Did any plugin SDK for Pro Tools 1-6 Rigs
Survive?

I would love to attempt to write new stuff for old rigs

I thought you were talking about the "iBook G3 12" 900MHz".

Getting OS9 on am unsupported 6,7 is a different issue altogether - one with which I'm not inclined to get involved with but I'm certain there is endless discussion about it to be found with a thorough Forum search.

"Install OS9 drivers" is an option that only appears when you first initialize and format a drive because it has to be done at the root level before anything else.

I may have to stop making entries on the thread, because I am not using currently using MacOS9 and I am not trying emulation or a virtual machine to run OS9.

@ResourceSpoon- Thank you for the links. I sort have given up for the time on a virtual machine or emulation, with the purchase of the Powerbook G3. I also had an issue Windows on the Mac Mini (2012), I couldn’t get it to boot into Catalina. I wiped the drive and reinstalled Catalina using the whole drive.

@laulandn- Thank you for the links and tips.

This week I have been studying how to install a hard drive into the PB G3. I also needed to clean and clear workspace on my work bench before I opened the laptop. I have an 20GB IDE drive to put into the computer. My plan is install the drive Friday (10/2) and to install OS 8 on the machine, to see if the machine works.  I am still looking for my OS9 disc.

Installing Tiger first is the way to go:

* Use the Tiger installer to first format the drive during which time you will be presented with the checkbox option to "Install OS9 Drivers".
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The problem is that I'm installing on unsupported (by OS 9) iBook 12" Radeon 9550 PowerBook6,7.  My first try was to install Tiger first and there was nothing about OS9 Drivers anywhere when I booted the Tiger install DVD and ran Disk Utility. Maybe DiskUtility is not offering this option because it knows OS9 is unsupported on this device?
Does OS X even care what is in open firmware? I have this dummy "screamer" sound thing to get OS9 to boot and yet sound still works in OS X. This suggests to me that Tiger doesn't care about this device node.

Anyway, I have this in nvramrc:

dev /cpus/PowerPC,G4@0
80010201 encode-int " cpu-version" property
device-end

dev /pci@F2000000/mac-io/i2s/i2s-a
" screamer" encode-string " compatible" property
device-end

+ lots of other stuff that was there already


I will certainly do as you suggest with my other OS9-supported iBook G3, once I get an SSD + adapter for it.  It came with Tiger installed and I guess the previous owner had checked Install OS9 Drivers.....

Is there some means in OS X Tiger to tell whether OS9 Drivers are installed?

Installing Tiger first is the way to go:

* Use the Tiger installer to first format the drive during which time you will be presented with the checkbox option to "Install OS9 Drivers".
* Then create one partition to yield two volumes - one for each OS.
* Finish the Tiger install on the first volume then install OS9 to the second. A real OS9 installer is the best way, since it will analyze the hardware and configure the OS9 Extensions and such automatically BUT you can just drag-copy-dump the OS9 System and Finder onto it and it will show up. You will have to do some System Folder tweaking yourself that way but it usually will just work.

This is the best way to dual-boot OS9 and OSX. It will prevent problems you don't need. Note that Spotlight is the first big troublemaker because it actively write OSX stuff around the OS9 stuff and so causes immediate issues.
Even without Spotlight working, having the two OS’es in close proximity can and does eventually cause problems… they just don’t appear as obvious dual-OS issues:
Random problems at boot, where you get to wait while OS9 “checks and repairs’ mysterious unexplained disk issues that occur more and more often…
Random hangs in OS9, again seemingly without good cause…

Trust me on this. It has been researched and debated around here forever.   

The same drive + adapter works fine in my iBook 12" 1.33 (Radeon 9550).  I just installed Tiger, then got frustrated trying to get it to dual boot with OS 9, then gave up and restored OS9 using another Mac with target-mode.  Not a single lockup or strange crash.

Maybe I'll try some SATA-IDE adapters with small SATA drives in the Lombard next.... I have a few which are short enough to fit if you take them out of the case.

I have some vague recollection that dual booting was a bad idea back in the day, which is why I'm giving it a go on a drive I will probably replace.  It really sounds like it is more trouble than it's worth at least on unsupported hardware.  So Spotlight corrupting the disk is the main issue.... I never liked Spotlight and always disable it: good old fashioned command line locate is blazing fast even on an old spinner and dead simple.

I was considering dual booting Tiger and (unsupported) OS9 for my  ibook G4 12"  Radeon 9550.  I'm pretty sure if I install Tiger first to an empty drive, it will not install Mac os 9 disk drivers so the easy way (just copying the "System Folder" folder to the Tiger drive) is out.   I went and made 2 partitions and installed OS9 on the first, but now I hesitate install Tiger.

I have a 128GB drive with the first 64GB used for OS9 and was thinking of installing Tiger in the second 64GB partition.  Is this likely to demolish my OS9 install?  Has anyone tried this?

Yes, rvense, your recollection is correct. Rick is a nice guy, but he should have stayed away from "DAW sound" issues.

With his huge audience and, being a nice guy, he can easily convince good part of population that the Earth is flat. 

There are some very important reasons. They have been discussed and cussed about ad infinitum on the forum. if it was up to me, there would be in their own subheading BUT since they're not…

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