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Classic Mac Hardware (Troubleshooting, Upgrading, & Modifying) => Mac OS 9 Booting on Previously Unsupported Hardware => Topic started by: MacOS9Lives.com on April 11, 2018, 09:43:32 PM

Title: Mac OS 9 booting on: Previously Unspported G4 Models (Summary "Current state")
Post by: MacOS9Lives.com on April 11, 2018, 09:43:32 PM
Mac mini (PPC G4 - All 4 models: 1.25, 1.33, 1.42, 1.5 Ghz.)

Install custom ISO for Mac mini (Bootable ISO Image): http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,4365.0.html

(http://www.macos9lives.com/smforum/postimages/macminiG4.jpg)

- USB: WORKS
- FireWire: WORKS
- Video Acceleration: WORKS (but Apple DVD player? To be confirmed.)
- Ethernet: WORKS
- Modem: Untested
- Bluetooth (Optional when Ordered): DOES NOT WORK (No OS 9 Support)
- AirPort Extreme WiFi (Optional when Ordered): DOES NOT WORK (No OS 9 Support)
- Audio: PARTIALLY WORKS (Line signal is there, allowing the use of some speakers & other audio devices with a non-digital volume controller of some sort, although not every such device will get volume high enough to desirable levels.)

KNOWN ISSUES:
- Audio, described above;
- POTENTIALLY CORRECTED OR MITIGATED: About 1/10 a chance the mouse cursor won't be able to be moved right after booting, with the only known solution being a reboot; (ELN guessed this may have been patched since this post (http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,2408.msg30094.html#msg30094), but I believe there were no confirmations yet. Before this, he mentioned here (http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,2408.msg29920.html#msg29920) and here (http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,2408.msg29922.html#msg29922) what is that which he believes is the cause.
- POTENTIALLY CORRECTED: Fan loudness. (I think ELN's latest ROM fixed that, though, by making the Apple CPU Plugins file, unmodified & stock, remain compatible, but I didn't yet test it myself.)
- MITIGATED: Deep sleeps (won't "wake up" after entering sleep, so the latest ROM disabled the ability to sleep altogether, until this is fixed)

SYSTEM/FILE MODIFICATIONS APPLIED:
- Modified Mac OS ROM (by ELN)
- Modified Video/Graphics/GPU Drivers (by DarthnVader)
- Multiprocessing folder removed
Title: Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: Previously Unspported G4 Models (Summary "Current state")
Post by: MacOS9Lives.com on April 11, 2018, 09:47:36 PM
Apple PowerBook G4 1.0 Ghz 17" Aluminum (Model M8793LL/A - PowerBook5,1 - A1013)

Install Mac OS 9.2.2 For Previously Unsupported G4s: http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,2143.0.html

(http://www.macos9lives.com/smforum/images/diehardposts/PowerBook_G4_17.jpg)

The PowerBook G4/1.0 17" (Al) features a 1.0 GHz PowerPC 7455 (G4) processor with the AltiVec "Velocity Engine" vector processing unit, 256k on chip level 2 cache, and 1.0 MB level 3 cache, NVIDIA GeForce4 440 graphics with 64 MB of DDR SDRAM in an attractive aluminum alloy case with a 17" widescreen TFT display (1440x900 resolution), System Bus Speed: 167 MHz, Cache Bus Speed: 1.0 GHz (Built-in) 256 L2, 1 MB L3, PC2700 DDR SDRAM (Min. RAM Speed: 333 MHz), 2 GB Max

- USB: WORKS
- FireWire 400: DOES NOT WORK
- FireWire 800: WORKS (but seen as a FW400 port)
- Video Acceleration: WORKS
- Ethernet: PARTIALLY WORKS, Only works at 10mbps / half duplex or not at all
- Modem: Untested
- Bluetooth: DOES NOT WORK (No OS 9 Support)
- AirPort Extreme WiFi: DOES NOT WORK (No OS 9 Support)
- Audio: PARTIALLY WORKS: Sound issue has been verified;  the internal speakers only work if you plug a 1/8" jack in the audio out port

KNOWN ISSUES:
- Error on initial boot, most likely Card bus, just click thru, not a real issue
- Audio: See above

SYSTEM/FILE MODIFICATIONS APPLIED:
- Modified Mac OS ROM (by iMic)
Title: Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: Previously Unspported G4 Models (Summary "Current state")
Post by: MacOS9Lives.com on April 11, 2018, 09:49:14 PM
eMac (G4 1.25 Ghz.)

1) Install Mac OS 9.2.2 For Previously Unsupported G4s: http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,2143.0.html
2) Install DarthnVader's modified Video drivers: http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4322.0;attach=5025

(http://www.macos9lives.com/smforum/postimages/emac125.jpg)

- USB: WORKS
- FireWire: WORKS
- Video Acceleration: WORKS (exception: Apple DVD player not working)
- Ethernet: WORKS
- Modem: Untested
- Bluetooth: DOES NOT WORK (No OS 9 Support)
- AirPort WiFi: DOES NOT WORK (No OS 9 Support)
- Audio:: WORKS

KNOWN ISSUES:

- POTENTIALLY CORRECTED OR MITIGATED: About 1/10 a chance the mouse cursor won't be able to be moved right after booting, with the only known solution being a reboot;

- MITIGATED: Deep sleeps (won't "wake up" after entering sleep), partially solved replacing the Energy Saver control panel by Sleeper.

SYSTEM/FILE MODIFICATIONS APPLIED:
- Modified Mac OS ROM (by iMic)
- Modified Video/Graphics/GPU Drivers (by DarthnVader)

Other Notes: The eMac (USB2) @ 1.42 Ghz. Video chip is based on a Radeon 9600 (no Mac Os 9 support at this moment).
Title: Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: Previously Unspported G4 Models (Summary "Current state")
Post by: MacOS9Lives.com on April 11, 2018, 10:14:59 PM
Apple Power Macintosh G4 1.25 DP (FW 800)

Install Mac OS 9.2.2 For Previously Unsupported G4s: http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,2143.0.html

(http://www.macos9lives.com/smforum/postimages/g4_mdd800.jpg)

- USB: WORKS (No 2.0 Support)
- FireWire 400: DOES NOT WORK (Unrecognized)
- FireWire 800: WORKS (but seen as FW400 port)
- Video Acceleration: WORKS
- Ethernet: WORKS
- Modem: WORKS
- Audio:: WORKS

SYSTEM/FILE MODIFICATIONS APPLIED:
- Modified Mac OS ROM (by iMic)
Title: Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: Previously Unspported G4 Models (Summary "Current state")
Post by: DieHard on April 11, 2018, 10:34:28 PM
To all users, please use this format as a basic template (special thanks to Jubadub) and post your results for any models not listed here.

Also, post any corrections to info. that conflicts with your test results for models already mentioned
Title: Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: Previously Unspported G4 Models (Summary "Current state")
Post by: mrhappy on April 13, 2018, 07:04:07 AM
Great work guys!! Very clear and quite helpful!! ;D
Title: Unsupported - Mini Mods Begin
Post by: FdB on April 13, 2018, 09:23:20 AM
Great work!
Now let the Mini case mods begin!

Pictured Mini is an A1176
                *Not the A1103 G4

Title: Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: Previously Unspported G4 Models (Summary "Current state")
Post by: IIO on April 13, 2018, 11:44:24 AM
https://de.ifixit.com/Device/Mac_mini_%28PowerPC%29
Title: Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: Previously Unspported G4 Models (Summary "Current state")
Post by: macStuff on May 10, 2018, 03:30:26 AM
Great work guys!! Very clear and quite helpful!! ;D

agreed - thank you for the effort
now i need a mac mini
Title: Re: Mac OS 9 booting on: Previously Unspported G4 Models (Summary "Current state")
Post by: mrhappy on May 10, 2018, 07:02:38 AM

now i need a mac mini

me too... probably a few of them!!! ;D ;D