisk failure or a burglary is far, far more likely than the appearance of a new malware for OS9.
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Hacking the System, Mac OS 9.3, and Beyond ! / Re: Vulnerabilities in Mac OS 9
« Last post by IIO on October 20, 2019, 03:09:58 PM »
i think one could say that something like "root" doesnt exist in MacOS9.

MacOS9 is always in "admin" - not higher or lower.  (that includes the socalled "user" system, which is a joke.)

trojans like backorifice are system extensions and you can only install it willingly. it would let me shut down your machine if i know your IP, but not touch any files, because OS9 doesnt really have an interface or shell for controlling the system.

perl or flash might have additional backdoors, but nobody uses this. :)
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Hacking the System, Mac OS 9.3, and Beyond ! / Re: Vulnerabilities in Mac OS 9
« Last post by Custos on October 20, 2019, 01:22:17 PM »
Someone gaining root access is the least of my worries. I don't allow any of my os9 machines to have internet access. 110 that really cleared a lot up for me. I've had suspicions about this for a few years now with little time to address it.
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Hacking the System, Mac OS 9.3, and Beyond ! / Re: Vulnerabilities in Mac OS 9
« Last post by Daniel on October 20, 2019, 12:45:59 PM »
There's likely all sorts of possible exploits. I have no idea about network based ones (except for really weak encryption), but it is hard to see how the Driver Descriptor Map and Resource Compression could possibly be made secure.

One runs code from a newly inserted disk and the other runs code in the resource file itself to decompress other resources (this can be used to run code the moment a resource fork is opened with the Resource Manager).

Those are less vulnerabilities and more features working as intended without any attention paid to security at all.

Even with antivirus there are so many ways to get full access. Does norton scan the 'krnl' resource in the System File which is used to update the NanoKernel on Old World Macs? Does it scan Apple CPU Plugins? Both are very obscure pieces of code that get run in PowerPC supervisor mode, where they can do anything.
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Jubadub

Not selecting Millions in Color Depth does indeed allow my MacDraw to function properly on my Mac Mini 1.5 GHz machine!  Thanks!  BTW, as requested, I fired up the Wallstreet PDQ and set it to Millions, MacDraw does not work there at that Color Depth either.  I must have known that at one time and long forgotten about it!

Jeff
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DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) & MIDI Applications / Re: Notewriter by Opus1
« Last post by macarone on October 20, 2019, 11:26:55 AM »
> choose your favorite font, make a copy, rename it (or its contents) to "Sonata", reboot.

I strongly suspect that this topic is a big bore to most here, so let me start with a Tip about Fonts that might be useful to someone who arrived here by accident:

In OS 6, Apple Menu Items (then called Desk Accessories and Fonts needed to be in the System File. This was later eliminated, in OS 7, if I remember correctly. There was a utility called Font/DA Mover to do this. Even though unneeded, it continued to work even in OS 9.

And my tip is: if you held down the Option  Key before selecting your source or destination, Applications would become available  in addition to the System File. You could retrieve special fonts from games, for eg, and add them to the System File for use in a word processor. You could also embed a favorite font in an application, that would then be available on any computer it was copied to, even if the second computer did not have it installed.

Now to your suggestion:

NoteWriter's handling of both Sonata and text files was very primitive.

Open a new document in a word processor and type:   =    &   ?    w    h    q    s    r   (with spaces between characters)

and then copy that line and keep pasting it several rows down.  Then highlight one row at a time and change it to a music font:

For eg: Broadway Copyist, Engraver, Inkpen2, Jazz, Maestro, Opus, Petrucci, Reprise, Scriabin, Sonata

Finale and Sibelius may be able to use a number of them, but NoteWriter cannot handle the spacing differences.

I already mentioned that NoteWriter only uses noteheads and the program draws the stems, so trying to make them a bit wider, does not work, because the stem does not wind up at the edge of the note.

The nice thing about Sonata in NoteWriter (especially when reduced to say 60% when printing, is that NOTHING is bold enough, so my solution has been to export the file and "photoshop" it to make it bolder.

I would be delighted to exchange ideas with anybody that is still using NoteWriter privately.

This really is too esoteric for Mac OS 9 Lives!  This would be more suitable for  OS 6 Lives.  ;)


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Hacking the System, Mac OS 9.3, and Beyond ! / Re: Vulnerabilities in Mac OS 9
« Last post by IIO on October 20, 2019, 09:34:19 AM »
yes - but run norton with final 2006 update while unstuffing & booting and all is good.
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