hey guys
back at it first time in awhile with the b+w g3 450mhz!
man i forgot about how much of a pain in the ass these machines were!

so im workin with a b+w g3 450mhz
with seritek 1s2 sil3112 card aswell as a radeon 9200LE (given to me by Jerry thx jerry)
that i have been switching back and forth back to the original rage 128 GL card that came with the g3 because 8.6 will always boot up with the original graphics card becasue rage 128 support is cooked into the os.

so i beeen having huge issues..trying to find the right cds to use to install 8.6 + 9.2.2 on this machine!
basically where im at right now is if i upgrde to. macos9.1 it renders my partition unbootable and i have to start up from a bootable CD and use start up disk control panel to change which partition im booting to select a diff partition and i basically have to scrap my 9.1 upgaded system folder because it refuses to boot!!!!!! so i then have to nuke the whole partition and cloning (copying) my files from my 8.6 back to the other partition and start the process over again.. upgrading to 9.0 always works no problem..  is it something to do with it "updating my hard drive drivers" as it says it does during the upgrade/update (from 9.0 > 9.1)

the disk i have is a 160gb sata drive i scored
split into 3 partitions, on the machine in 8.6 using drive setup (hey it makes a difference! HOW you do something right?)
basically i have a 10.3.9 panther install on one of the partitions and then 2 partitions used for classic os 8.6 + 9.2.2

i was able + contnue to be aable to upgrade from 8.6 to 9.0 no problem but if i do the 9.0 to 9.1 it tanks my install and i cant boot up.. the cursor shows up and locks up and i never get a happy mac..

Has anyone ever encountered this or can anyone recall a reason for this?

I'm gonna guess the Mac Pro since it has an 980 Watt Power supply will draw more that the QS.

Also you failed to mention single or dual CPU tray, SSDs, etc. I mean all this stuff adds when tasking and even at idle.

My mini M2 Pro uses less than 10watt at idle, and 40watt balls out so if you really want cool/low power, your gonna have to go much newer; the best choices for OS 9 desktop would be Cube or mini G4, but someone would have to post stats.

At any rate, I am not sure how much $$ you will save in a month, but I don't think it will be all that much.

Okay, I am trying to find out and see such conflicting information I turn to the group:

I have both a Mac Pro 5,1 and 2002 Quicksilver dual 1.0.  I am trying to determine which is more energy efficient. Not just at idle, but at regular everyday use.

No, I don't have a Kill-a Watt or any power measuring device, so am unable to really measure it myself. GIven it is later Summer and we get heat waves that are higher than 105F (41C) during the day, using my power bill to see any difference is not going to be possible.

So your thoughts?

I have read the book four times in my life. I just cannot stand the part of the Rhoem revolt where Shires equates homosexuality as something evil or deprived, whereas the rest is a gold mine of information.



 

The only copy of "The Language of the Third Reich", I found that was affordable for me (free) was a pdf copy on archive.org. So I will have to read that on my tablet. I do like to read and being retired I have no problems getting through a few hundred pages a week.

I am kind of curious to see if I can understand the book. It is an English translation. But being about using the German language to manipulate German culture, it seems like it might be quite incomprehensible to an American English speaker.

I used to read everything printed on "dead trees", but I took very quickly to reading on a screen. I like to be able to manipulate the fonts and sizes and in honesty it is nice to empty out lots of old book shelves. Some seller now days will include an ePub/pdf for just a couple dollars if you buy the book. I sometime do that and just donate the "real" book to the library.

I don't want to really get into today's politics, but I certainly can see shades of the current administration in both the NSDAP and Communist governments.

Well I finished all his books, now I am reading "The Language of the Third Reich" printed in 1947 in what used to be East Germany.

I can see why he got letters from West Germany saying his repudiation and criticism of the NSDAP is falling on deaf ears in the East, and how the communist government does the same things the NSDAP did, but he doesn't give the communists the same labels.

Still an interesting read and worth finding!

Relevant for things going on today, perhaps? What are your further thoughts on this one?
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the proxy is probably down.

What are some examples of modern apps for OS 9? Especially those that make internet connectivity easier? I've used some of the apps by Manticore such as LegacyAI (ChatGPT client) and WeatherBot. I know there's quite a few for early versions of OS X such a client for Discord, but what else is out there for OS 9? (if anything?)

I've been using Legacy AI (Chat GPT) successfully for some time, but it stopped working today with and Error 22.

Has anybody else had this problem? Does anybody know what Error 22 is, and what the fix is?

TIZ

normal price for just the book. the psus if they are the ufos are prone to die much so in lineage with the powerbooks before them.

I found a TiBook with 1Ghz, 768MB RAM for the price of 168 euro including shipping. Comes with two chargers for whatever reason.

Probably this is a once in a lifetime opportunity at that price?

My only concern is the heat and fan noise. Is it possible to lower the CPU clock by setting jumpers, like it is possible on G4 PowerPC cpu cards?

I also saw a forum post it should be possible to lower the clock or bus speed in power management?

The only copy of "The Language of the Third Reich", I found that was affordable for me (free) was a pdf copy on archive.org. So I will have to read that on my tablet. I do like to read and being retired I have no problems getting through a few hundred pages a week.

I am kind of curious to see if I can understand the book. It is an English translation. But being about using the German language to manipulate German culture, it seems like it might be quite incomprehensible to an American English speaker.

I used to read everything printed on "dead trees", but I took very quickly to reading on a screen. I like to be able to manipulate the fonts and sizes and in honesty it is nice to empty out lots of old book shelves. Some seller now days will include an ePub/pdf for just a couple dollars if you buy the book. I sometime do that and just donate the "real" book to the library.