Thank you very much IIO for the pointers. Even with guidelines, it will take some time to get used to and make sense but at least I feel less than drowning.
I agree that cloning a sound is not worth the effort and I was trying to used an artist I like and know to get in the ballpark. I would hate that trying to go for a Dream music vibe I end up making a DJ-at-Ibiza result (not the same mood 🤣).
Now, time to do my homework...
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Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI / Plugins (VST,TDM,RTAS,MAS) / Re: VST dictionary or map to select the right plugin for the job
on: August 21, 2026, 10:47:55 PM
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Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI / Plugins (VST,TDM,RTAS,MAS) / Re: VST dictionary or map to select the right plugin for the job
on: August 21, 2026, 11:20:41 AM
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=> the kind of echo/delay applied to the piano and harpsichord hard to name a certain plug-in, but from the audio i can tell how it was roughly made: all the repetitions - probably the 100% wet output of an inserted echo - are sitting in a small room, while the input is not. furthermore, at least for the higher notes, the repetitions are probably wandering a bit from the mid to the left, and then behind that there is a blumlein shuffler (that is mostly waves S1 in MacOS 9) which transforms the moving stereo postion of the echos into an increasing width. you could do the same by using automation on the stereo imager as well for this track. the pinao figure is rythmically always the same and so you could just copy the automation parts around. Quote what is used for the beat starting from 2:00 i looked up what he used, it should have been a 01w or a K-2000. because the K-2000 also uses sampling, it could be anything. with a little bit of filtering, shaping and pitchshifting you can easily transform a 909 into those drumsounds, but it could also be material from a sampling CD. Quote what instrument is used for the heartbeat pulsing tge bass on the offbeat? that is kurzweil. sawtooth, distortion, lowpass, and then the same short room reverb as the piano sound has. Quote Thanks for your help wading through plugins whose names don't help me much for now. my approach always was install everything, try everything, then you know what they do and if you like it. but i am aware that this is not so common.  most commercial music is made from presets or modified presets, but that doe not mean you can recreate it 100%. because what matters for the sound is the combination of 3 of 4 things. what also matters is the mix. and dont overrate the meaning of the originals. you only feel they are standard and you only like them because you have heard them 100 times already. you can as well just find you own sound and it will be as good as any possible role model. for a nice, soft piano like the piano from the korg 01w forget the steinberg grand plug-in. the default kontakt 2.0 piano played at vel 35 or lower will come closer. or one of those roland players or sampletank free piano... |
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Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI / Plugins (VST,TDM,RTAS,MAS) / Re: VST dictionary or map to select the right plugin for the job
on: August 20, 2026, 09:30:01 PM
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Thanks IIO for your reply. I know that one plugin could be used for multiple styles. Hence my noobish assumption that some knowledge base.
In my case, I was trying to identify in the Children (dream version) from Robert Miles: => the kind of echo/delay applied to the piano and harpsichord => what is used for the beat starting from 2:00 (found some kind of techno-ish beat in the default instruments but not quite the same) => what instrument is used for the heartbeat pulsing on the chords (also after 2:00) Those would be the ingredients I will need to apply to the basic beat+synth I recorder with the midi keyboard to give it more texture  Thanks for your help wading through plugins whose names don't help me much for now. |
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General / New Member Welcome / Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
on: August 20, 2026, 06:34:24 PM
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Hello! Just picked up an Indigo G3 iMac to relive some early 2000s nostalgia.
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Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI / Plugins (VST,TDM,RTAS,MAS) / Re: VST dictionary or map to select the right plugin for the job
on: August 20, 2026, 07:57:01 AM
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the idea that certain software is targeted to a certain style of music is probably not a very widespread idea.
yout best bet is to ask for suggesttion for the concrete case. if you describe what you are looking for it will be easy to recommend something. alternatively you could install the ca. 40 commercial, polyphonic instruments and then go for trial and error. |
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Mac OS 9 Discussion / Mac OS 9, Hacks & Upgrades / Re: USB 2.0 DRIVER: Fully integrated ROM/EXT release!
on: August 20, 2026, 05:32:13 AM
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Really glad to see these developments.
Thank you for doing this and getting this far.I know I personally will find a real use for this once USB 2.0 booting on the mini becomes a thing. By the way, make sure to always refer to this post for all the relevant mini & other ROMs. For the mini, both v8 and v9 ROMs are desirable, v10.2.1 (not the 9.6.1-based ones that came with the original v8/9 discs, which AFAIK are obsoleted). For System 7, the Rairii v8/v9 ROMs do the trick. The 1.33 GHz and 1.5 GHz mini models require the v8-based ROMs for proper functionality (but work on 1.25 GHz and 1.42 GHz minis, too, which makes it a universal solution unlike v9). Also, about this: Quote from: UnexpectedBomb - A maximum of four concurrently mounted USB drives (if you actually need to mount more than four at a time, I'm curious about your use case, haha) I don't (yet) use USB drives simply because, at least on the mini, there are only 2 "native" ports, and I personally have had bad experiences when connecting drives on USB hubs, even when externally powered (but sometimes I do, successfully). However, I certainly do use a hub on it which has 5+ devices connected to it, although they are not drives, usually for things that don't matter if power gets very briefly cut off, such as: - 1 USB audio adapter (both input+output); - 1 mouse; - 1 keyboard; - 1 PS1 controller adapter; - Further controller and other adapters. I do leave 1 USB port entirely unused, precisely when I do want to use a drive safely, though, such as for booting System 7. But doing so over USB 1.1 is still pretty slow. With USB 2.0, I think I would do this more often. Is there some technical limitation limiting you to 4 drives, by the way? Also, are non-drives also benefitting from the USB 2.0 speeds? (Usually not important, but I was just wondering.) For the record, on my only other computer (a Win7 rig), I do have 3 USB 3.0 drives connected all the time as backups of backups. The reason it's 3 is because each one is 4 or 5 TB each in capacity, and you will normally not find non-externally-powered drives exceeding that capacity. I can also deal with any of them a bit more smoothly if any of them fails, but the same wouldn't be true if I had a single 13 TB drive, and then the whole thing fails all at once. I can see myself using 4 or 5 drives at once in the future, and I definitely would find it encouraging if Mac OS, rather than Windows 7, could be one day used this way. But to be perfectly honest, just plain USB 2.0 booting would be all I could need in practice right now. Multiple drives are in practice more of an edge case... |
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Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI / Plugins (VST,TDM,RTAS,MAS) / VST dictionary or map to select the right plugin for the job
on: August 19, 2026, 09:59:05 PM
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Hi everybody,
I have a noob question but seems like either I am missing something (like the dict/map of the title) or it is a daunting task to find the correct plugin for a particular result. The context of my need: I wanted to do a small project to take a piece of melody and remix it in a complete different style. The original being a simple piano part, I thought that it would be just a question of playing it with the new rhythm of the variation, adding some rhythmic ref and polish it. My problem is: I know what type of sound I need (some synth, some textured bass beats) but I have no clue which of the gazillion VST plugins should help. And even choosing a music style is getting me closer to which list of plugins would be applicable. Hence my question: is there any source of information where I could use a music style or artist and get a list of VST plugins I could use to get relevant sounds ? Thanks in advance for your guidance and sorry if I am taking the problem from the wrong end. |
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on: August 19, 2026, 03:49:24 PM
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NEC USB 2.0 chips were the ones that worked with OS9 USB 1 drivers. VIA chips didn't work at all and IIRC the ALi ones were iffy.
I bet the only way to get USB 2.0 support going from boot will be to completely replace Apple's 1.1 driver. Have you looked at USB Overdrive? It adds support for a wide variety of 1.x devices. |
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Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI / Audio & MIDI Hardware / FireWire audio interfaces — chronological list
on: August 19, 2026, 01:58:09 PM
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on: August 19, 2026, 01:28:30 PM
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lets throw Claude at that problem
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