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Title: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: DieHard on November 17, 2014, 08:32:49 AM
I saw this thread at Thinkclassic
https://www.thinkclassic.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3340#p3340

And I know a lot of you like your anonymity, but I thought it would be cool to get some personal background (names and locations can be left out to protect the innocent) on members, even though I feel like I know you guys.  We have been going full throttle finding all that awesome OS 9 DAW stuff and system upgrades for so long, that now is may be nice to fill in the gaps of what brought us here...

Again, this is an optional thread, so don't cancel your membership if Interpol is still looking for you.

I will break the ice

And I am proud to be a member of a group where so many choose to learn something deeper and maximize its potential.
I am sure many of you embrace new technology and are not ignorant regarding the latest and the greatest, but maybe we like to sip our wine a little slower, maybe planned obsolescence doesn’t sit well with us... at least, for now.

I strongly believe the inherent value in Classic Mac hardware together with the Classic Mac OS and the synergy between the two is that it can still inspire us to want to use a computer... the balance between function and form cannot be understated, it simply works... it produces results... and we enjoy the experience along the way.  I can almost compare it to driving a car with a standard transmission where the driver is more in control... the newer car with the automatic transmission (although a  sweet ride) tends to make us feel like we are being driven.

Great works of art can leave a lasting impression on the psyche.  I remember it like it was yesterday... Although I had been working with both Macs & PCs since the 80s, the defining moment was when our group loaded a pre-release of Mac OS 8.5.1, it left a lasting impression... thru the appreciation of its existence and the creative inspiration it manifested, it would change my perception of a desktop computing completely; so much so that friends and co-workers would use terms like “Obsessed” or “Fanatical” when describing my devotion to the pursuit of all things Mac. The PowerMac G3 line at the time, together with Mac OS 8.5.1 was a defining moment for me...all the countless late nights devoted to learning all the hardware and software tricks to keep Windows 95/95/NT/Novell all talking to each other were just a means to keep my corporate network clients up and running. While at work I would set interrupts on cards and deal with never ending blue screens, but my personal computing (done on my own time), would be done on Macs.

Since my background was networking, my interest was in both the hardware and the software.  Our company was both a Novell Gold shop and also a purchaser of liquidated computers, so it was not long before I acquired a single item of almost every Apple computer product produced.  I had my pick of the warehouse, 6000 Square feet of industrial shelves of Macs, PCs, and peripherals that would be resold in bulk (minus what I acquired for my personal collection). This led to a weird affection that developed toward the machines and the Mac operating system itself... like a great art collection, my mac collection was my most prized possession.  It has only been though years of self therapy, that I only keep the computers I use (plus a few or so for backup...hehe).  My biggest past time and hobby has always been music, so naturally my Macs are my greatest assets.

I am a Diehard fan of Macs and Mac OS... I guess i’m not alone :)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: MacTron on November 17, 2014, 12:19:52 PM
... maybe it's my turn...
About myself: one of those guys that find more easy to name what they don't like that what they like.
I have studies on Economy and Physics.
I love science and art, and make music with computers is a way of join both worlds.
I like all musical genres, but not all kind of songs.
I use computers since early 80's. I remember when the Macintosh born. But it was an achievable dream at first. I had to use MS DOS even though knowing that there was a lot of things a lot of better: Atari, Amiga, and the Macintosh. During my studies, I have used Unix and Solaris systems, and later Linux ( I had my own Debian based Linux distro ).

I've used a Next Station, just once, they were impressive at this time. Unfortunatelly they lost some of the things that I liked more, when they become Mac Os X.

I had my first Mac as soon I had the money for it: a Macintosh LC.
Since them I have done a lot of DTP, some music and video edit and mac programing, my first app was a game named Tron ( another iteration of the classic one ). LOL
I'd done some other software development projects, but I'd decided stop this tasks and to focus in to making music.

But I felt like "the last man on earth" with some problems with Cubase 5. At the same time, I saw this forum I thought to my self: finally I had found what I was searching: a Mac Os 9 site and DAW focused.

About Mac Os 9 in short: As more systems I have used and I use, the more I like the Mac Os 9.

... well the remaining things are well known.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: blemk on November 18, 2014, 07:17:00 PM
Was wondering if a thread like this would pop up after someone saw the sub forum on ThinkClassic. Bit different then ThinkClassic, so I will provide different details.

Grew up in the time of my elementary school having Apples, middle school and high school having Mac OS 6 through late OS 8.x and early 9.x machines. Before finishing high school, left Apple/Macintosh a bit (holding onto my Peforma 6400/6500 as long as I could afford multiple computers but ultimately leaving Mac OS behind all together when OS X became the "new os").

Having gotten to play with Windows 3.1 and NT 4.0 all the way through the Windows versions we have today, and many other experiences with Linux/BSD (and many other over the years) along the way..... I still could remember the day I picked up my first new (not hand me down, used, etc) computer. The good old Performa 6400 I enjoyed running Mac OS 7.5 on all the way through to a modified 9.2.0 it was deemed not worthy to run by it's creator. The nostalgia alone, over years culminating a few weeks ago, led me to buy a PowerMac G4 MDD FW800 and a FW400 MDD board to swap in... Only to end up with a complete FW400 as well as someone at work said "Hey, I have one of those if you want it for free)...

People at work know me for a hatred of Mac OS.. In reality, a hatred of what Mac OS became when it got it's "X". "X" just seems like a mistake of all that was good about other non-MicrosoftWindows OSes and even to this day seems like a niche OS that somehow really doesn't have a niche.  ??? Never quite feeling complete, and never feeling as unique or as purely simple as Mac OS did through to 9.2.2.

Today I find myself in forums such as this, looking at running a almost forgotten part of Apple history as Mac OS these days is far from what we were used to in Mac OS 9 and earlier. Ironically, I came to this forum with almost no interest in DAW at all. Just running an old OS that allows me to do things I could easily do on many other more modern operating systems but would never seem the same as the day I did it on the OS I grew up with so long ago.

Installing old apps, games, hardware. I have not purchased so many PCI/AGP cards as I have in the last month. Combining years of knowledge and tech into hardware made almost 13 years ago. I have gotten my FW400 MDD almost to where I want it.. SSD instead of traditional mechanical drive, water cooling (will share images and info if you guys with MDDs want a really quiet MDD for about $50 plus random nuts/bolts).. Once I get it to a point where the hardware is sound and have time to really sit down to work on it for more then an hour or so every few nights, will catch up to what else people in forums like this have been doing with what I think is the only form of Mac OS that ever existed.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: DieHard on November 18, 2014, 08:26:04 PM
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...water cooling (will share images and info if you guys with MDDs want a really quiet MDD for about $50 plus random nuts/bolts)

I would love to see that :)

Thanks for the background info
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: 9Teen90Nine on November 23, 2014, 02:54:14 PM
Hello all, my name is Duncan.  Found the site through a Google search for OS 9 information.  I've always loved the classic OS, it's a no frills, get the job done kinda deal and I love it for that.  I haven't used it in at least twelve years, but found the need to get back into it lately.  I recently purchased a G3 Wallstreet from '98 (one of the best looking notebooks if you ask me!) recently with OS 9.2.2. installed and I intend on keeping it that way.

I haven't received the machine yet since I ordered it in the US where it has to be sent to family and finally to me, but I look forward to being an active member here on the forums.  Thanks for having me!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: thebob on November 23, 2014, 07:18:12 PM
Hi from Japan. Long time Mac fanatic here. Started with an LC520 OS7.1 and used Macs ever since. Still have a pile of old Macs including a Color Classic II with an LC550 Mobo and the 13" resolution hardware hack. I've got a 5220, 7500, 7600 a couple of beige G3's and a couple of G4's. A stack of old PowerBooks 100, 145, 150, 520 etc.

I use a Mid 2007 iMac and a White Macbook Core2 Duo, daily. I'm not fond of the fragility of newer Macs.

I play a little bass, and like to DJ. Started practising some live PA on a Roland MC-303 Groove box, an Akai S2000 came my way and Mac OS9 and MESA was the perfect fit. I had a G4 with a SCSI card, so the only hardship was making a system disc on an old PC with a Win boot disc. Presently has a 230 MO dive as a start up disk. I'm just working on the backlight on an Akai S3000XL. New inverter from ebay 12V DC to AC Inverter for EL Lamp, seems to work OK from the internal 12V line. I'm going to use a resistor to dim it down a bit before fitting it permanently.

I'd like information about flashing Sound Cards. It seems there are plenty of good PC ones but not so many for the Mac.

I've go a MIDI Macman, without a power socket on it. Black lettering 1x3 that I haven't used yet.

Just repaired a Roland U-110 sound module, and I also have a Roland MT-120S that does GS. My keyboard is a Roland PC100 Mk II. I've got a Kawai Q80 sequencer that I've got to get my head round.

Ideally I'd like to write on the Mac and load samples, then use the hardware sequencer for performance. I think it's going to need a CF reader to replace the floppy though.

On the USB side I've got an Edirol UM-1 and an Akai LPD8 to play about with on my MacBook.

What I'd like is advice on easy to learn DAW software and moving data into/out of my sequencers and samplers.

Nice to meet you all.

 
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on November 23, 2014, 08:07:42 PM
Hi from Japan. Long time Mac fanatic here.
...

Nice to meet you all.

Welcome. We were praying for months for a Japanese user here. There are some Japanese pages that need human translations as the Mathey cards one.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: thebob on November 23, 2014, 08:43:54 PM
Hi from Japan. Long time Mac fanatic here.
...

Nice to meet you all.

Welcome. We were praying for months for a Japanese user here. There are some Japanese pages that need human translations as the Mathey cards one.

I'm not Japanese but I'll help where I can. Which pages are you having problems with?
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on November 23, 2014, 09:02:55 PM

I'm not Japanese but I'll help where I can. Which pages are you having problems with?

I thought someone living in Japan should be Japanese...  :P  :-X

I think ChrisNova needed something about Mathey PCI SATA cards

http://www.mathey.jp/SerialATA.html (http://www.mathey.jp/SerialATA.html)
http://www.mathey.jp/PCI_Extensions.html (http://www.mathey.jp/PCI_Extensions.html)
http://asashina.ikeriri.ne.jp/blog/ja1uvg.php?itemid=2301 (http://asashina.ikeriri.ne.jp/blog/ja1uvg.php?itemid=2301)

Those were mentioned by him. Please reply to my question on other post to keep this introduction post clean. Sorry for been offtopic, again.  :-X
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: supernova777 on November 30, 2014, 02:46:21 AM
yep . i was going to post an introduction post but protoolsLeGuy ruined the thread with his offtopic  ::)
LOL  ;D

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I saw this thread at Thinkclassic
https://www.thinkclassic.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3340#p3340

this link is now invalid... what was the thread about?
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: DieHard on November 30, 2014, 11:19:49 PM
Link is valid, but first you have to login as a member of ThinkClassic for it to work, is was the same idea, A member introduction topic :)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Metrophage on December 11, 2014, 03:03:51 PM
Greetz, all!

I got into Macs in the late 1990s, mostly. My parents bought a Franklin (][ compatible) when I was young, and I tried a Lisa when those were new. Once I was out on my own, I had an Amiga which I liked, a system I finally had some software for. But that box got stolen when I moved. I knew I wanted a Mac, because back then practically all audio and graphics software ran on these. Eventually a kid I worked with wanted to sell a 6200CD, this was my first Mac. What a dog it was, lots of design flaws and only 22kHz sound. But I still liked it. Eventually I bought an 8500 and found a 8100 in the trash and used these. They were both really unstable, probably because of poor RAM choices I didn't know better about. But the 8500 was my first box I got work done with. MacOS 8.6 had just come out. I bought a Studio 4 interface, SVP and Max and started messing around. Eventually my SVP keydisk got borked and I switched to LAP4.7. I especially liked the many weird academic programs for Mac hosted at universities and such.

By 2001-2002 my 8500 was retired and replaced with an B&W, which was a huge improvement. Through the 2000s I had a bit of money so got a few different eras of Macs to play with. SE, 2ci, 8600. I also enjoyed running my fastest OS9 machines. My 1GHZ TiBook, which is great but a bit delicate, and a few MDD machines. I love the MDD, but I have had problems keeping them cool and quiet. With every drive and slot loaded, and dual 1.42GHZ CPUs, they seem to cook themselves after a few years. I had a project a few years back to make the ultimate MDD tower which was liquid cooled and with a GeForce 4600Ti but I lost my job and ran out of money.

These days I am skating by doing multimedia art and designing gear. Just getting back into things after a rough patch of the past few years. Hoping for more old-school Mac antics over the next year!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: jt on December 11, 2014, 08:16:45 PM
LOL! I haven't even done an intro over at ThinkClassic yet. Most everybody there knows me from the four distinct lifetimes I've spent hacking my way through three different iterations of the 68kMLA forums and two iterations of 'fritter's forums. I followed iMic over here to watch the goings on in the Native9 on unsupported hardware thing. So bear with me, I think I'm finally gonna cut it loose:

Sig says a lot. Did vector graphics in my skull and by hand with digits, crayons, pencils, pens, brushes and all manner of really sharp edged nastiness dating from pre-K days when I'd lay on the living room floor of the farmhouse, copying the engineering drawings in my dad's textbooks "helping him do his homework."

< OMG! snip-snip-slash-n-burn >

edited: spent the late Eighties in a whirlwind of Basic on Trash80 under CPM -> C64 (with FDD!) mostly playing Red Baron -> Tandy 1000sx and Ashton-Tate's Framework (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framework_%28office_suite%29) -> ThunderScanning from a used ImageBanger WC into the 512k bundled with it at home -> production on an SE/Radius16 -> used IIx specifically bought to hold up a bargain basement 19" B&W TPD (really B/W, seriously, just two bits!) and as the launch pad for a planned Radius Rocket 33 purchase and all running under a max of 6.0.8 until core software requirements dragged me kicking and screaming the entire way into the bug-fix dotted early Nineties World of 7.0.1  .  .  .  hrmmm, do we see what appears to be the beginnings of a trend there?

< EEK! snip-slash-edit-edit-edit >

By the Mid-Nineties I decided I needed a backup for the IIx/Rocket right in the middle of a huge job, just in case. So over to Tekserve I trekked to buy that fully loaded Quadra_630 from my buddies with a free upgrade to something called 7.5  .  .  .  and - there - I - stayed  .  .  .  until I was dragged a long and circuitous route (again, kicking and screaming all the way) through machines and software requirements until I finally threw my hands up in disgust. I pulled my hair out by the roots all the way on the train ride downtown to buy a boxed copy of OS 9.0 to let a clean install of ANYTHING different deal with the horrid AOL thrashed mess that had become of the 7.5.5 install on the drive of my refurbed Performa_6360/SonnetG3.

That made the slide into the stock 9.1 install on my brand spankin' new G4/466 Digital Audio nice-n-easy! ;D

< phew! >

Bought a Box with one X on the side just to see what hoopla was all about  .  .  .  :o

OMFG!!!!!!  ???  Right back into the box it went and there it stayed after I drew a big XXX over the original one. :P

There's not a single program or feature that's come along since that day to pull me and my many thousands of dollars worth of licensed Graphics a/o hardkeyed CAD/CAM software out of my happy little Native9 bubble.

Though I did just buy a retail copy of 10.4.whatever off eBay for fixing acquired machines sorely in need of the Faux9 install their owners neglected to do, while still having the sense to hold it down to the 10.4.11 level.  :-\

WWW access has been unmercifully restricted to WiFi and WAN equipped NetBooks under strictest quarantine. Zip250 is my SneakerNet medium of choice, heck, I haven't even had the Mac Network set up for over five years.

<  lazily decides to hit post without proofing or checking the word count again.  ::) >

Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: DieHard on December 11, 2014, 10:30:24 PM
I love the MDD, but I have had problems keeping them cool and quiet. With every drive and slot loaded, and dual 1.42GHZ CPUs, they seem to cook themselves after a few years. I had a project a few years back to make the ultimate MDD tower which was liquid cooled and with a GeForce 4600Ti but I lost my job and ran out of money.

Welcome :)

We will help you get back into an MDD that won't cook itself.  For Audio, under a pure OS 9 environment, most of us prefer a single CPU (since most apps don't use the dual capability), since it runs cooler, also an SSD (or IDE DOM) as the main boot and work drive really keeps the temp down and a large partitioned PATA/IDE for Extra storage.  We can help you Quiet one down quite a bit with the right fans without sacrificing too much on CFM values.  And these days ebays is giving away MDDs so snatch one up :)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: DieHard on December 11, 2014, 10:40:00 PM
Bought a Box with one X on the side just to see what hoopla was all about  .  .  .  :o

OMFG!!!!!!  ???  Right back into the box it went and there it stayed after I drew a big XXX over the original one. :P

There's not a single program or feature that's come along since that day to pull me and my many thousands of dollars worth of licensed Graphics a/o hardkeyed CAD/CAM software out of my happy little Native9 bubble.

Without sounding X-aPhobic, many here still appreciate what 9 has to offer.  We have been focusing on stretching that bubble to the Max. with advancements in the backup and recovery arena (with Apple ASR Apple Software Restore), Applying hardware advancements (SSD, DOM, and SATA Firmware, and 64 Bit PCI testing), and lastly, running Mac OS on unsupported hardware.  Although our core user group consists of Musicians and audio recording enthusiasts, we are growing into a larger community.... we welcome you and more to come :)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: jt on December 11, 2014, 11:57:14 PM
THX! The X-oPhobe RPG suits as part of my online persona and to tell the truth, I really am a n00b there because I've consciously chosen to ignore OSX. I don't think there were many who came up from System 6.0.or so that didn't have that WT  .  .  .  ??? :o first reaction to that buggy b!^<# when it first shipped. I hear it's gotten better. ;)

It goes without saying that were I to be doing graphics/production work today, I'd be hip deep in OSX, new apps a/o newer revs of my core apps with new features in a heartbeat.

Investigating where 9 crosses the line into X and then that again crosses into an X that will support non-commercial Blu-ray over FW400 would be one of my current time-sinks. It sure would be nice if a solution for backward compatibility for DVD or even just CD could be coaxed out of said peripheral under OS9. For the rest there's always another drive to boot from a/o an alternate machine's I/O panel.

This is likely the best place I've found for that particular kind of nitty-gritty. I'm glad to be here.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: miracman on December 28, 2014, 01:39:07 AM
Hello,
 
   This is my first post.  I registered in february to this amazing place of yours which I heard/read about on macint0shgarden basically  - following a user with a nick ending with 777 which seems to be quite active in here as well ;).  I thought I could contribute at that point, and me and a friend of mine were at the time trying to get the most out of a G3 of his.  For some reason, I thought I needed to wait a second email for some sort of acceptance.. or approval from the website.. and then I forgot about it... and now I'm back 10 months later figuring out that I could have been participating all this time. 
    So now I guess I should introduce myself.  In some ways I would present myself as somewhat of a starving musician... but since I just ate and can't seem to play any instruments for the last few months, that doesn't make much sense.  Let's just say
that I want to get back at it and that making a good OS9 music machine seems like a good idea (especially since all I have are G4s) ;)
    I used to produce OK music using that same, even lower-end, material, so hey that should be feasible, right?
    Anyways, I stumbled here at the same time that I was trying to clean up my old OS 9 archives. As well maintained as my archives are.. you'd still get a few hundred VSTs from different sources all mixed up weirdly from various Hotline or even Carracho servers.  That part is a mess, but I'm sure there are a few interesting things in there...  I'll cross-check with yours ;)
     I hope that I can be helpful in any way here and can't wait to be a part of your discussions.
     Saluting all of you :).
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: supernova777 on December 28, 2014, 05:10:43 AM
Thanks for the message Miracman..
If even just a handful of people are able to find themselves + their passions ignited by visiting here then all my efforts here have been more than worth it;)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: miracman on December 29, 2014, 12:14:17 AM
OK, I can't stop reading posts here.  You guys are making an amazing job... the ASR thing, tricking OF on a FW800, some guy doing a max patch for an app on OS 7.5.5....  it's just pure goodness all over the place. :D

The weird part is that I'm here using Tiger on a dual boot..  :-[
I hope that I can read all that as easily with the classila I got here on my 9 partition; that would make it perfect.

Anyways, kudos to all of you!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Custos on December 29, 2014, 10:53:52 AM
Ive always had a fascination with music and computers, but not till I was around 15-16 did I start making music on computers. I think it was around the age of 7 that I got my first computer. It was a MAC!! It was a old mac that was given away from the office my grandfather worked in. As soon as I turned it on it had an error (the frowning mac face) My mother threw the Manuel at me and told me to read it. Next thing i know the computer was fixed and running great. Fast forward 10 years and I was stuck on windows because of the cost differences. I soon learned how horrible windows COULD be. So I began teaching myself about fixing them. Then after getting my first job my lust for music gear took over. The more I learned about making music on a computer the more I started to recognize how many people were using mac for production. Now I got just as many macs as I do PC's! Ive used mac linux and windows.  Linux is great for hacking I really couldn't find much more use for a Linux machine other than that lol. Hands down mac will always be my choice for music. I currently work with hardware synths and vinyl records for samples. I also have projects with rap artists and even house music DJ's. I have a passion for all types of music. I mostly produce rap instrumentals but I am working on a solo experimental album too.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on December 29, 2014, 11:27:17 AM
My Name Is Jorge and I am from Spain. I work as a P.A. sound tech since '97 and bought my first DAW in '98. I have been a Win user since Win 3.1.1 and OS9 user since '02. I had the honor to see working some of the best engineers/editors in Spain (one Grammy awarded) on macs since 98, and had worked on studios with ADAT and Reel 16 tracks analog recorders and 4 tracks since '97. I am trying lo learn to play the guitar since '92  ;D  I bought my Yamaha 4track cassette on '95.

 
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Ed Redfern on December 29, 2014, 12:34:00 PM
Hi all... ermmmm... (scratches head) ok... hello... is this thing working? Of course it is lol. even medi-evil roadies can wire up a P.A... surely one do I say, one do I say, then surely two should follow.

My name's ed. Currently in the middle of Wales though my home still belongs in Yorkshire. I am a blind musician, composer and music producer who relies on older technoloigies, old school methods, etc to get the job done. I don't follow the latest tech trends other than what's truly accessible for me, speech wise anyway.  I qualified with a masters degree in professional audio and a royal graduate degree in classical music, Guild hall honours for piano and play church organ when there's time or whenever I find a nice cozy church while on the road.

I've done a fair bit of sound design and sound programming over the years for different synths and samplers but mainly touring with bands or session work and of course working in studios as a recording engineer besides my own setup.

I like challenges in life. I always believe in a bit of excitement to keep the heart beating and the fire circulating through me lol.

At the moment, undergoing a studio rebuild after a disaster 6 months back. I was guided to here because of my search for protools software, etc for OS9 and I have to say, with thanks to contributors here, I've found the plugins, ProTools TDM 5.13, etc to help get a G3 back up and running. Just facing a struggle finding the hardware. Anyway I've placed an ad in the wanteds side of here which explains more.

It feels like a nice home here and I'm sure if anyone needs my help, I'm more than willing to share what I've got knowledge wise, etc.

many thanks to the mods for allowing me to join this merry band of apple heros lol.

ed
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: supernova777 on December 29, 2014, 02:17:20 PM
ok i guess i should tell some info about me..
My Name is Chris (obviously)
one of my first big interests in music began with hiphop in 1987 when a friends dad tape-dubbed me his vinyl of "RUN DMC - Raising hell" I was a hiphop addict from 1987-1992 but in 1993 i started getting more into house music + rave parties happening in Toronto In 1997 I started buying house vinyls + by 1999 i had my first dj gig in toronto, I dj'd alot there from 1999-2005 paying my bills from djing for awhile.. my first exposure to audio production was back around 1997 aswell, when a friend + i teamed up to work on some tracks in his studio.. his studio was robbed and we lost our 8 tracks or so that i had done all the rhythm + percussion programming for.. my friend decided to get into djing aswel instead of rebuilding his studio... since then i always wanted to get a studio back together... fond memories of his juno 60 + programming rhythms in cubase (i think it was version 3.0) around 2002 i bought a copy of reason 2.0 and since then i was trying to wrap my head around production, notes, rhythms.. professionally i was also a webdesigner working for many ad agencies in Toronto between 1999-2005 working on some well known brands

ive dedicated my time here in order to help other people like myself who have a yearning to produce music, to find a way to make the intangible become tangible.. dreams into reality..  ;)

likes: 80s music, disco, soul, jazz, r&b, hiphop, house, occasionally some techno, electro, and even some jungle;) (note to knez: NO GABBER!)

my first mac was a performa 6400 in around 1997... i was a hotline user.. and i was big into photoshop + illustrator + collecting typefaces.. i was a flash animation designer beginning with macromedia director and flash v3.0 after having been inspired by the work of Hillman Curtis (rip) i was so involved with graphics + animation + web coding that i never got a chance to even look at any of the great apps that we have here when they were current.

alot of my own music that i created with reason (v2.5 - v5.0) left me kind of dissatisfied.
tracks would always start out great and then once i added too many elements would fall apart..
i guess this could be lack of mixing skill, but i also tended to blame the mixer + the software a bit, and i was looking for a better mix... which is what led me to become obsessed with educating myself on all the ins + outs of the other software packages.. but alot of the music i appreciate was really old frm the time when i was around 16 years old.. so i knew it could be done with old stuff. thats what keeps me looking to the past, rather then buying the latest newest gear.

heres a web archive backup of my site from early 2000
http://web.archive.org/web/20010203163100/http://416design.com/
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Post by: mrhappy on January 06, 2015, 11:21:09 AM
Hey Kids... Wanted to stop by and say Hi! Found this place while in the mist of putting together a ProTools TDM system... 9.2.2 on a G4 dual 500. First Mac ('87-ish) was a Mac Plus running Performer synced to a reel to reel, then 2  RTR's... later partnered with a friend building up a studio... pre-Pro Tools Pro Tools/ADATs ... currently HDX.  Needing to record at home I would travel back and forth with a Roland VS1680 then got 001 on a G4 400 which made it easy.

Computer skills are on the basic side... normal MO is to get something up and running then don't change ANYTHING till forced by gun point!! ;D

Anyway... this site is AWESOME! Thanks to all here and hope to be able to contribute SOMETHING along the way!  ;D 
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Post by: ferridirection on February 17, 2015, 12:13:00 AM
Hi friends,

Diego here - italian living in Berlin, Germany - been around music and computer for 15ish years - as studio assistant, musician, sound engineer, all around geek, etc. I used various versions of Pro Tools from 5.1.3 TDM on - I'm on PT11 right now then one day I've found this mix + system on my local classifieds and here I am.

The first Mac I owned was a G4 733 digital audio which, despite the fancy name - had nothing to do with any audio production application - it was deceptively called digital audio because of a dedicated audio out you could use to connect expensive designer branded speakers. well ya apple is a big marketing machine but they got us the best computers ever so long live OS9.
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Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 17, 2015, 02:14:03 AM
My beige G3 age was covered with Pentium 2 233 hardware and a Guillemot Isis soundcard that came with Logic 3.6ProIsis with Direct X plugings and 16 tracks (could record 8 at a time with 4 outputs and a GM soundset from roland sound canvas as a onboard synth).
I then bought a new PC, a Athlom 1400 and a Terratec DMX6fire 24/96 to record on Logic 5.5.1. Then I bought a G3B&W and an Audiomedia3 and 2 Rage128 GL pci cards (one with the decoder). That thing take me to Protools.
 I bought a second AM3 just when PT-Mpowered was enunciated in the market to use with a Pentium 4. Then a Pentium D, an AP 24/96 to use elastic audio from protools 7.4 MP . At that time a G4 DA 466 was donated to me and I tried PT6 with the audiomedia, but the rage 128 AGPx4 did not helped much, and that setup was way more powerful and stable on OS9 as the G3. Then a 001 was donated with a Logic Xskey and I thought it could come in handy to upgrade the 466 G4 and I bought a QS'02 dual GHz CPU for it. When the forum started, I received donated a 866 MDD from an offer of that MDD with an HD2 setup for 50 Euros! I got the MDD free and my Madrid friend a HD2 for 50 Euros. I work now in PT HD 9.0.4 on a Intel Q6600 core2Quad overclocked at 3.15 with an focusrite Liquid Saphire 56 and a UAD-1 PCI on 10.6.8. And that is my story in last 15 years related to DAWs and machines.
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Post by: supernova777 on February 17, 2015, 03:07:28 PM
how much did u pay for the liquid sapphire ???  :o
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Post by: MusicWorks on May 20, 2015, 01:42:40 PM
Hi guys,

Born in the mid '80s, I remember the Macintosh SE my dad purchased from the only store in Madrid that carried Macintosh computers. A 145B Powerbook with black and white flat display soon followed. I also remember listening to records day in and day out in the Norwegian HI-FI receiver my dad had imported from USA. Those first pressings of Roberta Flack, Bee-Gees, Antonio Carlos Jobim....that huge, creamy sound from those JBL monitors.

In recent years, I have put together a small 8-track studio (1-inch tape to Pro Tools) that I am very fond of. My main setup has included 442 Digidesign interfaces, English outboard mixers, multitrack analog recorder, nice preamps and Ensoniq Paris. Have been recording music for 8 years, I sing and play the acoustic guitar. Have had a few tracks produced by American producer Bradley Fish. Currently recording/producing my solo debut project.

Software collector, every rare treasure I have found has been shared with the community (Pro Tools 1 complete floppy set, Pro Tools 2.05, Pro Tools 4.2, Cubase VST/24 4.0 CD iso...) and will continue to do so. Consider myself a chilled out guy, aware that this music is not my gift. I am just channeling ;)

Loooove vintage software. Have been using Cubase DAE for years with my 442 interfaces, sweeeeeet spot. One of my favourites engines for 68k for sure. Also enjoy VST/24 4.1 (far superior than the VST/32 Mac port from the Windows code). Yes, this is true.

Currently own too many computers: My main rig is a PT II NuBus inside a PPC 7100/80 that was maxed out + Audiomedia II card with SDII.

Ensoniq Paris 3.0 runs inside my Power Mac G4 (Yikes! Of course) alonside a d24 card with Pro Tools 24 connected to an Apogee AD-8000 Special Edition converter. On the road I use a Powerbook Titanium G4 500Mhz I am VERY fond of with a Motu 828 interface + Apogee Mini-Me converter. And preamps, of course.

If you make music, I would LOVE to hear it!

Enjoy!!
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Post by: DieHard on May 21, 2015, 08:11:51 AM
MusicWorks,

Thanks for the background info., glad to have you :)

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Post by: NiPPonD3nZ0 on June 15, 2015, 05:46:46 AM
Hello there!

My name is André Paixao , i'm 29yo and i'm from a little town called Santarem in Portugal!

I've been around PC's since I know how to walk and always dealt with Wintel only, never touched a mac until 4 months ago. Got a new job and here we deal with everything, Mac included. Decided to ser what the hell was the fuss about Mac OS and installed OS X on my PC, a Core i5 machine but that didn't sounded right, so i bought a old G3 B&W, and gave it a good test run. The B&W is equiped with a Sonnet G4 upgrade card at 1GHz, but after a few weeks the slowliness of it made me want to try the original software the machine came bundled: OS 8. Version 8.6 was all that I could find on-line but is kinda of a mess to get networking up and running, so I am hellbent on trying OS 9 on it!
By the way, I've also bought a couple of more Macs... A case and motherboard of a G4(Yikes!) that I've transplanted a CPU, psu, ram, graphics card and HDD from a G3 B&W I've bought with a dead mobo, but the board I have from the g4 isn't stable though. Also have a beige g3 with a dead CPU and mobo.
The G3 I have working is a Rev1 board, and the G3 dead board I have is a Rev2.
Does anyone know if swapping the dead Rev 2 mobo IDE CMD chip to the working Rev 1 mobo would be making a Rev 2 out of a Rev 1 mobo? I'm a electronic technician and have facilities to do the swap, but would it work???

Best regards and sorry for the messy post, was written on my cell phone while in the hospital bored to my skull
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Post by: supernova777 on June 15, 2015, 07:59:26 AM
dont bother trying to transplant the ide controller.. that would be too dificult.
i have a B&W g3 and what i would reccommend to u is to get either a PCI-sata card or a acard 6880M/6280M IDE controller
this really increases the performance of the g3.. because it jumps it frm ATA33 all the way up (past ATA66, ATA100) to ATA133 (or sata150 for the pci sata card)

in my g3 B&W i have this acard 6880M with two hard drives working together as one
the acard 68xx cards have raid ability via dipswitch.. the acard 62xx cards have no raid but just provide normal ports
either one is great.. u can find a 62xx card for like 20$ on ebay shipped from japan or hongkong
that is what i suggest for u

heres a link
http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xacard+6280M.TRS0&_nkw=acard+6280M&_sacat=0

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Post by: NiPPonD3nZ0 on June 15, 2015, 03:31:58 PM
dont bother trying to transplant the ide controller.. that would be too dificult.
i have a B&W g3 and what i would reccommend to u is to get either a PCI-sata card or a acard 6880M/6280M IDE controller
this really increases the performance of the g3.. because it jumps it frm ATA33 all the way up (past ATA66, ATA100) to ATA133 (or sata150 for the pci sata card)



in my g3 B&W i have this acard 6880M with two hard drives working together as one
the acard 68xx cards have raid ability via dipswitch.. the acard 62xx cards have no raid but just provide normal ports
either one is great.. u can find a 62xx card for like 20$ on ebay shipped from japan or hongkong
that is what i suggest for u

heres a link
http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xacard+6280M.TRS0&_nkw=acard+6280M&_sacat=0

I see... Better to remove the bottleneck by avoiding the whole integrated IDE subsystem... Gotta get me some RAID action just for kicks...

Got another question about OS but will search for the anwser first if it is avaiable
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Post by: supernova777 on June 16, 2015, 12:00:37 PM
exactly right! circumvent the bottleneck u got it  8)
the 6880M is a great match for this machien because it supports mac os 8.6 aswell (similar to teh system itself)

the 6885M offers better speeds but doesnt support 8.6 aswell as the 6880M

and tbh the silicon image sata150 cards work fantastic with a sata3 80gb drive
u get 100MB/s read + write form a single drive that is cheaper then an ssd

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Post by: gravitation on July 25, 2015, 05:16:17 PM
Hello! Used to love tracking in the Amiga days, moved to mactel/logic eventually. Never had a mac since 2008, however I always looked up to the old G4/G5 PPCs (couldn't afford one back then)! Only recently I got a G4 sawtooth and am trying to get started with fooling around OS9.2.2!
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Post by: retromac on October 28, 2015, 10:22:23 AM
Hello there!

My first time ever seeing ProTools at a studio (1996) left me impressed after having been used to the analog stuff for long. There was some functionality in the interface that I have not seen in recent software. You could create a wave and apply real time effects, so you could have on a same track different effects as each portion of a wave rendering could be sliced and have radically different effects in them. I have an old Korg Oasys PCI card which I bought second hand in 2002 on e-bay from Andy West (at one point Dixie Dregs bass player!) and there were never drivers for XP or OSX as the card was a financial flop for Korg and got quickly discontinued. I gave this card a home briefly on a Windows 98 box and then upgraded the OS and so on. Then after a while I wanted to give this card a permanent home so I've got a dual 1.25 MDD on Craigslist and realized a few shortcomings in the software department  :( I happen to own Cubase 32 VST 5 (parallel port dongle and all) but it is for PC. Yet I was hoping the dongle would work on a Mac too. Anyhow, hello to everyone, here I am hoping to get some direction in this endeavor!

Regards from FL and thank you for making such amount of valuable info available and creating this awesome virtual meeting place!
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Post by: mrhappy on October 28, 2015, 10:55:18 AM
Hey there retromac and welcome! If you are looking to run Cubase on your MDD... MAN, did you ever come to the right place!! ;D There's a RIDICULOUSLY GREAT download here, put together by a few of the lads, that will put a fresh OS, Cubase, plugs, VI's, and a bunch of other great stuff onto your MDD... AND it will literally do this in just a FEW minutes... it's CRAZY GREAT!!!

Soooo... go directly here... http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2716.0

BTW... keep extra toilet paper on hand cause you'll need it after you hit the 'restore' button!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: retromac on October 28, 2015, 07:02:12 PM
(http://blog.toiletpaperworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/toptoiletpaper2.jpg)

Thank you, Thank you, thank you!!!!

On my way there!!  :D
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Post by: 3rd Degree on October 28, 2015, 07:05:05 PM
Hi there. Long time Mac user going back to the early 1990s. My first Mac was a IIci, my most recent a 15' 2012 MacBook Pro (the last Apple laptop with user expandable RAM). In between I've owned everything from a PowerBook 180 to a Umax Powertower 180 clone - I buy all my computers second hand and modify them to requirements. I'm also a former Apple certified hardware, software and help desk technician, with a specialty in Mac audio - though that was about 10 years ago and I'm no longer in IT. I still make music though, mostly in Ableton and Logic Pro on my MacBook.

About a month ago a neighbour was putting out their kerbside rubbish when I spied a Titanium Powerbook. He confirmed it was being thrown out so I took it home and lo and behold it fired up on MacOS 10.4 and told me it was the 1GHz model with 768MB RAM. Remembering that this was the last and fastest Powerbook that could 'officially' run MacOS 9 I did some Googling and found this site. Downloaded a few different installer images and proceeded to wipe the drive and install MacOS 9. I hadn't looked at this OS for at least 10 years so the memories came flooding back - Extensions! Control Panels! Chooser! Happy days. I'd forgotten how snappy the OS is and how the 'curved' 3D user interface really helps speed up navigation compared to modern 'flat' UI design. The only wrinkle is that this laptop has a busted USB port that was shorting the logic board.  I've fixed the short, which doesn't seem to have affected reliability but the laptop won't load Apple Hardware Test or other model-specific installers.

Anyway, I'd thrown out my MacOS 9 audio software years ago (anyone remember Hotline?) so it was great to see all the old favourites again - Logic 4.8, Ableton Live 4, Pro 53, Imposcar and of course Rebirth. I've now got a great setup where all sequencing is done on Ableton 9 in the Macbook and sent via MIDI to the Powerbook running Ableton 4 , which hosts VSTi's and receives Rebirth audio via Rewire.  This audio is then mixed down to about 10 channels  and sent back to the Macbook via two MOTU 828s connected via lightpipe and coax SPDIF.  Rock solid and sounds fantastic - no need for loads of outboard gear anymore (though I won't be selling my Moog Sub 37 anytime soon). 

So finally a heartfelt thanks to those who set up and maintain this site. I think it's a real achievement to have consolidated so much knowledge in one place and not allow it to be lost. Any questions please fire away, but in the meantime I'll be tweaking some 303s in Rebirth...
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Post by: supernova777 on October 28, 2015, 07:41:46 PM
jealous of the sub 37  8) 8) 8)
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Post by: DieHard on October 28, 2015, 08:03:55 PM
Thanks for the info :)

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... won't be selling my Moog Sub 37 anytime soon

Come now, you really don't want that old, obsolete, thing...

There is a real surge in going back to analog synths...

A must see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icGWQZw5n24
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Post by: mrhappy on October 29, 2015, 08:10:33 AM

 I've now got a great setup where all sequencing is done on Ableton 9 in the Macbook and sent via MIDI to the Powerbook running Ableton 4 , which hosts VSTi's and receives Rebirth audio via Rewire.  This audio is then mixed down to about 10 channels  and sent back to the Macbook via two MOTU 828s connected via lightpipe and coax SPDIF.  Rock solid and sounds fantastic


Hey there and welcome 3rd Degree... sounds like you've got quite a fun setup going' on there!! ;D
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Post by: mrhappy on October 29, 2015, 08:13:19 AM

I'd forgotten how snappy the OS is and how the 'curved' 3D user interface really helps speed up navigation compared to modern 'flat' UI design.

Exactly!!! ;D ;D
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Post by: mrhappy on October 29, 2015, 08:15:43 AM

A must see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icGWQZw5n24

I watched that on Netflix a while ago but didn't know there was a 'Hardcore' edition!! ;D
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Post by: 3rd Degree on October 29, 2015, 08:34:15 PM
jealous of the sub 37  8) 8) 8)
Yeah - it's so well laid out and flexible. I think it's the best synth package Moog have put together since the minimoog (big call I know). All the knobs transmit CC and NRPN, and you can also separate the panel from the sound engine. This means it's easy to set up a midi channel switcher in Logic or Ableton  to control which synth (real or virtual) is controlled by the panel.
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Post by: retromac on November 03, 2015, 09:07:49 AM
Thank you Mr Happy, DieHard and everyone who's contributing to the cause!

Was able to follow the instructions and I'm truly impressed!!!

I was incidentally wondering if you were familiar with Nemesys Gigasampler (then bough and brought down by Tascam). It was a great sampler.

Haven't started doing any music yet but tested synths and all.

AMAZING!!!

Have only 768 megs of RAM. I'm sure it will improve by doubling it. I might have some RAM laying around somewhere in the garage.

Can't wait to read about the water cooled solutions someone said were possible for less than $50 as this is at the moment the only drawback with my MDD setup.

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
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Post by: supernova777 on November 04, 2015, 06:06:52 AM
u are fine with 768mb of ram.. u dont need any more ram..
mac os 9 performance does not increase with more ram for most people
most people think more = better.. and it usually is.. but if u were to put a g4 of the same type
with 768 mb ram.. vs one with 1gb. vs one with 1.5gb.. there would be little difference in the performance.
like.. unnoticable difference. as long as u have 512mb ram + u are ok with mac os 9
512mb ram was TONS of ram in 98/99.. to put it in perspective.. mac os 9 was from the time period of win98 and windows 98 cant use more then 512mb of ram in fact it wont boot with more installed.
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Post by: theNathanBaker on November 06, 2015, 01:57:49 PM
Hello everyone!

I've been a lurker for quite some time and figured I should just become a member already!

My name is Nathan, I'm 34 years old, and from the MS Gulf Coast. Currently I'm a self-employed web developer and write/produce music on the side.  I've used Apple computers my entire life starting with the Apple IIe, then became obsessed with Macs at what I consider an appropriate age.

I love the Classic Mac OS. There is just something about it that speaks to me. (Perhaps it's simply nostalgia, but it just feels more than that.) Obviously, I'm not the only one. :)

However, I don't hate Mac OS X. I love it as well. Particularly 10.2 - 10.6. Beyond Snow Leopard, I am quickly becoming less enchanted with the direction Apple is taking OS X.

I'm looking forward to being a contributing member of this insanely great community!
(I couldn't resist the "insanely great" reference.. don't judge me!)
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Post by: mrhappy on November 08, 2015, 08:55:24 PM
Hey there Nathan! Welcome aboard! ;D
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Post by: DieHard on November 10, 2015, 05:20:53 PM
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Particularly 10.2 - 10.6. Beyond Snow Leopard, I am quickly becoming less enchanted with the direction Apple is taking OS X.

Just put 2 out of 4 Mac Pros down to 10.6.8 and Logic 9.1.8, The Mavericks, Yosemite file transfer lag and a bunch of bugs in Logic X and bring me down :( and "El Captain" for music is "El Crap-tain"

SL and Logic 9 is the Intel equivalent to Mac OS 9 and a vintage DAW in the stability department
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Post by: badssound on November 14, 2015, 03:29:21 PM
HI!
I'M from Karelia,( not from Korea  :) . Its Russia near Finland.
 In 1997 i start working sound producer in small  studio. The fist DAW is a Logic Audio 4.1 on Power Pc.
and small Mackie 1604cr. Now i used Pro Tools HD and many differnt outboard units. I was made many records and produce some bands. But still like old Emagic Logic platinum.
I have collection of audio soft and apps for os8-9. And i want share this with other.
Thank you for the attention.

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Post by: devils_advisor on November 14, 2015, 03:33:29 PM
HI!
I'M from Karelia,( not from Korea  :) . Its Russia near Finland.
 In 1997 i start working sound producer in small  studio. The fist DAW is a Logic Audio 4.1 on Power Pc.
and small Mackie 1604cr. Now i used Pro Tools HD and many differnt outboard units. I was made many records and produce some bands. But still like old Emagic Logic platinum.
I have collection of audio soft and apps for os8-9. And i want share this with other.
Thank you for the attention.

welcome to the bunch and thanks for introducing yourself. Nice to have you onboard.
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Post by: devils_advisor on November 14, 2015, 07:23:22 PM
I guess its time to spread the way i got to macs and os9
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Post by: MacTron on November 15, 2015, 12:24:44 PM
Welcome badssound  :)
I have collection of audio soft and apps for os8-9. And i want share this with other.
Thank you for the attention.

Do you have some plugins , audio or MIDI app that there isn't on the download sections?
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Post by: badssound on November 15, 2015, 03:23:45 PM
yes, i have some original cds and more copy. I collect this more than 15 years.
I try to make short list.
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Post by: harpi on November 16, 2015, 10:21:32 AM
Hello,

and greetings from Finland. I'm planning to set up a little DAW with 2003 MDD, M-Audio Delta 66 and Omni I/O box. I'm very pleased that I found this site because for now on it's been very helpful for me. Thank you.
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Post by: mrhappy on November 16, 2015, 11:52:24 AM
Hey there harpi... welcome aboard!

Hello,

I'm very pleased that I found this site because for now on it's been very helpful for me. Thank you.

Yes indeed!! For me that would be quite the understatement!! ;D ;D
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Post by: alenu on November 17, 2015, 01:57:18 AM
Hi! Here´s Ale from Argentina. I´m a musician, composer and arranger. I make my living doing string arrangements, music for films, jingles, and the like. I´m a songwriter too, and produce my own recordings since i was fifteen. I love vintage hardware and stuff and one of my hobbies is to record myself on my old trusty Tascam 414 4-Track cassette Portastudio. I´m a PowerPC enthusiast and i think PPC Macs are the best computers ever made. Have three of them: 1,67 gHz PowerBook G4, 800mHz iBook G4, and 1gHz Titanium PB G4. Don´t have much experience with OS 9 but i´ve recently installed it on the Ti Book and it seems to be a very nice platform for audio purposes. By the way, this community is awesome and i´m learning a lot here!
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Post by: widter on November 17, 2015, 02:48:35 AM
Hey and hello!

I have been with the forum for a while, but have not yet introduced myself.

I was born in Switzerland, but have lived in Austria for decades now. I got into Macs very early with the SE. Then there was a pause. When audio production without extra PT hardware became a reality around '96, my interest for Apple Mac returned.

I bought Logic Platinum twice, once around '99 and then again incrementally up until 2005 or so. I still have a lot of licenses for OS9, and since Emagics MIDI timing still has to be beaten, I have stuck with my "old" setup.

Although I have collected a lot of software for OS9 back in the day, I have still discovered new things in this forum. Quite a bit of which I still have to try out! :-)

So happy sharing, everybody. It's good to know there are other dinosaur lovers out there.
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Post by: JAPP on November 17, 2015, 05:02:11 PM
Hello everyone,
I joined a couple of weeks ago - realized tonight that its time I said "hey". I'm just a keyboard hobbyist who stumbled on An old clamshell at a thrift store and thought it might open up some new and interesting midi avenues. I'm quite surprised to find that so many other people are interested in working with the vintage stuff, it's going to make this just that much more fun. Until later,
JaPP
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Post by: svetitom on November 18, 2015, 06:14:42 PM
Hi,
 Glad to be here.
I composed a long message and sent it to Diehard, If he gets it he can post it. Aparrently I hit the wrong button (again),
Thanks, Bill kennick

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NP Bill... Here it is :)


Hi,
Back in 1971 I was paying big bucks to use a Univac programming in Fortran. Later I bought an Intel 4004 chipset and had some precocious kid try to build me a computer, $500 lost for a box of parts. Finally I got a Heathkit and switched to BASIC and HDOS. Upgraded to an 8086 chip. First 16K of memory cost $400. Had something called  Zenith Electronic typing which was almost as good as Word. Any way, I had and built maybe 50 computers. I once put Yellow Dog Linux on an Imac and have recently built a Hackintosh (but everything has to be USB or it won't work. What brings me here is I am trying to get my Korg keyboard to input into a midi file. It used to work on the Quadra and the Performa but now I am stuck with USB etc etc. Oh, I use Fedora22 on a new box and also windows 7 for "photoshopping" with Gimp.
I like Windows XP for video. Somehow I got it to run on a new box. I don't  know how exactly.. I  am going to have to set up something for video capture when Mars comes around again next spring. I guess my real regret is that I never learned assembly language (and binary). I have a fourteen year old son (who knows just about everything there is to know) who told me that midi files are old fashioned. But I am thinking of doing Hungarian Rhapsody No. 5 on the piano keyboard and then correcting the mistakes in MIDI. This for my daughters Ballet teacher. I had better get this done before I grow more senile than I am already. I like to buy computers at the "trailing edge" of technology when they are about 90 percent cheaper. But I did build 3 new boxes (actually, new motherboard, old hard drives, old cdroms, old tower boxes. My wife tells me that when I die they are going to have to rent a dumpster and throw away my boxes and boxes of old rs-232 cables , parallel interface cables. etc. What am looking for and cant find is all my old apple transport cables. I used to put old beige g3s in gamer's tower boxes. Anyway I would be a lot more financially solvent if I had taken up another hobby than electronics, but ever since I took apart my mother's telephone and then put it back together before she got home (with some parts left over) I have been more or less hooked on taking apart machines that run on electricity. Sorry to say that the new cell phones leave me cold. The best I can do there  is take out the battery so that my wife wont bother me when I'm busy..
Bill Kennick (svetitom)
Title: Re: Members Introduction...and question
Post by: greatinterface on November 18, 2015, 07:38:55 PM
Hi guys ,this is Nick from Greatinterface still chugging away on several 1,25 g4s using logic 4,7 can get a bit sticky running 24 trks with too many plugins and virtual synths but I still love it ,was considering getting a couple of unitors for sync run ,audio on one machine and synths on the other . the little mt4s really cleaned up my midi as I used to have a lot of probs with the motu midi timepiece and that extra layer of software formerly known as OMS ,now banished . By the way I am the guy who clarified the no more than 1 gig of ram problem with logic in Os 9 ,was there ever a work around for that ? Anyway  another on going quest is to truly be able to CLONE a drive ,I have asked you Os 9 GODS about this before and of coarse its easy to move all files from one drive to another and make a bootable copy but that does not bring up the old desk top or my nicely arranged program icons ,I am still missing something .I guess I need Carbon copy or similar  have looked on the site but cant seem to find it ,any suggestions . Thanks for all the great archiving and all that you have done to provide support to all the other os9 diehards out there
                                 all the best
                                    Nick
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: GaryN on November 18, 2015, 09:44:05 PM
Welcome Niok!

I have something here that might be just what you're looking for. It's intended to remember and reset your desktop when you change monitor resolutions but it might work for you. Your problem is probably NOT that you're cloning / moving drives, but that you're ending up on a different monitor. This app simply remembers the positions and such of all things on your desktop, then restores them on command. It might help... who knows?
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: greatinterface on November 18, 2015, 11:12:56 PM
Got it, thanks will try it ,but do you think it would solve the original cloning problem if I booted in osx ,ran an osx version of ccc and then changed the startup drive to os9 on the new drive .I am running on a MDD 1.25 with a nice clean system built from the original restore discs which set up for dual boot with all my os 9 stuff totally smooth .I could build a new drive and reinstall everything but i wanna clone
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Philgood on November 19, 2015, 03:32:03 AM
Hi to all new members.

...I have asked you Os 9 GODS about this before and of coarse its easy to move all files from one drive to another and make a bootable copy but that does not bring up the old desk top or my nicely arranged program icons ,I am still missing something .I guess I need Carbon copy or similar  have looked on the site but cant seem to find it ,any suggestions ...

I think you can use Apple's DiskCopy and ASR to archive best results!
It even should preserve many Software Activations and i think desktop appearance too.

Download it from the forum.
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1822.0

Made public by courtesy of this awesome forum!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on November 19, 2015, 06:11:11 AM
Welcome Ale, winter, JAPP, svetitom and greatinterface!!


"The best I can do there  is take out the battery so that my wife wont bother me when I'm busy.."


It's tips like these that really help out all of us here!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: ovalking on November 19, 2015, 12:29:29 PM
I first used a Mac at work in the last 80s - a Plus with system 5 I think. This was totally different to any other computer I'd used, and soon fell in love with it.
My first (and last) brand new Mac purchase was in 1994 - a Performa 475 which still sees use today.
The most modern Mac I own is a G4 933, whilst I'm writing this on a PM8500 running my favourite OS - 8.1. It all started to go down hill after that....
I've tried using alternative OSs but they just annoy me.
I use my Macs for all sorts of things, but mainly for data processing tasks. My audio escapades are limited to creating some alerts via the built-in microphone!
I've been reading the forum for a while but think this is my first post. I would use it more if it was more Mac web browser friendly....
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: dougkeener on November 19, 2015, 12:35:33 PM
Hello From the Pacific Northwest.  I cut my teeth on an Atari ST running Cubase, then later moved to a Performa.  I recently literally dug a MDD out the trash and got it running.  I am very grateful for this resource as I find most new systems too bloated to get any real work done. Thanks again!

Doug Keener
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: GaryN on November 19, 2015, 01:29:16 PM
I've been reading the forum for a while but think this is my first post. I would use it more if it was more Mac web browser friendly....

Do you use Classilla? If not, why not?

http://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Philgood on November 19, 2015, 04:09:20 PM
I understood he is using 8.1 and i think classila would need 8.6 minimum
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: GaryN on November 19, 2015, 08:58:23 PM
That's actually a very good reason…
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: nanopico on November 20, 2015, 06:39:01 AM
I just realized I never really posted in this thread to introduce myself.

Hi!

My first experience with a Mac was also my first experience with a computer and it was on a Mac TV.  What a odd, limited machine that was. I still use it today for some midi things just for nostalgic purposes.

Next I got a Clamshell iBook and started doing recording on that with Cubase.  Since then I've pretty much kept up with getting on of every major change in the iBook line. 

So there is my Mac history.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: trent3 on November 20, 2015, 10:08:41 AM
Hi macos9lives! Glad I stumbled across this forum. I've been producing eletronica since the late 90's.  Had an old Mix|24 in the early 2000's and loved it! Rock solid platform on an old G4 MDD with OS9.2.2. Couldn't be happier to find a group of like-minded individuals who are keeping this great OS alive and kicking.  -afro-
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: MysticCow on November 20, 2015, 11:46:24 AM
Heavens, I never did inroduce myself and I've been lurking for so long!

I've been a Mac user since I bought my iMac G3 700 in 2001 (and it still works!).  Over time, my little collection has grown to include:

1. The first one--iMac G3 700 MHz
2. PowerBook G4 that I regrettably sold
3. iBook G3 900 MHz that fell victim to the infamous logic board failure
4. PowerMac G4 Digital Audio 733 MHz
5. PowerMac G5 dual 2.0 GHz
6. Intel Mac mini core i5 (mid 2011) with the Radeon graphics

I actually found this site thanks to MacRumors and their equally wonderful PowerPC forum.  And since my G5 is now running 10.5 and my mini runs El Cap, I decided to use my G4 DA for Mac OS 9 use only.  In fact, I'm posing from it using Classilla.

I am also a licensed music teacher and use a lot of specialized software for Mac, some of which I am trying to find a least an equivalent under OS 9.  This forum is a GODSEND for someone like me.  :D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: GaryN on November 20, 2015, 02:57:32 PM
WOW !! Welcome, welcome all !
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: ovalking on November 21, 2015, 09:47:39 AM

Do you use Classilla? If not, why not?

http://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/

I do when using OS8.6+ machines, like today when I'm on a G4 400. But it's not my first choice, due mainly to slow speed and high memory requirements. It would be nice if IE wasn't blocked from this site....
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Etienne on November 23, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
Hi :-)

From 1989 till 1994 I was working in an office and got in touch with macs. I did enjoy the exact positive user experience everybody's talking about. My first private computer was a G4 PowerMac (sawtooth) in 1999. Ready for the new millennium. I was studying music and MacOS9 was my reliable companion for many years. 9 is running definitely smoother than X on this machine.

Nonetheless since 2010 I own a MacPro and do my main work on MacOSX. What I really miss are my favorite 9-progs like D-SoundPro, Infinity and SonicWorx. I can't find something similar in the X-world. Because I don't have my G4 anymore I'm running SheepShaver for these sample tools right now. Perhaps I'm going to buy PPC again - we'll see.

Glad to be here and best regards
Etienne


 

Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: GaryN on November 23, 2015, 11:15:26 PM
What I really miss are my favorite 9-progs like D-SoundPro, Infinity and SonicWorx. Because I don't have my G4 anymore I'm running SheepShaver for these sample tools right now.

Welcome Etienne! I don't know about D-Sound and Infinity, but I'll bet you can run Sonicworx in Sheepshaver and it's right HERE:

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=856.0

Give it a try and tell us what happens!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Etienne on November 24, 2015, 12:10:21 AM
Welcome Etienne!
Hi Gary!

I don't know about D-Sound and Infinity, but I'll bet you can run Sonicworx in Sheepshaver
D-Sound and Infinity working here in SheepShaver so far. My problem is the installation of SonicWorx. I got an error. Incomplete or damaged installer. That happens with files I've downloaded from elsewhere. Also from within OS9-SheepShaver.

it's right HERE: http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=856.0
Can't access the file right now.

Give it a try and tell us what happens!
... I will tell you
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Alex on November 24, 2015, 12:01:25 PM
Hello

I have been a member for a little while but I had no idea that I could introduce myself.

First of all, thank you to the moderators and the people responsible for this amazing resource. I have to use it much more.

Well, I have been a Mac user since 1985 or so but my first Mac was a IIx that I purchased circa 1987. I purchased it with a 13" Apple Color Monitor (a Trinitron tube) and a 24 bit color card. Having millions of colors back then was quite incredible and the card I had with a little init could give me 256 color or was it thousands BUT the desktop was tall and I could scroll the virtual desktop. Does anyone remember that?

I have never actually owned PC believe it or not but I do collect Macs and Apple related software and hardware. I have a modest list of Macs and as I write this I am in the middle of cleaning up a really beautiful Power Mac G4 Quicksilver.

I also am a regular contributor and participant on the "Apple Macintosh Enthusiasts" Facebook group, which is actually a very nice hangout but now that I remember Mac OS 9 lives I will be coming here with some questions for sure.

A real treat to be here and thank you for taking the time to read my post.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: tyronesdaddy on November 24, 2015, 01:07:29 PM
Hello All,
I joined  a week or so back and thought I would introduce myself.  I have been a Mac user since around 1996 or 97 when I bought a Performa 6400.  I bought a PowerMac MDD867 in early 2003 and it currently runs OS 10.4.11 and 9.2.2.  I also have an Imac (mid 2010) core I3 running Snow Leopard and Mavericks.  I really have to say I like Snow Leopard best of any OS I have ever used.  The Imac also has Win XP via bootcamp.  From a usability and stability standpoint I have to say XP is a pile of crap compared to OS X.  I use Classic on the MDD machine for some productivity apps like Photoshop and File Maker and the OS 9 for some games mostly. 
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: khun on November 27, 2015, 11:16:56 PM
Back to the forum
 -afro-
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: 1836 on November 28, 2015, 11:33:21 PM
Hi! Lifetime Mac user here looking to recapture the "good old days" of Mac OS 9 and particularly, take advantage of the myriad abandonware now available for this classic OS.

Recently purchased a Powerbook G4 Titanium, much like the one that I had years ago. Looking forward to getting it to boot into OS 9 (not quite sure how yet!). At 1Ghz, it's way faster than the 667 I actually had back when those were new.

I also have an old iBook G3 Clamshell 466 that I need to get running OS 9. I wonder if I can do this from a USB drive?

I look forward to the discussions!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on November 29, 2015, 06:55:22 AM

. Looking forward to getting it to boot into OS 9 (not quite sure how yet!). At 1Ghz, it's way faster than the 667 I actually had back when those were new


This might get you started!  ;D

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=900.0
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: pfaffian on December 01, 2015, 01:01:57 AM
Hi All,

I'm interested in Opcode Galaxy editors.

Cheers,

Pfaffian
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: kloveland on December 02, 2015, 10:40:42 AM
I have a G3 setup in my office that I still use. It’s running Mac OS 9.2.2 and I use it to run all of my old software. Even though it’s outdated it’s still a great computer and the older operating is so much easier to use and diagnose when I have problems.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: torvan on December 02, 2015, 03:01:29 PM
Oh wow, where in the heck do I start?

Well, my name is Troy, and I have been on this earth for 47 years now, which means-yeah, I go back to the original Macintosh although my first one was the Mac Plus. Now i have 13 Macs ranging from that Plus to the 2014 Mini i7. I am running everything from System 6 to 10.11.1.

But out of all of them, it is OS9 that still has my heart. the way you can customize the look and feel, the speed it has on modernish hardware, and the apps designed by folks who knew what "Think Different" really meant. Plus machines that reflected personality as opposed to the prison like feel of the modern design. There is only so many rectangle aluminum boxes one can have. . . . .

I have been with the same man since 1993 and finally could marry him in 2011. I still say I have been married since 1993 because I would have done it then if I could have.  He accepts my Mac "addiction" much as I accept his car "addiction". He uses the iPad much more than I ever hope to, so that "addiction" is slowly spreading....

I have worked for the other camp (Microsoft) in the MBU (Mac Business Unit) for way too many years before moving to Wachovia (more money, better schedule, closer commute) which as you know went up in flames during the housing crises earlier this decade. Since then I have been a stay-at-home husband and find this career is much more to my likes. 

So, the machines:

Mac Plus
Mac SE/30
PowerMac 7300/200
iMac DV+ G3
G4 iMac USB2 20" (what I am using right now)
G4 QS (2002)
G4 Cube (500 Mhz)
G4 MDD FW800
eMac USB 2.0
G5 dual 1.8Ghz
iMac Intel (2007)
Mac Pro Intel 2.8 Ghz 8 Core
2014 Mac Mini i7
iPad 2.0

Politically I am a moderate, although anymore I feel there is no real choice in the system save the Green Party, you either vote for the moneyed classes and the oligarchs or you go a different direction all together. Oh, and I do support Cascadia. . . . .

But then again, I do "Think Different" anyway, and that is why I am a Mac man.
Title: Members Introduction...
Post by: CTSAudio on December 08, 2015, 01:13:44 AM
Found this site while trying to locate OS9 resources to rebuild my Protools Mix 24. rig using 9600/300, G3,G4 in various configurations for a small format recording studio and some audio engineering on the side.

I enjoy both analog and digital audio, and currently run a sideline audio business. build and repair vintage audio gear. I enjoy recording and playing drums, guitar, keys , and bass. business link below

https://sites.google.com/site/diypartsstore/home

I have owned many Macs , worked as a Mac service provider in my early years of employment as a Apple factory certified tech. years ago , 020,030,040 and early PPC era in Silicon Valley. Also worked for Avid /Digidesign , Adobe , and in broadcast radio.

You could say I like to mix art and technology together in various ways. Appreciate the opportunity to become part of this online community.

I still have a PB180c that i love to play an old strategy game by Sid Meiers , Civilization I . One of my favorite old Macs running OS 7.5.3 . Nostalgic entertainment. The AI on this game really has a tantrum when its loosing. very amusing.


Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on December 08, 2015, 06:24:40 AM
Hello and welcome to the 'new kids'! ;D

CTSAudio... had fun kicking' around your DIY site... seems I've been getting the itch to build some old school audio stuff. Built some guitar amps @ 20 years ago (that I still use today) but mostly just the occasional repair these days. ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: CTSAudio on December 09, 2015, 12:06:34 AM
Thanks for your reply,(audio) its fun stuff , just wish I had more time on my hands. Finding this Forum to be a great place so far. I'll have to contribute some goodies to the software library.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: cc333 on December 09, 2015, 08:28:24 PM
Hi There,

I'm new here, but I've been fairly active at ThinkClassic and 68kMLA for some time now, and I thought I'd try expanding a bit, as I have recently begun to learn Pro Tools, and I thought it'd be fun to someday figure out how to set it up on one of my many PPC Macs running Mac OS 9.

I look forward to contributing here more often!

c
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on December 09, 2015, 09:13:39 PM
Welcome aboard Kultronic and cc333! There's a pretty good Cubase and PT contingent here so you should be right at home!😁
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Gardeive on December 10, 2015, 11:33:05 AM
Hey! My name is Kamil.

While I was not raised in a family that used Macs, I always had a thing for either older or simply uncommon computers - the Amiga, Macintosh, Atari and so on. Since Macs were not really popular back in the day in my country I opted in to look hard for a few. Well, today I got a PowerBook G3 Lombard with a dead L2 Cache (that comes back after long, warm sessions of Mac games :D) and I just got a PowerMac G4, literally 2 hours ago. I'm still grabbing a proper ISO because my old CDs stopped working for some reason...

Anyways, that's it - I'm mostly here to have fun as I love Macs, especially the old ones! :)

Keep on thinking differently ;)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: AtariMan on December 11, 2015, 08:46:29 AM
Hello! I'm from Russia. Powered by G4, Logic Audio 5 and Pro Tools 5.
Midi writing on ATARI MEGA ST 4.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on December 11, 2015, 10:43:14 AM
I love Macs, especially the old ones! :)


I guess you came to the right place then!! ;D

Welcome!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on December 11, 2015, 10:46:04 AM
Welcome AtariMan from Russia! Looks like you cover a lot of ground with your Logic/PT/Atari set up! ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: probot on December 14, 2015, 09:14:08 PM
hey,

i'm using macs since 1999, started with a g3. then got a g4 sawtooth and then a mdd 1.25ghz. currently i'm on a macbook pro which serves all my needs just fine but i want to resurrect the old mdd as daw for fun.

cheers
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: GaryN on December 15, 2015, 02:23:55 PM
Welcome probot! You've definitely come to the right place!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on December 15, 2015, 03:02:57 PM
i want to resurrect the old mdd as daw for fun.


And fun it will be!! ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: rabbitfist on December 19, 2015, 12:19:34 PM
Hi, thanks for adding me. I starting using cubase vst on a mac back in 1996 and have been wanting to get my old set up running in an emulator for years. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on December 20, 2015, 10:07:27 AM
Welcome Rabbitfist... If you're a Cubase fan you're gonna want to check out this ridiculously good download that DieHard and MacTron put together... it installs in about 2 minutes and will give you a fresh OS 9.2.2/ Cubase and tons of plugs/instruments... CRAZY cool!!! Go get it!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2716.0
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: TheBang on December 21, 2015, 11:15:30 AM
Good day all.  I've been using Macs since 1985, and look back with wistful nostalgia at the System 6, 7 days.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: nuanda966 on December 22, 2015, 12:02:50 AM
Hello,
happy to join you in this vintage forum and site.

I'm from Italy and i use Mac since 1984

I'm a proud user of :
- Color Classic II
- 20th anniversary Mac - TAM with supercharged CPU , Sonnet G3 500 mhz and plenty of add-on.
- Cube supercharged


i'm very happy to find again some enthusiast of these unique machine and OS's .

Thanks

Max


Title: Hello All
Post by: Mardeec on December 22, 2015, 08:14:46 AM
Hi Everyone,

I'm not sure how this happened, but one day I woke up, and it made sense to start collecting old Macs.  I have a Classic II, 7.0.1 that I was able to connect to the web using an Asante EN/SC adapter, and I picked up a Summer 2000 500 Mhz iMAC G3 on Craigslist for $40.  It has 10.2.8, but my plans are to install 9.2.2 and Cubasis VST 2.0, and use it with an M-Audio Firewire 410 interface that I picked up cheap.

I'm glad I found this site, and it's encouraging to find others so committed to keeping these Macs alive.  I've already learned a lot, and hope I can contribute something as I work on the iMac.

Marty     
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on December 22, 2015, 09:20:09 AM
Welcome TheBang and nuanda966... you're in good company now!!  ;D ;D

Those are some 'fancy' Macs that you have there Max!! ;D

Ciao
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Philgood on December 23, 2015, 10:20:46 AM
I like these iMacs G3 as music machines because they are so quiet. Miss that when I use my current work horse.
My single 1.25 MDD...(and I already replaced the power supply fans)
I always found my iMac as powerful for MIDI production with some virtual instruments.

Title: Re: Hello All
Post by: mrhappy on December 23, 2015, 04:43:36 PM

 I picked up a Summer 2000 500 Mhz iMAC G3 on Craigslist for $40. 

Can't go wrong for 40 bucks!!😁😁
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Iria2 on December 25, 2015, 05:23:37 AM
Hey all!

I'm from the US, specifically Portland. I've been dabbling in vintage Macs for a few years now. I'm right at home with my Snakebite G4 and my SE/30 (which I recapped myself). I love to tinker and make up new ways to exacerbate old problems!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: slash606 on December 25, 2015, 02:38:18 PM
Hey all,

I'm here mainly because I was deeply interested in Korg's OASYS PCI card and the physical modelling technology available with it. I started off trying to do a Win98 build, but I ran into more problems than were worth fixing, so I bought an MDD and this forum has been a blessing with all of its software! ;D

So now, I'll lurk around and post whenever I can!

Charles  -afro-
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: tomekx on December 27, 2015, 07:54:57 AM
Hello.
Old Mac was my first computer in the studio. Still using it today. Nice to see people running the same old mac as i do.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: bwait on December 28, 2015, 11:07:08 PM
Hi everyone,

So glad to have found this forum. I was a long-time user of opcode studio vision, and even before that the original opcode sequencer. In fact, I got a personal demo and my first of copy of sequencer and galaxy editor from Dave Opennheim himself at his home in Palo Alto.  I think he was the sole developer at that time, and sequencer had not been officially released.  I gave up (sort of) on SVP when Gibson gave up on it.  I switched to ProTools, but still miss the MIDI support and ease of use of SVP. So, here I am, back setting up a QS G4 to run SVP. 

Feel free to drop me a message if you want to share fond memories of the old MIDI 1.0 days. I appreciate the expertise shared on this forum and hope to contribute to it as well once I get back into the fray.

-Brad 
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: DieHard on December 30, 2015, 02:11:30 PM
From BWait
Quote
I got a personal demo and my first of copy of sequencer and galaxy editor from Dave Opennheim himself at his home in Palo Alto.

Wow... that is an amazing story, it was an exciting time to see Musicians start utilizing and embracing computers, now I feel old... thanks for sharing :)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: zErec on December 31, 2015, 11:09:35 AM
Hello dear Users.

Glad I found this cool Website/Forum recently.

I´m 38y old z!Erec from Germany.
Since 1985 Amiga longtime User.
I loved and still love to use my Amiga A4000T and Shapeshifter/Fusion (OS 7/8) and even iFusion G3 Mac Emulator (OS9).

In the meanwhile I have collected quiet many original Macs.

15" PowerBook G4 1.67GHz (MacOS/MorphOS)
MacMini G5 1.5GHz (MacOS/MorphOS)
PowerMac G4 MDD DP 1.42GHz
PowerMac G5 2.5GHz Quad (MacOS 10.4/10.5/ (new)LinuxPPC)

next to

Amiga CD32/SX32Pro
Amiga A600 w Vampire600 FPGA Accelerator
Amiga A4000T/PPC
AmigaOne X1000 (DP 1.8GHz PA-Semi) with AmigaOS 4.1.FE & (4.x Betas)
Atari Falcon X 68060/SuperVidel Combo


Hope to meet many cool people here ;-)

C´ya
z!E
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Post by: mrhappy on January 01, 2016, 07:13:56 AM

15" PowerBook G4 1.67GHz (MacOS/MorphOS)
MacMini G5 1.5GHz (MacOS/MorphOS)
PowerMac G4 MDD DP 1.42GHz
PowerMac G5 2.5GHz Quad (MacOS 10.4/10.5/ (new)LinuxPPC)

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Amiga CD32/SX32Pro
Amiga A600 w Vampire600 FPGA Accelerator
Amiga A4000T/PPC
AmigaOne X1000 (DP 1.8GHz PA-Semi) with AmigaOS 4.1.FE & (4.x Betas)
Atari Falcon X 68060/SuperVidel Combo



Nice collection! ;D

Never used Amiga but they seemed very cool!!
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Post by: macaddiiict on January 01, 2016, 01:49:14 PM
Hello, all! I was very happy to come across this site. I have been a Mac fan since I first played Brickles on one in 4th grade. My first Mac was a Performa 6360 from Sears (ha! man, that thing was awesome).

Over time, my educational options pushed me to Windows and then I made my way back to Mac OS X in college. I enjoyed OS X from 10.3 to 10.5, but then I started to feel disconnected and didn't enjoy it as much. I ping-ponged between Windows and Mac over the years, upgrading my Mac constantly, hoping to get that sense of satisfaction I had on OS 9 machines. I had a retina MBP and upgraded to 10.10 and just really didn't like it at all. It was enough of a mess that I got the crazy idea to go back to OS 9 completely.

I am the happy owner of a nice Titanium Powerbook 1GHz and a Dual 1GHZ Quicksilver. I am enjoying being back in the OS 9 world and feel like the limits I've run into on the systems are actually helpful. Short filenames make me be thoughtful about what I name things. Limited icon sizes for image previews make me file things in a way that makes sense rather than one big folder. And having the looming chance of a crash makes me think about what resources I am using on the computer rather than trying to do 100 things at once.

I haven't found a good OS-9 browser compatible email service (webmail), but perhaps I'll get there one of these days. Thanks for welcoming me to this community -- it is fun to relive some of the good stuff I remember, and even better to know I won't have to deal with upgrades and headaches from new software.

All the best and happy 2016!
-Stephen
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Post by: GaryN on January 01, 2016, 05:00:13 PM
I haven't found a good OS-9 browser compatible email service (webmail), but perhaps I'll get there one of these days.

Have you tried Classilla?
http://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/
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Post by: mikepreddymusic@gmail.com on January 03, 2016, 01:35:27 PM
I have loved the Mac operating system since my 1988 Mac Plus. I fooled around with DOS at the same time, and watched it slowly evolve into a clunky simulation of the Mac OS. Who remembers Windows 3.0? Anyway, I had fun with PCs because my dad and I liked to tinker with the innards of the things, and to this day, I run both. However, I have this G4 that I really love to mess with. Inside and out. I have set it up, torn it down, set it up, and torn it down I can't tell you how many times. The OS 9.1 is as smooth as silk. Much smoother than the 10Xs I have, and everytime I see that spinning color-wheel in 10X it's like looking at the enemy. Give me my counting fingers back! Anyway, I am here because I set it up again and needed to make an appearance on this Introduction site. So, there it is. I am so glad for this forum, and glad to know that there are others who feel the same as I about the classical Macs. Thank you.
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Post by: somemusic on January 06, 2016, 08:03:25 AM
Hi everyone glad to be onboard, rescued a couple of G4 powerbooks that my stepdad was going to bin, going to take the plunge and put 0s9 on them to  supplement my studio
Running a 2011 MBP still on mountain lion with Maschine as my main noise maker

excited to see what is possible!

check out my soundcloud here :
https://soundcloud.com/somemusic-productions
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Post by: Milko on January 06, 2016, 03:10:36 PM
Hi. I'm new to the forum but I might as well post something. The first computer I ever remember using was my mum's Power Macintosh 6500 she bought in 1997. Ever since then I've been into macs, I mainly used PCs up until 2014 when I started using macs, my main computer then was a Power Mac G4 Digital Audio 466MHz with 768MB of RAM. I used 10.4.11 Tiger for about a year. I much prefer Mac OS 9 but as I have no access to a wired network where I am in the house, I have no way of connecting an OS 9 machine to the internet. I've tried sharing internet with various PC's and even getting an AirPort basestation to share the signal but none of it works.
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Post by: mossy_11 on January 11, 2016, 08:06:01 PM
Hello!

I was very excited to discover this site a few months ago. I'm a lifelong Mac user — started with a Mac Plus when I was a wee lad then got a new Mac every 4-5 years since (though sadly I don't have any of those old ones except an eMac and a G4 tower that my dad bought second-hand for his office) — and while these days I'm very much tethered to the OS X Intel for the bulk of my daily computing world I still prefer the look and feel of classic Mac OS.

In the past year I've got my hands on a Lombard PowerBook G3, a late-model iBook G3, and a Performa 580CD, all of which I'm trying to restore with new batteries, upgraded RAM, and whatever other improvements I can muster. Also getting my dad to bring our old eMac and Power Mac G4 to my house soon so I can set those up. I'm hoping to switch to OS 9 for production of my podcast.
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Post by: mrhappy on January 12, 2016, 01:44:18 AM
Welcome 2016 new guys!😁  You've inspired me to drag my old Mac Plus out of storage... Hopefully soon I'll get some time to crack it open and see what kind of shape it's in!
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Post by: Mat on January 12, 2016, 04:16:11 AM
I much prefer Mac OS 9 but as I have no access to a wired network where I am in the house, I have no way of connecting an OS 9 machine to the internet.
Welcome Milko!
Do you know that it is quite easy these days to use an external Accespoint? They are cheap, extremely small, and offer W-Lan (all standards) for every Ethernet connection. Additionally seveal routers still have WEP encryption for the original Airport cards, and it "just" has to be activated in the routers configs.
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Post by: MacOS Plus on January 12, 2016, 09:03:39 AM
Hi there,

  In an attempt to 're-invigorate' my Classic Mac hobby and my recording studio I'm getting involved in the discussion here.  My first Mac experiences were in sound studio work more than 20 years ago, beginning with Protools Mix hardware, then later on Sonic Solutions professional DAW systems spanning 68k nubus through 604e PPC PCI.  Ironically, even though I got into the Mac game much later than some, the first Mac I actually owned myself (second-hand) was a Classic.  Eventually I worked up from there to amass a very large and diverse collection up through to an Xserve G4 Rev 1.  My passion is in hardware upgrades and mods to make the most out of each of these aging systems.  Right now I am trying to build DAW systems with Protools TDM PCI and Nubus as well as MOTU PCI and working to integrate them within my established network of Sonic Solutions systems.

  I'm looking forward to joining the conversation here and I think I have lots of information to contribute as much as I have to gain.  What really sparked my interest this year was the development of booting OS9 on some of the unsupported hardware.  This finally made use of a 'derelict' MDD that had been shoved away in a corner because it now boots OS9!  I am really excited that this project continues to move forward and I expect we'll see big things this year.  I'll be looking for some guidance in the Protools department at some point, but hopefully I can be of help to the community on other fronts as well.

Regards,
  MacOS Plus
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Post by: mrhappy on January 12, 2016, 08:04:03 PM
Welcome aboard MacOS Plus! There's a number of us here with ProTools Mix systems! ;D
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Post by: Ruben Huizenga on January 13, 2016, 11:09:09 AM
Hey all!

Ruben from Toronto here.
Have had a project studio for quite some time, and have been using PT TDM 5.1.3 on os9 right up till
a few years ago when my friend told me stop being such a curmudgeon.
(complete with good ol' 888 24's.)

Have been using PT 8 HD since then, but with the exception of the waves vocal tuner, and PT's recent "warp" function,
my productivity hasn't changed.

I know people love the delay compensation of newer PT, but outside of phase critical tracks (like drum mics,)
I haven't really had problems.

IMO, PT 5.1.3 reached a threshold of usability (mostly with Beat Detective,) and has only incrementally gotten better since. (Speed-users will no doubt argue..)

Anyway, think I'm gonna fire up ol' "Nessy" again!
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Post by: mrhappy on January 13, 2016, 10:29:09 PM
Hey Ruben... A bunch of us around here use PT 5.1.3 so by all means... fire up 'Nessy'!! ;D
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Post by: randomdiego on January 14, 2016, 04:06:48 PM
Hi there!

I'm Diego, newer on macintosh but incredible was my first computer. Now I'm using a 400mhz ruby iMac g3 with OS 9.2.2 -downloaded from here-...thanks for keep this OS running!
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Post by: Roman & Vika on January 14, 2016, 07:26:06 PM
My name is Vika. I registered on the site a couple of days ago but got no confirmation reply. I was however able to sign in so I'm just making sure I've done everything properly.  :) Although Mac OS9 is old it is very new to me. I'm excited about finding out what it can do.  :)
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Post by: GaryN on January 14, 2016, 10:16:00 PM
Welcome Diego and Vika! It's a pleasure to see new members coming every day!
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Post by: Roman & Vika on January 15, 2016, 02:40:34 AM
Thank you Gary!  :)
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Post by: mrhappy on January 15, 2016, 05:19:58 AM
It's a pleasure to see new members coming every day!

Yes it is! Welcome new peeps!! ;D
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Post by: Damian9303 on January 20, 2016, 04:32:30 PM
I feel that Mac OS 9 Lives! Forums is a pretty good forum page where everyone who likes Mac OS 9 and thinks it should be used as a secondary comes here to get all the downloads to use Mac OS 9 but kinda Normal Means which is fantastic to anyone who wants to just say that they own a Mac and that they use it too. Great site! 10/10!
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Post by: ranjuro on January 21, 2016, 09:26:55 AM
Hello there everybody.  I'm a lifelong musician, writer, maker, and technology hacker.  I pay my bills writing software, which is boring, so enough about that.  I've been using Macs to further my musical goals since some time in the early 90's when I used the Macs and laserprinters at Kinkos to make J-cards for my bands tapes. 

I have a philosophy and it is this:  Newer gear doesn't render older gear obsolete as long as the older gear can still do the job.  Sometimes, in fact, older gear is better suited to the job than the newer, faster, lighter, whatever.  So, my studio is a mish mash of stuff, a 500mhz iMac G3 sits next to a 3ghz quad-core home-build Windows PC, a Core2 Duo MacMini and a couple modern MacBooks.  I also keep an old iPad 2, iPhone 4, and iPhone 5 around as DSP/effects processors, tuners, lyrics displays, portable mics (the iPhone 4 with a clipped on Tascam 30-pin XY condenser stereo mic is a slick little setup)... you name it.  If it boots and chimes and still runs happy, it has a place in my studio somewhere or another. 

My wife and I have a house and some land a little ways out of town with a few dogs, and a workshop and a barn that I'm converting into a recording studio.  I'm active in the Twin Cities music scene, playing in various bands, recording solo stuff, gigging, recording with various people, the usual stuff.  I hike and I need to lose a few pounds and I have a fishing boat and a kayak and too many hobbies.  I'm here at MacOS9Lives because I've been using Mac stuff long enough to have seen it debut, have it's heyday, and fade into obsolescence and now this is how I can keep it humming in my studio.  That little iMac G3 still runs Reason like a champ.  If I can keep all my old stuff going, that's more money to mod microphones, buy guitars I don't need, build rooms in my barn, and basically keep having fun making music.
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Post by: Jakl on January 21, 2016, 02:37:12 PM
That little iMac G3 still runs Reason like a champ.

I remember the Reason 2.5 and Cubase VST v4 on these - they were pretty stable machines and got through alot.

Welcome aboard! :)
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Post by: Bondi on January 21, 2016, 05:08:04 PM
Hello all and thanks for letting me join the group!  I was amazed when I found this site a few years back and saw it all about OS 9 **and** music production.  Those are two of my favorite things about computers.  Music is why I'm still on an "old" G4 almost everyday...well, that and the fact that I just like it.  It was my main computer and OS until probably 2 years ago.

What I mostly do with my Mac is write songs in MIDI and then occasionally record with the result as backing tracks.  I started with Harmony Assistant and Sound Sculptor II, I believe, back in the AOL days.  Soon afterwards, I found the program EasyBeat which has been the thing for me because of the way it can handle tablature and drums.  My setup is pretty simple compared to using the full-on DAW applications mentioned here, but it's the very best thing I have ever found for capturing and fleshing-out songs as you make them up.  It works best with OS9 ...and I think I do too. 

Anyway, this seems like a community with a lot of cool folks.  I'm looking forward to learning more from you all and hopefully contributing here too.

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Post by: mrhappy on January 22, 2016, 06:55:16 AM
keep having fun making music.

Keep on keeping' on ranjuro! ;D


this seems like a community with a lot of cool folks.

Most of us here think so but we're a little bias! Haha! ;D

Welcome aboard kids!! ;D ;D
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Post by: dasstraf on January 24, 2016, 04:05:54 AM
Hello fellow vintage mac savers, my name is alain and i am from belgium. I have a couple of vintage mac's that i tried to put back in their original state but always had troubles to put classic back on there. The main reason i came here is because i found a powerbook 180c but the hard drive is broken. I have the images to restore the os but i can't seem to find a hard drive for it (not for a reasonable price anyway), and belgium doesn't seem to have a vintage mac scene. So i was glad to find this site. Thanks for this site and keep up the good work.
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Post by: Mat on January 24, 2016, 04:20:46 AM
Welcome dasstraf. Just to be crystal clear from the beginning, we are not really "vintage". ;) We are using our PPC Macs up to 2GHz day to day mainly with Mac OS 9.2.2
Your Powerbook is a 33MHz 68k one and runs as maximum OS Mac OS 7.5.5. That is vintage. I am sure we will nevertheless try to help you with your vintage 68k Mac. If there is once a question we may not be able to answer, you may have a look at https://68kmla.org/ where the very experianced 68k-crowd is  hanging around.
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Post by: dasstraf on January 24, 2016, 04:33:53 AM
Hi Mat, thank's for the warm welcome. And thank's for the link for the vintage mac's. I own a couple of g3,g4 and g5 also, so i think i can learn a few things here as well. Most things i learned with trial and error by myself, so again thanks for this site.
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Post by: toples50 on January 25, 2016, 11:30:56 AM
Hello guys.
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Post by: willnubu on January 29, 2016, 02:56:01 AM
My name is Will & I make music on my computer. I started on Windows XP with Magix Hip Hop Music Maker, then went to Magix Music Maker 2003 deluxe before jumping ship to fl studio 5. In 2006, I went to Mac because I got tired of viruses from internet Explorer. I bought Logic Express 7, read up on the software & realize it had a long history. So I started buying old versions of Logic which led me to buying old Mac computers. In messing around with these computers, I wanted to set them up like my newer Mac, but with older software which led me to sites such as Macos9lives.
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Post by: GaryN on January 29, 2016, 01:33:13 PM
Who was it that said "Forward…into the past!"
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Post by: urribarbar on January 31, 2016, 10:17:19 AM
Hi,
sorry , but where is Forum Download Area ?
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Post by: GaryN on January 31, 2016, 04:33:34 PM
Read this:

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2848.msg17926#msg17926
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Post by: neurepublik on January 31, 2016, 07:07:35 PM
Groovy site!
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Post by: mrhappy on February 01, 2016, 06:53:26 AM
Groovy site!

Far Out!! ;D
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Post by: bracyp on February 01, 2016, 12:40:43 PM
Hello to all the Mac fans out there.  I'm new here, but I feel like this is a great community.  I've been with Apple products from the almost the earliest days.  My first experience was with the Apple ][, but I really cut my teeth on the Apple //e and still have my original one from 1988.  I actually used it in 8th grade and it was later traded to one of the local high schools for an attempt at a repair by the electronics class.  No success there so it sat there for a year without any luck until I discovered it when I joined the electronics class.  Simple power supply capacitor problem repaired by me and it was working again.  I was contacted years later (about 4 years ago) by the old electronics teacher saying they were getting rid of some things in storage and I could have a pick of it if I'd like.  Lo and Behold there it was in all it's glory still working. So now I have it at home bringing back the good ole days and showing my kids what life was like on computers back then.

But in the meantime, I had moved completely away from the Apple world except for my nostalgia.  But back when the first iPhone was introduced where I worked at AT&T, it got me thinking that I wanted to get back into it, so I started with the latest and greatest at the time and worked my way backwards to the older PowerPC platform.  I'm loving this stuff and wish that I had been with it in it's earliest days.

Well that's my Apple history.  But I'm also a huge network guy, mostly Cisco.  But love all computer platforms and OS's.  Intel, PowerPC, ARM, etc.; DOS, Windows, Linux, Mac.  Outside of computers I like Amateur Radio, Camping, Japanese culture (I speak fluent Japanese and lived there for two years.) and Science (Astronomy, Physics, etc.)

Nice to be here.

Bracy
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Post by: Jakl on February 01, 2016, 12:47:24 PM
Welcome Bracy - can feel the computer love in your story. :-)
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Post by: Mako on February 01, 2016, 03:51:11 PM
Well, I bought my iMac G3/400 DV (Summer 2000 - I/R) off a computer tech that I worked with, for a Print Design and Illustration degree that I was persuing in 2001. I stopped using it due to moving (like a gypsy) and acquiring a Toshiba laptop (which I still have) in 2006. That aside, I could never part from it. It just sat there with a cover over the vent/handle in many storage piles until this past Christmas. My father in law bought me a Teenage Engineering PO-16. Um, I almost cried. My brain has been craving for a new challenge, a new way to exercise my creativity. It took me a couple of weeks to figure out and within those weeks I started to study music theory, added the 12 and 14 to the mix, and composing songs on paper. I hooked up my iMac 4 days ago and was blown away at how fast it started up. I have Photoshop and Illustrator running 9.2. I was looking at old software for it and came across this website. I was shocked a little but completely understood why there is a following on this OS because it is amazing. For being as underpowered as my iMac is this thing of beauty started faster than any mobile, computer, tablet device I have with some major software on it. The simplicity, sound (which varies depending on where you click on the screen, if wearing headphones, can be louder in one ear), and the way it controls just makes sense to me. I bought 2 512 sticks of ram that shipped today and I am currently looking for a  good DAW to collaborate my sketches saved on the POs. All suggestions are welcome, and I can also answer questions about Photoshop and Illustrator, hell even the POs too.  -afro-
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Post by: GaryN on February 01, 2016, 07:23:05 PM
Ahhh… another convert feelin' the love…

Welcome! Just take some time and read through the DAW section. there are complete, ready to go downloads. You can start simple and move up as fast as you like. Digital recording is as complex an endeavor as you make it, so your desire for a new challenge is ready and waiting. Have fun!
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Post by: Mako on February 02, 2016, 06:21:33 AM
Thanks! Will do.
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Post by: Fizzgig on February 02, 2016, 07:33:41 PM
Hello!

I found this site after an internet friend sent me two hand-me-down Mac laptops for cost of shipping because she wasn't a Mac person and my Macbook had just been diagnosed with an ailing logic board. One of the two was a roughly-2008 Macbook Pro on which I am typing this post now. The other—and now we come to it—was a Powerbook G4 (model "5,1"—whatever that means—and circa 2004 I believe) which came to me running Tiger.

Naturally, the first thing I did with the G4 was try to get Classic mode up and running. My family's been using Macs since I was about four (we started with a Performa 630CD—which I still own and which still works!), and back in my teens I got really good at poking around with the classic Mac OS until it was just as I wanted it. So I stuck my old Mac OS 9 install CD in, as the machine had arrived sans Classic mode, and tried to install.

Well, it turns out that your average installer for the classic Mac OS… will only run under the classic Mac OS. It also turns out that you can't launch Classic from a system folder on a read-only CD… or copy that folder to a hard drive and launch it that way, apparently.

eBay was not forthcoming with model-specific disks (and my friend never had disks to begin with), so I started doing extensive research and ended up here, specifically at the "Mac OS 9.2.2 Install for Unsupported G4s" page. I thought, well, that IS pretty much what I have, so I downloaded the image, burned a CD…

…and lo and behold, booted the G4 into Mac OS 9. Wiped the drive, installed the OS, rebooted a few times to get the danged disk to eject :), and I am now very happily running Mac OS 9! I'm just going to keep it that way and not bother installing Tiger again. The only snags I've run into are 1) the system complains about "missing software" if I try to put it in sleep mode (I did some more research and I guess this is a side effect of not having machine-specific disks), 2) I get an error on every startup about a USB device with missing software even when nothing's connected, and 3) a couple of hardware snags that cropped up even under OS X—there doesn't seem to be an Airport card, so no internet, and sound is weirdly intermittent even with headphones. I might try and fix #3 at some point, but hey, almost-free machine and it's still highly awesome.

In the meantime, I am happily installing all my favorite 1990s-era software and reacquainting myself with Hypercard. I made an account so I could say thank you and maybe chat with other old-Mac nerds. :)
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Post by: Mako on February 03, 2016, 02:38:23 AM
I've used everymac.com to find out the specific tech history of my iMac. I'm sure they will have some answers for the "not sure what that means" question. The forum staff here are awesome and I've been reading alot of threads that include supernova77, sometimes I have no idea what they are talking about, but he can be entertaining :) Welcome and nice score on the free macs!!
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Post by: Jakl on February 03, 2016, 03:57:11 AM
Welcome aboard peoples - I hope you find as much as you need for your OS9 machines here.
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Post by: OS923 on February 03, 2016, 09:00:12 AM
Hi from Belgium. I started long ago with a ZX Spectrum with Basic and assembler. Then I became bachelor of informatics, specialized in systems analysis. I learned Pascal, Cobol, Prolog, DBase and C. I have written Cobol programs on the VAX Digital. In 1991 I moved to my first Macintosh with Modula-2, Scheme and Oberon. Then I moved to Windows 3.1 with Visual C++ when I worked for the ministry of housing. In 1998 I moved back to Macintosh with CodeWarrior C++ and Java. Since then I'm doing quite the same stuff. I do most of my work on a G4 MDD 1.25 GHz dual. What I can't do on this computer, I do that on a P4 dual 3 GHz with XP, W98 and Puppy Linux. I have also a beige Server G3/300 for testing new programs. I have also a G4 MDD 1.42 GHz dual FW400 that boots in OS 9.2.2, but it can also start up in OSX 10.4. I use OSX for watching DVD's. I have also an oldtimer P4 1.6 GHz so I can place my printer in another room. I use a Thinkpad T500 for wireless internet in the library (can go up to 300 mbps). I have 4 Palm handhelds (M130 that I use as a torch, E2, T5 and TX). I write programs for OS 9, OSX, Windows, Linux and Palm. I have also a few oldtimer handhelds (Sharp PC-1401 and Atari Portfolio) that I keep for their museum value.
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Post by: MacBubba on February 04, 2016, 08:39:40 AM
Greetings ... accidentally found this site when trying to wrk out how to run Pagemaker 7 on a Sheepshaver incarnation of OS 9.  Hoping to learn about and share what I can about some excellent legacy software for OS 9.  Name is Dave, and from Perth, Western Australia.
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Post by: DPessell on February 04, 2016, 01:54:55 PM
Hi. It's so great to be part of this group. I always thought I was strange for never wanting to get rid of my Mac G4/System 9/Cubase VST24. I may still be strange for other reasons, but now I know it has nothing to do with my enthusiasm for my original (and still excellent) DAW setup.

Can it get better? Yes, in fact I've already used this forum to inform my latest audio interface upgrade. Tonight, I'll start to set up the M-Audio Firewire 410 and see what develops. I am now and ever positive.

Thank you to everyone who had a hand in getting this great thing started and are sustaining it. I'm not really much of a chatter, and hesitate to seek out help. But I hope to come out of my shell a bit and contribute to this enterprise.

Thanks again.
Your obedient servant,
Dan Pessell
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Post by: GaryN on February 04, 2016, 02:49:18 PM
Tonight, I'll start to set up the M-Audio Firewire 410 and see what develops.

Please report back on your success or failure with the FW 410. We're currently in the middle of trying to troubleshoot a member's system with one of those right now. We'd be especially interested in the ASIO driver(s) that work or don't work for you.
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Post by: DPessell on February 04, 2016, 07:13:30 PM
My initial tryout of the 410 hasn't yielded anything good yet--I was only trying to listen to an existing Cubase VST24 file, testing my monitors. Slow, choppy & clipped. But, neither have I fully read the manual. Full disclosure--my previous interface was an edirol 2 in/2 out USB thingy. This is my first interface with any power or potential. I have a lot to read. I'll try to come up with a report by evening, 2/7/16. And if it works, I'll get the drivers uploaded for the other member who is struggling.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: GaryN on February 04, 2016, 10:45:42 PM
Thanks Dan!
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Post by: felixding on February 05, 2016, 12:16:37 AM
Hi there,

I'm very glad I could find Mac OS 9 die hards here. Nobody I personally know use classic Mac OS anymore, and no one even appreciates the simplicity of it, until I found this website. Cheers!

About me. I'm a computer geek living in Shanghai, China.

I love alternative rock like Pink Floyd & Radiohead, but in fact I listen to almost every genre of music (7000+ songs in iTunes). 

Reading is another thing I do a lot. Currently I'm reading The Man in the Hight Castle.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on February 05, 2016, 06:43:35 AM
love alternative rock like Pink Floyd & Radiohead, but in fact I listen to almost every genre of music (7000+ songs in iTunes). 

Reading is another thing I do a lot. Currently I'm reading The Man in the Hight Castle.

There is SOOO much great music out there today (even though many people complain otherwise)... It only takes a slight deviation from 'commercial' outlets to find something interesting!

I don't do NEARLY enough (pleasure) reading though!

Welcome btw! ;D ;D
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Post by: mika67 on February 07, 2016, 03:02:17 AM
Hello!

i've been lurking around since 2014 and it's time to say thank you.
So thank you all for this great forum. I enjoy every visit.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: cmstuber on February 07, 2016, 08:01:12 PM
Hello all,

I thought I'd introduce myself and share how I got here. 

I'm from the Oregon Trail generation, so I remember apple IIe's fondly from my childhood.  The first computers we had in the house were a compaq 286, which was our 'non-daw' computer and a compaq 386 which my dad used as his 'daw' comp.  It ran dos then win3.1 and the first versions of band in a box and cakewalk. 
I remember opening up a new computer a couple years later after we finished building the recording studio.  It was a pentium and ran win3.1.  Along with the Tascam DA-88, it felt quite state of the art at the time.  my dad recorded a few records for family and friends.  And with internet starting to become popular, he did a few recording projects with people online.
I got the gateway2000 handmedown.  Win95/98 was popular at the time and with two older computers roaming around I decided to try out this new-ish linux stuff.  I had RedHat 3.  The happy hacker digest brought me into a world of terminals and I learned basic coding to make Xwindows a feasible alternative to win3.1 or win95 that was all over schools. 
In high school I got the PII while the studio got a PIII.  Linux had come quite a ways so I ran SuSE linux with KDE3 by the time I graduated.  At school though, the iMacG3 had started to take over.  I used them at school mostly for video editing.
When I went to college I made the full switch to Mac because of OSX and Darwin.  I got a brand spanking new 12"PBG4.  I fell in love. 
I have since started to collect and love the PPC macs. A few of my collection:
B&W G3
iMac G3
iBook Clamshell FW SE
iBook Snow G3
iBook G4
PB G4 12"
iMac G4
Graphite G4
MDD
iMac G5
2x2.0 G5
MBP CD
MB Aluminum

My interest in OS9 actually started just recently.  About a year ago I got my clamshell and booted it into os9.  Since then, I've got all my ppc macs to either boot natively or use classic.  I enjoy going back and forth. 
The recording studio at my parent's home has ceased to exist due to their other priorities, but with retirement coming, I have a feeling my dad will likely get back into it.  I'm excited because it's quite possible I could help him with a PT TDM set up.  I'm interested in going that direction as well. 
Recently I just accepted a position as an ACMT and also have a couple degrees in music.  This place is a pretty cool place to hang out.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on February 08, 2016, 04:45:00 AM
Welcome Mika67 and cmstuber... that's quite a collection you have there cmstuber! ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: revel8or on February 11, 2016, 01:47:02 PM
Hello, all!

Thank you, admins, for running this site.   It's great to see that there are people who are dedicated to an incredible system, even by today's standards. 

I have to admit that I was an IBM boy growing up.  My mom and a lot of the parents of some of my friends were IBMers.  I was, essentially, teethed on a trash 80, then moved in to the IBM PC, then the XT and AT.  My first computer was a PCjr.  My next was their first "portable" which was affectionately called the "luggable" by many.

I stayed with PCs throughout my life, even when I started writing music.  My wife still gives me a hard time about *not* going with Macs sooner, as she used them in her job in '99 and 00 doing web design - and fell in love with how easy their workflow seemed to be, as well as their speed compared to PCs.  I had had so much money invested in PCs, constantly trying to chase minimum latency for computer synths, that she finally gave up and drew up a bill.  If I would have just bought a Mac, I would have saved a couple of thousand...

So, here we are, today.  I have a pretty speedy PC with some awesome cards that runs as perfectly as can be.  BUT, the sound card manufacturer has never perfected sysex communication.  When I try to use my "expensive" cards to do dumps, it tears up the data, either sending or receiving. 

I had a Unitor MK II sitting in a box that was so cheap that I couldn't say no.  When I hooked it up to the PC in an effort to find a new midi pathway, the drivers for it were so old that it wouldn't communicate. :( It was a sad day. 

About a month or two later, my brother-in-law called and asked me if I wanted an old Mac.  Skeptically, it was taken in...my hope was that it had an early o/s that would work with my Unitor...and it has the first version of o/s X, but still has "classic" mode from which to work.  The Unitor software installed perfectly, and now I *almost* have an editor/librarian.  At least I can get Unitor to connect to other equipment.

Until recently, I haven't searched for any software for my G4, but now that I've had it running, I'm dying to find stuff that will work with it - and I think I might get a 24/96 for audio in/out. 

So, again, thanks a lot for your site.  I've been looking all over for some software that would run.

JTR
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: GaryN on February 11, 2016, 02:16:03 PM
Well, welcome Revel8tor! You should know (if you don't already) that your story is pretty common. The world is full of people who have eventually come to the realization that the entire Mac paradigm is far better suited to the creative arts than anything ever designed to run under Windoze.

You have a world of discovery ahead of you as you explore this other side of the fence. Yes, the grass is actually greener over here.
Know that there will be a ying and a yang though… the joy of finding amazing capabilities in the platform balanced against the constant kiciking yourself for not going down this road sooner!

In the end, you can be assured that your experience going forward, will be a net positive one. Very positive indeed.

Feel free to ask about anything that vexes you. We're all here for each other. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on February 12, 2016, 06:43:34 AM
it has the first version of o/s X, but still has "classic" mode from which to work

JTR... you're probably gonna want to put a 'proper' OS9 on there as 'Classic' is going to be very limiting. ;D ;D
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Post by: foomanshoo31 on February 14, 2016, 03:26:22 AM
Hello all in the Mac world!!!!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on February 14, 2016, 08:00:04 AM
Howdy! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: revel8or on February 14, 2016, 11:24:44 AM
Thanks a lot for the welcome, all.  I responded with a bunch of questions (and then updated this post) as they are hardware relevant, so they just got moved to the hardware discussion area :) 

Although I did get a 2496 off of ebay... :)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: OldMacDon on February 15, 2016, 12:58:23 AM



Hi everyone.

Yup, my real name is Don, I'm working on getting old as slow as i can, and I've used Old Macs proudly for a whole lot of years... carefully staying on the trailing edge of technology as much as possible.

Bought my first Apple IIc way back in the 1980s, migrated through a host of machines... a 2SI, a Q950 (actually ended up with 256 megs of Ram and the whole scsi bus packed out), through a 7200, a beige G3, a handful of school auction machines, a G5, and finally, have stepped back into the "big time" by buying a *real* Mac... a G4 MDD tower just a week ago.  So, life is starting to look up, and I see YDL OS9, and OSX on two machines side by side... with the G5 and the other newer thingemajig running Mavericks sitting out in the other room away from the "inner sanctum".  So... all is well and I'm on the ebay hunt for some authentic install disks.

Just missed a stupendous auction a few days ago... hesitated too long & somebody bought a batch of OS9 to X.5.8 install disks all in one swell foop... doggonitanywayzrassafrassarattastrassum.

Anyhow, greetings to y'all and keep on Maccin.

See ya on the forums.

Don
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Post by: keyno on February 15, 2016, 05:26:04 AM
Hello Apple fans!

I bought a PowerBook G3 with 400 MHz on eBay for about 45$. The vendor said it is working perfectly, just the battery died and I need to buy a new power supply. The G3 and the power supply will arrive I guess tomorrow.

I want to make music with it. Want to test, what's still working on this old machine and just want to have fun with Mac OS 9.

I am a 20 year old college student from Germany and I'm studying Computer Science in Karlsruhe (a tiny town).

I love computers since I was a small kid. I don't need all this new stuff, I'm just happy with machines that I can play with

Hopefully I will find lots of interesting stuff on this geeky forum.

THANK YOU FOR THIS EPIC WEBSITE!
Much better then all this Facebook / Twitter / whatever stuff!!!

Geeky greetings,
keyno
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Post by: Mat on February 15, 2016, 08:54:06 AM
Welcome Don, I hope I understood you correctly, and the MDD is dedicated to YDL and Mac OS 9, or do you really run 10.5.8 there as well?


Servus Keyno!
Was genau studierst Du denn? Kann man Dich einspannen für ein paar Neukompilierungen und so Zeugs? ;)

Well, the PB 400 is a nice machine! It has USB already onboard, and if you use the software of its time it will bring you a lot of fun! For example I started to record and edit stuff with SoundEdit 16 at a 60 MHz 6100 (beside multitrack editing it was possible to load and play the movie that I dubbed).
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Post by: DwayneDA on February 15, 2016, 10:23:15 AM
Hello guys,

well, i must confess that i am a PC guy. But i had the chance to get my hands on a Powerbook G4 for a ridiculous price, i couldn't resist.

About me... slowly becoming an old man, but using computers for my music since the great times of an Atari ST.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: carguyty on February 15, 2016, 11:35:28 AM
Hello!

My name is Ty. My new wife has just told me that I am allowed to start a collection of classic Macs as long as my first one is a Cube.

I'm currently in data science for the US Navy, and going to school for Computer Science. I've always loved the simplicity and "honesty" of the Mac OS. Since the days when I can vaguely remember that Sim Ant was only available on the LC in my middle school computer lab, I've loved the entire experience. The POST chime, the simple icons, the clearly defined menu bar, and the beloved Apple menu. The fam preferred the cheaper "IBM compatibles" of the era and after 8th grade I started to loose touch with the community. Once a quarter, maybe, I would insist that my dad buy a Macworld for me to drool over. I held on to the discs of shareware for years without even a friend to share them.

After I got out of school and started making real money, I promised myself I was going to get my first Mac. It was an iBook 600Mhz. It was glorious. It booted 9.2.2 and 10.1. I had lost all my discs but I went out to get a copy of Macworld right away. No internet meant that I had no ability to register the budding internet capable apps of the day. OSX was still in its infancy and almost unusable from what I remembered. Flash forward a couple years and the dreaded GPU desoldering occurred for the last time. A decade slipped by and I started a company with my wife dealing antiques. I started to find vintage Mac programming books, manuals, accessories...the need for a happy Mac face staring at me stirred again.

Now that I start to piece together the workings of computer programming, I find that I love the PowerPC more than any other existing, experimental, or defunct architecture. It is perfect and needs to be displayed as competent. I think OS9 is the very thing to help show the longevity of well written code and carefully planned hardware. In my efforts to build a small museum of PPC computers, I plan to do all I can to assist the community in writing patches, extensions, and even (*gasp*) drivers. I plan to turn this all into a master's thesis on how lazy and sloppy software engineers have gotten over the years thanks to high horsepower machines. Even while writing this from OSX 10.11 running on an i7, I pine for the time when the PPC at 1GHz was the champion of the heavy lifting arena and OS9 was the only suitable OS for the wild beast.

I look forward to working with this community in all number of projects. Thank you all for what you have brought. 
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: inspector77 on February 15, 2016, 02:12:21 PM
Hello from Spain, Still recording with an old Apple Quadra 610 and
a yamaha cbx-d5 scsi audio interface.
I have another apple computers:
-Apple IIsi
-Performa 6400
-Powermac 7200
-G4 quicksilver

Thanks a lot for this great forum
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Post by: ppnm on February 16, 2016, 03:24:27 AM
Happy to meet this forum!: I knew about it recently, looking to have my QuickSilver Bi800 work again using OS<X.
I'm a french -and old- Mac User: perhaps you guessed I need to refresh my English language...
Location: le Gers, Midi-Pyrénées, south-west of France.
I owned several Macs; first one, a SE30 -intensively used until 2000, but recently died (video gun); to day, my 4400, QS, MDD bi-1,25, MBpro 13" work fine, a QuickTake 150 too....
Now, I mainly use 2 MacMini, just for personal needs.
See You soon...
PPNM



Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: deanolium on February 16, 2016, 07:58:24 AM
Hi everyone,

Cutting it quick as I should be working. Industrial producer here whose gone back to OS9 because Studio Vision Pro is just an awesome app which still is useful when screwing with hardware. So much so, I've just upgraded my mac rig from a powerbook to a full G3 setup. And it's amazingly fun!

Anyway, good to see this community and others interested in this OS and machine.
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Post by: GaryN on February 16, 2016, 04:37:35 PM
Isn't it amazing when you go back to SVP and realize how many of today's "new" features were already there?
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Post by: Mat on February 16, 2016, 04:49:27 PM
Isn't it amazing when you go back to SVP and realize how many of today's "new" features were already there?
That reminds me of people telling me in 2004 why X is sooo cool. They showed me that it is possible to change the Background Image, and that you can stream mp3 radio and that the new Illustrator can convert pixel to vector graphics. I showed them "Decór" for Mac OS 7 and "Adobe Streamline" and asked what they are talking about exactly, … what leaded to some frustration about their new 5000 bucks machine. ;)
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Post by: revel8or on February 16, 2016, 06:01:15 PM
Mat, I spent about 2200 us in two sound cards for the PC back in 2000 so I could get 6ms latency.  My wife told me, then, that I should have just bought a Mac G4.  I just got the G4, and I still have the sound cards in a PC that gets updated every few years...I think that I would have been better off, fiscally, with the G4.  I love it.  To little bitty pieces.  I do.
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Post by: saxfun on February 20, 2016, 02:36:30 AM
hi there!
I'm a musician (alto sax, bass clarinet, djembé, dundun, cajón), teaching since 20 years. for my local university i'm repairing a lot of powerbooks, MacBooks and all this stuff. i'm working since 2004 with Mac and OS X, OS9 i did see only on my artists colleagues machines. so i'm really interested, since i have already 9.2.2 on my Sawtooth (2gb RAM, 1,4GhZ Sonnet CPU Upgrade etc.). OS X on my main machines and on this sawtooth is ROCKstable but -honestly- i get a lot of lockups on OS9, an experience i did not had in the past with OS X. so i' eagerly looking forward to work a lot more with OS9 to optimize it on my machine.

saxfun  ;)
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Post by: mrhappy on February 20, 2016, 09:10:47 AM
Well this is the place to get your OS 9 machine sorted out! I'm gonna have to google dundun to see what that is though!!😁😁
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Post by: Silver on February 23, 2016, 11:11:42 AM
Hello, I just found this great website by chance. I bought a used iBook calmshell with OS9 installed. I'm looking forward to making music with it.
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Post by: rickrob on February 23, 2016, 12:36:28 PM
Hello everyone,

I've been using Macs since the 80's, started out with an SE and System 6... I took a break for a while a few years back and got rid of all my Macs... But about a year ago I found an SE/30 on the side of the road, took it home and fixed it up. That got me back into vintage macs. Now I've got a small collection going of a G4 Cube, Mac Mini 1.42Ghz, SE/30, Color Classic/Mystic and a Pismo G3 Powerbook. And a Laserwriter 4/600.

Looking forward to reading all the info in the forums.
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Post by: mrhappy on February 23, 2016, 02:41:47 PM
Welcome Silver and rickrob!

started out with System 6.

That's where I got onboard too IIRC ;D
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Post by: GaryN on February 23, 2016, 06:01:55 PM
But about a year ago I found an SE/30 on the side of the road,

Damn. I need to my routes - I'm obviously taking the wrong roads!
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Post by: boring747 on February 23, 2016, 10:06:25 PM
Hi folks!

Some people can't help but feed stray cats when they encounter them. Me, I can't help but fix up old Macs when I encounter them. I joined this community because I'm trying to learn more about MIDI because I'm starting a Twin Peaks tribute band with my best friend. I'm kinda iffy on what the difference between a sequencer and a sampler is, so I have a lot to learn. I promise not to ask any really dumb questions for a while!

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Post by: eamoc on February 23, 2016, 10:07:43 PM
Howdy all

By way of introduction, I spent a lot of time and had a lot of fun in the late 90s with the various free Calarts programs for OS 9 (especially Soundhack), and whatever else I could find. As a college junior with a blueberry G3 iMac DV, I'd explore, in maddening intricacy, every second of sound at hand, ticking away the small hours while largely avoiding schoolwork.

Since then I've run OSX on various newish machines (loving every way to integrate the bash terminal with GUI programs) and various barebones Linux distros on old, old ones, but have fondly revisited OS9 more and more. It holds fond memories, has odd charms, and an interesting way of keeping me focused on making, making, making.

I had always wondered what sort of musical sorcery could be performed with the SuperCollider program -- which receives user input in the form of an object-oriented programming language -- and have since learned a good deal about programming, and so am emboldened to revisit it.

Now, having had a Quicksilver G4 and a nice MIDI keyboard controller randomly come into my life, the time is right. I spent under $30 on the Audiophile 2496, and am reading manuals. The MIDI lab at my school wasn't formed until after I'd graduated, so I've plenty to learn.

I'm going to have a good thorough look at the forum pages and get down to brass tacks. Such a cool site, I'm a little confused as to why I didn't assume something like this existed.
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Post by: mocheez on February 24, 2016, 12:43:06 AM
Hi there! I've been a hardcore Apple addict and fan of electronic music gear ever since I was a kid. It almost started with a Macintosh, back in 1984, but my father finally went for the Apple //e, much cheaper and much more expandable. Ever since, I was in love… (even though I was a bit pissed off he didn't buy the Mac)
I went through other computing experiences as life went by. My parents and I moved from Paris to Marseille, back in 1990. By then, I was into Amiga's (my dad had bought two A2000's to do computer graphics), on which I discovered the exciting world of computer music. I got away from Apple for a while, although I would often enjoy using the Mac IIfx at my dad's work. In 1991, I decided to get into computer music for real and got me some synthesizer and Atari 520ST with Cubase. This has been my setup for years. I later added a digital sampler and, later on, bought my first own Macintosh… at last! It was a Performa 5400 on which I would run Cubase VST. I later upgraded to a Powermac G3 B&W and got into collecting all the vintage Mac's I could afford, and especially the infamous Mac 128k my dad hadn't bought, back in 1984. After some time I had almost all things Apple had ever created. As I approached my forties, I got bit by some stupid adult bug called "reason". That led to the clearance of absolutely all my Apple computers collection. Fortunately for the buyer, that was before Steve Jobs passed away. Unfortunately for me, I now have to think twice before I buy a vintage Mac because prices skyrocketed.
Still, I managed to buy (again) a complete Apple //e, Apple //c and Mac SE (and two Mac Plus I have yet to get repaired) and kept my B&W G3 and PM G4 MDD (as well as the two Atari ST's)

That was for the background. Today, things are getting a little different. For years, I kept using Mac OS X Lion on my iMac because my trusty old Cubase Studio 4 was still running fine on it, and I could still boot in 32bit mode to use my Tascam controller (no drivers for Mountain Lion… Tascam, you're a b**ch!). But lately, my iMac's drive crashed real bad and I had to format. As I couldn't find a way to simply re-install Lion, I went Yosemite… But now I'm into trouble with Cubase, there's no upgrade plan from Steinberg for my version (they did the same thing to me when I first switched to OS X and G3)… and I can't use my Tascam controller anymore (except for midi and audio pass through…)
I feel stuck in that race for better, faster, stronger hardware and software, and I hate that.
I feel that most hardware has never been totally exploited to its full potential. People build bigger machines because they program fatter software. Where's the optimisation? Where is the time when your Mac would boot up in seconds, where Sound Designer and Photoshop were both 300K and would run on 1MB of ram?
Look at the computer and music industry today : more and more "entertainment" in the form of eye and ear candy but no more creation, no more originality, no more talent. And whilst people are getting crazy over flashy gear with touch screens, I'm trying to get back to basics. So my latest acquisitions were a Mac SE, MOTU and Apple serial midi interfaces and an Ensoniq EPS16+. (Actually, I ended up on this forum because I was looking for an early classic Mac version of Cubase, so I could try my brand new Apple Midi Interface on the Mac SE.)

Thanks for being there. Today I'm gonna try install Mac OS 9 back on my G4 ;-)
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Post by: lowfikoans on February 25, 2016, 01:42:26 PM
Hi Everyone

I'm still using a G3 Powerbook and a G4 Pro Tools TDM Mix system for audio work.  Very excited to have discovered this site!

I do electronic music and have tons of samples to share, along with various Pro Tools and audio related bits. 
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Post by: ThisIsAlanB on February 25, 2016, 07:02:56 PM
Hello! I've been very curious about older Macs, especially the iMac G3 and iBook G3 Clamshell, since I started getting into tech back in 08 (I'm a bit younger and my household was primarily Windows). I just recently picked up an iBook G3 Indigo Clamshell and ironically enough, it came with a copy of OS 9.2.2 from this site! I'm still shocked how easy it was to get a newer Microsoft USB mouse to work in OS 9.
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Post by: Archilog on February 27, 2016, 10:48:47 AM
Hello!

Well, I'm Archilog.

I own an Audiomedia III card I won after a big work on a Filemaker sound database on a G3 B&W. At that time, I personally owned a W98 PC (didn't have enough money to buy anything else), so I ran my Audiomedia III on this system. It was last millennium.

Last year I decided to transfer some old analog tapes and remembered my AM3. I bought a cheap (today  ;)) Tascam 112 MKII to read the tapes and a PowerMac G3 B&W (9.2.1 US system) since it's the most recent Apple system   -afro-  able to work correctly with this good old card. I am very impressed by this computer, in my humble opinion the best one in terms of conception - but I'm not a specialist.

The AM3 works perfectly.

I am searching for Pro Tools LE 5.1.1 (Avid community states it's the ultimate good version for my card (http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=21286)).

I hope I can find it and other hints here. I am a former sound engineer, but totally changed my professional life 15 years ago.

Thank you, MacOS9Live community, for being alive as well as my G3!  :)
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Post by: bobesch on February 28, 2016, 12:03:51 AM
Hi there, I'm Robert, living in the North of Germany close to the Baltic Sea.
Just started to find out more about the 'mysterious' MacOS
Until 2009 I've only using DOS/Windows, but I remember, that I always had a stop at a Mac-Sellers Window in the late 80's to have a look at that beautiful  Macintosh with Desktop and Icons while everyone of my mates at college were hassling around with DOS and Command-line.
Because of my profession I had to stay with windows, but in 2009 I've got my first MacBook.
Since I'm pleased to see, the working with both environments is nice and challenging.
After getting hands on my first PowerPC (iBookG4) with OS X Tiger I was first impressed about that >10y old hard- and software but even more, after I started to run some stuff (Office2001 and Photoshop) in Classic mode.
Now I sitting here with a Clamshell G3 trying to start with Classic right from the scratch and want to try to find some useful stuff to connect it to my existing environment of Win-OSX/intel/OSX-PPC. But mostly to catch up the missing history that passed by behind that window-pane in the 80's
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Post by: Mat on February 28, 2016, 06:03:24 AM
Welcome on board everybody!

I have to answer about two issues directly:

I feel stuck in that race for better, faster, stronger hardware and software, and I hate that. I feel that most hardware has never been totally exploited to its full potential. People build bigger machines because they program fatter software. Where's the optimisation?
It is making me very happy that others feel exactly like I do! Gladly I felt that way first when they tried to abandon Mac OS 9, and did not follow the industries plans anymore ;)

Now I sitting here with a Clamshell G3 trying to start with Classic right from the scratch

Robert, I hope you are not using Classic but a Native Mac OS 9! Classic – the emulation within X - is extremely bad compared to native OS!

About "integration" to your network, have a first look at "DAVE". Here is a nice article for example: https://happymacs.wordpress.com/2014/06/16/network-you-classic-mac-with-windows-part-1-using-dave/
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Post by: trevor12 on March 02, 2016, 10:20:17 AM
Good evening everyone, I have ibook g3 so maybe some apps will be useful for me. Thanks
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Post by: simondo3 on March 03, 2016, 10:57:19 AM
Greetings earthlings  :)
this is my first post
Great site!! I'm here for some OS 9 goodies and to share the OS 9 goodies I have mostly TDM plugins. I'm a producer and have had Macs since I bought a 9500 in 2000 to host a Pro Tools Mix system which is still in use but is now in a G4 mirror case
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Post by: Philgood on March 03, 2016, 12:54:24 PM
Hi everyone new around here.

Simondo, take a look at the TDM plugin section. We need some testers and to fill some gaps. There are many plugins which were not working for me so if you know some magic to make them work, let us know.  :)
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Post by: Heinz on March 06, 2016, 03:35:59 AM
Hi folks,

I'm new to this forum, so I thought it would be good to say hello.

My computing history started in the late eighties with an Atari 520 ST+ (which still works perfectly). When Atari faded away I did not move on to Apple (at this time) since I simply could not afford any Mac. So I spend some years of computing with custom built PCs and OS/2 on top. Okay, OS/2 was great but not the best bet as well, so I moved on to use Linux as my main OS. But late in 1997 I was infected by the retro computing virus when I bought one of the still existing Atari magazines (ST Computer).

I started to collect good old Atari computers and even a number of Atari clones - like the Milan and most recently the FireBee. My Atari infection also led to the first MacOS 9 system since there is a great Atari emulator for MacOS 9 called Magic Mac. So Magic Mac was the first killer application for my Umax Pulsar/Supermac which was later upgraded with a G3/500 card. The Next Mac was a PowerMac G3 which was upgraded with a Sonnet G4/500 card. Then finally a brand new MacMini G4 1.42 followed - which was the only new Mac I ever bought. My Mac Mini obviously was not a retro computing device but my day to day private use system. In this role three Intel iMacs followed, two of them are still in use.

So now you might ask you how does all of this lead to Heinz joining this forum? There are several reasons. On one hand I like nice/good hardware, so I was looking to buy some old Apple systems which I never could afford at the time they were new. On the other hand I like to use some good OS and software which is not connected to any cloud, does not collect all information available and so on. So what would be a better choice than some nice G3 or G4 iBook or PowerBook with MacOS 9? This combination is more powerful and modern than all my Atari systems, so I can do more daily work with it. And it's just fun :-)

When I started collecting information on what to buy and how to set stuff up I found this page and forum. And hell this is awesome!!!

Well, that's why I'm here. You already helped me to start into MacOS 9 and I plan to ask some stupid questions and hope you folks can help.

King regards,
Heinz
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Post by: IDidMyTimeOnOS9 on March 09, 2016, 01:48:04 PM
I am a new member to this forum which I have stumbled upon as I was looking to resurrect my old OS9 machine(s) recently.

Like most of the other members here I am old enough to remember "the good old days". Through making music I got into using a Mac and I still own my very first machine from 1997 - a Powermac 7300/166 which I upgraded with a G3/300 card some years later.

My name says it all - I have spent a lot of my life in front of a Mac and definitely many hours on pre OS X machines. I spent the best part of my twenties at various recording studios in London in front of a Mac - right at the time when Pro Tools came in and tape took a step back.

I did not get into OS X properly until late into "Jaguar". It did seem exciting when "Panther" and then "Tiger" came. But I think that after "Snow Leopard" OS X started going downhill. So over the years I have become disillusioned with Apple, seeing how the company has changed and abandoned its original core user base which was keeping them alive between 1996 and the first iPod.

I always knew I would need to be able to go back to the classic OS and programmes (before people referred to them as "apps"). What I didn't realise was how much fun it would be doing it - using OS 9 makes me feel like my Mac is my friend. Mac OS was a very different beast then and with the hindsight of over a decade I can see how much Apple has really lost along the way, transforming itself into the most valuable company in the world.

I use Mac OS X daily and earn my living with it. It's far more efficient for a lot of my daily tasks and I couldn't be without it. Having said that there is something about the feel of OS 9 that's definitely been lost. It makes the computer appear more human and it makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside - and that's why I am here, I suppose.
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Post by: mrhappy on March 10, 2016, 05:59:45 AM
it makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside - and that's why I am here, I suppose.

Glad you're all 'comfy' again!! ;D Welcome aboard!
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Post by: IDidMyTimeOnOS9 on March 10, 2016, 06:21:29 AM
Thanks very much, mrhappy!
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Post by: Alfasi on March 10, 2016, 05:41:27 PM
Hello :)
I'm Roy, from Israel (Dying to move outta here :P ).
I've found this site when I thought about getting myself a PPC machine.
I was hesitant at first, but this site showed me there is a community fighting to maintain OS8/9.
I'm 23. As a child we had a Powermac G3 at home and I remember myself actually teaching myself how to read both Hebrew and English, playing with my mom's Freehand and Photoshop making silly creations.
I've bought an iBook G3 (Blueberry Clamshell) and I'm waiting for some upgrades for it, a battery, an airport card and a 256mb RAM card.

I just wanted to introduce myself, I have to get back to work :)
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Post by: davisdelo on March 10, 2016, 06:26:36 PM
Hi y'all, my name is Davis and I'm glad to have another resource for keeping my old macs running.  I've had many macs but I currently am using a Dual 1Ghz/167Mhz MDD, Powerbook G4 1.5Ghz and a 24" 2009 iMac.  The MDD is definitely my favorite machine, I got it new way back in the day and it's been a serious workhorse.  I'm looking to get a OS 9 back on it and use it as a production machine again, and maybe try to get my Powerbook to run the unofficial OS 9 if it will take it!
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Post by: sempleyaroff on March 11, 2016, 02:27:42 AM
Hello everybody! This resource - just a dream come true !
My configuration - QS733, serial steelth port, opcode studio 4 , PT MIX ( 1 core 3 farm) in Magma 13slot chassis, adaptec 2940 mac edition for hardware samplers.
Very grateful to the creators of the forum and active users ! Unfortunately, my written English is far from perfect. Excuse my online translator .
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Post by: mrhappy on March 11, 2016, 06:31:33 AM
Hey Roy... nice to have some 'youngsters' running about here!! ;D

Davis... if you're interested in Cubase and going to put a fresh OS9.2.2 onto your MDD, check out the 'Instant DAW' download here... it's pretty wild how fast it will install a WHOLE BUNCH of goodies along with 9.2.2! ;D

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2716.0

This resource - just a dream come true !

sempleyaroff... I think most of us here feel that way!! ;D
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Post by: synthcity on March 13, 2016, 06:04:51 AM
Hello.  Long time Mac user, and since I keep just about  everything, a collector.  Heavy Mac user for music (MIDI and DAW) in the OS 8.6 to 9.2 era.  My retired G4 dual mirror door is in storage and I only pull it out every year or two to pull up old tunes.  Perhaps I'll pull it out more often as I check out this site! 
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Post by: davisdelo on March 13, 2016, 06:12:33 AM
if you're interested in Cubase and going to put a fresh OS9.2.2 onto your MDD, check out the 'Instant DAW' download here... it's pretty wild how fast it will install a WHOLE BUNCH of goodies along with 9.2.2! ;D

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2716.0

That does look like a good place to start, Cubase was the only pre-OSX DAW I actually had any experience with anyways.  I'm watching a couple PCI Audiophile 2496 cards on eBay now to take advantage of it :)  That card and a good monitor should have my MDD up and running like new! 
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Post by: devils_advisor on March 13, 2016, 07:59:56 AM
Hello everybody! This resource - just a dream come true !
My configuration - QS733, serial steelth port, opcode studio 4 , PT MIX ( 1 core 3 farm) in Magma 13slot chassis, adaptec 2940 mac edition for hardware samplers.
Very grateful to the creators of the forum and active users ! Unfortunately, my written English is far from perfect. Excuse my online translator .


I'd say that translator did a pretty good job :) welcome to the bunch
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Post by: mrhappy on March 13, 2016, 08:17:41 AM
I keep just about  everything

I have the same disease!!! ;D ;D
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Post by: msolohill on March 13, 2016, 01:11:03 PM
Hey there I'm here to get help repairing macs and finding abandonware anywhere i find it.
Thanks
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Post by: predragr on March 15, 2016, 04:27:57 AM
Hello there,

I have one nice 4core Power Mac G5 (Late 2005), but unfortunatly, I think that can't boot 9.2.2.

Best regards, people...
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Post by: Opcode on March 15, 2016, 07:01:43 PM
Hi guys, just woke up from a 15 year coma and looking to get my PPC G3 desktop doing music again. Looks like you have a good resource here for just that ;)
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Post by: mcdega on March 16, 2016, 02:39:59 AM
Hi there,
I'm trying to recreate some old music of mine and I found this community. It's amazing the material you guys keep alive!
I've got a Power Mac G4 MDD, dual boot (OS 9.2 and OS10.4).
Cheers! :D
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Post by: mrhappy on March 16, 2016, 05:56:18 AM
Hello to all you new members and welcome! ;D
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Post by: MJBA on March 19, 2016, 12:23:12 PM
Hi Everyone! Firstly can I say what an amazing place and resource this site is for folks still using OS9!
I have a couple of G4s. An old AGP Graphics that runs PT5LE with a digi001 that still gets used daily. I also have a G4DP Marathon Power Rack that runs Logic Pro7. I like to make electronic music using mostly hardware kit but like to get everything into protools and then work "in the box" (so to speak)...
Im really interested in the PT5 TDM & Plugins download. I love PT5 and OS9 so much that even now I dont want to upgrade to anything else!

Really tempted to go all TDM if I can get the software. The 888 interfaces and farm cards occasionally spring up on ebay so `i may have to invest. Im based in the UK BTW..
What I also need is the procontrol setup folder that sits in the DAE folder.(If anybody could upload just that file that would be awesome - PT5 format..)

I will be back V soon to post and share some more...

Its been a pleasure!!!! 8) 
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Post by: keith_r25 on March 19, 2016, 06:30:42 PM
Currently have three G3 machines, 266,400,and 500mhz.  (2) apple IIe, IIgs.
Own commodore vic-20, c-64, amiga 1000, amiga 500, osbourne-1, atari 400,800,timex 1000,color computer II, 286,386,486, and pentium varieties.
Wire wrapped my own Synertek Sym-1.
Enjoy electronics, aviation (aerobatics), and all variety of computers.

Thanks for a web site like this!!!!
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Post by: mrhappy on March 20, 2016, 07:26:23 AM
Wow Keith... that's quite a collection!! ;D

MJBA... I have a LE/001 setup too. I'm all audio so went to a TDM/Mix system/Chassis with 7 cards and it's been a LOT of fun and allows a 'modern' style of mixing with the extra horsepower.

So do you use a ProControl with your system? User Knezzen has a pretty elaborate system and I started using one myself. It's been fun!!
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Post by: mrhappy on March 20, 2016, 08:41:20 AM

Really tempted to go all TDM if I can get the software.

What I also need is the procontrol setup folder that sits in the DAE folder.

Can't you download it from the DAW page on this site?? You'd have the software along with the PC profile.
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Post by: PPC6500 on March 22, 2016, 10:27:57 PM
Hi.

I started with 3 older Macs that I owned. A PowerMac 6500/225, a G4-466 digital audio, and a Powerbook G3-233 with passive matrix display. I very recently managed to rescue a few Macs from being recycled recently including an operational pair lamshade iMac G4s, a PowerBook G3 300, an 8600 and a Beige G3 that looks just like it, as well as an LC575, LC580CD, LC475 and my family's old LCII. There is a Color Classic also but I'm not sure if it works yet. I'm slowly locating all my old OS9 games and hope I can get some working. I also salvaged a couple hundred 3.5" floppies and am trying to see which are still usable and contain some really old Mac software. Found a few small freeware/shareware gems so far. Do OS7/8 Macs fit in here? :)

I wish I could have salvaged more of that old collection but ran out of room. There was some really hard to find stuff in there, though no way to tell if it was all operational, like a variety of Mac Classics, SE/30 and 128k, half dozen different CRT-based iMacs, 2 StyleWriters, a LaserWriter, an ImageWriter, a gray clamshell iBook G3 without cables, and a few misc systems that looked to be in really rough shape. I think a friend managed to find a Newton and a Performa 5200 in that pile of stuff too.
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Post by: mrhappy on March 23, 2016, 06:13:45 AM

There was some really hard to find stuff in there, though no way to tell if it was all operational, like a variety of Mac Classics, SE/30 and 128k, half dozen different CRT-based iMacs, 2 StyleWriters, a LaserWriter, an ImageWriter, a gray clamshell iBook G3 without cables, and a few misc systems that looked to be in really rough shape. I think a friend managed to find a Newton and a Performa 5200 in that pile of stuff too.

That's like hitting the lottery around here!! ;D ;D  Welcome aboard!
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Post by: AHmedia on March 26, 2016, 04:19:29 PM
Greetings all!

My story:

I grew up in the 80's! My first computer was an Atari ST (1040 I think it was called). Actually, that's not true! My very first computer was a Sinclair ZX81, followed by a Sinclair ZX Spectrum that my dad bought. Later in the early 90's I owned several Commodore Amiga machines, my beloved Amiga 2000 being my pride and joy until I later jumped on the PC Bandwagon with a used 486, running windows 3.11.
To be honest, I skipped the C64 craze. I was in the Atari ST camp due to it's superiority with MIDI sequencing, running Steinberg's Pro 24 in the 80's. This was Steinberg's flagship sequencer before Cubase I believe. Later of course,  I switched to Cubase on the ST.
Paralell to the Atari ST, I got hooked on the Amiga mainly for gaming.
In the mid 90's, a good (female) friend of mine had a Power Mac (can't remember which one - the mac that is :D) and I was so jealous, but I could never afford one, so I stuck with the growing PC platform. Again, mainly for use as a DAW, which back in those days was not an easy accomplishment!

Somehow, I managed to skip the entire Apple/Mac community until the rise of the iPhone/iPad. These days I own several iPads/iPhones which I hand down to my family members when I upgrade.
I also own a Mac Mini (late 2014 model, which I only got because it was time to own a Mac) - only upgrade I could do was an SSD Drive, but I LOVE my Mini!!!

I've always been interested in Emulations. Especially the machines I grew up with. Aside from the Arcade, Amiga/Atari ST Emu's, I just discovered SheepShaver and installed OS 9.0.4 yesterday and it's running great!

Now I'm here! and thank you all for welcoming me to the community!!
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Post by: bingbong on March 29, 2016, 02:22:34 PM
HI!  I bought my first mac ever in this lifetime.  A $100 G4 Power Mac with 933 processor.  Im pretty excited.  I want to get at those downloads.  Im already sampling Turbosynth and thonk. 
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Post by: CF3 on March 31, 2016, 09:06:03 PM
Howdy all,

I'm putting together an OS9 system to run editor/librarian software for vintage Samplers & Synths. Been lurking around for awhile and have found the info VERY helpful. Decided to join!

Many thanks for all the hard work.

Cheers
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Post by: sagastudios on April 02, 2016, 07:13:50 AM
Greetings, everyone.  I have a couple of PowerMac G4's and five (with parts to spare) PowerBook G4 Titanium machines, and Iuse them for productivity and electronic music.  Glad to have a discovered a place to exchange ideas and tips.

Special thanks to the mods and other folks who make this site possible.

Take care!
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Post by: mioxid on April 04, 2016, 07:29:40 PM
Hi Eveyone!

I am from Mexico, thanks to this site, i am writing this reply on my iBook Clamshell!! it is alive again. 

I bought it five years ago, but it don't had an Operating system, i was trying with different ISO's until finally works OSX leopard... but it works slowly... Today five years later, i don't know why, i just decided to try again and my surprise was to find this site, download the ISO and it works!!!

I was a Windows user because the Mac were so expensive and my parents could not afford it.

One day my father took me to a "Computer Expo" and i saw an iBook and since then i fall in love of it.

Now i finally have my iBook Clamsell Working!!

Thanks!
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Post by: mrhappy on April 04, 2016, 08:01:04 PM

Now i finally have my iBook Clamsell Working!!


Congratulations! ;D
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Post by: Xside on April 09, 2016, 01:59:30 PM
Greetings from chile. I have a mac classic color and a powermac 4400
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Post by: urdvurk on April 09, 2016, 02:00:38 PM
Hi all,

Have been lurking around here for a while now. It's good to see I'm not alone, and that the classic Mac OS still has a following.

OS 9 was the first real experience I had with Macs, and for all its shortcomings, I still have a big soft spot for it. It crashed every now and then, and multitasking is iffy, but still it was so much nicer to use than Windows it's not funny. I still remember the first time I had had to do a hard reset after a hang; whereas Windows would lapse into an fdisk that would take 20 minutes, the Mac simply started up and said something like 'This computer was not shut down properly. Next time use the proper button please.' Brilliant.

I got into emulation with Basilisk and SheepShaver, but then was gifted a Quicksilver G4 and decided to keep it as a Mac OS museum of sorts: it now has 9.2, 10.1, 10.2, 10.3 and 10.4 on it, but I mostly use OS 9. I got a 20" Cinema Display for it for next to nothing, and I am waiting for an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 card. It has now been overclocked from 733 MHz to 867 MHz, and I'm keeping it, if only for the way it looks on my desk.

I've got some games as well as some graphics software I used to work with, but now to go with the new sound card, I am looking to install some DAW software and play around with that.
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Post by: jamunroe on April 12, 2016, 05:35:30 AM
Hello! I'm John from Tokyo. I have a G3 PowerBook (Pismo) that I use for one purpose: Super Wing Commander! I'd like to connect to the Internet and get some of my old software going - but most of it was on floppy disks that died long ago. Anyhow looking forward to getting to know you all!
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Post by: richbike on April 14, 2016, 04:46:15 AM
Hi folks,
I like my retro tech...still got an SE 30 somewhere in a mates attic I think.
Currently into old music kit...reviving my EMU E4X and DX7. Must confess I've resorted to virtual windowsXP for SCSI connectivity with the EMU but if anyone has had success with old Macs also running Reaper id beinterested to know.

cheers
RIch
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Post by: iRolleder on April 20, 2016, 03:57:41 AM
Hey everyone :)

now it's time to introduce myself (hard facts: from Germany, civil engineer :D). Since yesterday I am a proud owner of a powerpook G4 A1025. I bougt it on ebay. The only problem should be a non working dvd drive (it exits the disc after little noise), but therefore it was not that much expensive (100€). So now I have to wait until the package arrives.

Why I bought this powerbook? Since I was seven my family had PC's. And so I learned to use them, play games and finally I tried to code a bit. After 12 years of PC use I finally bought my first mac. there where several advantages, that let me do that (stability, security and so on) So my first mac was a Macbook Pro Mid 2010 which I have bought for University. Since then I am a mac user and it is a much better experience then use windows.

Because I am interested in old stuff I finally found your website a few month ago. since then I read a lot about Mac OS 9 and the older Powerbooks and my decission was clear. I must have a Powerbook which can run Mac OS 9.

So when I get it I will edit this post. :D
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Post by: Draefend on April 20, 2016, 05:05:01 PM
Hello folks
I've been a mac user since 1996 when dad bought a Performa 6400. I was only two years old then so I grew up with the classic Mac OS. A couple of years ago I stumbled upon this site and got nostalgic enough to dig out my old Pismo from storage and install OS 9 on it.
That got me into collecting and since then I've spent more money on old macs than I feel comfortable admitting.
Anyways, I thought it was about time I stopped lurking here and made my existence known.
Cheers
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Post by: GP on April 21, 2016, 04:55:33 AM
Hi there, I'm Gp.

I own Three PowerMac G4's, and four iMac Lampshades all running 9.2.2.

Regarding the G4's, Ones primarily a server, one a backup and one is my main rig.
 
I'm primarily here to browse and discover old audio applications (eg. DAWS) and actually use these for creative works.

I hope to contribute in anyway I can. I might even host an archive of software and games in the future.

Cya Round!
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Post by: Galane on April 22, 2016, 08:46:02 PM
I know a guy who does audio and music. With all the great freebies here I think I'll dig up an old PowerMac and see if I can turn him on to the Macintosh Way. :)
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Post by: bse5150 on April 23, 2016, 01:05:36 PM
I've been using Macs since 1993.  I started with a Classic II and progressed through several other Macs between the Classic II and my current MacBook Pro.

I recently bought a PowerMac G4 (Yikes) and re-ignited my passion for Classic Mac OS (OS 9).  Which, of course, lead me here.
 
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Post by: mac-cellar on April 25, 2016, 11:51:32 AM
Hello All!  Bought my first Mac almost 20 years ago - a Performa 580CD - and have been an avid user and explorer ever since.  I've owned dozens of different machines over the years from compact Macs right up through my current white MacBook. 

I usually have 5-6 older Macs in my basement at any given time, hence my handle: Mac-Cellar.  Right now, my stable includes...

-My beloved eMac: been in the fold the longest has this bulbous old gal.  Rescued her from a recycling center who happened to auction her on eBay before consigning her to the scrap heap.  At the time, I was strapped for cash and my cool black MacBook had been done in by an ill-placed glass of ice water.  The 1.42Ghz 2005 model, she served as my main Mac for 2 1/2 years... now smoothly runs a dual install of Debian 7.10 and Tiger and is still pretty spry.

-Powerbook G4 550 Titanium: Grabbed this beautiful machine on eBay for $45.  Had belonged to a small company, retired a number of years ago and kept in pristine condition in its original box for years.  Company IT sold it off... even wiped the drive and installed all of the updates before sale. This is my OS 9 machine - trying to see how much I can make it do, and having a blast while I'm at it. 
 
-iBook G4 1Ghz: Another eBay steal, and currently my Linux tester. 

-Powerbook 5300ce: Rebuilt from two machines, has max RAM and a rare VST internal power supply making (for now) the notorious loose power connector in the back a non-issue.  Love this little thing - always wanted one, and managed to cobble together two machines the previous owners had given up for dead.

-Powerbook 1400c (FrankenMac): An assembly of parts from several machines, on its 3rd screen, but so cool.  Has the Newertech G3 processor upgrade.

-Powerbook 1400c (The King):  A 1400 nut's dream!  Has the Sonnet 466 G3 upgrade, the 64 MB max RAM, a completely unnecessary but wholly welcome 40 GB hard drive, 12X CD, internal ZIP drive, plus another half-dozen odds and ends.  Bought it on eBay from an electrical parts supplier who really didn't know how much he had.

Happy to find this community.
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Post by: mrpippy on April 26, 2016, 09:03:31 PM
Hi everyone, always happy to find another active classic Mac forum!
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Post by: cruxz on April 29, 2016, 05:53:08 AM
Hi,
I just started using a Mac to record audio from my samplers. First, I wanted a Macbook, but then i figured that an old G3/G4 can get the job done. It works with a cheap soundcard like the 001 which has 8 inputs, so i can also use my DAW as mixer before tracking out.
I have seen this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGEADIjsvPU) and probably after that i found out about os9. My MDD came with PT6.4, but it was skipping throughout the playback, so I thought let's try os9 and an older version of PT.
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Post by: modexist on April 29, 2016, 10:48:08 AM
Hi everyone.

I'm a sound arts student & musician and general sound enthusiast.

Thought this forum looked really good and so far it has proven to live up to that.

I have quite a few Apple Computers, the oldest are an eMac and an iBook Clamshell. I have used Apple Computers all of my life, since I was about 7 or 8 and recently have become very interested in the kinds of Apple Computers I would have used growing up.

I am interested in anything to do with sound old or new!

Very happy to be a part of this forum.
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Post by: kdub on April 29, 2016, 03:08:16 PM
Hi, new to the site. I have a working 32 Chan (4 888/24) Mix P-Tools System v 5.1.3 running on a G4 which I am hoping to port over to a G4MD which is a workhorse and I wish to see running for a few more years. However the G4 is in need of TLC (fan, drives, lithium battery etc)However I've realized there are issues with the G4MD and it requiring OS 9.2.2. Consequently I am trying to get up to speed on if this is even possible etc. FYI  I also have a PT9 32 Chan HD rig in my studio and a PT11 LE set-up on my laptop. Kevin
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Post by: Dannyh on April 29, 2016, 03:29:20 PM
Evening all and thanks for allowing me in,

Had an iMac G3 slot loader quite a few years ago, and recently rescued and refurbished a PowerMac G4 AGP Graphics and a MDD G4 with the loudest PSU you've ever heard. I work with Apple products, and for all the OS X machines and modern systems out there, I keep coming back to OS 9, the older Macs and the fun they all hold.

The only problem I've found is that my collection of machines is growing rapidly and I seem to keep visiting a certain auction site to see what my next classic machine will be. Apart from the MDD and the G4 AGP machine, I've got two 15" Flat Panel iMacs, a 17" Flat Panel iMac, Titanium Powerbook, and an iBook. They were all being scrapped due to various problems and faults and with a bit of work, searching for RAM, a PSU, graphics cards, HDDs, TLC and a good clean, they all work.

Looking forward to being here, and having fun,

Danny
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Post by: kelotti on April 30, 2016, 01:42:55 AM
Hello there :)

I'm a student from Japan making music as a hobby.

I have a G4 MMD with a 15" Studio Display but I mainly use an iMac (Mid 2010) for music.
Recently, I've got some old hardware so I'm going to work on it and to revive the old PPC machine.

Thank you! -afro-
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Post by: honasvocas on April 30, 2016, 03:29:37 PM
Hello.

have just bought a G3 iMAC on a yardsale to revive old retro memories.

Love it!
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Post by: Mrphil on May 02, 2016, 11:06:17 PM
Hello!
What a great forum, I thought I was alone in running an OS 9 machine again and I don't think it would be possible without some of the resources here!
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Post by: synthhero on May 10, 2016, 08:38:57 AM
Hello there!

My name is George.
I´m a house music beatmaker and 2d/3d CG artist from Moscow/Russia. Love to used different old-school music tools like Apple PPC, Atari STe/Falcon, Emu IIIxp, Akai S1100, Akai MPC4000, Roland S770, Digidesign ProTools MIX…
Macos9lives is absolutely incredible time machine, and i will be happy to be a part of this community! :D
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Post by: mrhappy on May 10, 2016, 03:12:59 PM
welcome all you new peeps!! ;D ;D
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Post by: ziggy29 on May 14, 2016, 03:42:55 AM
Hi folks --

Long time regular on many other boards, playing with my older Macs for a long time now as a hobbyist trying to make the most out of them.  I do have a Late 2012 Mini (quad i7) but often come back to "play" with my older Macs under OS 9, Tiger and Leopard.  More of my recent activity has been back in the OS 9 world with a Pismo (G4/550), a recently acquired 1 GHz Ti Powerbook (last 'Book to support booting into OS 9) and a G4 Digital Audio (upgraded with X800 graphics and a 1.5 GHz processor). 
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Post by: geforceg4 on May 17, 2016, 06:20:57 AM
thanks for the grate site
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Post by: Jakl on May 19, 2016, 12:35:43 AM
Welcome all you new peoples and enjoy  :) :) :)
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Post by: perk0vic on May 23, 2016, 05:05:39 PM
Hey I'm using an iMac g3 running 9.2.2
Thanks!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: jules_the_dudess on May 25, 2016, 01:53:29 PM
Hi Everyone! Juliana here! I bought my iBook G3/466 SE (Firewire/Clamshell) in New York in September 2000, right when it came out. It worked absolutely fine until 2005 or 2006 (don't remember, sorry) when it would go to sleep mode right after turning it on. I left it in a drawer for years until a few days ago. For some reason I was determined to make it work again. Browsing the net I found some useful info about the PMU and battery life, so I reset the PMU and the PRAM and apparently it's working fine. I guess I would have to buy another battery sometime later on as the original does not charge.

However I must tell you all and please don't be mad at me: I hated Apple for years, because at the time (2001 - 2005) I lived in Brazil and it was almost impossible to find software and pieces (I remember the power cord broke and it was an oddisey to find the official Apple Store in Sao Paulo).

This iBook went through many things with me in different stages of my life, so I'm really happy it's working again!

It runs Mac OS 9.1 and I'm waiting for the Airport Card to arrive (actually I had bought one at the time, but I ended up losing it).

I wanted to update the OS, so I download versio 9.2.2 from here, but I'm a bit scared to install it. What if I lose everything? 

Thank you all!
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Post by: Mat on May 25, 2016, 03:38:06 PM
Hi Juliana!

I wanted to update the OS, so I download versio 9.2.2 from here, but I'm a bit scared to install it. What if I lose everything? 

No need to fear anything.

I did for sure 100 Mac OS updates in my live, and never had any problems with loosing data. The Mac OS 9.2.2 Update is working absolutely well! I cannot 100% confirm that for the English or Portuguese OS updates, but the German one worked always without any issues! And as you are doing an update, there is also no possibility that you    unintentionally reformat or repartition your HD.
BUT; Mac OS 9.2.2 is a lot heavier and a little bit slower than 9.1. So from my point of view I wouldn´t do an update until you really need some functionallity from it to run some special user application (for example Final Cut pro 2 or similar).
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Post by: jules_the_dudess on May 26, 2016, 01:36:38 AM
Hi Juliana!

BUT; Mac OS 9.2.2 is a lot heavier and a little bit slower than 9.1. So from my point of view I wouldn´t do an update until you really need some functionallity from it to run some special user application (for example Final Cut pro 2 or similar).

Hi Mat,

Thanks! Yeah, I think you're right :) The 9.1 works absolutely fine and I'm not a heavy user. I just use text processor and some web browsing, so I'll probably leave as it is for now. I'm thinking about upgrading the HD and the RAM and getting a new battery, so when I do that, I might move to OS X, but it's fine for now. I'm just so happy my clamshell is working again!

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Post by: MacTron on May 26, 2016, 08:00:11 AM
BUT; Mac OS 9.2.2 is a lot heavier and a little bit slower than 9.1.

Not at all. The main improvements of 9.2 over 9.1 is speed.

The 9.0 is slower than 8.6 and buggy as hell.
The 9.1 is slower than 8.6 but very estable.
The 9.2 is as fast as 8.6 and very estable.
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Post by: mikewolak on May 26, 2016, 08:55:28 AM
Hello,

Mike from Austin, TX here. I've just resurrected my G4 OS 9.2.2 PT5 TDM rig. I've done a complete rebuild/reinstall and it's still coming together. Glad to see a forum like this exists.

Thanks!
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Post by: prescot on May 30, 2016, 12:55:26 AM
Hi all ! been building me a beige g3 fun stuff 
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Post by: spierlejewski on June 05, 2016, 05:11:42 PM
Hi all
90's electronic muso aiming to relive my glory days by ditching modern computers and going back to hardware samplers! Found this when researching how to get my new G4 up and running 😊
Great to see so many resources available!
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Post by: Skinnydog on June 08, 2016, 07:01:02 AM
Ok. I've been lurking here on and off for about two years. This is a fantastic resource for those of us who started recording digitally on Mac OS 9 and still have a lot of old Macs that can be re-purposed for making music.

I started out with DP 2.7 and a Motu 1224 audio card circa 2001. I still use DP 3.1 now as well as the 1224, but thanks to this site, I've also discovered Cubase VST 5.1, which I've found to be much more to my liking in terms of the workflow. Cubase enabled me to use midi in a way I had never really used it with DP, perhaps because DP on OS9 never offered virtual instruments natively the way Cubase does.

I was mainly audio anyway and had no external modules with which to use midi. But that's all changed now.

I also love recording to tape and own a number of cassette and reel-to-reel machines. I like the ease with which Cubase allows me to test ideas and arrange songs, in addition to the extra instrumentation the software offers through VST. I can now record these arrangements to tape, along with live audio and the dump the recorded tape tracks to digital for editing or mixdown to free up more tape tracks. This is mucho fun, and it's all thanks to this site and the incredible knowledge shared here.
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Post by: elDot on June 14, 2016, 01:15:28 PM
Hello.
I am a Mac user since 2005.
I recently upgraded the RAM of my iBook G4. I don't know why. I feel it is a pity that this computer is perfect and it works just as the first day and now it is unusable...
But it still runs a copy of Rebirth on Classic! 8)
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Post by: will9 on June 14, 2016, 01:26:39 PM
Hello.
I am a Mac user since 2005.
I recently upgraded the RAM of my iBook G4. I don't know why. I feel it is a pity that this computer is perfect and it works just as the first day and now it is unusable...
But it still runs a copy of Rebirth on Classic! 8)

Definitely give Reason a go as well if you havent already! The OS and software may be dated, but artistic ideas never stop. Your iBook could be a distraction free way to express yourself. You might be surprised with the ideas you come up with when twitter and facebook and forums aren't easily available (or not at all if you choose)
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Post by: Mat on June 14, 2016, 02:25:33 PM
I feel it is a pity that this computer is perfect and it works just as the first day and now it is unusable...
Oh, it isn´t unusable. It is just the big companies upgrade trademill for gaining profit that wants us to think that way. If you once stopped to follow them you´´ll see that it is not necessary. As you said, the machine is still doing what it did back then. ;)
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Post by: kokuen on June 21, 2016, 07:21:28 PM
Hi everyone!

I started out with an Apple II GS way back, then eventually stepped up to a 6100 60/av running System 7.  After that went through various used machines like Powerbook 5300, Beige G3, MacBooks with OS 10.

Oddly enough I missed most of the Mac OS 9 era running Windows and Linux for school and work.  Recently I traded a MacBook for a Digital Audio G4, so I have something nice that boots Mac OS 9 natively.
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Post by: a.ginger.turtwig on June 29, 2016, 06:33:55 PM
Hi I found this forum after looking for os9 instal cds. I got a Power Mac G4 (yikes!) from my dad. I think it was a old file server or something.
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Post by: xsys on July 01, 2016, 10:04:29 AM
I confess...I still use OS9.

Actually, I just installed an ssd into my G4 (digital audio). I also have a rather rare Korg Oasys pci card installed, along with two Silicon Graphics 1600sw monitors. I don't think this OS or the hardware is obsolete at all :)

But, I should also confess that it is a dual boot to OSX. I just want to be honest and upfront. I'm not cheating...just curious.

I will contribute any way I can.
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Post by: zerohour on July 04, 2016, 06:37:45 PM
Hello ...

I have been working with G3, G4 and G5 machines with varying levels of success.  Current machine is a Quicksilver 800Mh G4 and I have been experimenting with Classic Apps.

Hopefully I can find some apps of use.

I stated using Macs in college with Mac Classics and Microsoft Word and Aldus Pagemaker 3.  So I have used Macs on and off for years.

As well as the G3,4 & 5 I also have a PowerBook 1400 and a Newton 2100.  So a bit of a Mac enthusiast.
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Post by: GaryN on July 05, 2016, 05:25:32 PM
But, I should also confess that it is a dual boot to OSX.
Don't worry, you have lots of company. We're enthusiasts, not fanatics…well, most of us anyway.
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Post by: fred0c on July 09, 2016, 04:43:21 PM
Hello,
Dusting off my old samplers and Macs to use them again for production.
I'm from NYC, but presently living in Seattle area.

Been into music since '88, and still keeps me alive and well!
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Post by: Imiyashiro on July 14, 2016, 05:44:28 PM
Hello from Vermont.

First computer I used, in grade school, was an Apple IIe; a few in middle school; but finally became a true convert in '06. Have had a few Intels since and have been working a bit backwards as well.

Love the lifespan of the majority of my Macs so far...

Happy to have found an actuve and open community.
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Post by: jamey777 on July 14, 2016, 06:52:56 PM
Howdy... going to use my new (to me) powerbook 1400c to run some old synthesizers...
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Post by: xsys on July 15, 2016, 02:58:51 PM
I don't know how to upload (new here) so I attached some hard to find drivers to this message. The entire folder was compressed using 7zip, so you will need to un-7zip first.

The drivers are for the Silicon Valley Bus Company "Multiport Expander".

Please lambaste me if this is really inappropriate to do, and I will go stand in the corner for the rest of the day  ;)
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Post by: lesantoro2 on July 16, 2016, 10:23:23 AM
Hello everyone! -afro-
I'm a brazilian who fell in love for Mac and OS since 2009,
that still uses a G4. I work as a music producer here and
i am an enthusiastic for everything that is MAC related.
The design and intuitive of the system still incredible.
Very happy to find you guys here and exchange
experiences and some hard to find old software beauties.

Cheers OS9 Community  :D
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Post by: pyramid termite on July 18, 2016, 12:17:18 PM
well, here i am - i found a mac summer 2000 g3/500 at a thrift store for 20 bucks - it booted so i bought it - it's running os x, but thanks to the kind providing of mac 9.2.2. by this website, i can boot os 9 on a usb flash drive

this should be interesting
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Post by: williameric on July 24, 2016, 02:01:28 PM
Hi,I am from Germany and a fan of old Macintosh for along time.
REgards
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Post by: widdly on July 25, 2016, 04:33:47 PM
Hi All,

I found an EMac in the hard rubbish.  I first started out on pentiums pc with cubase vst when it first came out.   I'm hoping set up the same software as I user back then on the emac.  Maybe I will be more productive inatead of focussing on new stuff all the time.

thanks for the great resource.
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Post by: Pushpull76 on July 26, 2016, 11:43:11 AM
Hello guys :-)

Alex from Italy here,worked in the past for several music production companies here. I'm a mac user from 1987, still have my old machines with me (a 128k, a IIfx, a G3 blue and white, a lot of newer machines i'm currently using for my work.
I have experience on Logic Audio (platinum, from 3.0 to the last versions) in several environments, like Protools systems on nubus/PCI architecture in stand alone mode (digital mixing) or mixed mode, with DDA, SSL and Neve analog mixers.
I'm currently turning on all my old macs, in order to restore my old song backups made with LAP 4.8.1
This forum is awesome, thanks for the work!!!
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Post by: NineLives on July 26, 2016, 02:03:00 PM
Hi all, a short message from your newest member!  :)

I've been a mac user since around 97, started with a beige monstrosity, then G3 tower, MDD "wind-tunnel", G3 and G4 iBooks, Macbook black, Macbook air and Mac Mini. Been producing music all this time, I have some old patches on the iBook G3 but the graphic card died, which prompted me to find an OS9 machine again - the G3 tower went bust in a puff of smoke long ago and I got rid of the G4 tower a few years ago like a fool... too heavy and doubles as a heater etc. well yes but as we all know there are loads of great weird little OS9 progs which never made the jump to brave new OSX land. Anyway on Sunday I got hold of a G4 tower for 20 euros, not bad you'll agree, especially given that it has a 1,42 GHz upgrade, making it the fastest OS9 machine (?) One firewire target disk mode session later I can check out what I was doing 10, 15 years ago... wow time machines are real..  8)
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Post by: NineLives on July 26, 2016, 02:06:56 PM
forgot to add... the machine didn't come with OS9 so thanks to you guys I've been able to go back to the future THANK YOU  :)
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Post by: tiousable on July 29, 2016, 06:46:01 PM
Hi everyone! Been wanting to get into older macs recently (never had one before, and there's some games I always wanted to play, like high-res Star Wars Dark Forces), eventually got a G4 for a good price. Then found this site when I decided OS X was a) feeling rather slow on that box and b) it didn't offer anything much over OS 9. So here I am!
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Post by: monitorninja on August 02, 2016, 10:44:23 AM
Hi All!

I've been an Apple user since the Apple IIe. The first mac I owned was an LCII. I need to fix the power supply but it booted a few years ago.

My current job has reunited me with a computer from a former lifetime, a Beige G3 running OS 8.1 and ProTools 4.3 with an 888/24 I/O

I've got it up to OS 9.2.2 and PT 5.1.3 (which is how I discovered this forum) and now just seeing what else is out there!

I've got a Quicksilver G4 at home that used to run a Digi001 that I'm thinking of moving the 888/24 and d24 cards too.
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Post by: Rural Juror on August 04, 2016, 09:54:32 AM
Well, where to begin?

I've been interested in computers since Christmas 1988 when my parents purchased our first computer, a Commodore 64 (I'm showing my age!). When it eventually came time to upgrade to something a bit more flexible, my dad borrowed a Macintosh Classic (I think) from his work for a weekend or two, and it left a lasting impression.

I remember being enamoured with this computer that was like nothing I'd ever seen before. The idea that you didn't need to know what commands to type in order to do what you wanted to do, that everything was represented graphically, it was fascinating. System 7, the high resolution graphics, the ability to record and play back sound, a mouse, the whole design... it was all so intuitive, I could have (and did!) played around on it for hours.

Unfortunately it did have to be returned, and after lots of looking around at all the different options available we went with a PC (~1992) as the Macintoshes were just too expensive, and I've stuck with owning PCs since. I do think that it was a good thing however, because it definitely provided a steeper learning curve, which I don't think is a bad thing.

Anyway, several years later (~2000) one of my older brothers started working at a local post production facility doing 3D work (on a PC) where, perhaps not surprisingly, they exclusively used Macs. I sometimes provided support on the Windows side of things where it was required, but seeing the many different Macs in use running OS X piqued my interest. I bought a second hand Powermac G4 Sawtooth off of eBay, cleaned it up and upgraded it a bit, and put OS 9 and OS X Tiger on it. I'm sorry to say that I've only recently started to play around with it a bit more, but even though it's over 15 years old there's still (to me) something special about it. Maybe it's nothing more that nostalgia, maybe not. I find it a bit sad that these older machines are considered "worthless" by most, and so are discarded. :'(

I do wonder what will happen when the last of the OS 9 capable hardware ceases to operate. If it can't be emulated, is all the software then lost to history? :(

Anyway, I think I found this forum when I was trying to find the easiest way to upgrade my G4 to support SATA drives. Thanks for reading if you've come this far! ;D

tl;dr: I have a Powermac G4 Sawtooth ;)
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Post by: blakbeltjonez on August 04, 2016, 07:23:21 PM

Hi everybody,

I'm from Florida, a long time Mac audio user from way back in '91 or '92 - still have a MDD G4 and PPC 7100 to get up and running again to use 2 old Emax samplers and an Emu E-6400 among other things alongside my Mac mini. my wife is not too thrilled about my collection of gear, computers, and obsolete drives and cables that i have amassed after 25 years...
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Post by: Lordgiffnock on August 05, 2016, 09:11:39 PM
Hi there,

I've been sequencing on the Atari with Notator since 1996
Still love it but after 20 years thought it may be time for an update.
I've purchased a Mac Performa 6360, logic audio for Mac 2.5 with original dongles and Yamaha cbx extension and a Yamaha cbx d-5.
I'm new to old macs and I need help to get this running

Thanks
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Post by: mrhappy on August 06, 2016, 12:02:39 AM

I do wonder what will happen when the last of the OS 9 capable hardware ceases to operate. If it can't be emulated, is all the software then lost to history?

Ah c'mom man... Don't bum everyone out with those depressing thoughts!!! ;D ;D... but yeah, that would be a major bummer with no OS9! ... Channeling my inner  Charlton Heston!!! ;D ;D
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Post by: mrhappy on August 06, 2016, 12:07:54 AM

 my wife is not too thrilled about my collection of gear, computers, and obsolete drives and cables that i have amassed after 25 years...

I think you'll find a LOT of sympathizers here! ;D ;D

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Post by: mrhappy on August 06, 2016, 12:09:12 AM
I need help to get this running


Certainly came to the right place!!! ;D ;D
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Post by: Nandos0804 on August 10, 2016, 06:55:32 AM
Sono nuovo del posto! Mi avvicino adesso a questo forum dal momento che sto per frequentare il primo anno di ingegneria del suono nel mio paese. Grazie per l'aiuto che mi avete dato sino ad oggi! Lieto di far parte di questa community
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Post by: geforceg4 on August 10, 2016, 10:14:44 AM
wow this thread is becoming the largest thread on the site;) welcome to all :)
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Post by: doomguy on August 30, 2016, 10:07:47 AM
Hi all!

Glad to have found this site, lots of good information here. I've been working to get my homelab set up again, and my interest in vintage Mac seems to have lit up again! Because of limited space, I am currently looking into some ways to finally getting some sort of ADB KVM solution set up so that I can enjoy my machines without having to mess around with plugging and unplugging.  8)
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Post by: Mat on August 30, 2016, 02:25:57 PM
Warmely welcome, all new members.

doomguy, Dr. Bott is still selling new ADB Switches. Not quite cheap, but as you can use 4 Macs at once with one single display and mouse/keyboard it is perhaps an option for you: http://catalog.drbott.info/html/items.php?groupid=ADBGeraete&showdetails=11399#11399
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Post by: kaijuu on August 30, 2016, 05:57:08 PM
Hello! Long time Apple // and Mac user. Just dug some old classic Macs out of the attic and have been enjoying the Low End Mac and Apple ][ Enthusiast Facebook groups.
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Post by: mathwrath on August 31, 2016, 11:20:39 AM
greets,

just got a pismo off ebay, having a blast replaying all my old shareware titles and audio apps!
cool site!
Title: hello - love it!
Post by: soulseeker on August 31, 2016, 04:50:15 PM
hello everybody - thanx for this place - this is fun - till now I was sure I'll end up all alone with my (g4 with digidesign mix+ hardware and logic 6) HDrecordingsystem.
we will be the new vintage kings -afro- and as a guitarist I know how important vintage is  ;D

have a nice day and never stop seeking for some soul!

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Post by: shazbot on September 01, 2016, 04:27:46 AM
Hi Guys just some brief info about myself. Been using mac around 20 years, worked in pro-audio sales/tech support for about 10 and also freelance audio editor. Now work as Clinical Simulation Tech which encompasses healthcare, moulage. audio, video and networking. I have to take my hat of to the creators/admins of this site. Basically it's mint, very well organised and maintained. I feel like I've gone back to the future! Had no idea it existed until last year. Kicking myself! I have so much gear, interfaces, software but OS9 and older mac is where I was most creative. It's time to go back and blend the old with the new. Picked up my first original Powerbook 1Ghz Ti last summer and an old emagic 62m. I had this machine in 2002, cost a fortune dug out my Logic Pro 6.4 and XSKey with Reason 2.5 and I was away. I have since picked up a 1.25 MDD 2003 Single y'day. Found the original images on here adding some ram and a couple of drives later. Toying with an SSD but need to do more research re OS9 etc Just grabbed an RMEDigi96/8Pad also. Gonna take the adat out of the RME into my Audient ID22 which is connected to my Mac Pro hex core (hacked obviously). Very excited:) I think nowadays there are just too many distractions and menus and times with DAWS. Anyway have to dash - nice to join the party.  -afro-
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Post by: mrhappy on September 01, 2016, 06:46:07 AM
Welcome aboard new peeps!! ;D ;D
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Post by: Bilo2016 on September 03, 2016, 12:25:18 AM
Hi there,

greetings to all this site is amazing.
a lot of important informations and more
Regards


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Post by: ikki on September 04, 2016, 05:48:44 PM
Just got this G4 tower for $25 I feel the power of OS9 I'm never going back
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Post by: BazW on September 05, 2016, 07:23:10 AM
Hi

Came across this site in my efforts to revive some old VSTi's and am hoping you will be able to help.

Regards
BazW
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: judicator.exe on September 07, 2016, 06:24:25 AM
 :) Happy to be a part of a community that's bringing new life to old macs. I own two 1.25 G4 MDD Powermacs, three Titanium 1Ghz Powerbooks and two 17" 1.67 DVI-DL Al-powerbooks (along with much newer macs), a MOTU 828 Original and a MOTU 828 MKII firewire soundcard - all in almost pristine physical condition. Special thanks to community forums such as this for keeping the old PPC relevant. I figured i would take the time to teach (as a volunteer) aspiring elementary-age kids around the community the basics of digital audio production. Using cheap PPC macs from Ebay truly made the endeavor happen. I still use my newer macs for my professional DAW needs along with freshly licensed versions of modern DAWS, but the old PPC hw/sw bring a nostalgic and educational perspective (like learning work-load optimization and working with limitations because of slower processor) that truly helps the students learn and appreciate modern technologies. Best wishes to all your projects!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on September 07, 2016, 07:28:57 AM
I own two 1.25 G4 MDD Powermacs, three Titanium 1Ghz Powerbooks and two 17" 1.67 DVI-DL Al-powerbooks

That's a nice pile of old junk you've got there Judicator!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: dnov on September 08, 2016, 06:25:04 AM
Hi!

I'm the proud owner of an iMac G3 (indigo 500MHZ)! and some intel machines as well. I'm excited about meeting other people who use vintage macs to make music. I live in a small town, and this forum looks like it will be a good place to learn more and talk about this stuff! :)

- D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: KTB on September 08, 2016, 10:04:24 AM
OK, time to break my silence.  Happy OS9 user here.  I don't remember how I found this site but glad I did.  I have always used Macs for making music as a hobby.  First time I saw Cubase I was like WOW!  So in 1996 (or somewhere around there) I became a proud owner of a Powermac 8500 and Cubase 3.0.  I bought a Digital Audio 733 10 years ago and have since moved on to Logic 4.6 and loving it.  My most recent G4 is a MDD 1.25 SP for Logic Pro 6.  However I seem to have misplaced that damn USB dongle.  It will pop up somewhere at some point (I hope  :-[).

Looking forward to learning more from all of you and hope to contribute where possible!

Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: joetramp on September 09, 2016, 08:22:19 AM
Hi all!

I own a iMac G3 and a PowerMac G4 MDD (and a couple of broken macbooks...). I haven't used any of them for quite some years now and was about to sell them on ebay. While making Photos I just came up with the Idea to integrate the iMac into my studio setup to use it as a sound generator with Reason 2.5. So I went to the internet to get a copy of a Mac OS 9 iso because OS/X won't run very well and I stumbled upon this forum. It seems to be a (the best?) great place to get some old software you can't even find on eBay anymore and I want to say thank you for approving my account. 

I'm still not sure what to do with the MDD because it is WAY too loud to use it as a music production machine (it is REALLY loud, omg). While thinking of it, I could sample the fan's sound... :-)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: geforceg4 on September 09, 2016, 06:44:28 PM

I'm still not sure what to do with the MDD because it is WAY too loud to use it as a music production machine (it is REALLY loud, omg). While thinking of it, I could sample the fan's sound... :-)

theres threads here on how to fix the noise... quite a few diff conversations on that.. bu it comes down to replacing the fans in the powersupply its very easy + requires not a lot of skill no soldering involved if u splice the wire + reconnect with Electrical tape like i did!
its totally worth the effort to have an MDD that is quiet.... awesome machine.. a bit heavy a bit loud.. but its worth it to lessen the noise!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: lovecolour on September 11, 2016, 11:49:50 PM
Thanks for the welcome.
Look forward to learning as much as possible.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: AeonicB on September 12, 2016, 11:22:54 PM
Hey, just wanted to give an introduction.

I still have my Boat Anchor Blueberry iMac around, solely for audio work and talking to sequencers through a MIDIMan with MIDIGraphy.

Just wanted to give a wave. :)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: crs117 on September 15, 2016, 06:32:47 PM
Thanks for setting this up.

I am crs117 from the digidesign forums since around 98. I was heavily involved until my life took a different direction.

A friend of mine's g3 with a 24 mix plus crashed. He is trying to upgrade to a g4, while not much of an upgrade but he needs to get up and running asap to finish a set of sessions. Unfortunately he cannot find his pt.5.1 disk, 5 and before is not compatible with his g4 with OS 9.2.2 and he never upgraded above that. If i can find a 5.1 install disk for mac tdm we should be able to get his studio up and running again.

It is so frustrating with all of the money invested in his PT systems that installation media is impossible to find. So thanks for setting this up you are doing a great thing.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: sidoh on September 15, 2016, 11:43:02 PM
Hello to all here. I'm a relatively young user but I hope to spend some more time here.

When I was very young, I have played around with G3's and G4's at various places and, if i remember correctly, even owned a G3 at one point. (All I know is that I ran OS 9 and OS X 10.0-10.2 on that thing, judging from the wallpapers I remember.) Sadly, I don't know what happened to that machine and it was eventually replaced by an iBook G4.  :(

Hey, at least I still have Classic Mode. After all, Classic Mode is better than not running OS 9 at all.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on September 16, 2016, 05:54:28 AM
Welcome aboard new peeps! ;D

I'm a relatively young user

 at least I still have Classic Mode.

'Classic Mode' is just a 'Hobby Horse'... We need to get you young 'Whipper-Snappers' ridin' the real deal!! ;D

"High-Ho Silver...Away!!!".... (you youngsters will have to google THAT one! Haha!!)  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: geforceg4 on September 16, 2016, 08:00:07 AM
Thanks for setting this up.

I am crs117 from the digidesign forums since around 98. I was heavily involved until my life took a different direction.

A friend of mine's g3 with a 24 mix plus crashed. He is trying to upgrade to a g4, while not much of an upgrade but he needs to get up and running asap to finish a set of sessions. Unfortunately he cannot find his pt.5.1 disk, 5 and before is not compatible with his g4 with OS 9.2.2 and he never upgraded above that. If i can find a 5.1 install disk for mac tdm we should be able to get his studio up and running again.

It is so frustrating with all of the money invested in his PT systems that installation media is impossible to find. So thanks for setting this up you are doing a great thing.

pretty easy to find that here ;) thanks to the macos9lives contributors!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: sidoh on September 16, 2016, 01:36:04 PM
Welcome aboard new peeps! ;D

I'm a relatively young user

 at least I still have Classic Mode.

'Classic Mode' is just a 'Hobby Horse'... We need to get you young 'Whipper-Snappers' ridin' the real deal!! ;D

"High-Ho Silver...Away!!!".... (you youngsters will have to google THAT one! Haha!!)  ;D ;D ;D

I'll pray a thousand prayers for thy death. (Old reference challenge accepted.)  ;D

Anyways, I tried getting a PDQ G3 Powerbook a couple of years back, but I lost the bidding on ebay. I have also heard that QEMU has made great progress in emulating OS 9 recently (although the FPU emulation is extremely slow, and there's no sound). I'll try the 'dark side' and see how it goes.

Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: rvense on September 16, 2016, 05:06:06 PM
Hey. I'm just here to help keep my brother's old Sawtooth G4 running.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: geforceg4 on September 22, 2016, 10:56:59 PM
congrats to all on 2000th member of the site! September 2016!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: roamingrob on September 30, 2016, 06:25:15 PM
Greetings  ;D ........  I am a Mac user since the Mac 128.  I have had a LOT of Mac systems over the years and recently I have decided to get back the roots and explore what I can do with some of the 68K and PPC machines.  I recently got a "$10.00" imac G4 up and running again and have 10.4.11 and OS 9.2.2 running.   It's really great to have stumbled upon this site.......  very exciting !!!   I really believe the "old" systems have a place in this world for creative work.  .... anyhow..... glad to be here :)

Bob
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: geforceg4 on September 30, 2016, 07:58:57 PM
I really believe the "old" systems have a place in this world for creative work.  .... anyhow..... glad to be here :)

Bob


love this comment, and i couldnt agree more!!!!!!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Salvo B on October 02, 2016, 02:57:28 PM
HI Everyone!

I Would like to introduce myself... I was a long time PPC mac user since my Powerbook G4 Aluminium started to not displaying any output (even if I know for sure that it works, probably the video card is messed up).
Nowdays i've bought an iMac G3 Indigo 500 MHz for placing in my studio as a cool design object and of course to using it as an external synth/sound generator unit in my DAW (windows based...) setup (that BTW includes also a Commodore 64 w MSSIAH cartidge).

Thanks to the efforts of this community i was able to install OS 9.2.2 and getting a lot of cool software and hints to configure my old mac.

Well, so thanks for accepting my subscription, I think that here I'll find a nice place for discussing everything OS9 and all DAW related topics
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: JohnT on October 03, 2016, 11:29:52 AM
Hi All,

Thanks for the OK, nice to see this community up and running.

Long time Mac user here, 1st one was out of a skip from our old college, an old Performa with OS7....moved up to the new iMac and that survived years on OS8/9, then moved to a G4 466 DA, loved that machine, (OS9 & OSX) then found a QS at the tip that just needed a HD and up and running, all gone now sadly but we still have a G5 (PPC) and our daughter uses an Intel G5 for her work (Illustration), although I still have the original 15" Monitor (ADC) that we got with the G4.

But there is hope, picked up a 867 DP (MDD) yesterday for £12, a bit disappointed at first as it was advertised as a 1.25 SP as it was solely bought for recording music but hey ho no doubt it will do what I need it to. : )

My name is John and I use a Mac.

: )

Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: geforceg4 on October 03, 2016, 05:31:12 PM
picked up a 867 DP (MDD) yesterday for £12, a bit disappointed at first as it was advertised as a 1.25 SP as it was solely bought for recording music but hey ho no doubt it will do what I need it to. : )


i had one before - its a great machine despite it not being "the best" it still is great + felt speedy to me when i used one.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: deluxxx on October 03, 2016, 07:16:29 PM
Hello friends I have a new iMac g3 http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac_dv_400.html

I found it on the way to the dump with a dead hard drive and 64mb of ram :(

I added 1gb ram and a 40gb silent drive. Now not running.  I think it will have a nice place in my home as a boombox / thin client / music server.

I also use a PowerBook G4 as a daily driver (with Debian)but I have only slightly used macos10 and never macos9.

I'm here to learn about the power behind macOS and find a use case for my iMac G3.

Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: LocoTaskMaster on October 04, 2016, 09:47:50 AM
I am Chris, I have a number of legacy Macs, a 512, PowerBook, 7100, etc. and enjoy getting them working and maxed out, and somewhat modernized, such as replacing the hard disks with SCSI2SD. I have many vintage synths that I'm getting hooked back up after a few years of inactivity and working on getting the sw and hw to do this again, and happened upon this group.  Looking forward to reading through the posts and getting new ideas too.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: JohnT on October 04, 2016, 10:24:39 AM
picked up a 867 DP (MDD) yesterday for £12, a bit disappointed at first as it was advertised as a 1.25 SP as it was solely bought for recording music but hey ho no doubt it will do what I need it to. : )


i had one before - its a great machine despite it not being "the best" it still is great + felt speedy to me when i used one.

Good to hear, it will be set up and used until I get a 1.25 at the right price and then passed on.

:)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mikkmuzik on October 10, 2016, 03:17:06 PM
Hi I have never posted on here before, I started using a G3 233 in 2001 before that i had an Atari 1040  :D Then progressed to a 333 then a G4 933 now in my studio a dp1.25 this will be my last mac i have. I hate change for change sake, with that i run VST 5.1 maudio 2496 midiman 2x4 and delta 66 ......Mikk
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: johngeronilla on October 10, 2016, 03:57:08 PM
hey all,

Just got a powerbook g4 w/ mac os 9.

Looking forward to being part of the community.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Patrick Philipot on October 18, 2016, 04:02:29 AM
Hello guys,

My name is patrick, I'm french and I live in France, in Montpellier (south of France near the mediterranean see). Thanks to the forum I've been able to install mac OS 9 on a PowerMac G4 733 Mhz Quicksilver I had just acquired. It was yesterday.

The first thing I've done was to register to this forum using a freshly installed Netscape 7. I wanted to say thank you.

The PowerMac G4 733 Mhz Quicksilver is a machine I could not afford when I was young. I'm now 57. As many, the first Apple thing I got was an iPod. The first iMac I bought, I kept it only for one day because it was missing some clunky softwares I was used to, and because I was still kind of stupid at the time. I gave it to my son, who was more than happy with it.

I got the idea of getting some old macintosh after reading an article in "Infinite loops - Ars Technica" about HyperCard. After that I watched an interview of Bill Atkinson (the father of HyperCard) on Youtude (Triangulation 244 with Leo Laporte). After some testing with emulators, I wanted to get the real thing. And that's how I came here.

I had no idea there were still so many people and sites devoted to the old macintosh. I have some things to discover. It's kind of a gold mine to explore.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: geforceg4 on October 18, 2016, 11:06:16 PM
Hi I have never posted on here before, I started using a G3 233 in 2001 before that i had an Atari 1040  :D Then progressed to a 333 then a G4 933 now in my studio a dp1.25 this will be my last mac i have. I hate change for change sake, with that i run VST 5.1 maudio 2496 midiman 2x4 and delta 66 ......Mikk


does the audiphile 2496 work in combination with the delta 66? i think i remember reading that you can easily use these together iwth the same driver? up to 4 cards?
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: madalynmcworm on October 19, 2016, 04:24:50 PM
Hello!
Picked up a MDD, needed something classic to mess with. Tired of newer stuff.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mnemic on October 24, 2016, 10:53:05 AM
hi everyone, i'm from Moscow and i like old system mac os very much. i work on pro tools tdm 5.3.1 for a long time and i'm happy that I've found this forum, where i can find people holding the same views
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: bmfm5 on November 01, 2016, 08:32:06 AM
Used Cubase back in the 90s and just came across all my old files.  I want to export my old files and hear them for one more time.  Also want to get Rebirth running again so I can use/write/read my old Rebirth songs.  Really miss using this old software! 
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: reject on November 01, 2016, 08:37:48 AM
Used Cubase back in the 90s and just came across all my old files.  I want to export my old files and hear them for one more time.  Also want to get Rebirth running again so I can use/write/read my old Rebirth songs.  Really miss using this old software! 

That's awesome! What kind of setup will you be running it on?

OS 9 is my favorite Mac OS. I've been faithfully running it on my PowerBook G3 (Pismo) ever since.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: idiotoflinux on November 02, 2016, 12:19:55 AM
Hi, i am Jeroen, got into Apple from my time at school in the dutch town of Zeist (where apples where used a lot.

got myself a PowerMac G4 with os9

sent from my MBP
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: auto35404 on November 02, 2016, 10:14:21 PM
Hi Everybody!  Just wanted to thank you for all of the work done to create this resource for everybody!  I'm just looking to setup an OS9 DAW so I can use some old Korg and other synth cards in a QS G4 I bought for $50.

Thanks again!
 :)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: hydrophonic on November 04, 2016, 01:42:01 PM
 Hello everybody! Feel so lucky to have found this forum. I purchased my first Mac 120 8K the month that they were released. I have two Power Mac G4's that are the nerve center of my ProTools recording studio running OS9.1 and PT5.1.3.(http://)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Weedy Weed Smoker on November 07, 2016, 08:53:46 PM
Hello and thanks for approving me to this community, I've been a fellow Mac user since System 6 !

I'm now a graphic designer, and my first crush at computer graphics was the awesome black and white pixels photos from the hidden question mark option in Kid Pix...

Thanks for having me here !   ;)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: suburbGira on November 09, 2016, 09:09:07 AM
hi i signed up to see the downloads. also, can mac os 9 be run on VBox?
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Knezzen on November 09, 2016, 09:17:21 AM
also, can mac os 9 be run on VBox?

Short answer: No.
Long answer: You could run it emulated in Sheepshaver (use Google to find it).
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: suburbGira on November 09, 2016, 09:25:31 AM
also, can mac os 9 be run on VBox?

Short answer: No.
Long answer: You could run it emulated in Sheepshaver (use Google to find it).

Tried sheepshaver before, didn't work. (didnt have a linux package and couldnt be bothered running like 99999999 commands)
did i mention i use linux?
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Knezzen on November 09, 2016, 09:35:55 AM
Sheepshaver is pretty much what you can use on Linux. I use Linux too, but not for my Mac OS 9 stuff, I have old Macs for that. Depending on your Linux distro there should be binarys allready compiled and how-to's awailable.

If you can't be bothered hacking away in the terminal, then the only thing I can recommend is trying to source a Mac OS 9 compatible G4 Mac somewhere.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: wankelmonkay on November 12, 2016, 02:55:49 PM
Hello, introducing myself, I'm an IT guy who has always had a thing for electronic music and old macs. Trying to bring some of the passion to life, got a Gismo, B+W G3 tower, and and SE/30 and PowerBook 190.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: djs2500 on November 14, 2016, 08:25:21 AM
Hey new user here to the forums, although long time Mac user. Currently in the stead are:
iMac 2013 21’ 16GB with 240 SSD
MacBook Air 13’ 4GB and 128SSD
Macbook Early 2006 Core Duo, 2GB and 120 SSD new battery and runs SL great
PowerMac G5 2.0GHZ Late 2005 with Matching Monitor
PowerMac G5 1.8GHZ with Studio Display
Mac Mini 2007 with 4GB and 128 SSD 20’ Apple Alum display
Mac Mini G4 1st gen
iMac 21’ Late 2006 with 1TB HD and 4GB
2x B&W G3 PowerMacs
PowerMac G4 MDD with a bad power supply (Looking for one)
PowerMac G4 Quick Silver loaded
iBook G3 x 2 600mhz and 800mhz both loaded
iMac G5 17’ 1ST gen that is in need of repairs. 
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Stash on November 19, 2016, 05:11:13 PM
Hi.. new to the forum.

Have an old iMac G4 (the flexible head one) as well as a really old classic.
In the process of restoring the iMac back so i can open a number of music files i composed on, so i can eventually update them and move them into Logic Pro.

Love Macs since 1988.

John
Title: Salutations!
Post by: Pimpadeus on November 24, 2016, 01:01:20 AM
Greetings and good evening to all!

My name is PIMPADEUS and I am a new member.

I operate a Pro Tools Mix+ rig at my studio in Louisiana.

I am a retired "pyro-technical" guitarist and a current railroad employee.

Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to interact with this community
of skilled, helpful individuals!

Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: LDstudios on November 30, 2016, 06:36:12 PM


Hello everyone!

I am deeply intrigued by old music tech. I would really love to piece together an old Classic Mac based Protools 1 rig or something like that... but for now (literally today), I am content with a G4 MDD running OS9 and a bunch of Ensoniq Paris hardware that was given to me. Great DAW! Getting OS9 onto a MDD G4 on the other hand? Not so straight forward. Haha.

Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on December 01, 2016, 07:14:58 AM


 Getting OS9 onto a MDD G4 on the other hand? Not so straight forward.

There are many resources here to MAKE it straight forward and relatively easy to put OS9 on a G4!! Have a look around and welcome! ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: os9os9os9 on December 02, 2016, 06:11:54 PM
HI !  Glad to have found your site.  I own a PB520 currently running os 7.1.1 and a Performa 630 upgraded to 6200 running os 9.0.4

always looking for ways to maintain them and to network with newer macs.

Looking forward to learning some new things
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: PedroTheCat on December 05, 2016, 11:14:56 AM
Hello everybody,

Not a very long time mac user like most people here are.

Played a bit on a Macintosh Classic II ages ago as a kid (Shufflepuck Café on a floppy disk was lots of fun) and have quite some experience with OS X, (used all versions from 10.4 until 10.11 on a hackintosh).

Recently decided to get a Power Mac G4 MDD to try OS9 and see how the classic Mac OS is, and it's pretty awesome. There's just something about it, even though it definitely has its quirks.


Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: timmay23 on December 05, 2016, 01:42:13 PM
Hi All,

Timmy here. I grew up with a Macintosh IIcx as my first personal computer, so I am very nostalgic about the Mac OS System 7-OS9. I use a Power Mac (cheesegrater) with El Capitan right now to do all my music, but I have been playing around with Sheepshaver and just bought a G4 cube off eBay. I would love to start experimenting with music creation in OS9. Thank you all for this excellent community and site.
Cheers!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: UniSIMM on December 06, 2016, 01:48:23 AM
Hi everyone. Why I'm here:

I recently acquired a G4 (digital audio) and three cinema hd studio displays (with the old proprietary connectors). The G4 also included an ultrawide PCI card and one appropriate 34 GB hard drive and a working Zip 100 drive (but the CD-ROM drive is dead). And in researching what exactly I can do with all this, I ended up here. The focus is audio/midi production, so this must be the place!

My background in playing/composing music starts around 1978 (prior to that, my big kickstarters were hearing Switched On Bach and Frankenstein by the Edgar Winter Group; I was never the same after that). I shudder to this day when I think about the gear I had back then and through the 80's (MiniMoog, MicroMoog, ARP Solina, Yamaha SS30 string machine, EML 101, PolyMoog, Yamaha CP70, Oberheim OB-1, and on and on and on). I also had the privilege of working with some of the classics like the CS80, Jupiter 8, Emulator II, OBX-A and on and on.

I eventually constructed my own little studio based around a II FX (with some nice Nubus cards) which then became a Quadra 950 and then a Beige G3 and finally a G4 Quicksilver. At some point I had attached a couple of ADATs and an Opcode Studio 5lx and somehow got that all working (in the Quadra 950 I also had a Digidesign Audiomedia card and a Tascam DAT which was so cool back then).

I didn't have a lot of hardware synths at that time, but I got by with a Roland D550, an Ensoniq ASR-10, a Korg T1 and O5rw and a DX7. My MIDI sequencer at that time was Cubase VST but I had begun using Studio Vision just before that all fell apart. I was intimately familiar with the trials and tribulations of getting all that stuff to work consistently.

Then life intervened and I left that all behind. But a few years ago, life having settled down, I started again and built a studio based around an iMac (2011, 27") and four MOTU interfaces (one 828x and three 8pre's giving me 32 inputs). Logic was the DAW (I still hate that term) I settled on. The synths I acquired were two DW8000's, Alesis QS6.1, EMU5000 and 6400 samplers, Yamaha A4000 sampler, Roland XV5080, EMU Audity 2000, Yamaha SG1, Korg Poly61, M-Audio Venom, GEM S2R, Korg M3, Radias, Korg R3 and a Roland Vsynth XT. And a lot of software.

I also added an old PC for running old Windows utilities and virtual synths, all integrated into the main system.

And now I have my G4/OS9/OSX adventure ahead of me. Somehow I think this completes everything. The best of all worlds. And I look forward to learning what has transpired since those days of wild abandon and multiple reboots and extension management :-) And it looks like there are lots of software resources available as well. Looking forward to revisiting some of that.

I'm looking to integrate an Opcode Studio 5lx into this if I can find one and figure out how to get the serial ports hooked into my G4. I have some options to try, having acquired some Keyspan 4-port serial cards and serial to USB adapter. If anyone has experience doing this, I'd love to hear about any successes or failures. And is it even possible to hook up three Studio Displays to the G4 using three video cards? I would still need to find two more if it is possible.

And thanks to the people behind this site for bringing it into existence and keeping it there!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: rukkus on December 06, 2016, 10:20:39 AM
Hi all,

I´m new here, i´m from Chile (southamerica) from 2002 that i cannot use os9 and yesterday a powerbook g4 1ghz titanium reached my hands, so I´m trying to bring to life again the Ti G4 installing OS9.2 (the G4 had installed 10.5 but i cannot used this laptop with OSX, only with OS9).

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Post by: scottkrk on December 09, 2016, 11:08:28 PM
Hi from Australia
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Post by: dom5869 on December 16, 2016, 01:19:09 PM
hello,
a long time mac user (since 1990) from France, i'm trying to make music with an Imac G4 700.
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Post by: Edin on December 20, 2016, 12:45:49 PM
A big hello from Germany to everyone who's interested. Let me shortly introduce myself, what I did or am doing, respectively, why I am here and what I expect.
I am fighting with my mac mini's internal DVD drive for years now. Actually mac's CD or DVD devices are absolutely annoying as they always were and are so balky and refuse about 20 % of my volumes. Every mac I had over the past 20 years. After one specific update some months ago no DVD or volume with video is being accepted anymore. Right, I scraped together 35 EURO and purchased an external DVD device I immediately fell in love with. It is so smooth and obliging, simply accepts every CDDVD+--+readwrite ...
Now the point:
I took my old backups from the late 90s / early 00s and found out that they all were not yet backed up to my main backups on external drives. Lucky I am almost all volumes could be read and transformed. But for many files being personally important for me there is no application to open or convert. Especially some music projects (Cubase VST, Peak, SonicX) seem to be far out of access.
I got a hint that maybe I could get some hints here, and that's why I am here.
The main iMac I was using are still available, but not it's graphic card, it's audio card, it's ... don't know, everything got broken over the years. Now I am running SheepShaver with Mac OS9 on latest ElCapitan on a mac mini. The most important projects concern Cubase. I'm using Logic for years now and as far as I understood open old projects is easy possible. Cubase seems to be much more complicate. Certainly, I could open all the audio files and rearrange them, it would take much time, maybe it was worth it. But I like to reuse all the midi files also.
And here is my request (rather a dream): A CubaseToLogicWizard converting all projects into Logic no matter what version they are created. I forgot to mention: Certainly with only one click for each project   :P
Folks: Please make this Wizard available to me and I do not bother you again, just say thanks and goodbye  ;)
Otherwise: Any idea?
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Post by: GaryN on December 20, 2016, 03:42:05 PM
And here is my request (rather a dream): A CubaseToLogicWizard converting all projects into Logic no matter what version they are created. I forgot to mention: Certainly with only one click for each project   :P

Yes indeed it is a dream! This issue is shared by every single artist who uses a computer to produce their art. Any project produced in a specific app will require much effort to "transfer" to a different app years later. There is only one real solution: Archive the hardware and software that is used to produce the product along with the product.

Major record companies have spent huge amounts of money dealing with this exact same issue. Imagine going back to remix a project recorded on an early Sony or Mitsubishi digital multitrack… One has no choice at all but to access a working model of that machine.

This is one of the main reasons that ProTools has managed to maintain its leading position in the music production universe for so many years. One knows that the latest version will most likely open and import the oldest project one has with little or no fuss.

What you are realizing now is that you should have archived your projects in the most universal formats available then. Standard MIDI files, AIFF or WAVE files and a bunch of text explaining / reminding you how everything went together then would go a long way now.

If the old stuff is indeed that important to you, you'll find the means to re-acquire whatever "obsolete" hardware you now lack and the software to run on it to revisit the project and / or export it into a format you can bring into Logic or whatever DAW de jour you're using. Fortunately, it's not yet too late and all of it is actually still find-able.
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Post by: Courbs on December 20, 2016, 04:30:00 PM
Hello everyone,

I currently own a G4 Cube and recently inherited a graphite dual CPU G4 PowerMac. I have always wanted a DAW setup and always found the ones from my youth (in school) far easier to use than the big stuff put out today. I'm also a big fan of creative constraints in my writing and I want to bring this to my music writing as well.

Aside from that, I adore the system sounds in OS 9 and love the snappy attitude the OS has. I so desperately wish there was something comparable and modern - there are linux OSes written in assembly language which are very fast - but the software selection and charm leaves much to be desired!

So! Thank you all. I know this place will be a trove of nostalgia, geekdom and information on an operating system that holds a special place in our hearts! It's great to be here!

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Post by: Edin on December 21, 2016, 11:36:07 AM
Hi Gary, Thanks for your comments.

There is only one real solution: Archive the hardware and software that is used to produce the product along with the product.

Yes, I am heeding this advise the recent years, but for that special purpose it is about 20 years too late.

If the old stuff is indeed that important to you, you'll find the means to re-acquire whatever "obsolete" hardware you now lack and the software to run on it to revisit the project and / or export it into a format you can bring into Logic or whatever DAW de jour you're using. Fortunately, it's not yet too late and all of it is actually still find-able.

I absolutely agree to your approach. But, it is just my hobby. I am already spending a reasonable part of my money (when released by my wife) into gear and stuff. But I do not like to purchase an entire software just for converting. This is my view today, maybe this will change. If I knew somebody with Cubase in my neighbourhood or had a friend, I would ask them for conversation. If somebody did it for me as a service, I would probably be ready to pay for it. But my first approach was to ask this forum for any ideas.

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Post by: pdemaret on December 22, 2016, 07:43:00 AM
Hi,

Let me introduce myself in a few words. Having been in close contact with macs since the advent of system 6, I have a few old computers - almost dead- that I want to revive.
I have no hope for my Mac+ or for the Grey G3s, but still have one MDD G4 able to run OS9, at least it is the last model that could run it. As soon at it is OK, I will change the wind turbines this computer uses as coolers ;-).

I am very happy to join a community of macos 9 enthousisasts.

Patrick.
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Post by: it0uchpods on December 22, 2016, 12:56:18 PM
Hi,
I'm Josh and I'm a computing enthusiast. I have always had older PCs from 1997-2005 lying around, but recently I got into older Macs, when I received my first PPC machine, a 2005 Mac mini G4. I purchased a 2001 Titanium PowerBook G4 (which has the nicest keyboard I've seen on a laptop in a long time!), and have been using that as my main laptop for a little while now, since my 2009 Black MacBook is out of service at the moment. In fact, I'm posting this from OS 9.2.2 with Classilla 9.3.3 right now!

Mac OS 9 is a very nice OS, and I've really enjoyed using it as a work machine, for creating documents, spreadsheats, and presentations with Office 2001, and even browsing the web, or reading email, still works acceptably well. I'm glad to be a part of this community!
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Post by: WolfpackN64 on December 23, 2016, 01:13:26 AM
Hello everyone

I proudly own a Quicksilver G4 (733 MHz) I've used since my early childhood (it was my grandfathers computer, but he recently gifted it to me). Furthermore, I own two G3 iMac's (one Indigo and one Ruby) and a G4 Mac Mini.

Mac OS 9 was basically my first OS and I have many fond memories of it. We upgraded most of our Mac's we had to Mac OS X when it came out and I have many fond memories of it too. However, I feel Apple is doing everything in their to make me regret having stuck with them for so long. I feel Apple's direction has made Mac more fashion statement items then really useful computers and they went in an arm's race with Microsoft to make their platforms more of a "Connected Computer" then a "Personal Computer".

This has started a slow transition towards Linux for me, but I recently looked back at OS 9. I was happy to find this community still dedicated to it. I know not everyone will have such a negative outlook at the new MacOS as I have, but it's a reason for me to love the classics. Furthermore I follow the Amiga scene since I also find it to be an interesting platform.

The Quicksilver btw ran MacOS X for over a decade, but since recently and thanks to this community, it's back to basics and it's running 9.2.2 again.

I hope to see this Classic platform survive, and maybe move forward a little :)

Casper
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Post by: mrhappy on December 23, 2016, 12:14:32 PM

it was my grandfathers computer, but he recently gifted it to me

For some reason that struck me as very funny and makes me feel ...ah... 'Vintage'!! Haha!

Welcome new peeps! ;D ;D
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Post by: WolfpackN64 on December 23, 2016, 03:44:07 PM
For some reason that struck me as very funny and makes me feel ...ah... 'Vintage'!! Haha!

Welcome new peeps! ;D ;D
Thanks!

To make you feel less vintage, my grandfather's job was in the press sector, so he had to (and did) keep up with the latest technology. He was already over 60 years old when he got it (he's still rocking a Core Duo iMac as his current PC).
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Post by: Vanmax22 on December 26, 2016, 10:15:04 PM
Hi I'm Vanmax22. I got here by googling OS 9 programs. I like old computer software, and music production.
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Post by: ccc on December 30, 2016, 10:21:05 PM
hello!
nice to meet you.
I own PowerBook G3 (Pismo).
I was order new lcd display.
please take care for "Vinegar Syndrome"!!!

thank you ;)



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Post by: mu:zines on January 03, 2017, 04:08:36 PM
Hey guys,

Discovered this nice resource in my referral logs for my site, as there are a few links to me from here. :)

I also have an interest in archive music/computer tech, and I run www.muzines.co.uk where we are archiving and re-publishing music tech magazines such as Sound On Sound, Music Technology and Electronics & Music Maker - lots of retro computing stuff, synths, samplers, recording gear and so on.

Fun to look around here, and maybe find some stuff to run in my MacOS9 emulator!  8)
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Post by: IIO on January 03, 2017, 06:46:27 PM
"... win an oscar... different methods of triggering modular sequencers from click-tracks on tape..."

fun stuff... welcome muzines!
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Post by: Stephencl on January 05, 2017, 09:18:40 PM
Hey folks,

I am a newbie here... I use my mac's for music production work.  My first mac was a classic, that still runs my first copy of Performer purchased in 1990. I still have it and keep it in a case.  I use three additional macs today for my music work,  A Quadra 840av running 7.6, a Powerbook G3 running 9.3 and a Mac Pro Quad processor running Leopard.

I am trying to get some older Opcode editors working for a newly acquired tx816 yamaha synth module..

thanks for inviting me to the party..

Stephen
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Post by: elio on January 08, 2017, 11:55:27 AM
Hello,

first of all, I wish you an excellent new year!

Then, I must confess that I found myself here, while hopelessly looking for some old
software for sound processing. I believe it to be stored in the secret vaults of this site.

I’ve been involved with music for a very long time, in conventional and less conventional ways; I’ve alway been fascinated by sounds and noises and by the ways to organise them.
In the conventional side, I’m a guitarist and I truly love the instrument.
On the other hand, I started to manipulate sound sources: microphones feedback,
radios, tape recorders long ago.
Before buying my first computer I was mainly working with Revoxes.
Then, in 2001, I’ve got an iBook G3/600mHz: it marked the beginning of a new and very intense period of work in soundesign.
I still have the iBook, perfectly working but, infortunately, I’ve lost some important software;
among other, the amazing Sonicworks Bundle, from Prosoniq.
I think I still miss it.

Thanks


P.s. I’m on Soundcloud under the pseudo of Eliosandros; but it’s been ages since I last  updated.
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Post by: IIO on January 08, 2017, 12:24:38 PM
sonicworx is freeware since 2005, but i think it requires a G4 processor.
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Post by: GaryN on January 08, 2017, 04:08:31 PM
But in case you didn't find it, it's here:

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,856.msg3020.html#msg3020
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Post by: corchea on January 10, 2017, 04:21:08 AM
Hi guys

My name is Jesus..(not kidding, please).... I work in Spain teaching music technology.  I begun in this fascinating world with a machine Macintosh ED (512 kb. RAM, no HD) in 1987.  After some issues with the Apple policies and after passed out by Performa 630, G3 and G4, I changed to Windows and Linux in 1999. It is now when I try to recover my old G4 with all that old amazing apps. Any advice or help will be welcome.
Greetings from Spain.
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Post by: Bcoder on January 12, 2017, 11:18:07 AM
Hello from Boston!
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Post by: Miro Le Ravi on January 12, 2017, 04:20:45 PM
hello 
i founded this topic interesting   and it made think about it too  about myself  why i am  so connected after all these years  to  my studio  vintage like  that and even  in  the tools vinyl's guitars amp etc etc 
  i am  very  sensible  about the history  of tools   i used  and how they have  a relation  and inspiration  with  me since these all years
i began  working  on  an apple 2  europlus  when i was 14 
  i was already interested  about  the  fact to  use  a micro computer for going  on transpac  playing games ( lode runner etc  )
and a friend of mine  showed me  some robotics applications and we passé a lot of time programming  for making moves  ;:) 
anyway 
a few years later   i had a classic mac 
then  a performa  etc 
when  arrived after  years of studio  with  an akai  tape  24 tracks  and an atari 
i began to made my first studio  to do demo  for others and my own first album 
that has bee released  in sonycolumbia in 2000   and made me come a little bit famous in france

 at this time  i had a g3  and installed the THREE MOTU Interface   then came in 2002  the g4
the studio  has come bigger  and bigger 
but  i ve been so used to work on it  and it was so fluent  for recording and doing music
that  i didn't want to change
the people who works with  me 
comes for the pleasure to play on my vintage keyboards and amp 
personnaly  i prefered to stay on the mac os 9  because  i feel that i am  in comfortable  space of work  i  can easily  find what i want and it doesn't seem to have a police inside the computer 
mac oX  seems to work  only with internet and makes obsolete everything 
since that day i am  still working with the g4 
the same motu midi time piece av  the three  motu  1224 audio interface 
all the materiel  in the studio  ( ensoniq ,oberheim moog ,etc etc  are on  since 20 years  )

i didn't want to change system  because i see what  it s new  and the workflow is  clearly more musical  and simple to do some music  and not  masturbate  our head  in front of nice  plugs that try to  looks like  real buttons  of hardware   stuff :) 
i m not nostalgic 
i even realized that we do stuff today that  improves  the bit cal  of audio system  and the  old 2.72  sounds better and is more stable  than any  new dp  with this all  new features 
it s a fact  i wok  every day on the studio  with it  .. all the rest cam business

HONESTLY GUYS WHY CHANGES SOMETHING THAT HELPS TO MAKE YOUR WORK  AND STILL TODAY I VE NOT FINISHED TO  IMPROVES MY WAY OF WORKING  AND  IT  S LIKE  ANOTHER FINGER OF MY HAND 
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Post by: DieHard on January 12, 2017, 05:11:36 PM
Very Awesome pics, Thank you :)
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Post by: burgu on January 12, 2017, 05:46:49 PM
Hi,

I'm new to the mac world. I've always had windows computers. But some day I saw a screenshot of Mac os 9 and loved it instantly. So first I found a Powerbook G3 (Lombard I think) and now I have an iMac G4. I use it to write, to learn programming (mainly with MCL for the moment) and to compose midi music.
This is a great forum.
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Post by: Simplemac on January 12, 2017, 06:15:55 PM
hey all y'all, in my search for the old , rare , and priceless i ended up here , and it is pretty cool !!!
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Post by: nickbirkby on January 14, 2017, 10:25:32 AM
Miro, nice pics, thanks!
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Post by: aldebaran on January 29, 2017, 05:20:03 PM
Hello everyone, I'm a very new member here but not new to Macs and OS9. I've used the Apple II back in 1984 and graduated to a IIci in 1992 when I started college. Over the years I've owned a Quadra 800, upgraded to a 8100/80, 9600, B&W G3 Yosemite, Powerbook G4 Titanium, PowerMac G4 Yikes, G4 Digital Audio, MDD G4 dual 1GHz, Core Duo iMac and finally a recent MacMini Iris Graphics.

In recent years I find myself moving away from Macs and dabbled in Linux and Windows as it is better suited to what I do now.

I still own the PowerPC 9600 with 1GB or RAM with the original 604e Mach 350MHz CPU, B&W G3 Yosemite with a G4 upgrade, Dual G4 Digital Audio and my 2001 Titanium Powerbook G4 "Mercury" 500MHz. All of which I couldn't part with due to nostalgic reasons.

I have OS9 installed on all but the G4 DA and have all of them put in storage for almost 10 years.

Recently I decided to revive the Powerbook Ti with a SSD drive, a new battery and a fresh install of OS9, but realized I had removed the faulty DVDROM drive from the laptop. So I went online looking for solutions to install OS9 and the searches somehow led me here.

I did manage to install OS 9 through a firewire SD card reader a few days ago. Now I'm reinstalling all the software and games that I had played when I was a young adult back in 1992-98 ish and enjoying this trip down memory lane.
I've installed Myst and Descent 3! I even found a bunch of old Multimedia CDROM titles like "From Alice To Ocean" and "Oceans Below" to play around with.

OS9 is blazing fast on this ancient powerbook G4. The latest OSX isn't even that responsive on my current Quad core i5 MacMini (Iris) and 16GB RAM!
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Post by: jp48 on February 06, 2017, 06:32:26 AM
Hi,

Short intro:

Didn't have own Mac when younger, so wanting to do some music with OS 9, two machines, G3 Mini and G3 iBook, either goes to pure 9. Preparing for a gig (03/17), hoping to do that with OS 9 :)

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Post by: jp48 on February 06, 2017, 07:43:20 AM
Problems with downloading, adrive is hanging and never goes anywhere (with password)
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Post by: jp48 on February 06, 2017, 11:01:12 AM
... and works now !
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Post by: overbay on February 07, 2017, 02:25:09 AM
Hello, my name is Nicolas and I'm from Athens/Greece.
My first computer was a Macintosh LC (with Performer).
For my OS 9 system I'm using a Powerbook Titanium (using Cubase mostly).
I'm really into music hardware as well...
Thank you for all the info/resources/support. Excellent work people!

I have uploaded some of my music on Soundcloud, so feel free to have a listen if you like:

https://soundcloud.com/overbay

https://soundcloud.com/semivision

Cheers
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Post by: mrhappy on February 07, 2017, 06:30:53 AM

Thank you for all the info/resources/support. Excellent work people!


Yes there's a LOT of great stuff around here to cure 'The Winter Blues'!! ;D ;D

Welcome aboard!
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Post by: Canned Brain on February 07, 2017, 08:08:25 AM
Good evening Ladies and Gentlemen,

I'm new to this forum and would like to introduce myself.

My name is Joe, I'm a 1990 vintage German citizen who grew up in Hungary and lives in Vienna, Austria now. I'm attending University. In my spare time, I like to do creative writing, I make appearances as a solo entertainer, magician, and ventriloquist, I do astronomical observations, and of course I'm collecting vintage Macs.

It were my parents who made first steps in the world of computers. That was with a 486 IBM PC with Windows 3.1 back in 1994. This computer was our working iron right until 2003.

The first time I saw a Mac consciously was in 2005. It was a Power Macintosh (don't remember which one) with OS 9 at my Middle School for Arts down in Hungary. Quite funny, because, albeit the OS was in Hungarian, it lacked support of its Hungarian keyboards. (The same applies for my current OS 8.6 machine; it has no option to set keyboard layout to Hungarian, nor does it correctly display the Hungarian diacrit letters in Word 2001 -- maybe anyone can help me out with that?)

I quickly began saving my money, and in September 2007 I bought our family our first Mac: The 1st-Gen Aluminum iMac Intel 20". It cost me € 1,124.40. My parents use it until today, and it has never undergone repair.

Sooner or later, I felt missing the beautiful UI of the Classic OS.

The sorryness was over in 2008. I got an untested Power Macintosh 9600 for free from a local Mac negotiator in Vienna, Austria. I loved it from the first moment. I've been looking for a compatible Apple display (i. e. a 1710AV), with no success (again: anyone who can help maybe? Thank-you!).

I hope I'm in the right place in this forum, albeit my Mac's OS is 8.6, not 9.

What I'm proud of is the fact that I successfully installed a USB card in the 9600. However, some month ago, optical and floppy drive made their last breath. I will try to let it get fixed in our town's only Mac service partner in the coming days.

My favourite Classic apps are Office 2001, Adobe InDesign 1.5.2, and The Secret of Monkey Island.

Let me get my first question set up.

From 2006 through 2015, I'd been working as a newspaper editor. I had good relations to several guest authors. One, an older gentleman, was so diligent that I'd like to say a small thank-you to him by giving him an iMac G3 with Mac OS 9.

Can you give me any recommendations which model to choose and which not? It shall be all-German (OS and keyboard), and work flawlessly (he's a senior so he shouldn't be hassled by error messages during startup). To get to the point, I need a vintage office for him:
an iMac G3, complete with keyboard and mouse and
a compatible printer with classic support. Of course it must have its install files on CD or download, since the iMac lacks floppy support. Furthermore, it should do its services user-friendlily, and print for a couple of years without running expenses that culminate to infinite. (I remember my parents' computer's printer, a HP DeskJet 560C, that had cartridges being similarly expensive as a tankful gas for a Bentley Bentayga.)

Thank-you so much in advance for your help. I hope so much I will find a likeable place of like-minded here!
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Post by: devils_advisor on February 07, 2017, 02:48:26 PM
i would try a laserjet, even apple had some. advantage fully compatible and drivers are a part of the os. a laserjet can crank several 1000 pages with one toner a inkjet wont. so unless you need color i would check for one of the lasers
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Post by: Canned Brain on February 07, 2017, 05:55:06 PM
i would try a laserjet, even apple had some. advantage fully compatible and drivers are a part of the os. a laserjet can crank several 1000 pages with one toner a inkjet wont. so unless you need color i would check for one of the lasers

Thank-you very much for this advise, however, I looked up already for an Apple printer, and such are simply not available in Europe. Even eBay has none. All I could do is order from the US of A, but how should I use one of them with a European power supply?

I also believe Apple laser printers have the downside of being extremely heavy, making them almost unaffordable to ship (the office should be a present and therefore sent by post).
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Post by: nhoffman on February 09, 2017, 02:55:17 PM
Was running Sheepshaver on my macbook and it kept locking up.  I had a G3 in the basement with a xcelr8 g4 processor running osx 10.4 i thought why screw around with a virtual machine when I run os9 on real hardware.  Long story short it stopped working and a new motherboard didn't fix it.  Ordered another board with a cpu and it turns out that both the old cpu and motherboard where bad.  So I started using 0s9 on my old Blue and White G3 but was not happy with the performance.  Found a good deal on a Quicksilver with a studio display on Craigslist and just got os9 running on it and it runs great.  Its been a long time since i ran it (8-10 years) so i am just now relearning how to do things with it.   
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Post by: kharm on February 13, 2017, 12:33:01 PM
Hi everyone from another new member!

I've been keeping a little home studio DAW going using OS9 on a G3 'Indigo' iMac for over a decade now. What a great resource this site appears to be. It's so heartening to find that others are persisting with 'classic' systems, unable to accept that just because of the rate of change of technology we should fork out large sums of money on new gear just for the privilege of throwing away old gear that still functions so well.

I've observed for a while now that newer technology can often do more - but many times it's not actually 'better'.

Long live MacOS 9!

Kharm.
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Post by: ams099 on February 13, 2017, 01:18:53 PM
Hello,

My first PPC Mac was a PowerBook 1400-which I bought in 1998 and used until 2004.

Now I use a iMac G5 and Power Mac to run Logic.
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Post by: Hjalti on February 19, 2017, 11:55:47 AM
Hi guys. Really appreciate the effort! Got an old G3 of my dad's. And hopefully will be able to incorporate it into my little studio since I want my workstation to be offline and preferably from another age. :D
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Post by: SlantedFloors on February 20, 2017, 02:52:54 PM
Hello everyone. I've been a Cubase user since the Atari days (and still use it on Atari to this day). I'm also interested in other DAW software and hardware and it seems like this community has a wealth of information. I have used various classic and modern Mac computers over the years but never in the studio.

I hope to be able to contribute regardless.

Cheers everyone :D
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Post by: sosumi on February 26, 2017, 05:34:24 PM
Hi, everyone!

Not an audio guy, unfortunately, but I'm in the process of restoring a G4 iMac to run OS 9 and ran across your awesome community while looking around for resources. Looking forward to digging in, reading through all you guys have collected, and talking with some fellow vintage computer geeks ;)
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Post by: lazlopanaflex on February 27, 2017, 05:17:17 AM
Ey up everyone (yes I'm a northerner)

So, by a quick way of introduction, I stumbled on this forum looking for a way of getting access to some old Cubase files. I've just managed to get OS 9 working on an old G4 (i tried it on a G5 but killed it  :().

So my next job is to get hold of an old cubase (the tracks were laid down in the 90s) and hopefully a driver that will make my Novation impulse work with it from a midi interface point of view - i think that might be a bit unrealistic!

Anyway - cheers for having me onboard!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: djweb on February 27, 2017, 07:02:47 AM
Thanks for confirming my membership here on MacOS9Lives.com

Just a quick introduction of myself:

I'm a hobby musician, starting with guitar lessons when I was around 6 years old.

At the age of 23 (in 1991) a friend of mine showed me around his home studio which at this time was basically an 8-track tape recorder, an Atari 520ST and a bunch of keyboards.
Immediately intrigued by the idea of recording my own music I decided to start building my own studio thus combining my hobbies music, computers, and DJing into one.

Fast forward to 2017: Not only will I turn 49 this year but my studio has meanwhile also developed quite nicely.
Starting with Ataris (520ST, STE4) using Notator and later Logic I soon changed to PCs (Logic Audio) but discovered quite early that REAL studios would of course use Apple machines.
Short Mac/software history: Quadra 700 (SampleCell II), G3 (PT5.x MIX TDM), G4 (PT6.4LE / DIGI001), G5 (PT8LE / DIGI002) and finally Mac Mini i7 (PT10/11/12 / DIGI003).

Although I love my current setup (two Mac Minis i7 running OSX 10.8 and Windows 7) I still miss the old days of OS9 when system crashes were only seen on Windows machines and software would run rock-solid (i.e. Logic Studio and SoundDiver, the BEST software combination to run your studio with).

By accident I was lucky enough to find MacOS9Lives.com and now hope to find soul mates who can understand why someone refuses to move his Korg Legacy Collection from a PowerBook G4 to a Windows 7 machine …

Thanks again …


While writing this I am reminded of a short story:
The friend who showed me around in his studio in 1991 offered me his old drum machine for free as he was not using it any more but the sounds were so 'unnatural' that I turned down his offer and instead bought a Yamaha GM synth (I think it was a TG100) with WAY better drum sounds.  ::)
As you might have guessed, it was a Roland TR-808 he was offering me for free and I guess he is still thankful that I turned down his offer …  ;)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Andydy321 on February 27, 2017, 08:25:32 AM
Greetings from Croatia. I'm looking forward to finding a new use for my old PowerBook G4 so I'll be downloading a DAW and see how it goes. Thank you!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on February 27, 2017, 07:54:36 PM
Excellent! ;D
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Post by: IIO on February 28, 2017, 08:10:53 AM
I am fighting with my mac mini's internal DVD drive for years now.

that´s an interesting hobby.

most people would just get a new one for 3 euros - but i have never looked at it as a feature to spend time with.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: alehan on March 02, 2017, 01:06:49 PM
Hello all,

name is Alessandro and i was lucky to get two old TiBooks from a benefactor, to use with my os 9 Nord Modular editor...

While at it, i figured i'd install all the goodies i used back in the day....this was my first "make music wherever" laptop so it definitely feels interesting to be typing on it / holding one after 15 years or so...
maybe i will use it to make music again? only time will tell :)

Thanks for the community!

A
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: spacej on March 06, 2017, 01:17:54 PM
Hi Everyone,

Like lots of you here, I don't believe in obsolete when it comes to my old faithful G4.

I really love OS9. It's amazing today, almost 20 years later, how the ecosystem still makes the grade despite the obvious short comings. I believe we all can say that the system has aged super fine.

Thank you very much for reviewing my request to join the community and accepting it  ;)
cheers!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: fisherbkoke on March 06, 2017, 06:00:27 PM
Hello, I've been fan of old macs.Have an old ibook g3 clamshell.Would like to learn more about it.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: piexil on March 06, 2017, 07:06:11 PM
Hi guys!
I've always been interested in older apple products and finally got my hands on one!

I got a 700mhz iMac G4 with 384 megs of ram. I also have a powerbook G4 in the mail!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: LillyOmegaWolf on March 06, 2017, 07:17:03 PM
Hi everyone and thanks for letting me join this community.

A word to anyone who is interested in this here Mac fan and unofficial Apple technician.
I’m a 26 year old film maker who is glad to return to the classic Mac OS at last.

I got started in 2000. I was 10, I got a abandoned Mac at primary school up and running with its system 7 (it may have been 7.5, but its too long ago to remember and I wasn’t allowed to take it home with me). It had a few games on it and the interface fascinated me. I wanted one, but 'modern' computers were beyond the family budget in my house. The best I could do with for years was an old 80s machine from my stepdads work running DOS and I didn't really like it, but it was a computer so I tinkered on it, then killed it by accident.
The OS7 Mac I used seemed to be so much faster than any PC I touched in those days, including the in the primary school library PC running bindows 98' (see my 'love' for PC... I started early...)

They had the coloured iMacs running OSX 10.1 and then 10.2 at my intermediate school. Those were awesome. I could have taken one of them home. From there, every film I saw with a Mac in it was a Mac I would have happily have taken and used myself. But it was a dream. I remember all the iMac models and occasional Powermac and Mac laptop that I saw on the big screen (Independence Day and the mighty Mac portable that took out a vastly more advanced alien system anyone?). Those Mac experiences left me wanting one of my own and it took me a long time to get used to the PCs running windows Xp at high school. Mac OSX 10.2 seemed much nicer to my eyes than XP.

2007, near the end of my high school days, I tried to acquire the music departments old dual G4 powermac as it had replaced by an iMac. I was informed that they would be using it as a secondary machine :(

My Mum told me that if I wanted a Mac, I could go out and get a job so I could buy it myself.
So I got a job in one of the local supermarkets and stayed on just long enough to afford some games and my 2008 white MacBook 2.4ghz running 10.5.2

Programming class in the final year of high school became so much more fun for me on a Mac and I had to decide between going to film school or studying computer programming (with my interest in making Mac apps and games).

A year later I attended film school, focusing on editing and writing. I began converting the class from PC to Mac and everyone, even the staff got to know me as the Mac guy (I succeeded in converting almost everyone in my class of 45 film students by the end of the 3 year course and even personally sold Macs to two of them. I was dedicated…). Snow Leopard came out in my first year there and I jumped on it on its first day of release. It blew 10.5 away on both my MacBook and the 2006 17" MBP I had been given, fixed and now owned. As a Mac gamer, I also spent many a day playing UT2004 on my MacBook Pro in theory class with a friend who also had a MacBook Pro.
Also while at university I toyed around with 10.4.11 on my 2006 17" MBP but found Snow leopard preferable as the 'classic' mode on the intel Macs didnt seem to work so I figured Tiger offered me nothing compared to Snow Leopard. I also picked up and held onto the 2g iPhone 1 and I still use it because its a mighty classic (and it now runs features of ios7 too)

I then bought the 2011 17" MacBook Pro as soon as that came out, stuck two 750Gb hard drives in it in Raid to make sure it could handle my editing work and I have loved that Mac right up to this day (it now runs 2x2tb Iron wolf drives and still runs like new).

I enjoyed hearing the stories of those who used to run the hardware and software from last century as thats something Ive long felt I missed out on as I was only a kid back then. Apples earlier years and how their software and hardware have changed over time is something that fascinates me. Ive done a lot of reading into how Mac OS and Final cut Pro have become what they are and the impacts Apples decisions have made. It annoys me to hear that Apple killed off a potential 9.2.4 (probably because of Steve Jobs coming back and pushing OSX super hard, although now that he's sadly not here anymore, anyone think we have a chance of asking Apple really nicely to release that update?)

Despite my interest in the G4 powermac line and OS9, I couldn't justify spending money getting some cool old hardware because of the kind of work I was getting into (and as I was always buying my own gear, I remained poor for a long time). It all revolved around Final Cut Pro 7, and FCP X (once it hit 10.0.3). This meant I could only work on powerful Intel based hardware as the powerPC Macs can’t run Final Cut Pro X. As someone who still works as a DOP, editor and writer the turning point for me as a Apple advocate of their new hardware happened first when they killed off the 17" MacBook Pro.

I lost a lot more faith in Apple’s pro hardware when they brought out the trash can and my 2010 Mac Pro with a Sapphire HD 7970 had more power per graphics card and could run 6 drives internally. When I came to upgrade, I still wanted a Mac I could play around with, hence… Xeon in a hackintosh and a second Sapphire 7970 to match the 2013 Mac Pro. Its annoying when my ‘Mac Pro’ doesnt want to work, but largely feels like a real Mac and looks badass. Unlike apples offering, I have 16.5Tb in this monster without the need for a lot of external drives.

The release of the 2016 MacBook pros prompted me to begin looking for alternatives to my ageing server Mac that is from 2011 and thats when I stumbled upon a dual 1.42ghz G4 on TradeMe (the New Zealand local equivalent to eBay). Despite it being at the end of 2016 and therefore quite a old computer, I snapped it up as it reminded me of the Dual G4 in my high school, then put Tiger and some old Mac OSX games on it. Playing with Tiger made me want to go older and more classic. I was disappointed to find out I couldn’t put OS9 on my dual G4. Still, its now my fileserver for my newer Macs and my hackintosh to utilise and I’ll be installing some Sata drives (as big as I can fit, hopefully 4+Tb) on it and beefing it up as much as I can. I’ll be shooting then editing my third movie this year and it will be my pleasure to hopefully see cool old macs running alongside my hackintosh to get the job done.

Reading online, I found this site. It initially surprised me that you could still do professional audio work (or for that matter, any work at all) in OS9 and that gave me confidence to at last look for a Mac that would run Mac OS9. Sadly, editing in OS9 is defiantly out. I don’t think theres anything system 9 able that will handle 4k+ raw footage from my cinema cameras.

So this year I have at last taken the plunge and I went out hoping I wasn’t too late for me to get started. I found the best iBook G3 clamshell (a mighty 466mhz!) as I’ve wanted its unique design on my desk for a while. It looks so cute and unique! I want to test run the most up to date version of OS9 I can on it. Thanks to the universal installer on this site for 9.2.2, that page made me want to sign up here and thank the die hard OS9 team for such amazing work getting that together. I look forward to running one stable OS9.2.2 for writing and some classic games and one other partition can host a test OS9.x for me to play around and hopefully one day use as my main OS if we can get some kind of OS ‘9.3’ or ‘9.4’ going.

I didn’t stop there and I now also have a G4 466mhz digital audio Mac too and it runs 10.2.8 and 9.2.2 (thanks again to the universal installer on this site for 9.2.2).

Starting up OS9 brought back some serious memories and made me wish I had been lucky enough to get a Mac running it when I was younger as its a truly special OS.
The universal installer that is pinned on these forums got my Radeon 9000 Pro going but I hear there is a newer ATi driver?
I’ll happily take suggestions for what I can use OS9 for as anything I can get my older Macs to do, I’ll happily do on them. Things such as my writing of fan fiction on my G3 iBook clamshell. But aside from PDF viewing of scripts and some old games, I don’t know what else to do with it as of yet.

Its a bit weird going to a mostly greyscale interface with a very simple finder, when I’m used to Sierra on my 8core Xeon hackintosh and Path finder with its all its extras and custom colours, pink finder! :)   
Im sooo used to column view in OSX finder. Is there any way to get that in OS9? Also networking OS9 and a fairly modern OSX?

I look forward to properly learning Mac OS9 and all its features and oddities as despite its similarities to Mac OSX (A finder, the Apple and menu set up top etc) it is different, I can tell It thinks differently and runs a bit differently. First time running OS9 again, I didnt even know how to shut the thing down! (Thats sad considering I use my Macs every day and know the interface and shortcuts so well I could operate any 10.4+ Mac in my sleep…)

And if I'm honest, Im kinda tired of the continual upgrade cycle. It was fun going from Mac to Mac in the Snow Leopard and even Mountain Lion days. Its something that as a editor using FCPX its hard to move away from, especially when mountains of 4k footage in a movie can claim 50+Gb of my ram. But ever since Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion (forget Lion...) Ive not felt like the Mac has really moved forward in a way that suits me as pro user. Theres been more and more for me to turn off or disable with each new version of OSX.
And this is where OS9 and the ideals I see on this site has extra special appeal to me. Its awesome seeing successes can be had 15+ years out of that constant upgrade cycle that most people are caught up in. And even if my main editing rig can't have in on the fun, I would at least like my older Macs to do what they can with optimised OS9 on them.

I got a G5 sitting around which I would love to one day run OS9 on too.
If I can find the time, I wouldnt mind trying some OS9 coding too… 
So yea, I’m here to stay as long as this site keeps going as a lot of what goes on here has me excited.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: IIO on March 06, 2017, 07:28:35 PM
First time running OS9 again, I didnt even know how to shut the thing down

keyboard commands (but you obviously dont use them much in OSX either) are pretty much the same than in OSX.
ott, for a list current open apps, just drag the application menu off the menubar.

the one main thing you have to learn is that in OS9 you can not just force quit your program after a hard chrash and continue your work. most of the time problems will son back to you so you ae better advised to reboot the OS, especially after the usual error #2 and error #3 warnings.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: LillyOmegaWolf on March 06, 2017, 07:42:01 PM
First time running OS9 again, I didnt even know how to shut the thing down

keyboard commands (but you obviously dont use them much in OSX either) are pretty much the same than in OSX.
ott, for a list current open apps, just drag the application menu off the menubar.

the one main thing you have to learn is that in OS9 you can not just force quit your program after a hard chrash and continue your work. most of the time problems will son back to you so you ae better advised to reboot the OS, especially after the usual error #2 and error #3 warnings.

ouch. yes I do use keyboard commands a lot, including sleep and blacking the screen, just not to shut my Mac down... hence, I didn't know as the OS9 shutdown wasn't there when I clicked on the Apple up top.

Good to know about force quit though as I'm yet to strike that.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: JD on March 07, 2017, 10:11:21 AM
This is my first post on this Board which I found when checking on my options for resurrecting my power mac 9600/300mhz PT5.1 PT 24 mix system.  Spent a load on this rig create one album and then it's been sitting in storage for 2 decades--now I just want my old friend back. Connected everything and crossed my fingers and hit the power switch, disks are spinning, LEDs are blinking, but the monitor remains blank.  Looking inside I see that the old trusty 3.6v battery has exploded in the corner of the mother board, getting battery juice in the closest ram slot and all over one of my two memory sticks, and dissolved one POT between the battery and ram slots as well as taking out/corroding the +/- battery terminals down to studs... Iv'e got a new 3.6v battery today, and hope to be able to get out the soldering iron for some surgery tonight to revive this old beast...hopefully i'll be able to get it going.

I have been looking at how far you can take the PT MIX24 system and it seems that maybe PT 10.x is as far as you can go with some craze mix of HW/SW-OS.  Seams that AVID has done everything that it can to make it near impossible for old PT clients and their old systems to exist beyond an iteration or two of its SW versions.  Combine this with the MAC OS versions and MAC Hardware versions, PC Hachintosh Versions, PCI, PCIx, PCIe, SCIS, IDE, ATA, PATA, SATA, SAS, cards and drivers... o my what a crazy adventure this is going to be.... Glad I found this Macos9lives resource and community as it may make this adventure more palatable, less crazy, more doo'able, and hopefully a lot of  fun.  JD.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: coriolis1986 on March 07, 2017, 11:19:00 AM
Hi all!

This is my first post at this forum. I want to use my old Macintoshes (SE/30, iMac G3 and Quicksilver G4) for MIDI-sequencing for my rack synthesizers. So, I hope, this forum will help me with my desire :)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Spacehams on March 08, 2017, 10:31:01 AM
Hello!
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Post by: thewegger on March 11, 2017, 10:24:43 AM
Hi there! Glad to be here, thanks!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: karapata on March 13, 2017, 12:12:04 PM
Hello, Let me introduce my self ( with my broken English)

My Name is Michael and I am soo happy to find this forum. I thought I was the only one in love with System 9. My journey started in 1993 when without any knowledge of Computers buying Machintosh LC 575.  I was going to start a small business and I knew I needed a computer. The same business is continuing today and it is still small !!. With the help of numerous books, slowly I was able to learn Mac OS 9 and Filemaker Pro and MYOB which still use it today. The only update has been update-ting to Filemaker 6. I went trough numerous Imacs over the years and currently using four Power Mac G4's

Somehow, even though I have OS 10 running G5, I was never impressed with it. I am located in Toronto Canada and I am sure I will find this forum very very beneficial. I would like to thank to every one that puts time and effort to this forum  and hope to be able to contribute if and when is necessary.

All the best and thank you again.

Michael



Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Knezzen on March 14, 2017, 07:29:19 AM
I figured out that I never wrote anything about myself in this thread.

Have been using Macs since the late 90's, just as long as I have been making music.
I'm a Pro Tools guy and used to have a huge 24|MIX system in the studio before upgrading to a Pro Tools HD3 system.
The MIX system is still around though and I'm thinking of moving it to a small home studio in my celler for more easy access ;)

Mac OS 9 is very close to my heart, and my daily drivers are a dual 1.67ghz MDD and a 1ghz PowerBook G4 Titanium.

Amongst other things me and a friend host and maintain Macintosh Garden, which you might have heard of and used.


I did write something after all! Allways something ;)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Cleffhyena on March 15, 2017, 03:03:59 PM
Hello! I'm a recording musician from Scotland who rescued a beautiful Indigo G3 from the heap, and I mostly use it for Cubase and The Sims :P OS9 is so great, it's got the usability of a modern mac with the aesthetic of windows 95.  -afro-
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: TheCodeMan on March 15, 2017, 06:20:45 PM
Just joined the forum and looking forward to experimenting with some of the older software.
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Post by: wolfdog94 on March 18, 2017, 06:30:18 PM
Hello! This is my introduction post. I'm not a very active forum poster, but i will try to help where i can. It's really cool to see so much love still for OS9. I used to get a lot of crap for using it well into the 10.5 / 10.6 days, but 99% of my music apps just ran better in it. Onto introductions: I've been making electronic music for 20+ years, always on a mac. There was a ton of amazing sound design software on OS9 that's since become abandonware, but since i purchased a second-hand Ti PowerBook last year, i have access to all of that great software again (thonk, metasynth, soundmaker etc etc) If you're interested in my music, you can listen here: https://www.soundcloud.com/stefan-weise
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Philgood on March 19, 2017, 07:34:21 AM
Hi wolfdog94.
Yes! Great music style.
I'm into all kind of music but have a little vinyl collection of electronic music from my dj adventures in my youth.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: TheDailyBuzzherd on March 20, 2017, 02:53:51 PM
Wuzzup folks in Number 9 Land ... Number 9 ... Number 9 ... Number 9 ...

Me? A native New Englander who started with System 6, 7 wuz da Bomb, 8 up to Leopard ... kid uses Mavericks, I use Classic and Tigger a bit ... a holdout mostly 'cuz I'm too CHEAP to upgrade. Further, my 15 year-old G4 still woiks. Then again, we have a laundry machine set from The '80s, so that oughta say much. No, don't drive a Model T and don't cut the grass with scissors.

Currently at odds with a coupla FireWire externals 'cuz I can't boot 9 from 'em and prolly never will.

I'll shut up now.

 -afro-
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Post by: dom8nine on March 21, 2017, 02:58:13 PM
hello, Macos 9 lives 4 ever !
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Post by: thieson on March 24, 2017, 03:58:39 AM
heya!

finally got an iBook g4 this weekend and successfully installed OS9 on it! so sweet.

greetings
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: usrrnaime on March 25, 2017, 09:58:52 PM
Found a mac mini which was being used as a door stop at a computer shop. The thing booted right up, and i thought about using for software synth wonderment.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: exodus on March 26, 2017, 12:53:55 PM
Hello.  Setting up an OS 9 DAW.  I have two Mac G4 computers. 

Thanks
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: pallinskij on March 27, 2017, 04:53:33 AM
Hi,
a 1800mhz upgraded Quicksilver, a silenced Mdd and a double cpu modded Cube in my DAW.
Since 1997 still in love with Mac OS9.

Greetings from Italy  :)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Quicksilver on March 29, 2017, 09:30:04 AM
Hello

I have a Power Mac G4 (MDD 2003) which I'm configuring as a dual boot system. I'm planning to install final release versions of pro audio/video/design apps for both OS 9 and OS X (PPC) on each partition.

Thanks
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Post by: ReimenSeimen on March 30, 2017, 03:19:21 PM
hello, thanks for adding me to the forum!

My name is Simon and i started recording music in 2000-2001. At that time a mac wasn´t affordable to me, so thats why i started getting interested in the old protools 5 and OS 9. Great site and great community it seems so far ;-)
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Post by: fabiolimasiq on March 31, 2017, 02:56:20 PM
Hi MacOS9Lives !!!!!

I'm macOS9 user since 1999

I'm a Pro Tools TDM guy

You are great !!! it's so nice to be here

Long live MacOS9
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Post by: rokiracune on April 01, 2017, 10:59:50 AM
Hi MacOS9 Lives,

My first mac was a Centris 660AV and I've been hooked ever since.  My OS 9 machine is a B&W "Yosemite" w/G4 processor upgrade. I'm running thOnk_0+2 & Reason 2.5.

I may have some abandonware to share.

Best Wishes!

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Post by: msalmeronc on April 02, 2017, 01:02:41 PM
Hello.
I am a fan os this site, it's just awesome!
I am currently updating my old iMac G3 bindi blue with both Logic 5.5 (yeah I got hold on a White XSkey, was I lucky or what!) and Pro Tools with my old MBox.
I wish to thank all the contributors to this awesome forum!
Keep the great work coming!
Moisés
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: tensionvex on April 10, 2017, 09:20:28 AM
Hello,

I produce electronic music on my Macs.  I was fortunate enough to grow up in an area where all of the schools had Apple computers, so I've used them all my life.  The first computer I ever used was an Apple IIE.  As I got older, the Apples turned into Macintoshs.  I learned how to type on a Macintosh SE.  The first Mac I ever owned was a PowerMac G3.  I actually lost that one at some point unfortunately.  I don't know if it was stolen from me or if I gave it away.  Anyway, I currently own a PowerMac G5 Quad running Tiger and Classic, and a modern MacBook Pro.  I own some old synthesizers that haven't been supported in a decade or more, and the librarian/editor software is almost all OS9 (or earlier).  Yall know how it is.  Anyway, the more I use my G5, the more I want a dedicated OS9 system for the things that don't quite run in Classic.  I've already found a lot of useful information on these forums, and I hope to continue that as I move towards a dedicated OS9 system.  I'm looking at getting one of the upper end G4s to accomplish this, and I see that many of the questions I would have are already answered here. 

Thanks for letting me join.  I am happy that there are others that share the same interests I have.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: claudio on April 10, 2017, 02:31:03 PM
Hi,
I'm a musician (composer and guitarist), and I have worked with mac from Mac Plus using Cubase, DP, Max (from the first opcode version and actual MaxMsp) and many others app and computers. From the nineties... I have follow the changes of mac OS.
I have some G4 computers, some are working, other being repaired. I love much this site where I have met old "friends". The amount of resources I have found here, has encouraged me to put on a OS9 system in my resurrected old G4 machines.
I am grateful to those contribute to this site. At the best!
Claudio
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Clare Burnett on April 11, 2017, 05:25:18 AM
Hi
My name is Clare and I guess I first got to know Apple in 1989 while studing a btec in photography, so Photoshop etc was my introduction.
Beginning with a performa 6200 running System 7.5 in the mid 90's I've been using Apple computers ever since and still have some G4's running OS9. I really liked the G3 iMacs slot loaders and can service or repair them still.
From about 2004 I've been repairing and selling them. While I sell mostly newer models I still get a number of legacy mac's which I sell more as an act of recycling as they often don't fetch much but I think they are worth preserving as they still can work well and OS9 is still a great OS.
Over the years I have built up a collection of OS 9 software both OS and applications and utilities which I am happy to share though it looks like most of it is posted here already. Tough the one installer I was pleased to find here is the 9.2.2 I can use on an 867 MDD.

While I don't specialise in sound/audio I have a customer who wishes his OS9/OSX Studio collection of MDD's and audio cards and associated PCI cards to be offered here before it goes on eBay as it was with your help he set it all up in the first place.
I will list it all in hardware for sale section once I have finished preparing and assesing them, and can ship worldwide  via UPS or Small packet air mail. I am in the UK
So far there is
3 x MDD's  a Dual 1.25 and 867 and a 1.25 Uni also a G4 gig ethernet 400 upgraded with a dual 500 processor + a G3 266 AV mini tower.
PCI cards include a dig design 001 with cables and 2 breakout boxes + pro tools LE 6.4 and 6.7 discs
Sonnet tempo serial ata 2 port card + 300 GB WD velociraptor HDD with cables which I think is OS 9 compatible
A stealth serial port card with installer
4 port serial card keyspan PCI
Yamaha SW1000 and DS2416
M Audio 2416? 2496 will check
+ ava 2903b scsi card, some 2usb cards 2 and 4 port
There is more keyboards etc
The towers will have working or new PRAM batteries and will be cleaned and given a fresh instal of OS9.2.2 and OSX 10.3,4 or 5 where appropriate

Clare
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: DieHard on April 11, 2017, 10:13:36 AM
Wow, Members at 2430... I remember when it was about 8; Mactron and I figured we were imaging old CDs & DVDs for amusement only.

Glad to see you have all arrived :)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on April 11, 2017, 11:20:40 AM

Glad to see you have all arrived :)

 "Re-Build it and they will come"!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Miro Le Ravi on April 11, 2017, 03:49:09 PM
bravo bravo  die hard  :) 
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: MacTron on April 12, 2017, 07:15:23 AM
... I remember when it was about 8; Mactron and I figured we were imaging old CDs & DVDs for amusement only.

 ;D ;D ;D

Imaging and sharing all this stuff was great!

The amount of members and great contributors to this project was - by far - over that I could imagine at that time.  ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: midnight_kite_flight on April 13, 2017, 01:37:26 AM
Hello everybody, how are you all?

I recently (like a week ago) got a 2002 Quicksilver. The guy sold it to me for $60 (Bargain!)

The Quicksilver has OSX installed so this weekend i'm gonna get stuck in and see if I can set up a dual boot or maybe just go full OS9. Let's wait and see!

We had a G3 in my high school way way back and I guess I got all nostalgic for OS9. I used to use these programmes back then, I think they were called Notator Logic and Alchemy. The first was a sequencer and the other was a sampler / sound designer thing. I'm really stretching the memory banks but I think that's what they were called. I was the only person in school who knew how to use them, so I got to do basically whatever I wanted there :D

Anyway, so I'm looking forward to using those again, and starting to use some mod trackers. It's gonna be heaps of fun hanging with you all.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on April 13, 2017, 06:19:26 AM
this weekend i'm gonna get stuck in and see if I can set up a dual boot or maybe just go full OS9.

There are a few different options for OS 9 installs here and also some valuable 'dual boot' tutorials/ advice. Take some time and poke around as OS 9 LIVES!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on April 13, 2017, 06:20:45 AM
... I remember when it was about 8; Mactron and I figured we were imaging old CDs & DVDs for amusement only.

 ;D ;D ;D

Imaging and sharing all this stuff was great!

The amount of members and great contributors to this project was - by far - over that I could imagine at that time.  ;D

Looks like you crazy kids were on to something!!! Haha! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: samumorani24 on April 13, 2017, 09:10:04 AM
Hello everyone from Italy.
I love vintage Apple computers, I like to restore and collect them, here is my collection:

iBook G3 Clamshell Indigo
iBook G4 12 inch 1.33ghz
PowerMac G3 Beige and B&W
PowerMac G4 Graphite (i think it's AGP model, i don't remember...)
iMac G4 1ghz
Apple IIe
Macintosh LC 475, LC 630 (but the power supply is dead :c)
PowerMacintosh 4400/200, 7300/166
PowerBook 1400c
PowerBook G4 1.25ghz
Mac Mini intel early 2009

Have a nice day
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Dystopia on April 20, 2017, 08:22:14 PM
Hi.

Been using Macs since I was a kid. An LC was my first computer, followed by a Power Mac 6100/66. Switched to Windows in about '99 for the games, so I missed the whole OS X thing until I got an iBook G3 around '05. Sadly that suffered the infamous GPU failure. Replaced it with an iBook G4 1.42Ghz. Realised Classic sucked and bought a Power Mac G3 400. Recently went to drag the G3 out and didn't have anywhere to set it up, so I got a TiBook 1Ghz off, which apparently had its DVD smashed up in shipping (which I discovered just in time to have to rip the whole thing apart to get a disc out). It's taken an excessive number of other Macs to work around that issue to get it set up, but I'm getting there.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: coolwater on April 21, 2017, 11:41:57 AM
Hello from California!

I'm an audio engineer and music producer. I'm here because I have a lot of old samplers and want to learn more about interfacing with them like people did at the time. I found this forum through threads about AKAI CDs. Thanks so much to the people in this community!! I'm really impressed by the knowledge and attitudes i've seen on this forum so far.
Title: Members introduction
Post by: ShedSimon on April 21, 2017, 01:12:27 PM
 Hello, really struggled to work out how to post on here. Had to do an RE:
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: AlgaeNymph on April 24, 2017, 06:11:14 PM
Greetings, all.  I'll admit up front that I'm here for the OS9 support: I'm looking for an emulator I can easily use on my Mac so I can finally play Chaos Overlords.  Where can I download one here?
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Bolle on April 26, 2017, 08:15:39 AM
Hi,

I have been reading on here for quite some time and already saw a lot of familiar faces here.
I am collecting Macs of all kind ranging from 68k to G4 machines (too many to list them all here) and figured here is a good place to be for information on the latter.

See you folks around.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Ctg on April 26, 2017, 09:23:49 PM
Hi everyone,

What brought me here was to see if I could bring some life into several G4 PowerPC macs I have lying around. I've always been interested in running Classic games from my youth (I was always a PC person) but unfortunately G3 or earlier machines are either bulky or expensive to come by.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: ponfiero on May 02, 2017, 04:51:03 PM
Hello,

I've been an avid Mac user from 1987 until a few years ago. Recently, I realized I really missed OS 9 and OS X...so here I am.

I'm trying to get an older powerbook up and running.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: garyglitta on May 07, 2017, 04:17:01 AM
Hi there,

I'm an electronics engineer by trade, and one of many hobbies is retro computing. I was born at the beginning of the 80's and so I've experienced computing through the ages - starting with an XT, 286 AT, 386, 486, etc... but my introduction to Apple has been fairly recent. I live in South Africa and simply put, they were not common here at all until fairly recently. My first intro to Apple was an iPod 5th generation and then a string of iPhones and an iPad.

My first mac was an old Mac Pro 1,1 - I bought it cheaply second hand and spent ages and considerable cost upgrading it to dual quadcore 3GHz processors and maxing it out in every way I could - I bought a AMD R9 280x graphics card and spliced the EFI from the ROM from a mac edition 7970 to get the boot screens working. I couldn't believe that all this time I'd been missing out on Macs - I always liked Linux and OSX seemed to me to be much like it but with everything actually working properly.

Anyway - my interest in Macs has brought me to acquire an old PowerBook G4. Sadly, though, it only has 10.4.11 on it with no classic support, so this brings me to the site. I am hoping to install OS9 on it natively if possible and learn about another chapter in the history of pre-intel Macs.

Thanks for listening :)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: devils_advisor on May 07, 2017, 04:37:38 AM
Hi there,

I'n electronics engineer by trade, and one of many hobbies is retro computing. I was born at the beginning of the 80's and so I've experienced computing through the ages - starting with an XT, 286 AT, 386, 486, etc... but my introduction to Apple has been fairly recent. I live in South Africa and simply put, they were not common here at all until fairly recently. My first intro to Apple was an iPod 5th generation and then a string of iPhones and an iPad.

My first mac was an old Mac Pro 1,1 - I bought it cheaply second hand and spent ages and considerable cost upgrading it to dual quadcore 3GHz processors and maxing it out in every way I could - I bought a AMD R9 280x graphics card and spliced the EFI from the ROM from a mac edition 7970 to get the boot screens working. I couldn't believe that all this time I'd been missing out on Macs - I always liked Linux and OSX seemed to me to be much like it but with everything actually working properly.

Anyway - my interest in Macs has brought me to acquire an old PowerBook G4. Sadly, though, it only has 10.4.11 on it with no classic support, so this brings me to the site. I am hoping to install OS9 on it natively if possible and learn about another chapter in the history of pre-intel Macs.

Thanks for listening :)


welcome to the forum, give a little bit of detail about the g4 and we can get you up and running quicly
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: garyglitta on May 07, 2017, 07:28:39 AM
welcome to the forum, give a little bit of detail about the g4 and we can get you up and running quicly

Thank you, great to see that there are folks putting so much work into keeping this platform alive.
I have a 17" PowerBook G4 from 2005 - with the 1.67GHz chip and 1 Gb RAM. I'd be very grateful for any information going that might help me get it up and running.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Lombard on May 10, 2017, 12:50:52 AM
I've been using Apple products since 1999 when I was working in film and video.  On a lark, I recently picked up an old digital camera at my local thrift store, a Polaroid PDC-2000.  This was Polaroid's first attempt at breaking into the digital camera market (launched in 1996).  Here's a link to an image + some information if your curious about it:

http://www.digicammuseum.com/en/cameras/item/pdc-2000 (http://www.digicammuseum.com/en/cameras/item/pdc-2000)

I discovered after my purchase that the Polaroid PDC-2000 required a SCSI connection + OS 9 to run the necessary software and download its digital photographs.  Well, one thing led to another and I ended up buying a 1999 PowerBook G3 (400MHz) Lombard / Bronze Keyboard so I could successfully use the Polaroid PDC-2000.

I've been working on setting up the Lombard over the past week or so and was able to download my first photos from the Polaroid this evening!  Working with this old PowerBook and OS 9 has been a blast!  It really has brought back some memories from that time period in my life.  I'm looking forward to continuing to reacquaint myself with OS 9, using my new to me Polaroid camera, and having fun.  ;)

Naturally, I appreciate the wonderful people and resources here at macos9lives.  macos9lives has been a big help to me.  Thank you!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on May 10, 2017, 07:14:10 AM
That's kind of different than why most people find their way here but very cool!!! ;D
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Post by: MacFiles on May 18, 2017, 02:24:40 PM
Captcha Post #2....
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: NamelessPFG on May 18, 2017, 11:51:44 PM
I've been lurking for a bit, but I might as well make a more formal introduction.

Unlike most people here, I've always been in the IBM PC-compatible world my whole life, DOS and Windows and all that. The only time I touched Macs were in elementary school; the computer labs were full of 'em, roughly around Mac OS 8-era from what I recall and loaded with stuff like the usual Super Solvers games, Kid Pix Studio, SimCity 2000, The Amazon Trail, etc.

Well, some time around... geez, it must've been a decade ago by now, but what I do remember is that some of my neighbors were having a yard sale. I took a look, and this old beige Apple ImageWriter printer caught my eye. Where there are vintage Apple accessories, the matching computers aren't far behind.

I was right, but I didn't realize how right until I saw their massive collection of old Mac software in those classic big boxes and a few old machines - a Macintosh IIcx, a Power Macintosh 6500/250, an indigo iMac G3 350 slot-loader, and a PowerBook G3 (which unfortunately turned out to be the infamous "MainStreet" variant, garbage DSTN passive-matrix LCD and no L2 cache and 32 MB of RAM and all), with their main machines at the time being a small fleet of 14" iBook G4s and a plastic Core 2 Duo MacBook. They'd even tell me about old stuff like HyperCard and how far ahead of its time it was.

To me, this was like a museum of computing, a whole new world to learn, and what better opportunity than dabbling with some of this stuff? I started off with the MainStreet, nice keyboard and all, but the LCD irritated me far more than the lack of CPU cache, so I ordered a Pismo off eBay. Nice little machine for what it was. It was on that Pismo that I did my initial reaping from a certain Garden, so to speak.

Well, the MainStreet went off to relatives in the Philippines I've never met (my mom insisted on it and probably didn't realize how hopelessly obsolete it was), and we held our own garage sale where the Pismo sold. I didn't have any Macs for several years after that, having opted to pursue my gaming PC interests instead.

I did revisit the good neighbors a few months back, though, and talked them into giving me the Power Mac 6500. It was rough to set up, though - no modern interfaces out of the box, CD drive doesn't read CD-RWs, and my only Mac OS 9 installer disc as a holdover from the PowerBooks was 9.2.1, too new for a pre-G3 machine. However, it's a champ for early/mid-1990s games, complete with ADB port for those pre-InputSprocket games that expect to talk to a Thrustmaster FCS/WCS/RCS setup directly. Late 1990s releases hit pretty hard because they want a G3, though, and it shows. Even my Voodoo2 doesn't help much in it due to the CPU bottleneck.

This would not stand. I needed something more powerful, ideally the MDD Power Mac G4. I knew you guys got the FW800 machines to boot OS 9 natively, so I tracked down a 1.42 GHz system on eBay for a price I was willing to pay, planted a bid, and got it - already loaded with 2 GB of RAM, three working hard drives (and a failed fourth drive, ironically the Apple factory option), and two of those drives had Leopard Server and Tiger pre-installed. How convenient!

There were also two extra add-on cards: a SCSI controller (which I have no real use for at the moment, but it's nice to have in case I run into more SCSI stuff outside of the 6500) and a Sonnet Tempo Trio, the latter of which I moved to the 6500 just so it has USB and FireWire for a change. When you've only got two PCI slots to work with, make them count!

After a bit of HDD shuffling, I gave the Unsupported G4 image a shot here. Sure enough, it works like a charm - who says that you can't boot OS 9 on a FW800 MDD now? I just need to get all my OS 9 apps and stuff onto it, and with the 6500 bearing the Tango Trio with FW400 now, I think I can work something out with Target Disk Mode.

So now I'm here, typing up this post on that MDD G4. I still need to do a few more tweaks for this machine to fulfill its purpose of being the one-stop-shop for PowerPC-era Mac gaming - for starters, AGP card with Core Image (was going to use a spare Radeon 9800 Pro 'til I saw how badly it artifacted during POST despite being in storage for years), PCI card with full QD3D RAVE/OpenGL acceleration under OS 9. It might not result in the absolute best OS 9 gaming performance that way, but my outlook is that anything that needs a faster graphics card is going to also run on OS X, and better to boot.

And yes, I did just put the words "Mac" and "gaming" next to each other. It's a subject that gets overlooked due to Apple having historically overpriced and underpowered hardware, alongside most computer games only getting Windows releases. Well, there's a few Mac OS exclusives out there, surprisingly, and some of the ports like X-Wing/TIE Fighter are said to be the best versions overall (in that case, high-res graphics while keeping iMUSE dynamic MIDI music). Someone needs to document all this!

Also, about OS X macOS today... I've also fiddled a bit with Hackintoshing my main desktop (a powerhouse i7-4770K 4.6 GHz/32 GB DDR3-2400/GTX 980 build that serves as my primary computer), and it surprisingly works! Helped me burn some functional OS 9 CDs for my 6500, too - something I wouldn't dare try under Windows.

But El Capitan and Sierra... argh, they don't feel like the Mac OS X I knew at all. Too many questionable iOS-esque design decisions, like fullscreen apps that get treated like a separate virtual desktop and thus don't show up in Expose Mission Control like other windows, a Launchpad where opening the Applications folder in the Finder should've been sufficient, etc. To me, they're OSes I can run for the modern Mac experience, but it just feels pointless when I can do just about everything better in Windows, particularly the purpose for which that system was built. Yeah, go ahead, call me a heretic if you want, that's just my preference.

And that's why I have the 6500 and MDD G4 now - they actually provide something that my fleet of Windows PCs can't, that being compatibility with a long legacy of old Macintosh software. Some might say that SheepShaver is good enough, but for me, it's not even close. Classic Mode is lightyears ahead of SheepShaver, and even that's still not as good as booting OS 9 natively!

Hey, maybe I'll make a DAW out of it eventually if I ever find myself so musically inclined. This forum at least tempts me to try.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: devils_advisor on May 19, 2017, 01:21:30 AM
I've been lurking for a bit, but I might as well make a more formal introduction.

Unlike most people here, I've always been in the IBM PC-compatible world my whole life, DOS and Windows and all that. The only time I touched Macs were in elementary school; the computer labs were full of 'em, roughly around Mac OS 8-era from what I recall and loaded with stuff like the usual Super Solvers games, Kid Pix Studio, SimCity 2000, The Amazon Trail, etc.

Well, some time around... geez, it must've been a decade ago by now, but what I do remember is that some of my neighbors were having a yard sale. I took a look, and this old beige Apple ImageWriter printer caught my eye. Where there are vintage Apple accessories, the matching computers aren't far behind.

I was right, but I didn't realize how right until I saw their massive collection of old Mac software in those classic big boxes and a few old machines - a Macintosh IIcx, a Power Macintosh 6500/250, an indigo iMac G3 350 slot-loader, and a PowerBook G3 (which unfortunately turned out to be the infamous "MainStreet" variant, garbage DSTN passive-matrix LCD and no L2 cache and 32 MB of RAM and all), with their main machines at the time being a small fleet of 14" iBook G4s and a plastic Core 2 Duo MacBook. They'd even tell me about old stuff like HyperCard and how far ahead of its time it was.

To me, this was like a museum of computing, a whole new world to learn, and what better opportunity than dabbling with some of this stuff? I started off with the MainStreet, nice keyboard and all, but the LCD irritated me far more than the lack of CPU cache, so I ordered a Pismo off eBay. Nice little machine for what it was. It was on that Pismo that I did my initial reaping from a certain Garden, so to speak.

Well, the MainStreet went off to relatives in the Philippines I've never met (my mom insisted on it and probably didn't realize how hopelessly obsolete it was), and we held our own garage sale where the Pismo sold. I didn't have any Macs for several years after that, having opted to pursue my gaming PC interests instead.

I did revisit the good neighbors a few months back, though, and talked them into giving me the Power Mac 6500. It was rough to set up, though - no modern interfaces out of the box, CD drive doesn't read CD-RWs, and my only Mac OS 9 installer disc as a holdover from the PowerBooks was 9.2.1, too new for a pre-G3 machine. However, it's a champ for early/mid-1990s games, complete with ADB port for those pre-InputSprocket games that expect to talk to a Thrustmaster FCS/WCS/RCS setup directly. Late 1990s releases hit pretty hard because they want a G3, though, and it shows. Even my Voodoo2 doesn't help much in it due to the CPU bottleneck.

This would not stand. I needed something more powerful, ideally the MDD Power Mac G4. I knew you guys got the FW800 machines to boot OS 9 natively, so I tracked down a 1.42 GHz system on eBay for a price I was willing to pay, planted a bid, and got it - already loaded with 2 GB of RAM, three working hard drives (and a failed fourth drive, ironically the Apple factory option), and two of those drives had Leopard Server and Tiger pre-installed. How convenient!

There were also two extra add-on cards: a SCSI controller (which I have no real use for at the moment, but it's nice to have in case I run into more SCSI stuff outside of the 6500) and a Sonnet Tempo Trio, the latter of which I moved to the 6500 just so it has USB and FireWire for a change. When you've only got two PCI slots to work with, make them count!

After a bit of HDD shuffling, I gave the Unsupported G4 image a shot here. Sure enough, it works like a charm - who says that you can't boot OS 9 on a FW800 MDD now? I just need to get all my OS 9 apps and stuff onto it, and with the 6500 bearing the Tango Trio with FW400 now, I think I can work something out with Target Disk Mode.

So now I'm here, typing up this post on that MDD G4. I still need to do a few more tweaks for this machine to fulfill its purpose of being the one-stop-shop for PowerPC-era Mac gaming - for starters, AGP card with Core Image (was going to use a spare Radeon 9800 Pro 'til I saw how badly it artifacted during POST despite being in storage for years), PCI card with full QD3D RAVE/OpenGL acceleration under OS 9. It might not result in the absolute best OS 9 gaming performance that way, but my outlook is that anything that needs a faster graphics card is going to also run on OS X, and better to boot.

And yes, I did just put the words "Mac" and "gaming" next to each other. It's a subject that gets overlooked due to Apple having historically overpriced and underpowered hardware, alongside most computer games only getting Windows releases. Well, there's a few Mac OS exclusives out there, surprisingly, and some of the ports like X-Wing/TIE Fighter are said to be the best versions overall (in that case, high-res graphics while keeping iMUSE dynamic MIDI music). Someone needs to document all this!

Also, about OS X macOS today... I've also fiddled a bit with Hackintoshing my main desktop (a powerhouse i7-4770K 4.6 GHz/32 GB DDR3-2400/GTX 980 build that serves as my primary computer), and it surprisingly works! Helped me burn some functional OS 9 CDs for my 6500, too - something I wouldn't dare try under Windows.

But El Capitan and Sierra... argh, they don't feel like the Mac OS X I knew at all. Too many questionable iOS-esque design decisions, like fullscreen apps that get treated like a separate virtual desktop and thus don't show up in Expose Mission Control like other windows, a Launchpad where opening the Applications folder in the Finder should've been sufficient, etc. To me, they're OSes I can run for the modern Mac experience, but it just feels pointless when I can do just about everything better in Windows, particularly the purpose for which that system was built. Yeah, go ahead, call me a heretic if you want, that's just my preference.

And that's why I have the 6500 and MDD G4 now - they actually provide something that my fleet of Windows PCs can't, that being compatibility with a long legacy of old Macintosh software. Some might say that SheepShaver is good enough, but for me, it's not even close. Classic Mode is lightyears ahead of SheepShaver, and even that's still not as good as booting OS 9 natively!

Hey, maybe I'll make a DAW out of it eventually if I ever find myself so musically inclined. This forum at least tempts me to try.


wow thats a nice story. Welcome to the community.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: UFO on May 19, 2017, 01:40:31 AM
Greetings from Spain! Another new member here :)

I arrive to this forum to find out more and learn about the "new" iMac G3 DV I recently purchased and the one I'm posting from. It is a great machine! CPU is a 400 MHz and I've upgraded it to 512 MB RAM (waiting to get 512 more) and a 80 GB disk. When I upgraded it I discovered how beautifully and well built are these machines.

About my background, my first computer was an IBM Aptive back in 1.996 and been a PC&WIN user but I've always been fascinated with Macs. This "professional" halo they had back in the 90s had me drooling all over computer magazines. Now is the moment to discover them and what a better place to start researching than this community.

Hope to learn a lot from you, guys.

Cheers!

Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: DesertMac on May 25, 2017, 02:35:14 PM
Can't figure out how to put a post up about myself.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Borg on May 28, 2017, 05:08:37 PM
Hi,
Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Dave and I have been a Mac user since my 1986 Mac Plus. Sometimes wish I still had it. I have a mirror door G4 (along with a few Mac books) that I will add an OS 9 partition so I can use some of my older software (mostly games). It has been a while since I have worked with the system tools so I will likely need help.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Roman78 on May 31, 2017, 10:38:56 PM
Hello everybody.

Time to introduce myself. My name is Roman, 39 Year young and from Germany.

I stumbled over this forum on a search for a quiet G4 Quicksilver, as I'm just installing one for some Audio digitalizing. Have a lot of old radioplay's from my childhood that I planned to digitalize. Also have some other G3's, G4's, G5'S, Intel and older Apple Computers, oldest one is a Apple ][c and an Europlus.

I studied IT in the Netherlands and started using Macs in the early 2000's. Just to achieve the largest possible variety of knowledge about hard and software. And I'm a collector of old computers from the early times till the mid 90's.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: cnaa on June 07, 2017, 11:11:30 AM
Hello good people, and greetings from Finland. I found my way to this forum after picking up a Power Mac G4 Sawtooth in bad shape at a thrift store - my first PPC Mac ever. I've kinda taken a habit of "rescuing" old and semi-old computers, game consoles, Hi-Fi etc. at thrift stores, yard sales and whatnot and trying my best to restore them to working original state. These colourful-plastic-clad Macs were always something that I was really curious about as a kid, but never even had a chance to actually try them. Guess this hobby is a way to somehow relive those times and finally get the feeling of fulfillment, and hopefully managing to preserve some of these pieces of computer culture. Anyway I'm a complete newbie when it comes to these real Macs (non-x86) and real Mac OS (non-Unix) environments, and that's also what intrigues me... it feels like I'm learning about computers again! And it seems I'm not alone, judging by the existence of this website and forum ;^) But yeah that's why I'm here - finally getting to know (and/or troubleshoot!) this machine after all these years. :-)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: hiro on June 08, 2017, 05:39:20 AM
Hi all.
I'm a Japanese OS9 user.

I have been using MacOS since about 1998.First I had black Performa 5420 for create music.
Soon later I had get Opcode Vision 3.5,AKAI S1100 and Roland VS-880.Just 1st "Bondi blue" iMac had selling around then.
At that time Speaking of a Computer, have a CUI on DOS. I only known about it. So I was fascinated by GUI on Mac completely.
A few years later, bought G4(AGP)machine for Photoshop and Illustrator.
After many years,had took interest in MS Windows Machines.

A few years ago,got DA and MDD Machine.Because I felt sad that was sell too cheap.DA and MDD active even now as for the create music.
When I am using MacOS9,have a peaceful mind.Then feel very nostalgic like Came back to the hometown.
Anyway,I think that Classic Mac had many Innovative softwares.It's useful a lot for me even now.

I'm glad to see still be presence Classic MacOS9 users around the world.
I'm grateful this site.I want to contribute something If I can.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Philgood on June 08, 2017, 10:42:15 AM
Welcome Hiro.

I remember mentioning Japanese sites in this forum having supposedly valuable information but we were lacking a good translator. Maybe someone can help finding the threads and you could help with it translating them.
Or you could help with contacting Japanese developers who maybe will be willing to make available some great software for our vintage Macs.

Good to see you here around.

Also I welcome all the others New members who came around recently.
It's great to see that community rising.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: dr bu on June 08, 2017, 01:16:56 PM

When I am using MacOS9,have a peaceful mind.
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:)
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Post by: IIO on June 08, 2017, 01:19:52 PM
:)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: someofmystuff on July 01, 2017, 12:58:26 PM
Hi, I'm Chris. My first Mac was an LC III. Actually that was my first 'proper' computer, I had an Amiga 600 before that. Mostly PC based just now due to work and computers being so linked. I've got two or three old Macs back in my parents loft that I need to dig out and dust off.

I also love messing with old synths and samplers (Emu Emax and ESI 2000).
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on July 01, 2017, 10:44:05 PM
I've got two or three old Macs back in my parents loft that I need to dig out and dust off.


Start digging and dusting!!  ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Canal Noises on July 03, 2017, 10:21:34 PM
Hey all, my name's Isaac. I started using a Mac as my primary computer in 2007 after originally being introduced to them when I was in elementary school in the mid '90s. Once I was firmly intrenched in OS X, I found a Power Mac G4 Sawtooth on the local classified ads and started tinkering with OS 9 and earlier versions of OS X. After working at an Apple Authorized Reseller for a few years and now supporting Macs in a media production environment, I'm finally getting back to OS 9. I have a dual 800 MHz Mirror Drive Door G4 and a 700 MHz graphite iMac G3 now, and I'm finding I actually really like OS 9. Looking forward to learning more about what these great machines can do!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: WillyWonka on July 08, 2017, 12:56:09 PM
Hello all, my name's Enrique and i'm from Spain.


My first Mac was a then-powerful Intel iMac bought at home. I wanted a laptop before college so I bought a Titanium PowerBook at eBay, and that was my first contact with Mac OS 9. Now I got a Sawtooth PowerMac G4 at a second hand items shop. I'm using it side-by-side with my 2013 MacBook Air. I learned FreeHand when I was younger so a PowerPC Macintosh or Snow Leopard is a must, and none of them are options in my Air.

I'm trying to get everything I need for OS 9 for that PowerMac, meanwhile I have to stick with Tiger...  :-\

I'll try to contribute some spanish OS 9/X software I have lying around.

Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: puttesnutte on July 17, 2017, 11:02:04 AM
Hello!  :)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on July 17, 2017, 11:08:43 AM
Welcome!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: djim on July 17, 2017, 04:56:12 PM
Hi All,

I'm new to the forum but I've been a long time Mac user since the early 90's, starting with a very second hand Macintosh II, followed by a performa 630, Bondi Blue iMac, white iBook G3, eMac, and then taking the leap to Intel with a couple of MacBook's Pro. Driven by pangs of mainly nostalgia and gear lust I recently found and have been restoring a G4 Cube (returning it to OS 9) with the aim of, well, I dunno really:) Initially I was planning on using it for writing and some light gaming, now digital music beckons and who knows what else. I guess I'm here to ask stupid questions and find out what other projects people have for their machines.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Mike Richardson on July 23, 2017, 08:50:35 AM
You actually approved me with this username?

Can I change it to an actual one?
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: devils_advisor on July 23, 2017, 09:03:19 AM
You actually approved me with this username?

Can I change it to an actual one?


well with or without titties welcome :D


check your profile to change things around

Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: IIO on July 23, 2017, 11:29:35 AM
watch out guys, diehard applies user avatar imgaes to users based on their names.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Mike Richardson on July 26, 2017, 07:43:13 PM
I was able to apply a more suitable name :P

The profile image is my old dog "Spunky", he passed away, but he was a good little dog.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: FdB on July 26, 2017, 08:11:42 PM
Well Mike, regardless of your particular physical attributes (and or the lack thereof), specific ones. Welcome. And, aren't you glad that DieHard didn't apply a certain type of avi for you? (See mine for reference.)

Welcome!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Mike Richardson on July 26, 2017, 11:16:15 PM
Well Mike, regardless of your particular physical attributes (and or the lack thereof), specific ones. Welcome. And, aren't you glad that DieHard didn't apply a certain type of avi for you? (See mine for reference.)

Welcome!

Honestly, the original name I put, well, it's the sort of name I put when the site says, "you must register".

Then it said that the admin has to approve the registration and I thought it would be denied for sure.

So I was intrigued that the admin accepted the registration!

I see all the related avatars - I wonder what might have been if I had not changed the name  -afro-

If anyone can help me with this I would be eternally grateful: http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,3922.0.html

We have a deadline coming up, we are exhibiting 6 eMacs at a convention on Saturday, the eMacs need to run Duke Nukem 3D and Quake III Tournament, and I want them booting OS 9 because the old MacPlay Duke is much better than the OS X stuff.... We got the eMacs to boot OS 9 but Radeon is completely screwed! Anyone with tips please post in the thread!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: macStuff on August 07, 2017, 11:01:14 AM
greetings fellow mac enthusiasts!

thanks for approving my membership,
i have a collection of vintage macs that i still use for creative purposes,
its amazing the potential that these old machines still possess!
its great to have a community like this for supporting the old machines
now that apple does not!

thanks for having me
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Jakl on August 11, 2017, 07:29:01 AM
Great to have you on board here macStuff  :)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: wilcofan on August 14, 2017, 05:19:32 PM
Hello, I've been lurking here for a couple of years and recently had the fortune of a producer friend from Colorado donate me a G3 B&W 400.  If you can imagine, he actually toted it on a plane ride to New York where we were meeting for vacation.  (!)

1992 began with first Atari 1040STE with Cubase and a Midiman device.  After a few years I spent more time with 24 track reels of tape than MIDI so I lost the setup in moves.  By 1998 I convinced artists we could record in my living room to this new VST thing.  ;) 

19 years, and about 500 upgrades later I'm back sequencing on Studio Vision for the first time and wondering why I waited?  I have a Pro Tools Mix system coming in the mail, the kind of system I dreamed of in 1998 and bashed anybody for spending $20,000 on!  :-[


Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: pulsar on August 18, 2017, 01:04:25 PM
Hello everyone,

I am Steve from the Netherlands. I recently picked up an old G4 to house my old Creamware DSP cards.
I am trying to turn my G4 into a synthesizer. I had DP G4 a long time ago and I honestly forget how good OS 9 works.
Anyway I'm glad to see that there's a place (online) where OS 9 is alive and well.

-S
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: vimanas on August 30, 2017, 05:36:16 PM
hey everyone!

excited to be able to peruse the forums in full glory now! my name's andrew - hello from philadelphia! i've got a number of PPC macs kicking around and like some other users on this board, i'm a fan of "rescuing" old macs and am currently working on the restoration of a 1.25 ghz powermac g4 i was lucky enough to score for a song on my local craigslist. looking forward to sharing my projects as time goes on!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: IIO on September 01, 2017, 01:21:51 PM
Hello!  :)

du schon wieder.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: idiotjoketeen on September 02, 2017, 04:07:16 PM
What's good! Thanks for approving my registration.

I decided to finally join after knowing of this site for awhile. A friend of mine has a PowerMac G3 on OS 9, who used this forum at one point. I recently found an iMac G3/600 at a Goodwill up in ATX and wanted to get OS 9 restored since some of the control panels e.g. multiple users and appearance are acting up. The last owner wiped this iMac with a install disk from this site but I guess they didn't check everything through. No big deal though as I like messing with this kind of stuff.

I'm not sure what I want to do with this iMac but I'm glad I found it. I'm into vintage computers in general, so I've been wanting to start a collection for awhile. My household was never an Apple one; I was raised on Windows 9x and still use Windows to this day, but a lot of the elementary and middle schools I went to used these Macs and I always enjoyed using them.

(oops I left this tab open for like an hour and forgot to actually post)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Sweep on October 11, 2017, 02:48:57 PM
Hello Guys & Girls,

I have just bought my first mac computer after years of only using PC. The reason is that it came with a Howtek D4500 drum scanner where the Aurora software and dongle only work on OS9.The machine is a Powermac G4 with code M8493 if that means anything.
I bought a Radeon 9000 pro off ebay for £20 so I could run my 27" DVI-D monitor as the original card only had VGA and some weird Apple output. I was worried that I would need to find a driver for the card but it worked without a problem.
There does seem to be bits missing from the operating system as there is no internet browser and Finder and Help don't seem to work and I keep getting "Alias missing" prompts.
I did download iCab on my PC and load it on the G4 via USB but it seems pretty primitive and keeps getting error messages. Once I had iCab on the G4 I tried to 'upgrade' to Cassilla but kept getting error messages in iCab so gave up.
I suppose the only thing I really need from the Mac is to set up a file exchange system so I can move the Tiff files onto my Windows 10 machine but I might just have a play with other stuff if you can all persuade me :-)

...Sweep
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: GaryN on October 11, 2017, 04:10:07 PM
Welcome to the other side Sweep!

Don't know where you got your OS9 but it may be missing some bits.
You can download Classilla to a thumb as you did iCab and get it on the machine. BUT
First thing is to verify the OS9 install - if it's questionable in origin, grab a known good install from our files here and start over.
The best way to do that is to grab the iso and burn it to a disc on your other machine (assuming you have a working CD or DVD drive in the Mac)
The Finder IS working  or else you wouldn't even get what you're getting. Help require files and an extension properly placed in the System - that's why I suggest you re-install an OS9 from here. That should cure all of that stuff AND prevent further hassles with the Aurora install.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: devils_advisor on October 11, 2017, 05:00:02 PM
Welcome to the other side Sweep!

Don't know where you got your OS9 but it may be missing some bits.
You can download Classilla to a thumb as you did iCab and get it on the machine. BUT
First thing is to verify the OS9 install - if it's questionable in origin, grab a known good install from our files here and start over.
The best way to do that is to grab the iso and burn it to a disc on your other machine (assuming you have a working CD or DVD drive in the Mac)
The Finder IS working  or else you wouldn't even get what you're getting. Help require files and an extension properly placed in the System - that's why I suggest you re-install an OS9 from here. That should cure all of that stuff AND prevent further hassles with the Aurora install.


DONT DO THAT UNTIL YOU MADE A BACKUP!!!


i assume you dont have any of the drivers that came with the machine. If so you render that setup unusable.
Extensions and so on will be lost and we may not have a way to help you with that. Backup the drive and keep it
Safe before you start fresh. Afterwards you could try to use the 9.2 update and see if that fixes your issues instead of
wiping the drive right away.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: GaryN on October 11, 2017, 09:49:20 PM
i assume you dont have any of the drivers that came with the machine.
You're also assuming he has no common sense about backups after years of suffering with PC's…

But yeah Sweep, if you have only the Aurora software that came already on the machine, don't forget you'll need to preserve it before doing ANYTHING else.
Hopefully you got the software and or installer and a scanner manual along with the dongle.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Sweep on October 12, 2017, 12:02:56 PM
Hi Gary & DA,

Don't worry about reminding me to back things up as sometimes the most obvious things are the ones that we forget to do.
Fortunately the scanner driver and the Aurora software are freely downloadable from the manufacturer's site. These files have extensions .hqx if that seems right?
I suppose my first question should be ...should I post my question here in the introductions sections or start a new thread elsewhere?
My second question, wherever I post it, will be how do I identify and make a back-up of Aurora, the scanner driver, and whatever part of OS9 is on my machine? :-)

...Sweep
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Jubadub on October 13, 2017, 01:47:31 AM
Greetings, I just resurrected a PowerBook G3 Wallstreet of mine after a hard disk failure and, having lost my original Mac OS CDs, I just was able to get things back to work better than ever thanks to Mac OS 9 Lives' latest universal Mac OS 9.2.2 install CD.

Following its readme's suggestion, I registered and dropped by to say hello. :)

Brief history about myself: Having been born surrounded by Macs thanks to my family, I never understood the world being surrounded by "PCs" for their relative incompetence in regards to UX, overall lack of performance, stability & consistency, but of course, as I grew up, I learnt of the obvious price factor... And many other factors that lead people to all sorts of paths in regards to computing.

I am completely agnostic towards all forms of hardware and software, in the sense that I work with whatever I have to to accomplish any given task, but when given an equally-sound choice, I tend to favor libre software and hardware (at least to a certain degree), and PowerPC Mac hardware & software. Particularly... you guessed it: Mac OS 9.2.2.

My wet-dream is to have a fully-upgraded & maxed-out Quad Core G5. (I know, they can't boot OS 9, at least not without yet-to-be-seen hacking, but ya know). I also greatly consider getting 2 specific G4 models to have the best OS9 experience possible.

Random trivia: My speech voice used for Mac OS 9 is configured, before reading out warnings, to say "Holy fucking shit!". So even when I encounter an error... I'm pleased. Haha.

Nice to be with you all! Mac OS 9 Lives!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on October 13, 2017, 06:54:55 AM

My speech voice used for Mac OS 9 is configured, before reading out warnings, to say "Holy fucking shit!". So even when I encounter an error... I'm pleased. Haha.


LOVE this!! ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: flemmingsa on November 08, 2017, 12:01:59 PM
Hi. I am Flemming from Denmark

I've been using macs since the Mac Mini in about 2009, but have been fascinated by them for much longer. Grew up on Commodore computers though...
My way into os9 goes through an AKAI S3000XL sampler i acquired at some point. That made me interested in the MESA software for editing the sampler, so I started looking for a mac with scsi. Initially I wanted to run System 7, but then i found this forum.
I also like to use Rebirth, Sounddiver and some of the NI instruments.

I have already gotten lots of help on setting up the Radeon card :-)
Thanks for that!

At the moment this is my system:

Power Macintosh 7600
MacOS 9.1
Radeon 7000
Steinberg ST24/96
Acard IDE thingy
Emagic amt8
Cinema Display
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: macStuff on November 13, 2017, 08:57:58 PM
A few years ago,got DA and MDD Machine.Because I felt sad that was sell too cheap.DA and MDD active even now as for the create music.
When I am using MacOS9,have a peaceful mind.Then feel very nostalgic like Came back to the hometown.
Anyway,I think that Classic Mac had many Innovative softwares.It's useful a lot for me even now.

thanks for sharing Hiro ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: FdB on November 13, 2017, 09:51:25 PM
Yes, what happened with Hiro? One opening post and then pffft, gone. And after leaving the following gem: When I am using MacOS9, have a peaceful mind.
How much nearer perfection can one get in summation? Come back Hiro!
Title: YOU KNOW JOE
Post by: ominousred on November 16, 2017, 01:24:32 PM
Hello!

A good friend of mine sent me here after I posted a picture of my old G3 Beige Mac Desktop Rollerball Mouse.

The only computers I have ever personally bought were Macs.

I currently support a small office of about 40 Mac users after leaving a corporation that had a couple thousand PC users and about 50 MAC users.

I love everything about the Mac and it's workflow and ecology. I am upgrading to an iPhoneX to study that experience and workflow along side my two workstations. I use an iMac in the office and a Mini at home. I was using a MacBook Pro but I gave that up to an associate.

My goal for 2018 is to get all my old Mac's up and running for my own personal Mac Museum. And each machine will be capable of running some form of MAME Emulation.

I try to keep good notes on my personal development blog and I will be hitting up the knowledgeable in this community for much needed information. I will see what I can find and maybe contribute where I can.

HELLO!!!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Rokit on November 28, 2017, 01:47:45 PM
Hi,

Greetings from Belgium.

Dusted off my 1999 EMU ESI4000 sampler, added SCSI2SD and microtech USB-SCSI. Want to run a vintage OS on IMAC retina.

Anyone else tried this? Any suggestions are welcome.

Best regards
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Naiw on November 28, 2017, 03:52:43 PM
Greetings from Sweden.

Been using Macs since 1992 (in parallel with pretty much every other system), but Macs always been my prefered system at home. So had pretty much at least one Mac per platform, of the top of my head: SE/30, Powerbook 230 Duo, Centris 610, Powerbook Duo 2300, Performa 6320, PowerMac G4 (Yikes), PowerMac G5/1.8 Uni, PowerMac G4 QS2002, PowerMac G5 Quad, Macbook Pro penryn, Macbook Pro sandy bridge, Macbook Pro mid 2014.

Switched from Mac OS 9 to Linux (fulltime) around 1999, Switch ”back” to OS X around 2003, been running OS X since on my macs.

Programmer/System engineer/Architect by trade, Ironically today focusing .NET/Windows primary.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: tooloudtoowide on December 01, 2017, 01:54:35 AM
Greetings from Poland,

my name is Marcin and I own Macs from 2000 starting from Pismo G3/400, BondiBlue iMac G3, then thru G4 Cube, iMac G4 desklamp, G4 MDD, G5, iBook G4, Powerbook G4, Powerbookpro (iIntel i5), iMac 21" Intel, new iMac 5k... so whole road on "new world Macs". Unfortunately only iMac G4 desklamp stayed with me (but this is G4 700 so booting easy from MacOS9) from the old ones. A few years ago I have bought Macintosh Classic - love it and it still works :) I have purchased also Mac mini G4 (1.42) to have something small to play with... Amiga OS4 :) but also I want this one to be bootable from MacOS9... and this is how I have arrived here. Cheers!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: 360alaska on December 03, 2017, 12:28:30 AM
Greetings from Texas...
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Sinthoid on December 04, 2017, 12:00:04 PM
Hello, I am a aspiring producer currently in college learning music composition, performance, and engineering. I was probably born around the same time as OS9, so this is actually a brave new world for me. I plan on buying a cheap rig soon to run Logic 6.4.3 as well as some other standalone editors and processors, to add some extra sound design potential to my main windows rig. Before I jump in I plan on doing a lot of research on this forum. Pleased to meet you all.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: laylow on December 09, 2017, 04:37:31 PM
Hey everyone, new member here.

My first computer was an Apple IIe, and not long after that, we got a Mac Plus, with a very noisy used 20 MB external hard drive.  My dad bought a Centris 650 in 1993 to run his business on, and since then, I've been through tons of Macs.  I have fond memories of OS 6-9, and while I haven't used them for years, lately I've really been missing all those old games, and the simplicity and speed of the Classic Mac OS.  In my day job, I live in Windows 10, Server 2012, and OS X High Sierra, and those evironments just don't have the same feel.

Last week I found an iMac G3 DV SE 400MHz on craigslist for $35.  Brought it home, and found it to be running 10.4.11.  Internal speakers don't work, and the optical drive is crapping out, but I managed to make it work long enough to get 9.0 installed.  Upgraded to 9.1, then 9.2 just a few minutes ago, and now I am posting this from Classilla, preparing to dive into a long Prince of Persia section. 

I can't wait to get into the DAW section of the forum.  I've got a podcast with some friends, and I want to see if I can record and edit a show entirely on this iMac just for fun. 



Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: ccmac on December 14, 2017, 09:14:45 AM
A new user saying a quick hello.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Misonic on December 20, 2017, 11:29:36 PM
Hy

Misonic from Croatia here :)
My interest lies in samplers(E-Mu Ultra E4XT) and oldschool sample cd so if u need some just let me know ;)
Cheers
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: ellejohara on December 22, 2017, 03:07:57 PM
Greetings!

I'm ellejohara. I mostly draw comics and illustrations, but I also have a vlog in which I sometimes talk about the Macs I have. I've been using Mac OS since 6.0.8 and OS 9 holds a dear place in my heart as it was the operating system I became most familiar with when I worked as a computer lab supervisor for an elementary school. I have a Power PC Mac collection which includes the 2000 indigo iMac 400 MHz I originally used when I was working at the school (which still is running OS 9), as well as several other machines I've acquired over the years. My other OS 9 Macs are a 1998 bondi blue iMac 233 MHz and a G4 Sawtooth with a 1.2 GHz processor upgrade.

I'm here because I want to keep OS 9 alive, and push my G4 Sawtooth to be the best OS 9 computer I can make it.

Carpe Diem...
ellejohara
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on December 22, 2017, 06:27:47 PM
Quote from: ellejohara link=topic=1991.msg28255#msg28255 date=1513984077


I'm here because I want to keep OS 9 alive
[/quote

Well you've certainly come to the right place!!! ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: oldtimer on December 24, 2017, 08:25:23 PM
I started using Macs for music and MIDI in 1997, using a Power Computing Power Tower Pro 250 (a 9600 604e clone), running a Pro Tools d24 system and Studio Vision Pro in Mac OS 7.6.1.  :)

I have since added several Apple desktop and laptop Macs. I have 3 different Pro Tools hardware systems -- expanded Mix, expanded d24, and expanded NuBus PT III (not currently used). I currently run Pro Tools 5.1.3cs11, Logic Pro 6.4.1, SVP 4.5.1, and SoundDiver 3.0.4 in Mac OS 9.2.2, and Pro Tools 6.4.1 and Logic Pro 7.1 in Mac OS 10.3.8.

Even though I've had Logic for several years (started with Platinum 5), I've only recently started using Logic (Pro 6 and 7). Learning the environment in Logic Platinum 5, and getting it to work with Pro Tools, gave me headaches.  :)

I found this site while searching for Logic info and I'm amazed at the treasure trove of stuff that's here. I plan to download some VSTi, VSTfx, and TDM plugins I've found here to add to my collection.

Keep up the good work. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: macStuff on December 25, 2017, 02:48:17 PM
I started using Macs for music and MIDI in 1997, using a Power Computing Power ToLearning the environment in Logic Platinum 5, and getting it to work with Pro Tools, gave me headaches.  :)

i think EVERYBODY feels the same way.. lol logic still gives me headaches i wish i knew it better
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: faultywarrior on December 26, 2017, 09:27:42 AM
So I'm supposed to say something about myself...

Well, I collect vintage computers, mostly from the dot-com boom (1996-2001)...tons of Macs, lots of other obscure stuff (Sun, SGI, etc.) and I make YouTube videos on the stuff I collect.

Oh, and I'm also known as "the other guy with a mainframe in his parent's basement"  ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: DieHard on December 26, 2017, 09:33:13 AM
Quote
Oh, and I'm also known as "the other guy with a mainframe in his parent's basement"

That is awesome :)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: faultywarrior on December 26, 2017, 10:02:52 AM
Quote
Oh, and I'm also known as "the other guy with a mainframe in his parent's basement"

That is awesome :)
Indeed.  It's quite a drastic shift from the usual desktops and servers I'm used to...but it's unique and pretty cool to play with.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: stevewithers on January 20, 2018, 11:12:37 AM
Evening all  :)

I'm Steve and have been using Macs for about 20 years or so.

Bought a G4 Yikes today just to run Sound Diver as I am all about the old midi gear.

Will help where I can but its been a long time since I was on 9 - currently trying to update to 9.2!

Steve

Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Philgood on January 20, 2018, 12:35:27 PM
So I'm supposed to say something about myself...

Well, I collect vintage computers, mostly from the dot-com boom (1996-2001)...tons of Macs, lots of other obscure stuff (Sun, SGI, etc.) and I make YouTube videos on the stuff I collect.

Oh, and I'm also known as "the other guy with a mainframe in his parent's basement"  ;D

Hi!

I saw a lecture in YouTube of someone talking about this. Don't remember more details about it right now as it was some time ago.
Will try to find the link.

Is that you ?

Found it...

https://youtu.be/45X4VP8CGtk
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: macStuff on January 20, 2018, 01:46:46 PM
Bought a G4 Yikes today just to run Sound Diver as I am all about the old midi gear.

http://mirror.macintosharchive.org/macintoshgarden.org/files/apps/PowerMacG4CD_86.ZIP
heres the cd that shipped with the yikes! g4, for running mac os 8.6 (machine specific install cd)
if you are into opcode software, i usually run opcode stuff on os 8.6! because that was the current os back when SVP was still being run + managed by Opcode, before gibson took it over and killed it off before os9.0 was released!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: pfgrenier on January 26, 2018, 06:35:06 PM
Hello,
1st of all I would like to thank you! I was getting nostalgic for OS9, and started pulling my hair out trying to get it loaded on a original iMac G4. In all my considerable stash of machine specific and retail installers I couldn't find anything that would load. A little research led me to the fact that my machine needed an apparently rare installer. Then I found this place! I downloaded and burned a CD but no luck. Well, I tried another burn with a relatively modern CD instead of an ancient Kodak and success!
I have a slew of machines that would run OS9, but I thought the G4 would be the best candidate. So now I have to relearn a lot, I started with OS6 but have been mostly on OS X for the last 17 years. I'm looking forward to loading all my classic "programs" and tweaks. I wonder id Conflict Catcher will run...
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Post by: fisherbloke on January 27, 2018, 10:24:17 AM
Thank you.
I decided to become a member as I own a few old powermac G4's and G5's,have always been interested in finding more about them.
I also have an old ibook G3 clamshell original,would like to find out a bit more about it.Would like to get them running properly again.Thank you
Mark.
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Post by: ratzfatz on February 03, 2018, 03:59:11 AM
Hi, I am Chris from Germany. I started with a Plus in 1986, have no idea how many Macs went on and off my desk. I came here whilst looking for some hints about OS9 and like to contribute. Many thanks @all to keep this great OS community running.

It took me years to get along with OSX and after some unpleasant experiences with emulation software I decided to spend 50 € into an old G4 iMac (PowerMac4,5, M6498) with good old OS9. Its kind of frustrating to see these beautiful machines being sold for such low prices here in Germany – but mainstream seems to be more interested into iPods and so on.

I look forward to meet some interesting people here.
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Post by: Petros90 on February 13, 2018, 03:55:05 AM
Hello. my name's Pete and  it's good to see so many sensible and normal people who believe that OS9 is the best operating system ever ...
I bought my G3 400 B&W (with 128MB RAM upgrade, external LaCie 20GB FireWire drive, SCSI CD writer, SCSI scanner, Miro capture card and matching B &W Mac monitor - bit of a luxury that one, as there was a cheaper Formac alternative. Sadly the scanner and monitor are no more) in 2000 as a mature student in the final year of my graphic design degree.
I'd used Macs at work previously but the (hideously expensive) G3 /OS8.6 seemed amazingly fast and capable.
I used it for moving and still image projects (Adobe Premiere 5.1c and Photoshop 4) and loved it. As a hobby I became interested in sound & music production, bought Cubase 5 in 2002. So began a year of fun and frustration.
Several issues appeared - mainly lack of power to run VSTs and intermittent boot failure were irritating, while lack of cash had forced me to buy the Soundblaster Live! soundcard, which although OK for audio and having onboard soundfonts was hopeless with MIDI. This was probably due to the crap driver, I concluded. No-one could help me, everyone who had Cubase 5.1 (as we called it then) was running it on a PC.
In 2003 when it failed to boot at all I bought a Pentium IV PC on the advice of a friend , and the G3 went into storage.
Fast-forward fifteen years and I realise that despite owning modern-ish PCs and laptops I'm not actually making much music. I'm tired of online validation and the constant urging to upgrade! upgrade! and buy the latest thing. I have the Zone crack of VST 5.1 for PC but it's missing the Universal Sound Module and quits out erratically on anything later than W2K.
( have Sony Acid Pro, which isn't bad at all and in some ways the most similar to VST 5.1 (I've trialled a lot of DAWs) but I don't find it as easy to use. After starting to build a W2K machine and searching in vain for a pukka copy of VST 5 for PC I realise I'm barking up the wrong tree. And, I'd like to review my University video and stills projects, all saved in "Mac files and folders" format on CD, maybe put some up on You Tube.)
Somewhere, I have a pukka Cubase VST 5  install CD for Mac. And a dud Mac.
So begins a week of intense focus. Amazingly the G3 boots up. Blank screen, a call to the very helpful I.T . Centre in Bristol and I re-set the P-RAM - I've forgotten so much stuff. The intermittent boot failure seems to be a sticking power button which is an interference fit in some places, it requires a gentle touch.
I boot up into OS 9.1 and the year 1956 ...
It's like the return of an old friend. The Logic board turns out to be the Rev. 2. The memory issue is possibly due to an assorted collection of RAM, so I take out the two mismatched 128MB cards.
 After a frantic search I find the Cubase 5 retail package - but no "Getting Into The Details" book, OR THE CD. More searching and the CD turns up in a stash destined for the charity shop. It seems this is indeed, the Last Chance Saloon.
I scour the web, find this site and others.
With help from this site, Mac Help, and The Book "Sad Macs, Bombs and Other Disasters" book I now have DieHard's OS 9.2.2 installed, a 250GB HD (effectively 128 GB), M-Audio Mobile Pre USB soundcard interface, Cubase 5 installed , and it's all working. I have a Logic board battery arriving today, and 768MB of matching RAM arriving this week. What fun.
Of course, it's not that simple. It's taken a while, a lot of effort and the postponement of other priorities to get here and the Big Lesson to learn is not to hurry. I'm so used to multitasking on a modern PC that the Mac seems slow. If I go at it too hard and fast, it locks up.
But slowing down is a good thing. It helps to focus on what is required. The extra RAM should improve VST performance, I'm hoping.
I'm going to follow DieHard's installation instructions for reinstalling Cubase 5.1, I probably should reinstall OS 9.2.2 first.  I foolishly installed the Soundblaster Live! software in my excitement. It didn't work and I've little interest in finding out why. The card is junk, although I have all the packaging, literature and CDs. Maybe it's worth a few quid on eBay.
I have probably many questions to pose of the macos9lives forum top expert-specialist OS9-wallahs, but it probably would be a good idea to go slow and actually try and produce some recordings, after all, that's why we do this, innit.
Thanks to the Top Brass on macos9lives, if only you'd been available for advice in 2003 I may have followed a different path. But at least I "got there" in the end.
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Post by: TheRealKMan on February 17, 2018, 02:31:29 PM
Greetings. 35 year old Canadian here, posting from my lovingly restored iBook G3/700MHz running 9.2.2, which will soon have the RAM maxed out. I also want to put in a small SSD, more for noise reduction than speed, and I'm considering having the battery rebuilt so I can use it on the go -- right now the battery only works for about half an hour.
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Post by: Smack2k on February 18, 2018, 12:35:18 PM
Hello everyone and Greetings from Pittsburgh, PA

So glad I found this forum as I am just beginning my quest into Mac OS 9 and have a lot to learn.

My knowledge computer is wise is pretty heavily slanted on the PC side, but I have been a MAC Fan since mid 2000's and have run a 2006 MacBook, 2010 MacBook Pro, and currently my main computer in my garage where I have been banished by the wife is a 2008 MacPro that I have upgraded the heck out of with a GeForce 970, 32GB RAM, and dual Quad Core 3+ GHZ Procs.  I love the thing.  Being that I only got into Mac's in the mid 2K's, my OS knowledge falls entirely in the OS X land! 

I am also a huge retro computer fan and recently was given a PowerMac G4 (Sawtooth AGP 450) to add to my retro collection.  Being my first "older" Mac and not knowing a lot about it, I started to do some research on upgrades, things I could do to beef it up but keep it at least close to its era.  That's when I found this forum and had to join!
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Post by: object95 on March 02, 2018, 02:27:16 AM
Hello all,

Longtime mac user from the Netherlands here!

gr.
Bas
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Post by: garysome1 on March 03, 2018, 10:09:53 PM
A Mac user since the Plus was new.  I program and make music.  And when I program, it is usually for music.
I just built up a G4 Sawtooth so I could translate between just about anything (IDE, SCSI, floppy, EZ-135, Zip, USB, FW, Classic OS, and OS X through 10.4) so I could retrieve old source code and music files. And that brought me to this fantastic site.

It is surprising to me how much I've enjoyed running the classic OS, running Opcode EZVision (couldn't afford Vision), and checking out great classic applications!
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Post by: Gaz on March 10, 2018, 06:01:35 AM
Hi there! Greetings from North Italy!

It has been a long time since i start reading this forum and comunity, and now with my G4 arriving next week i can join it properly!
Lets hope in a long term relationship  ;D
I never used an apple product, i'm a linux\windows user, but the retro bug has bitten me  -afro-
Thank you all for the plenty of useful information you post!
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Post by: Gaz on March 10, 2018, 06:03:27 AM
Double post
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Post by: scarasyte on March 28, 2018, 10:47:01 PM
Greetings. I'm 37 living in Florida. I owned a Powerbook 180 during my high school years with OS 7.5 as I recall. I recently picked up a iBook G3/900 14'' rather cheap. See my first post for more info on that. It's nice to know theres a thriving community keeping OS9 alive.
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Post by: kfdan on March 29, 2018, 05:10:08 AM
I started with a Classic box ... it was a godsend as I could stop using a typewriter with all the 'white tape' re-type that happened a lot.  Then on to a box-type (forgot the name and number) and finally a G3 which I turned into a monster with a G4 encore and sonnet CPU ... the G3 B&W is sitting right under my desk.  Got some electrical problems on startup so, I've got to go through all the circuits and find the problem.  Apart from that problem, it's still going strong!  OS8.6 has also got issues so, I hope to get the 9.22 installer to clean up the preferences or get a clean install. :D
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Post by: FdB on March 29, 2018, 08:28:52 AM
Welcome. There are a “few” G3s ‘round here and I know of one or two that are
quite possibly salivating over that Sonnet/Encore CPU that you’ve got at your feet.

Detail your machine’s specifics, configuration and the “electrical problems”
and possibly someone may attempt to help you sort them out, if you wish.
Maybe someone’s had similar problem(s)?

And thanks for your FCP offer. It was located. ;)
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Post by: MacNewbie on April 06, 2018, 03:33:36 PM
Hi, Patrick here ... and my decision to use MacOS was a quite a recent one! Let me explain...

For about 25 years, I have been using Linux. Long ago I bought a used NeXT system and loved it, though my Unix knowledge at that point was low - but it was a great system, far ahead of its time.  Ran OK in 16MB, did well with 32MB and beyond that was "amazing" I am told.

I've been using a mix of Windows and Linux for years now, but recently a friend gave me a Tandy 1100FD laptop: 10Mhz NEC V20 chip akin to 8086; with MSDOS 3.3 in ROM along with the Tandy DeskMate apps, with 640KB of RAM.

What a revelation!  I couldn't type faster than the computer could handle and text on screen was snappy. 

Between this, and the realization that all modern hardware and software is compromised (they can do remote surveillance on you), I decided that a decent Mac notebook running MacOS9 would be the right solution for most of my tasks. If I need to I can run Windows or OSX to have a modern browser.  There is just SOOOOO much cruft and wasted CPU cycles and RAM space taken up by new stuff.

I intend to use PhotoShop 7 (I've been getting along fine with PS 6 under Windows) and maybe check out the LivePicture application mentioned by someone, and a few others, for my photography needs (I love landscape photography as a hobby and am trying to get good enough to sell some prints).

MORE v3.1 for outlining (it's pretty good!) and HyperCard for prototyping/scripting/automation, with a view to porting to LiveCode if I have anything worth sharing.

I have access to a full electronics shop and am rebuilding the LiIon battery with new cells. If successful I might turn it into a side-business, since it seems those batteries aren't available new anymore ... ?

I ordered an mSATA SSD and the adapter needed, in order to turn the TiBook 867Mhz into a shock-proof laptop.

Nits: the installer image I used doesn't see the TiBook as an 867Mhz device and I have had a few weird crashes/lockups.  Might do a clean install from the other boot disk images available.
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Post by: FdB on April 06, 2018, 04:14:14 PM
Welcome fellow “Scheimpflug-er”! ;)

Think that you’ve found the “right place”.
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Post by: IIO on April 06, 2018, 05:29:41 PM
we have two options. beeing a subject of remote surveillance or go back to the stone age.
since it is a stone age with nuendo, melodyne, max, sc, kyma and photoshop, it is easy to find the right decision.
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Post by: DieHard on April 06, 2018, 07:55:19 PM
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I ordered an mSATA SSD and the adapter needed, in order to turn the TiBook 867Mhz into a shock-proof laptop.

Good choice, but mSata to IDE runs a little hot... but so does the legacy hard drive
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Post by: macStuff on April 10, 2018, 07:55:13 PM
msata's get hot? ???
how? theres no moving parts?

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9UP3HB9684&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwordsCAMKPL-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwordsCAMKPL-PC-_-pla-_-Accessories+-+Hard+Drive-_-9SIA9UP3HB9684&gclid=CjwKCAjwwbHWBRBWEiwAMIV7E4660P05fzevgBKwRsU8WgMc-LvzEoqNBVkaStIqVaYrYPMZVj5bYxoC8vkQAvD_BwE (https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9UP3HB9684&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwordsCAMKPL-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwordsCAMKPL-PC-_-pla-_-Accessories+-+Hard+Drive-_-9SIA9UP3HB9684&gclid=CjwKCAjwwbHWBRBWEiwAMIV7E4660P05fzevgBKwRsU8WgMc-LvzEoqNBVkaStIqVaYrYPMZVj5bYxoC8vkQAvD_BwE)

i attached some photos of what i think he was using??
so diehard; are u saying u have done a similar solution, and that heat was a problem??

Quote
1. Large storage capacity (8GB)

2. Easy installation

3. Improve boot up and application load times

4. High-speed SATA 6Gb/s (SATA III) interface

5. Backward compatible to SATA 3Gb/s (SATA II)

6. Withstand extreme shock and vibration

7. Support DDR3 I/O interface

8. Power management supported
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Post by: Jubadub on April 11, 2018, 06:52:58 AM
Welcome, MacNewbie! :)

I've been using a mix of Windows and Linux for years now, but recently a friend gave me a Tandy 1100FD laptop: 10Mhz NEC V20 chip akin to 8086; with MSDOS 3.3 in ROM along with the Tandy DeskMate apps, with 640KB of RAM.

Ah, THAT processor. I like it as a nice reminder of the fact that different processors at the same clock speeds can still achieve far different performance levels! (Reasons varying for each case.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEC_V20 "The chip featured much more than the 29,000 transistors of the simpler 8088 CPU, ran at 5 to 10 MHz and was around 30% faster (application dependent) than the 8088 at the same clock speed, primarily due to faster effective address calculation, along with faster loop counters, shift registers and multiplier."

What a revelation!  I couldn't type faster than the computer could handle and text on screen was snappy.

I know what you mean. It makes me curious enough to make me want to obtain one of such machines with such responsiveness! You might want to one day own an Apple IIe, then! https://danluu.com/input-lag/ (Or maybe even an iPad Pro 10.5" pencil, then, I guess. Especially if jailbroken, with terminal access & everything!)
I sure would like one of those for myself, even. Though somehow I don't think that will ever happen. ;D

Between this, and the realization that all modern hardware and software is compromised (they can do remote surveillance on you), I decided that a decent Mac notebook running MacOS9 would be the right solution for most of my tasks. If I need to I can run Windows or OSX to have a modern browser.  There is just SOOOOO much cruft and wasted CPU cycles and RAM space taken up by new stuff.

I commend the OS 9 choice! But while spying is apparently missing on the hardware level, especially on the processor, OS 9 itself is old enough and certainly was popular enough to probably draw enough of NSA & Co.'s attention to find exploits in the OS and keep quiet about them to maintain their surveillance, meaning an air-gapped computer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_gap_(networking)) is quite possibly the only true solution to the problem. (Avoiding Intel, AMD and even certain ARM processors is already one big huge step, though!)
Still, there are billions of many other reasons to use OS 9, nonetheless. :D
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Post by: DieHard on April 11, 2018, 09:28:15 AM
All OWC and other brands that I know of that are legacy Notebook PATA/IDE SSD in any case (that looks like the same size as a notebook HD) are actually mSata with an adapter inside, they get a little hot, but not as hot as a mechanical hard drive.  Normal SATA SSDs run cold, I just wanted to point out that these get almost as hot as a mechanic drive if they are writing a lot of data for those that think they are "cold" like a SATA SSD
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Post by: afewmacs on April 14, 2018, 04:21:29 PM
hi,

Thank you for letting me join you here.

i stumbled across this site on a few occasions in the the last few weeks.

I was googling re DAW issues.

Introduction.

I live in Germany.

I was once upon time a free lance soundman, part owner of a recording studio and also did live gigs, you know the dudes in the middle of the audience at concert twiddling and tweaking so your body quivers like a jelly and tries to make the experience sound good. The studio is no longer necessary, anyone can do it in their bedroom these days or even on their smartphone. Mr jobs & Mr Gates have an awful lot to answer for, I do enjoy the possibilities of Logic X 10.4, even if you HAVE to upgrade the OS to 10.12 to use it.

Strange thing is though 6.4.3 on OS9 works just as well and is easier to use.

after the 2" MCI and mixer plus loads of hardware etc, a customer asked me to organise a studio and teach him how to use it in his cellar, so phase 2 began. 2 black face adats and a 24/8 mixing console, periphery + A performa 430 with Logic notator 1.7, my first experience with a mac and midi, there followed a steep learning curve to get that together and keep it in sync, A Motu midi express I think was used to keep everything together.

While all of this was going on I was interested in the developing audio recording to Mac, i had been in a shop and seen I think a Quadra with protools, mega expensive and at the time I thought very limited, maybe a year later, Logic is there with audio, bought the second audio dongle and a 7600, with a Korg 1212 (adat in and out)

as time went by i found a cheap PC 5400, 44k audio and i could watch TV, go online (whatever happened to AOL ?) and generally have a real good time with it, also put an RME adat card in the PCI slot, macs and music were here to stay.

a few more macs down the line, the 7600 got a G3 processor, current machines

the 2 above

PPC 7300, given to me by another student when he moved on to a Power Mac G4 dual 500.

iMac DV (the 1st mac I used that could realistically edit video and render) this was my daughters 16th birthday present, she gave it back to me a few years ago, couldn't bear to let this cutie out of the family, still in its box.

mac mini  G4 1.25 another give away wasn't working so the couple bought a new one, I fitted a new drive and ram, now running on Tiger, one that could be booted into OS9 from what i read here

dual 867 MDD, a magnificent machine !! so good I got another

dual 1,25 FW800 oops not so good or maybe now

+ 4 i7 4 core Intel in various shapes and sizes.

I am now retired, and have time to play with all this good stuff.

Many forums tell me I am using some ships anchors, Yamaha 02R with yes you guessed by now 3 ADAT cards and a HD24 hardly used from the last studio partnership, Akai sampler, master keyboards and lots of I/O cards and midi interfaces, maybe could have helped some people about 4 years ago

I am cheating right now using Safari with OSX 10.12

I f you guys don't cheat I am sure you are not using Netscape or dare i mention IE the only options I had in the actual OS9 era.

I read about classilla, is that what you guys use to communicate ?

thanks for bearing with me, see you all agin soon. I will find a suitable avatar and sort that some other time
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Post by: IIO on April 14, 2018, 05:44:47 PM
hi & welcome.

yes, classilla is what hopefully everyone uses when he is on mac os 9. other browers are almost useless today.

though i´d doubt that many peope really use MacOS9 to regulary browse the web, it is more an additional option, which is nice to have. for many things online you need at least 10.9 now, since firefox for 10.8 (not to speak of safari) stopped certificate support at some point.

i am using MacOS9 for 90% of my audio work, and some 10.4. and 10.7 for other tasks. since even 10.7 is behind windows - and because of our german electricity fees - i am using mostly a windows laptop to browse the web for some 3 years.

so dont feel like a cheater, at the moment it is still legal to use other things than MacOS9. (this might change when we take over the world government)
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Post by: Otacon on April 17, 2018, 02:51:34 AM
Hi all

Thanks for approving my account.

I got here by having a near-two decade long love affair with old DSP cards, namely the Korg Oasys PCI.

A few years back I found one (again) on Ebay and promptly snatched it up. It lay dormant for a while and I eventually had an old XPC Shuttle case modified to accept the card.

But as anyone familiar with the card knows, the golden ticket for this thing is the development tool named SynthKit, which was only available on the Mac OS platform.

What happened next is that it sat dormant for a year or two whilst we had a couple of kids. I was left some money by way of an inheretence during this period, so I thought WTH, lets buy an old Mac.

I was enamoured with G4 systems when they came out, but had to stick by ye olde Intel platforms for various reasons. After first seeing one on a poster in my college years, I now am sat next to what I believe to be a "Quicksilver" system.

My plan was to use it as some sort of spectacular hyper-rack, by installing my Oasys and my Creamware Pulsar in the same box. It didn't quite work out that way, since Sonic Core released v5.1 of their software. I don't think they have OSX sorted yet, but it was quite a funny email conversation I had with them about getting v3 or v4 working on OS9. They thought I was nuts.

(And I probably am.)

Anyway, I got the Oasys working, loading program's via the software and then controlling the device via my MIDI setup. Despite many attempts with various programs, discs and hacky solutions, I have yet to get the G4 to output any sound, apart from what comes out of the speaker on the front.

A year or two has passed and my setup has been lying dormant, but change is on the horizon. There is some voice work I need to do and my Mrs has ordered me to the attic area with all my gear. I would like to bring the G4 kicking and tunefully screaming into that work, alongside the Oasys. I know it is more than capable of being a bit of a beast for audio work. I use Ableton 9.7 on the PC - some v4 love on the G4 would be a fine thing indeed.

(The noise of the thing is another issue. And it doesn't seem to be an easy fix to quieten the bugger.)

Never used OS9 before this purchase a couple of years back, but I used some of the public threads here to guide me to getting it running. This forum is an invaluable resource. And it is a great OS from what I've seen thus far. I can see why it was highly thought of, especially compared to the competetion at the time.

With this "move", I thought it might be useful to actually register with you lovely folks and the community here. I can't say I can contribute much expertise (beyond my own experiences with OS9 as a relative newbie), but happy to help if and where I can.


Cheers peeps

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Post by: macStuff on April 18, 2018, 10:37:18 AM
cheers! great long intro posts! what an epic thread this is  8)
87000 views + counting!  ;D
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Post by: trag on April 27, 2018, 12:56:42 PM
It's great to find this site.   I've been around and active for a while.   I tried OSX for a while, and I've been using Windows or Linux at work since the early 90s, but I feel as others here do;  nothing has the elegance that System 5 - System 9 had.

I'm not sure how many remember, but during the development of the Macintosh, Apple wrote a book called the "Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines".  This book was built on careful consideration and experimentation to determine what actually works fastest, easiest, and most comfortably for human users.  For many years, Apple stuck pretty closely to those principals.   I think that had a great deal to do with why the old Systems were so wonderful, and why, as they forgot all about the Human Interface Guidelines, the new OSXs are so "Meh".

My Mac history:

Back in '87 my room mate had a Mac 128K that had been upgraded to a 512KE with a 2MB RAM upgrade and a SCSI port daughter card.   He kept it in the living room where all three of us could use it.

In '90 another friend left me his Plus and IWII in his will.

Around '92 I bought seven Outbound Laptop Model 125s at the CompuAdd going out of business sale.  Sold most of them, but kept one. 

(https://www.prismnet.com/~trag/Outbound/MVC-682F.JPG)

https://www.prismnet.com/~trag/Outbound/ (https://www.prismnet.com/~trag/Outbound/)

Around '94 I bought a IIci at a police auction.

I've been active in Mac Fora since the early 90s.  First on UseNet in the comp.sys.mac.* hierarchy.  Then on PowerWatch, LEMLists, DealNews (when they had a forum), XLR8yourmac.com (ditto), and most recently on 68kmla.org.

I authored an article on converting the Adaptec 2940UW for PCs into a PowerDomain 2940UW for  Macs which was published on XLR8yourmac.com.   

Another article on Marc Schrier's Clock Chipping Home Page about converting the 66MHz Turbo601 to 96MHz.   

A variety of small guides on moving the Umax S900 (or J700) logic board into ATX accomodations.  One of which is on Kennedy Brandt's SuperMac Insider site.

In the early 2000s I cloned a bunch of Rev. C Beige G3 ROM modules (laid out circuit boards, programmed and soldered chips) for people with Rev. A ROMs (no slave support).  Incidentally creating a pinout for the Apple ROM module used from the PMX100 through the Beige G3, including all X500, X600, and 7200.

A few years later I built a bunch of 16MB SIMMs for the Mac IIfx.

At one point I tried and failed to create an adapter to let Macintosh CPU cards be used in the ANS (Apple Network Server).   Might take another hack at it some day, but the X500 CPU socket connector is impossible to find.

Lately, (last decade) my projects have been stalled with child rearing, home-owning, baseball coaching, and similar real life stuff.

After a couple of decades of being a die hard Mac user at home, OSX made me so indifferent (and Windows improved enough) that I now use Win7 laptops for home internet access.   The main machine at my desk at home is still a Umax S900 with volumes for System 7.6.1, 8.6 and 9.1.   And I  check email with Classilla.

I have two FW400 MDDs, a single 1.25GHz and a dual 1.25GHz.   And an 800MHz 17" G4 iLamp, which were the last machines in their classes to run System 9.

I also have a G4 Mini on which I'm looking forward to installing System 9.

My only OSX machines, at this point are some Dell Latitude laptops which run OSX thanks to https://osxlatitude.com/ (https://osxlatitude.com/)
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Post by: mrhappy on April 28, 2018, 07:54:12 AM
Sounds like you're in pretty deep there trag!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Krysta on May 03, 2018, 11:28:33 AM
Hey, I'm mostly an artist and a gamer.  :)

My first computers were an Apple //e, inherited from my mom, and a 286 later 386sx, upgraded so we could get on the Internet.  Oh the excitement of 14.4k and Mosaic in 1994. :)

I inherited an LC 575 from a school sale, and later convinced our parents to buy a Fruity iMac at the turn of the century.  OS9 is still my favorite OS ever, and I used to use it with MIDIGraphy for my MIDI sequencing stuff, until I was forced to move and have no space to set up a workstation.  Currently sloughing with music on Windows :)

Still have the iMac and set it up for gaming every once in a blue moon.  The LC 575 has long since departed from this world.

Nice to meet you all. :)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on May 03, 2018, 07:49:02 PM
Currently sloughing with music on Windows :)


We feel for ya!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: macStuff on May 04, 2018, 05:24:22 AM
if your doing music on windows;
make sure you check out Cakewalk by Bandlab
Cakewalk Sonar purchased by another company and pricing model changed to FREE!
i'm actually really impressed with it

https://blog.bandlab.com/cakewalk-by-bandlab-press-release/
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: kimpira on May 12, 2018, 02:44:40 AM
hi! I recently dug my old grape imac out of the garage and started fixing it up. It's now got a 60gb SSD and 512MB of memory. Now I'm looking for other cool things to do with it!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on May 12, 2018, 08:23:51 AM
hi! I recently dug my old grape imac out of the garage and started fixing it up. It's now got a 60gb SSD and 512MB of memory. Now I'm looking for other cool things to do with it!

Excellent!! Poking around here should give you LOTS of ideas! ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: DevEd on July 19, 2018, 12:05:08 PM
Hello, my name is Edward, but you may call me DevEd. I've been around Macs since I was a kid. I don't think I've really used Mac OS 9 specifically (most of the Macs when I was in school ran OS X, with the exception of a few older machines which ran System 7 I think) but I am looking to change that :)

I currently own an iMac G4, a Mac Mini G4 (I think) and a PowerMac G5. Wish I could install OS 9 on the G5 :/ guess Classic will have to do for now...

Unfortunately I don't think I have much else to say in my introductory post, other than I look forward to seeing what I can do with OS 9. Maybe I'll take a crack at some OS 9 programming, who knows?

EDIT: I have no idea if this is the right place, if it isn't can a mod please put this post in the right place?
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on July 19, 2018, 09:49:05 PM
I have no idea if this is the right place?

You're in the right place now DevEd!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: TheGrandPubaa on July 21, 2018, 10:02:57 PM
Hi fellow Mac enthusiasts.

I'll do the tl;dr version of my history with the Macintosh. iMac G3 600mhz in 2003 was my first Mac I bought on eBay for $600. Parents got me an iBook G4 1.2ghz in 2004 that I used for some 5+ years but is currently somewhat in pieces and in an unknown state of functionality. In 2009/2010, I bought a Macbook Pro 2.66ghz C2D I used as my daily driver and Final Cut workstation for years and I still keep running as my iTunes library for the moment, but it has several problems and is feeling slow and tired. I've somewhat transitioned to a Dell PowerEdge T310 as my daily driver that I picked up for $20 dollars sans HDD and which I somewhat souped up with 4.5 TB of HDD space, a compatible video card, sound device, upgraded CPU(3GHZ Xeon), and 12 GB of RAM.

With that out of the way, I sort of caught the OS 9 bug again since I didn't have a whole lot of chance to use it back when I had my iMac G3 since OS X Panther was still current and supported and I couldn't even boot it up with my iBook G4. So, I agonized over which inexpensive OS 9 compatible Mac to grab that would satisfy - at least for the moment - my urge to play with OS 9 more directly. I've been smitten by the iMac G4 ever since I first saw it in a commercial, but the performance and iffy OS 9 compatibility between models, not to mention the price overall, gave me pause. I thought about trying to find a deal on one of the tower Macs, but I didn't want to spend over $100 initially on an otherwise pointless(speaking of practical usage in 2018) endeavor, particularly with my choices being a solid but slow tower like the Sawtooth or the faster but loud and less reliable MDD.

I settled on a Mac Mini 1.25ghz for around $50 with a 1GB ram stick. This seemed to resolve the price/performance quandary nicely, and since it is now possible to boot what appears to be a pretty stable version of OS 9, my hope is that it can hold me over while I decide whether to pursue building a collection of other Macs. I think I want to try using it for games, obviously, but also perhaps some lighter productivity; maybe even Photoshop work or tinker around with an old version of Final Cut Pro. Any sort of semi-practical use for the hardware that I can shoehorn in would be great and wouldn't make me feel like I was wasting money pursuing buying more OS 9 compatible Macs, haha. I'm looking forward to diving in when it arrives by the end of this week.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: d97 on July 24, 2018, 12:20:00 PM
I feel that this is my third "go around" for OS9.  I used OS9 back when it was "the" MacOS ... running a G3 Beige 300 MiniTower that was eventually upgraded with a Sonnet G4 chip.  I am a hobbiest musician and was primarily running Digital Performer using an Emagic Audio card via ASIO with a handful of hardware rackmounted synths.  I loved Bitheadz Unity DS-1 and Retro AS-1 as soft synths.

Those two synths and the sudden availability of cheap 80s and 90s synths on craigslist were responsible for my second "go around" in 2010 - I dug up a G4 from somewhere and successfully rebuilt my OS9 recording system - only this time I had a whole bunch more synths to manage using FreeMidi.  It seemed as though there wasn't much of a community at the time and, for whatever reason, I stopped using the system shortly after I rebuilt it.  That particular G4 is long gone but I did pull the hard drive and kept it around.  That time seems like a bit of a golden age for 90s / early 2000s hardware - I remember picking up used 2408s, digi001s and other high end audio cards for almost nothing.  Unfortunately, I didn't keep much of it and I actually have no idea where most of it went.  (I did keep most of the synths, though).

A couple of weeks ago, I was bitten again by the synth bug after finding a rackmount Roland M3R (basically an M1 in a box) for $60.  Since then, I have been scouring craigslist and adding the odd synth here and there.  I managed to acquire a G4 400mhz (yeah, I'm looking for something with a little more power) and pulled my harddrive from 2010 out and popped it in.  It booted up right away and now I'm back in business with Digital Performer, Unity DS-1 and Retro AS-1.  I also have a Logic Pro (?) or at least a 6.4.3 xskey and think that I want to get back into Sample CDs and the EXS24.   I found that I still had my 2408 and have decided that, no matter how much my interests change, I am keeping all the stuff this time. 

I am really glad that this site is here and, although I have only scratched the surface of the information that's here, I really appreciate all the knowledge that's here.

D.
 
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: macStuff on July 25, 2018, 01:59:42 PM
d97: its great to read your intro :) good luck with your projects!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: P1ni0n on August 17, 2018, 05:21:36 AM
Hi everyone and thank you for let me join.
I’m a musician (trombone player), but interested in electronic music since I can remember.
Started with a C-64, and then an Amiga 500 that got me into music, and after that an Amiga 2000 and a 1200 thats still working.
In the 2000s got my first Mac, a Powermac G4 400 that broke long time ago and that brings me here, since I have a mac mini G4 that I want to give it a try with Os9, and thinking of buying another Powermac G4 to use with my Akai S3000XL via SCSI
In the present I have my studio set up with an iMac with OSX Mavericks and logic and yes everything works fine, but where’s the fun in that?!!
Greets
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on August 17, 2018, 06:45:30 AM

I’m a musician (trombone player)

A trombone player??? I thought you said you were a musician??? Haha... just kidding of coarse! ;D Anyone that can work one of those 'pitch approximators' is OK by Me!!

Welcome aboard! Lots of interesting action going on around here these days with the miniG4... plan on grabbing one myself.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Curly on August 20, 2018, 05:24:02 PM
Hi !

I´m Curly!

My friend Protools5LEGuy talks me about this site...

Have a couple of old G4

One dual 1Ghz QuckSilver and One 1.25 Ghz MirrorDrive

I would love to bring back to life again!!

I work in Dj´n & Music production. ( Since 92 with Amiga 500+ )

Kind Regards.

C
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on August 20, 2018, 08:24:05 PM

One dual 1Ghz QuckSilver and One 1.25 Ghz MirrorDrive


Yes... a couple of worthy machines there! ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Koderkev on August 27, 2018, 02:27:15 PM
Greetings, and thanks for adding me! Like @DieHard I used to work in IT and used Windows (mostly) at work. But at home, I've been an Apple guy since 1986 when I bought my //e. Prior to that I'd had a Colecovision game unit that I added the ADAM expansion to. It was my first computer. But once I got into Apple, I never looked back.
When the IIgs came out, I traded in the //e for it. But my first Mac was, like @MacTron, an LC (the "pizza box"). Over the years I've owned a Mac Plus, an SE, a 512 KE, an LC II, a blueberry iMac, a sage iMac DV, 2 G4 towers (MDD and DA), 2 Mini's (2009 and 2011), a iBook G3, and now an iBook G4! I use my current Mini for my daily machine, but just bought the G4 laptop on eBay for...$15 + $20 shipping. And the iBook is in fantastic shape. It was obviously owned by someone that loved it.
I got the iBook because I wanted to run my old OS 9 games. They had been sitting on my shelf collecting dust. I have Jack Nicklaus 4, Breakout, Firefall, Quake 2,3 & 4, and others. I'm so glad I found this site! Looking forward to getting to know you all and learn some things!
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: ansil002 on September 08, 2018, 06:24:33 PM
Hello, there,

I have get powerbook g4 1.0 17"(as we knew that machine may boot os 9 on native).

So I will dive the forums deeply to get the informations.

Thanks,


Kind Regards,
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on September 08, 2018, 08:54:36 PM
Greetings, and thanks for adding me!

Hey Koderkev! Looks like you've been through quite a few Macs!! Welcome aboard. ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on September 08, 2018, 08:58:15 PM

I have get powerbook g4 1.0 17"

Hey there ansil002! I've got one of those PowerBook 1ghz/ 17 too and put OS9 on it. You should be able to have some fun with it! ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: CountZero on October 02, 2018, 02:20:28 AM
Hullo,

stumbled across this board whilst trying (unsuccessfully) to locate a correct disc set for my G4 MDD DP, somehow the set I have seems to be for a single processor machine so no joy in installing anything other than X on it :(
Quite keen to get it up and running again and back to a dual-boot machine.

I've been using Macs since the late 80's in a graphic design/DTP capacity, but have not used them for the last 10yrs or so since redundancy stopped that career. Afraid most of my knowledge is well out of date or rusty.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: FdB on October 02, 2018, 07:29:27 AM
Welcome!

Sounds very familiar. Whether you were personally  in “extended sleep mode” or “shut down completely” from the Mac realm… you most certainly qualify for the RvWGAF here (Rip-vanWinkle-Graphic-Arts-Faction).

Your MDD… a single, two-partitioned HD, or multiple HDs? (Big on OS segregation ‘round here.)

Once you’ve whichever version of OS X you prefer up and running (or even just what you have now)… download the Universal 9.2.2 and install that on a second partition… or an “alternate” HD.

Without the original Install Disc set for your MDD... under NO circumstance should you completely wipe a working OS X from that machine (unless you've got it backed up). I have done just that on a similar MDD DP in the past... and could then only install OS 9.

Universal 9.2.2 Install… here: http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,2109.0.html
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Dave 23 on October 02, 2018, 01:29:26 PM
Hiya's-  I'm a guitar player (don't laugh..)
          After buying a Bondwell B200 "laptop" (suitcase more like)and managed to run Voyetra I was hooked. I built my first (of several)  PCs early 90's- 3megs ram!
   (I remember waiting hrs for an AOL page to load.. :) Had a small windfall late 90's and splashed out on a 500MHz G3 Powerbook (Pismo?) my first Mac- never looked back.
     Having been on Logic (on PC) since v2.4 I was in heaven. LAP 6.4.1? ...OMFG. Not so happy when I upgraded to Al power book/ OSX. and discovered I'd been locked out of my software investments...grrr. Honeymoon over. Upgraded periodically over the years, I now have an eMac 700MHz, Al Powerbook G4 1Ghz,
  2006 MBP 17" C2D, 2007 MacPro Quad Core (My current DAW), a dead 13'MBP, a dead 2007 MBP C2D 17", a dead 2007 C2D Mac mini, a dead 2007 20" iMac,
   a 2007 24" iMac (typing this on) and my latest treasure- a 1.42 G4 Mac mini running ..OS 9.2.2...flawlessly!
     I just can't seem to pass up an old Mac- half the above machines were being thrown out, I only really use: the 24" iMac for internet, the Mac Pro for DAW.
  UNTIL I was given the G4 mini...running LAP .6.4.1+ Rebirth, slaved to my DAW running Reason 10.
   Decided to buy up any Mac mini G4's I find for the future...

    Very grateful to everybody who's made this forum possible it's goldmine of resources and expertise!

          Cheers y'all.

p.s. I just installed Win XP via Virtual PC 6 on the Mini G4 Os9 machine. Was effortless...compared to the two fruitless weeks spent trying to (unsuccessfully) install on either current mac via Deathcamp. Modern Apple sux, imho.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: vid1616 on October 02, 2018, 02:00:07 PM
Hello

Glad to be a 'new' member to this forum. Can't believe I just found you, (while searching for a CZ101 editor). A quick blurb about me. Musician. Audio engineer, (home studio). Electronics enthusiast. Love gear, (especially old lofi gear...lots of Casios, PAIA, etc). Avid reader of manuals and Tape Op magazine. Enjoy walks on the beach or cat litter boxes....whichever is closer. Have a smattering of older software for OS9.2, such as DAWs bias Deck 2.7.1 & 3.0 and Peak-le; Emagic Logic Express; Arturia Storm plus a few others. Also a number of utility disks; Disk Warrior, Toast, etc. Have my original OS 9 disk and still have an up and running G4 PowerPC. My main computers are primarily circa 2008 iMac and MacBook Intel Core 2 Duo both running OS 10.6.8, although they are getting a little bumpy on the internet train.

You can listen to 'some' of my music at https://www.reverbnation.com/billman
(Desperately needs updating...)

Anyway....glad to be here. Feel free to drop me a line.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: macStuff on October 02, 2018, 03:29:42 PM
Have my original OS 9 disk and still have an up and running G4 PowerPC. My main computers are primarily circa 2008 iMac and MacBook Intel Core 2 Duo both running OS 10.6.8, although they are getting a little bumpy on the internet train.

i still use a 2008 imac (6gb ram) and MBP Core2Duo 2010 (16gb ram)
both running mavericks 10.9.5
im just looking into upgrading the wifi adapters to support 802.11AC protocol.
i have been using them wired to wireless pods provided to me by my isp made by plume/sagemcom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RJz37Av73I www.sagemcom.com/press-events/press-release/detail-view/news/sagemcom-and-plume-partner-to-offer-an-adaptive-self-optimising-home-wi-fi-solution-to-broadband-se/

great machines still!
but i think i will go out and get 2014-2018 machine very soon.
new + old computers are great. if u are skilled + versed in all the info + possessing the software + hardware required to make proper use of them that is.. (easier said than done)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mrhappy on October 03, 2018, 08:24:24 AM

 I just found you, (while searching for a CZ101 editor)

Still have a few CZ's around here someplace... a CZ5000, CZ-1 and a sampling drum machine RZ?... not sure about those numbers tho! Haven't done any midi in quite awhile but have been threatening to hook all that stuff up again, as soon as my 50 gallon drum of IBProfin arrives!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: marco22 on October 16, 2018, 02:38:01 PM
hello to all!
thank you for letting me into this friendly environment.

My name is Marco and i like to make music and build stringed instruments.

In the past i quite didn't like computers, until somebody showed me they could be used for music making, much like a multitrack recorder.
From that moment on i was hooked. Unfortunately the only computers i could get my hands on were win98 and the like, with no dedicated sound card and very little ram,
and to hear about how wonderful macs are at this things made me even more frustrated.
I am by no means a geek or expert, in fact i have been using windows and mac's in the modern way, without knowing much at all.
Last year i came across a G5, intel based, it runs also OS9 in classic mode, so i hope to learn something around here.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mhelin on October 22, 2018, 11:45:45 AM
Hello all! Hacking with all old hardware and software, nothing special except that music apps and DAWs are my main interest.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: MacJay on November 07, 2018, 12:27:22 PM
Hi Everyone,

I'm MacJay, and I have been working with Macs since the mid 1980s. I have to say, this site is great! You guys have worked really hard to provide a lot of excellent resources to those of use who still use and love OS 9.

Thanks, it's great to be here!

MacJay
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: radicaldreamer on November 18, 2018, 06:53:23 PM
Hi everyone,

Like many of you, my first machine was an Apple (II). I have fond memories of gaming on Macs in elementary school and playing Spaceward Ho! and SimCity.

I ended up using DOS in high school and programmed music using sequencers (Impulse Tracker, Modplug). I went through a Windows phase, for gaming, then turned to Linux because it made using a computer fun again.

I missed out on a lot of Mac culture which many of you have, experiences with Mac OS 8/9, as I only started using Macs about 8 years ago with OS X. Which I also turned away from and went back to Linux (installed Linux on my white Macbook) because of the software community and that I could make using a computer fun again by changing the icons, background, window dressing, etc. But I really appreciate the design aesthetics of the older Macs -- I often have dreams where I'm using some kind of desktop computer with a form factor that looks like a classic "pizza box" Mac.

I do not have any desire to buy a "modern" Mac as the OS experience has fallen to unacceptable standards, in my opinion, and the prices are insulting. I've collected and read books on Apple's design guidelines, including other UX / UI books, and Apple no longer follows its own design spirit (in my opinion).

I do have an iPhone, because I don't know how to break the OS, and it reliably does what I want it to do, with very good battery life.

I recently purchased a tangerine iBook G3 (standard config) and intend to do application development for Mac OS 9. My main expertise is with Python, so I will probably start with Lua and work backwards to C. I am sure I'm in for a world of hurt and steep learning curve ;) I think one of my first apps will be a blogging app that can connect to Wordpress and use other APIs. Another would be a software repository application / free "app store" where users can download classic programs, in addition to other free software for Macs.

I'm a software developer by day, with a background in arts and have worked for a number of startups. I just started a new job so I will probably not start on app development until the new year.

Thanks everyone for creating this community. Looking forward to being part of it.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Europa on November 19, 2018, 05:37:43 PM
Hello! :D

Thank you for approving my account. I'll be honest in that I had never really done a whole lot with Mac OS 9 and earlier until a few years ago when I found a Power Mac G4 Digital Audio at a garage sale. After that I was hooked!    ;D

I use it whenever possible and have found that it has come in very handy when trying to play older video games and run older software. I'd like to eventually get a Mac OS 9 DAW set up, but that is not a reality at this point in time.

I look forward to many fun times to come on this forum!  :D
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: mika_z on December 11, 2018, 01:17:02 PM
Hello everyone! I am a 34 year old PC/ Linux user, and I finally got myself an iMac g3! It is all new to me so I have lots of reading to do. Glad I found you :)
Title: Introduction
Post by: Kris on December 12, 2018, 10:33:00 AM
Hello everyone,
I'm a new member of this great community und would like to introduce myself.
Being a self-taught musician and producer I fell in love with Macs in 2001 when I saw 'ableton live' running on a Powerbook G4 at the MusikMesse Frankfurt /Germany.
My first mac was a 2002 Powerbook G4 667 DVI that I bought used in 2003. It had a new price of around 3750€ and I paid a staggering 2100€ for it. :o
Since then it was an exciting journey and I never felt that it was a bad decision to rely on Macs.
Because I am not a fan of the worlds largest companies, it gave me mixed feelings seeing Apple grow, grow and grow even faster over the years..
I consider myself to be a fan of most Apple PCs until 2012, but never a fan of Apples policies and other products. I do not own a smart phone, but I am smart.
Certainly there are still some great current machines, but the fact that everything is glued together in recent products just makes me sick for many reasons.
Furthermore I found it hard to take and very questionable that Apple immediately stopped supporting Logic for IBM-compatible machines shortly after they bought Emagic.
I am frequently working on two Macs at the moment, a 2009 Mac Pro 8-Core 2,26GHz Xeon and a 2012 MacBook Pro 15" Hi Res with a 2,3GHz i7.
I am planning to upgrade the Mac Pro as soon as possible.
Since I know that macos9lives exists I am very excited and looking forward to get into os9 again, also making use of the Logic 6 Platinum license & dongle I bought 15 years ago. Within the last year I bought three G4s for a very low price and can't wait to have enough time to take care of them: two Dual 1,25 MDDs and a Titanium PowerBook 1,0Ghz are waiting.
I am happy that macos9lives is there to support us joining forces, learning, helping each other.
Let's not forget that not throwing away but using old stuff that is still working is also a question of sutainability, and (life) style; old things can be very inspiring for me..
macos9lives is therefore a matter of good taste in my opinion.
Thanks a lot to whoever contributes!
Cheers,
Kris
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: pierino23 on December 30, 2018, 01:56:49 PM
Hi guys,

nice to be here with you all.
I use my Mac SE for my thesis at the university and some software projects.
Later I moved to wintel for my job. Now I'm using a MacBook Air at home with a OSX 10.13.6

BUT ... a few months ago I found my old SE in the basement, the Macbook 190 and the G3 Wallstreet 233.
I felt in love! I bought a Mac II on eBay and I started to restore them all.
I'm buying RAM, Floppy Emu, HD, PCMCIA/FC, IDE to FC ... :D

It's a nice way to spend some time in this way :) even if I lost my dexterity and I'm too slow.
I'll probably need the help and support of the community,

all the best "guys"

best
Pierfranco
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: classicmacreborn7 on January 06, 2019, 02:18:53 PM
Hi all!

I'm new to these forums, but I sometimes post on emaculation.

I've been playing with OS9 development & emulation for a few years now.  Lately I've been working on Finder replacement called "WrapperFinder" that launches an application after startup, and issues a shutdown call when the application is quit.  It will allow you to make a seamless wrapper for an application that works much better than running a launcher in AppleScript that shuts down or using Startup Items.  It will be a lot more reliable, as Startup Items has a tendency of breaking aliases, and a replacement Finder prevents the Finder and the user from making changes to the OS and accidentally causing the app to destabilize.  It also reduces boot time- very important for a wrapper.

I've been building in Codewarrior/C and MPW.  It has to issue direct calls to the Toolbox without the Finder, so I've had my head buried in Inside Macintosh quite a bit as of late.

OS9 has become kind of an obsession for me.  I get to relive my childhood machines, dig up a bunch of old references and documentation.  I feel like an archaeologist for Macs.  When I first started playing with SheepShaver back in the day I was actually able boot into my old iMac which has been in storage for 10 or 15 years (the HDD actually lasted that long!!) and see everything back the way it was when it was when I was a kid.  After that, I was 100% hooked.

I really hope to spend a lot of time on these forums.  I've been getting back into OS9 lately.

Another one of my most recent projects is a simple set of scripts that allow communication back and forth between the guest OS (os9) and the host OS (OSX in my case, but it could be rewritten to be cross-platform quite easily).  I'll clean it up at some point and post the source files on GitHub.  It's not a whole lot of code actually.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: macbruce on January 12, 2019, 02:01:44 AM
Found this site when I was trying to run a classic tomb raider on an imac g3. It now wants the master CD and it is around here someplace. I gotta clear out this last century apple stuff. My kids will just recycle it.

I like working with the old hardware as remembering the old technical knowledge brings back other pleasant memories.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: masonh on February 17, 2019, 03:56:52 PM
Good day. I joined because I felt that there were some OS9 VST instruments that might give a different feel to the music I make. I thought it would be fun to explore these older instruments again in the context of my new, mostly analog setup.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: cab1787 on March 24, 2019, 10:29:52 AM
Hi all!

I'm new to these forums, but I sometimes post on emaculation.

I've been playing with OS9 development & emulation for a few years now.  Lately I've been working on Finder replacement called "WrapperFinder" that launches an application after startup, and issues a shutdown call when the application is quit.  It will allow you to make a seamless wrapper for an application that works much better than running a launcher in AppleScript that shuts down or using Startup Items.  It will be a lot more reliable, as Startup Items has a tendency of breaking aliases, and a replacement Finder prevents the Finder and the user from making changes to the OS and accidentally causing the app to destabilize.  It also reduces boot time- very important for a wrapper.

I've been building in Codewarrior/C and MPW.  It has to issue direct calls to the Toolbox without the Finder, so I've had my head buried in Inside Macintosh quite a bit as of late.

OS9 has become kind of an obsession for me.  I get to relive my childhood machines, dig up a bunch of old references and documentation.  I feel like an archaeologist for Macs.  When I first started playing with SheepShaver back in the day I was actually able boot into my old iMac which has been in storage for 10 or 15 years (the HDD actually lasted that long!!) and see everything back the way it was when it was when I was a kid.  After that, I was 100% hooked.

I really hope to spend a lot of time on these forums.  I've been getting back into OS9 lately.

Another one of my most recent projects is a simple set of scripts that allow communication back and forth between the guest OS (os9) and the host OS (OSX in my case, but it could be rewritten to be cross-platform quite easily).  I'll clean it up at some point and post the source files on GitHub.  It's not a whole lot of code actually.

Wish I was technically as adept with macs as I should be after using them for 30 years.

I was getting pretty good at dealing with mac os until osx came along, then classic, wherein there was nothing to do with the system folder any longer.  Lost all that knowledge about extensions etc.  But, I do see some familiarity and find I have a need to run the legacy software I have.

I have a program called Landesign, for surveying, which is precision coordinate geometry software with an excellent GUI.  I use it for fabrication design as well.  I'm finding there is literally nothing made that is as versatile and easy to use.  I still have a 2005 G5 that has it running, but that machine will not do a data transfer to my data collector.  I still use a 1993 powermac for that, I cross my fingers every time I boot it up.  I use kermit and it works flawlessly, but it seems not to work with machines that do not have serial ports and I've not found an alternative.

To diversify the ability to use this software I bought an 2001 macbook off of ebay and am trying to get either 10.4.1 with classic installed or 9.2.2.   No luck with what I've downloaded so far.  Don't remember where I go this, but not sure how to use it.

Mac_OS_9.2.2_Update.smi.bin

Then an update from this site.

MacOSXUpdate10.4.1.dmg

Perhaps I did not partition right or something.  I used the G5 to do that and I read the drivers are right for the task, but no go.

Hoping to find some guidance here to get things working

 
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Post by: DieHard on March 25, 2019, 09:52:49 AM
Cab1787...

Please post any help you need in the right section and I am sure you will get a response:

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/board,22.0.html
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: OS923 on March 26, 2019, 06:19:06 AM
A G5 should be fine to transfer everything to everything.
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Post by: Bo_Star on April 02, 2019, 12:56:47 PM
Hello and Thx for Adding Me to The Group. I fist started using OS 9 on a iMac I bought in 1999. Then on a iMac I bought in Dec 2000. When OS X came out  I did n't like it So I used it till 2005. I nolonger Have the iMacs fist one burnt in a Fire and the second one The CTR went out. I've been Using a mini and a Sawtooth For Years. I haven't used the Sawtooth in 8 years But did pick up another Mini like my 05 PPC one. I used the mini till 2013 When I bought a MBA. Now I want to go Back to OS9 To use some apps for My Kurzweil and Opcode Studio 64X. My Sawtooth is Giving me some Problems atm. But My 2nd mini is Clear. and I seen a video Where a mini had native os9.2 running and this fourm has an artical on it. So here I am.
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Post by: kgllewellyn on April 26, 2019, 12:19:24 AM
Hello,

Thought I would post a 'hello' here. Been a long time Mac OS 9 (and Mac OS 8/System 7.x) user since I was a kid. Got a somewhat sizable Mac collection here going from the Mac 512k all the way to a Mid-2012 MBP with plenty in between!

I found this forum though testing and experimenting with the patched Mac OS ROM that allows us to now boot OS 9 on unsupported machines. Really incredible developments, I just wish I had that 15 years ago! Would have been super handy to have it for when apps didn't work under Classic on my 12" 867Mhz PowerBook G4, which ofc couldn't boot OS 9 at the time.

Anyway, just want to say thanks for setting up an awesome forum!
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Post by: chrom on April 28, 2019, 07:17:02 AM
Hello
This is David from Hungary.
I have a few G4 (B&W upgraded to G4, 733 QS, 933 QS, 1,25 MDD 2003 (waiting for a donor 2x867 MDD, because of the PSU).

Used to work on a Beige G3 for years in the early 2000s, and missed that times.
From the OS X era everything much complicated. Love that times, and need to keep alive my PowerMacs.

Best
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Post by: moritz on April 28, 2019, 02:03:14 PM
Hi to you all ,
I'm Maurizio " moritz " from Lucca - Italy , I'm here because I had the chance to buy old G3 and G4 for parts at a ridiculous price  just to find out that they were still working  8) , I've been a professional musician for almost 25 years but I needed to make a change so the year 2000 saw my last "exhibition" . . but music is not an option and I love her too much so thanks to technology and computers I'm now able to play and record in my room , I use MacPro 3.1 and 2.1 but I also like to go back in time and use the G3 and G4 . . this site is like a gold mine for OS 9 related softwares , my thanks and respect to all the people here that keep it alive  ;)
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Post by: jariseon on May 02, 2019, 01:31:36 PM
hi all,

just bought a G4 MDD 2003 at a really reasonable price. OSX and Classic installation worked well, but no matter what i tried, could not make it to boot OS9. then burned macos9lives universal 922 cd, installed with it, and now the machine finally boots directly to OS9. that is very cool, many thanks for making the cd available!

my first mac was SE/30. i do miss old school DAWs and midi apps from the 80's and 90's, and would like to re-learn why they work(ed) so well. modern DAWs can do amazing things, but sometimes i feel they've become more like complex audio editors. looking forward to start making music again, and possibly even some retro coding. now on OS9 :)

thanks again,
jari
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Post by: MacFox on May 10, 2019, 01:58:20 PM
Hello all,

I discovered this place via a google search and I have found a lot of helpful info here, so I decided to join.  My OS 9 machines are a Power Macintosh G4 Sawtooth with a 1.5 ghz CPU upgrade and an iBook G3 500 mhz dual USB model.  Other macs I own include a Centris 650 running System 7.5.5, an SE running System 6.0.8 and a Powerbook G3 PDQ running OS 8.6.

Thanks,

MacFox
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Post by: jezza on May 28, 2019, 03:14:27 AM
Morning all, quick howdy do.

Mac user since System 7.0.1 (I think) on ye olde LC475  mainly ran 7.5.5 if memory serves. .. Didn't really use Mac OS8 but lived on Mac OS9 on a 9600 for yonks after it was after it was laid to rest. (Also dual booting with OS8 an install of BeOS, just for laughs)

Currently Tiger with Classic on a Titanium G4, Snow Leopard on a slightly hard worked White PowerBook, El Capitan on a MacBook Pro with a dead internal graphics card - using an external Apple monitor , and High Sierra - on a snazzy works machine I have 'borrowed'.


I may.. if I can muster the patience, give the G4 Tiger machine the OS 9 treatment - Hence me popping by here.

Cheers folks...  see you on the board.

:)
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Post by: sirenamusic on June 22, 2019, 12:21:15 PM
I had to re register on this website as I couldn't recall my old username or password. I just can't seem to give up my first Mac. PPC G4 MDD. I installed an SSD with IDE adapter into it and want to install a copy of OS 9.2.2 on it along with a DAW such as LP6, and an editor like FCP3. I'm using a Cinema display 22" and maybe in the future I'll also have some sound sticks. I probably should also replace the fans as they're noisy and sound like a mosquito is in the room.
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Post by: BohemianCoast on June 23, 2019, 08:15:18 AM
Hi everyone. I have become the person that my mates give their old Macs to when cleaning out the garage or moving to Stockholm or whatever; I get them back to peak condition and then try to find them good homes. I currently have three Titanium G4 Powerbooks in the pile and it struck me that they all ought to be able to dual boot Leopard (using Leopard assist in two cases) and OS9. Some days later, here I am...

Thanks for a great site!
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Post by: ariansheets on June 26, 2019, 11:56:31 AM
Hello all, I am a curator at the National Music Museum and am here for DAW topics. I have a Mac II for which I am interested in sourcing sequencing software. It is on OS 6.0.7. Any help appreciated!
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Post by: resynthesis on July 12, 2019, 02:36:31 PM
Thanks for making it possible to resuscitate 4 old G4's (2 x PB, 1 x QS, 1 x B&W) and turn them into 9.2.2 afterburners, just dropped $100 into the jvbonanno-cookie-jar. The main goal has been to reacquire the tools to edit sort-of-ancient MIDI-synths, primarily for the Yamaha VL1 and the Hartmann Neuron, but even for all the others the Diver can handle. It all works so far! Great success!
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Post by: DieHard on July 13, 2019, 11:09:23 AM
Thanks for making it possible to resuscitate 4 old G4's (2 x PB, 1 x QS, 1 x B&W) and turn them into 9.2.2 afterburners, just dropped $100 into the jvbonanno-cookie-jar. The main goal has been to reacquire the tools to edit sort-of-ancient MIDI-synths, primarily for the Yamaha VL1 and the Hartmann Neuron, but even for all the others the Diver can handle. It all works so far! Great success!

Diehard says many thanks for this support !

This site created for people who were on a very limited budget (who cannot donate in $$, but in thought and spirit), so that old Macs could be acquired from scrap yards (or cheaply on craigslist) and turned into "Gold"... but this is very appreciated
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Post by: kim on July 29, 2019, 11:26:57 PM
Hi

Thought it was time for the intro post  :)

My first classic Mac was a 128K bought on the "Own a Mac" scheme. I was working as hardware and software support for a Apple dealer at the time and we got offered the deal which was a 128K Mac (System 1.0, Macwrite and MacPaint), Imagewriter printer and carry bag for $A2228. I've had a variety of Apple's gear over the years. Got really disillusioned with the current lack of backward compatibility and pulled out my Dual 1GHz Quicksilver recently. It has pride of place on my desk, and my MacBook Pro gets pulled out for Photo editing and to be an internet appliance. Made me remember how much I enjoyed the Mac so I've been acquiring a few more older systems - although I already had some. I have the Quicksilver set up with 1.5GB of Ram, 120GB SSD and 1TB second drive. Still a great responsive machine in Mac OS 9.2 or 10.4.

Recently acquired a couple of TiBooks. One is a 500MHz original model and came without a hard drive or the cable to connect one. The other is an excellent condition 1GHz machine which I am also really enjoying. I have an M.2 SSD and adaptor, and a new battery on order for it. I've tried rebuilding the battery for the 500MHz but have had limited success. Seem like I need to reset the electronics in the battery somehow to get it to try and use the replaced cells.

Anyway, really nice to find this place and that there are others who still appreciate was the Mac really was, rather than the hollowed out shell it has become.

Kim
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Post by: IIO on August 06, 2019, 10:02:35 PM
Hello all, I am a curator at the National Music Museum and am here for DAW topics. I have a Mac II for which I am interested in sourcing sequencing software. It is on OS 6.0.7. Any help appreciated!

lol, we attract people from musems. i still develop software for OS9.

i see myself sitting in a glass showcase and people visit that place and explain to their kids: "look, he is still working in the past."
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Post by: OminousSilence on September 11, 2019, 09:30:12 AM
Hello all!

My name is Will and I hail from the windy wasteland that is Northern England. I apologise for the long time between me joining and introducing myself but no sooner had I signed up then I had to reinstall my whole system from scratch and like hell could I remember all my passwords!

I'm a life-long Mac user; throughout the last three decades I have used the following:

Macintosh Plus
One of these was in my grandad's office and I was allowed to play on it when I was tiny. The company actually had five of these, and four of them were still helping to run the business all the way until 2001! I wish I had saved them, but I was 11 at the time and had no say in it.

Performa 6200
Don't laugh, this was my first colour computer and we got it cheap in 1997. I still have it too, but I don't use it as it's become a dumping ground for other faulty bits of hardware. This was my introduction to SS7 and later OS8, and since my best friend at the time had a IIvx we would usually share any games we bought which meant twice as many games!

iMac Five Flavours (Lime)
We got this second hand in 2001 and it broke down after eight months. We were refunded and I went back to using the 6200 for a while, until in 2003 my parents agreed that it was entirely useless as a computer and I used a Windows XP laptop for a while since all the school computers were Windows by then too. Poor Acorn.

Mac Mini 1,1
The Mac Mini was bought new in 2006 for my A-levels but — like the 6200 — was grossly underpowered. I still have it but the internals are completely shot after it cooked itself, but I am going to use the case for a picocomputer project at some point. The Mini was the first time I used OS X as my main system and it was a lot of fun by that point; Tiger was and still is the best version of OS X.

MacBook 4,1
The MacBook replaced the Mac Mini when I went to university in 2008. I had the black one, because goth, and I pulled the screen apart in order to slip some green plastic behind the logo so that it wasn't boring white anymore. This laptop followed me everywhere for three years and I somehow managed to not ruin it; a friend of mine now uses it exclusively as a music machine with some old software that needs Rosetta.

MacBook Pro 8,2
This laptop lasted eight years until January this year. While other 2011 models were dying left and right from Radeon Rot, mine just kept on soldiering on regardless. I used it for everything between video editing and gaming, down to browsing and typing, pretty much every day. It ate two batteries, three power cords, had a replacement number 3 key, and finally died of self-melting on new years day. Lest auld aquaintaince be forgot, and all that.

Macintosh Classic II
This little beast popped up on eBay for £80 in an area of Scotland that I love driving in anyway, so we made a day-trip of it and now it lives with us. System 7 has been installed, and it runs so very, very smoothly with 4 megabytes of RAM.

---

So with my MacBook Pro dead, I did what any other perfectly normal and sane and not crazy person would do. I went on eBay and bought a Power Macintosh 5500. I won the auction for far less than I was expecting, only to discover not only did it have all the video cards still in place and working, but it also had a Sonnet G3 processor card in the L2 slot so it's possible that I own the only 400MHz PowerMac 5500/275 (yes, the black one, of course) on the continent.

And that's why I'm here, because yes indeed, the 5500 is my new daily driver. Sure, the Internet is a pain in the backside — this forum works though! — but who cares when I have almost unlimited free software and a computer that can be forced to single-task when I want all that tasty G3 power, with a gorgeous cathode screen display (16 meeeeellion colours!). The only let-down is the keyboard (AppleDesign Keyboard II) which is like typing on the flesh of a whale that has been beached in direct sunlight for a week, so I actually use the ADB Keyboard II from the Classic instead.

It's funny really, OS9 is probably the version of MacOS that I've used the least, but it's certainly the one I'm having the most fun with. Moving from a 2.4GHz machine with 16GiB RAM and 1024MiB of video memory to one with a 400MHz processor, 128MiB RAM and only 2MiB of video memory is refreshing, rather like a purge of unnecessary disctractions; minimalism in the extreme using a machine that was top of the line in its time 22 years ago!

Well, that's all the interesting stuff out of the way anyway! Thanks for accepting me into the forum, and I hope to speak with some of you soon!
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Post by: FdB on September 11, 2019, 11:17:43 AM
Welcome aboard Will. Great to hear from the “frozen tundra” of the great-white UK north. (laughing)
After several days of quiet time ‘round here lately, seems that we may now be entering our Fall Season
and long time users like yourself are again “coming into the flock”. The more, the merrier. Welcome.

“Where’s that confounded bridge?”
                            -R. Plant & B. Johnson
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Post by: IIO on September 11, 2019, 11:41:43 AM
MacBook Pro 8,2
This laptop lasted eight years until January this year. While other 2011 models were dying left and right from Radeon Rot, mine just kept on soldiering on regardless. I used it for everything between video editing and gaming, down to browsing and typing, pretty much every day. It ate two batteries, three power cords, had a replacement number 3 key, and finally died of self-melting on new years day. Lest auld aquaintaince be forgot, and all that.


really, really sad. but thats how stuff looks like today.
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Post by: OminousSilence on September 11, 2019, 02:34:18 PM
Thanks peeps! Glad to be a member. I'll lend some expertise and ask some daft questions over time, have no fear :)

@FdB it's not always frozen up here. I almost had heatstroke this summer as the mercury touched a whole, positive 20ºC!

@IIO Yup. They certainly don't make them like they used to!
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Post by: Monotremata on September 14, 2019, 11:05:54 PM
Welp, another new guy here.. Found this place awhile ago probably looking for something to do with Sound Diver which I still need to this day. Glad to see lots of folks still keeping the OS 9 audio thing alive.. I know I have plenty of stuff that still needs it in use! Probably ditching Sheepshaver and just getting out the old G3 or dual AGP G4 since I have an old sampler on the way and need to resurrect the old Adaptec 2906! Hopefully it will be as 'painless' as it was 20 years ago so I wont have to bug you guys too much!
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Post by: Largephotoguy on December 03, 2019, 07:03:00 AM
I've used Macs since my IIX days but still prefer OS 9.  I continue to run FoxPro, Pagemaker 6 and other programs.  No crashes, no problems.
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Post by: OminousSilence on December 12, 2019, 05:28:48 AM
Welcome! :D

@Monotremata funnily enough it was an ATI video driver that brought me here myself! I certainly would try keeping your old hardware in use; if anything it keeps them from filling up with dustbunnies!

@Largephotoguy right there with you. Sure, I have a MacBook roaming around the house somewhere, but I'm far happier on Classic still!
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Post by: OttersLikeApples on January 07, 2020, 06:26:33 PM
Hi, I Found your forum after wondering if anyone still ran os9 and thinking about doing some coding.
I have owned a lot of macs
My list of rigs that have treated me well
iBook G3/466 SE
5 Different Emacs
Apple Macintosh IIfx
2 Different Cubes One that had the full speakers and screen
iMac G4 Sunflower
Macintosh Performa model number I can't remember
Apple Power Macintosh G4 733
Apple MacBook Pro 15 Core 2 Duo 2010
Apple MacBook Core 2 Duo 13 2009 With custom black outsides and white insides I cobbled together for $300 in 2013
Apple Mac mini Core 2 Duo
Apple Mac Pro Eight Core
Apple Macbook Pro 2018 Current Machine
Thinking about picking up a Powerbook G4
More IPods then you can shake a stick at..
Hope That I can hang around in the shadows and learn some stuff.
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Post by: mrhappy on January 08, 2020, 06:47:19 AM
I Found your forum after wondering if anyone still ran os9

I guess you found your answer!! Haha!  ;D

Welcome.
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Post by: tommacman on January 15, 2020, 12:42:24 PM
Greetings to everyone!

I have not used a Classic Mac OS computer in many years but I got frustrated with the complexity of modern MIDI software and longed to return to the simplicity of EZ Vision (my first sequencer) and Music Shop. In my research to find folks knowledgeable in Classic Mac OS and where to find older software, I found Mac OS 9 Lives. Your wealth of knowledge is nothing short of amazing!

My first Mac was a Classic II back in 1992 followed by a Centris 650 - man, that baby was a screamer! Lol.

I am new to all of this so I need to get a primer on how to post a thread on this site to begin with. Can anyone help me with that or point me to the "How can you be so dense" sign?

Tom
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Post by: ireneclamshell on February 02, 2020, 07:09:17 PM
My Apple Clamshell Story
(by Irene B.)

My story begins 23 years ago in 1996 when I moved to rural southeast New Mexico. I was 36 years old and I'd never typed on a word processor, never been "online" , and never even seen a cellphone (that I recognized as such) . 
Shortly after I arrived to my homestead at the end of a BLM 2track without landline connection, I read about emailing and then I learned to use the library computer in town so I could email and keep in touch with family.
Etc.

I bought my 1st apple computer, a refurbished iMac that was about 20 years old, in 2005, and this is when I discovered beautiful and amazing, slim and trim, ultimate in functional, Mac OS 9  :)  ! 
Wow  =:o  !   
I hooked up an Epsom printer to my iMac/square bowling ball desktop computer, and WoW again, Gorgeous colors   :) ! 
Too much prairie dust got into the dvd slot drive of my iMac and I opened up the square bowling ball to try to clear the drive out and not only could I not fix the drive, but the main iMac screen slipped sideways  :/  .

Next, I bought a one-owner used clamshell laptop, the orange version, running the full OS 9 suite. Very Nice, and I had lots of fun for a few years lazing and typing on my outdoor hammock before the aged clamshell plastic cracked from high-desert sun UV rays.

So then, I bought a lot of 4 online auction clamshells from a school closure. I mixed and matched them, and from remaining parts and a few chip upgrades I'm still enjoying my auction purchase today :) !
One clamshell was "Richard Nixon's Computer" but I don't really think so but it's fun so I still pretend that it's Richard Nixon's Computer  :) .

Over the last 15 years, I've enjoyed various Mac OS's and updated computers like a 2007 MacAir with the razorsharp edges and a 2012 MacMini. 
Also I favored a Hackintoshed Dell Mini 9 :)  .

My alltime allstar #1 favorite Mac OS, to date, is the simple elegant and supremely functional Mac OS 9  :) .
"It's never as good as the 1st time."

I feel honored and humbled to be here in this Mac OS 9 forum !

Sincerely,
-Irene.

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Post by: mrhappy on February 03, 2020, 06:49:44 AM
That's quite a story Irene... welcome's aboard!!! Oh... and BTW... "I am NOT a crook!"  ;D ;D
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Post by: ireneclamshell on February 03, 2020, 05:26:14 PM
Thank you,  mrhappy :)  !
And with a smile like yours, who would ever ever imagine that you could ever ever be a crook  ;) ::)  ?
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Post by: acoustiq on February 15, 2020, 05:57:36 PM
Hi guys,

Good to be here, in the land of old Macs!

I have quite an interesting little collection of old computers, and among those I have a bunch of old Apple hardware: the Macintosh 128K, the Mac Plus 1MB, the Mac Classic, a IIci, an LC, an LC III [modded], a Centris 650, a PowerMac 6400/200, a G3 Server, A G4 FW800 DP 1.42, A G4 Cube and a G4 15" lamp. I might have a couple of old laptops as well, but these are all working fine. All I want for my Apple collection is a Lisa [dream on...] and a G5 Quad, just for the hell of it.

Trouble is, it's getting harder and harder to find old software and people that know how these machines work, so here I am :)

btw, I think Apple lost it's soul when they moved to Intel, so I'm staying with MOS / Motorola / PPC. IMO Intel-era Apples are just expensive, moody, fashion-oriented PCs. So I prefer a proper PC for that. You know how it is, the right tool for the right job.

A friend asked me a few days ago to help him out with his G4 MDD FW400 [DP 867]; he only wanted OS9 on it to play around with some old DAWs and couldn't figure out how to install 9.2 from the images he found [some wouldn't boot, some wouldn't find the HDD, etc]. It took me about 40 minutes altogether using the MacOS9Lives 9.2.2 restore image [including burning the disc with Transmac]. Cleaned up the HDD with a bootable 10.4 disc, then everything else done from the restore image. Flawless install and sooo easy to do. So, thank you so much for all the work that went into that image! Great job!

Also, since it was so easy to do this, I just might install it on my G3 Server, just for kicks :)

I've lost myself in the world of MS and *nix in recent years, but it sure is nice to get back to the old machines. I have to find some time to play around with the old Macs, Suns, SGIs, DECs and all the 8bit machines I have [it's not just a collection, they're my favorite toys ;) ]

I have little spare time available, but I'll sure be in and out of here, looking for ideas or hints and maybe helping out if I get the chance, although I'm sure my Apple knowledge is quite limited compared to some of you.

Cheers!
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Post by: mrhappy on February 16, 2020, 08:31:05 AM

Good to be here, in the land of old Macs!


Yes it is!!! ;D Welcome aboard.
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Post by: sinhu on February 17, 2020, 12:40:54 AM
Hi,
My name is Ingvar and I live in the north of Sweden. In 1995 I became interested in Mac and have so been since then. My very first Mac was the iMac DV 1999 that I got through my work. Since them I have had lots of Mac´s, mainly the once before OSX, i.e 68K and PowerMac´s. Mac´s bought in the old days for USD 10 now costs USD 100 or more. It is also harder and harder to even find them and fantasy prices are very common among folks who know nothing about Mac´s .
My collection now is only a few but it is slowly growing. Recently purchased an iMacDVG3 that I by misstake tested with OSX without upgrading the firmware. It has now ALL the bad symptoms and sofar I can't´t get it up and running. Well, I have not given up yet but it is getting closer :-)
Looking forward reading lot´s of interesting knowledge in this forum.
Cheers / Ingvar
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Post by: DCGSXR750 on February 19, 2020, 10:36:16 PM
Hello,
DC here from California. I have been a long time Mac user, currently trying to repair and fix my old G3 233Mhz that I bought in London UK moons ago... I am very excited to be part of this forum.
Thank you for a great site :)
Best, DC
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Bolkonskij on February 21, 2020, 12:46:52 AM
Welcome Mr. Norrland! :)

Yes, i bet everoyne of us has seent those fantasy prices on ebay often set by people who can't even spell the model name correctly. ("But look, there's one other offer for the same Performa for 150$!". I remember the days when most people were happy you'd take the old stuff from them for free to spare them the recycling.

Oh well, times change - our favorite OS does not! :)
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Post by: dajhorn on February 29, 2020, 06:02:27 AM
Hi all,

I have a two SE/30, a G4 Cube, and and a G4 MDD. I'm here for tech talk, and am glad to see an active community.
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: locomostivzigreer on April 06, 2020, 05:06:56 AM
Hello from Paris ! Me and my iBook G4 are very happy to have found you all.

 ;D

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Post by: Bolkonskij on April 07, 2020, 04:25:23 AM
Welcome welcome! The more OS9ers, so merrier! :)
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Post by: DecoySportGame on April 17, 2020, 11:33:35 AM
Very happy to have found this site when researching possibly installing OS 9 on a G4 Mac Mini.
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Post by: Jacques on April 26, 2020, 11:19:06 AM
Hello members,

So pleased to have found this site, I've been a Mac user since 2002 and Amiga before that from the late 80's. I've also done some x86 Windows time while training in architecture.  My first Apple Mac was a 1Ghz G4 Tibook with 512mb ram, I saved up for 6 months for this machine and worked extra jobs and overtime at work to save up the £2,200 to buy, then 6 months later the alumininium G4 came out, but I still loved my Tibook. Having grown up in South Africa before I moved to the UK, Apple Macs were rather out of reach for the average Joe Blogs. But I always used to visit the BAT (Bartle Arts Theare) centre in Durban where I'd drool over the latest macs. In late 2008 my cat jumped on my open Tibook and snapped the hinges straight off. (Bless, he was only a kitten...and yes my cat is still around! :) )

Since then I've had a 2008 Mac Pro, 2012 Macbook Pro and more recently a 2010 Mac Pro (dual 2.93Ghz), this together with my Macbook Pro are my daily drivers and won't be replaced anytime soon...Speed, capacity, processing power and storage is all I could ask for and need.

I joined the Mac community, sadly at the end of OS 9, and the beginning of *nix era 10.X's. My exposure was mostly in the graphics and architecture side (ArchiCAD, Photoshop) but I later got into amateur photography and used my Tibook for this until I could no longer use it headless.  I then bought my 2008 Mac Pro for £1,800 brand new and used that untill 2012 when I bought my Macbook Pro as we had limited room in the place we lived.

My other IT interests include a bit of Linix here and there, but my main other interest is SGI machines. I own two very fine examples of mid to late 90's SGI workstations - a SGI Octane (mips R12000 400Mhz, VPro gfx, 1GB ram)  running IRIX 6.5.30 and my little SGI O2 running a R5000 300Mhz mips processor and alternatively, a R12000 300Mhz processor. I've also got the matching 1600FP card and SGI display to go with it. The Octane could, in the late 90's, run 8Gb of ram...quite an achievement...You would have had to take out a small mortgage to afford it though!
   
Roll on to 2020 and I'm looking to pick up either of the two G4 Powermacs I most covet most - A G4 Quicksilver or DP G4 MDD (not the last version released). If I could I'd like to get ArchiCAD 6 going on OS 9 and I'm also on the lookout for Nikon Capture NX, the software I got with my Nikon D50 (which I still use to this day). I used this on my Tibook before I learnt Photoshop.

Anyhow, great forum and site, look forward to reading a lot more on here.

Jacques


Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: tdksa90 on April 30, 2020, 07:00:27 PM
Hello everybody!

I'm a recording engineer and musician. From 1999-2006, I worked in a large local retail store that was exclusively Mac, and since I had a little experience, I was designated as the IT person. They set me up with a G3 mini tower, and had me designing their ads and sales flyers, updating their website and working on their sales database. By the time I left, I was rocking a 2005 G5 Power Mac with OSX Tiger.

Fast forward 15 years and I have my own recording studio. One of my regular clients has a hard drive filled with songs recorded in Pro Tools Free, and wanted to finish many of those songs. At first I tried AATranslator, an excellent program that allows one to transfer projects from one DAW to another (my day-to-day DAW is REAPER, with Logic Pro a close second). However, PT Free sessions didn't transfer correctly using AAT. I know I could probably find a copy of PT 10, but I couldn't be sure that the projects would open 100% correct. So, I decided to go back to the source!

A friend gave me a 2002 iMac Flat Panel and I got to work with the OS 9.2.2 install that's found here, as well as the copy of Pro Tools Free that's available. All of these projects are opening! I'm bouncing out straight mixes for the client now. Perfect!

I found a bunch of my backup DVDs from 2005, including backups of Quark Express and Pagemaker. I just might use this machine for more than just this Pro Tools project! Brilliant!!
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Post by: andy24fps on May 25, 2020, 07:32:25 AM
Hello and thank you for having me in this forum.

Recently, I've resurrected my Roland S-7xx sampling studio and a newly acquired PowerMac G4 OS9 has been a vital part of this process.

I appreciate all of the valuable resources and experience this site provides.

Andy

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Post by: Kaneosaurus on May 28, 2020, 10:34:53 PM
I'm Kane. I'm here because the Coronavirus has me stuck inside tinkering with old electronics and I have found an immense nostalgia for Mac OS 9
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Post by: AlistairMarric on June 16, 2020, 08:44:29 AM
Hello, Thank you for adding me to your Forum. 
I found Mac OS 9 Lives forum out of shear frustration trying to understand and learn a new OS, having recently acquired a couple of my 'bucket list' computers; iBook g3 clamshell and powerbook g4 aluminium model, both requiring a fresh OS install and coming from a pc environment, I find apple a wonderful, strange and sometimes a little confusing world.  I want to understand how to use OS 9, it's strengths and weaknesses,
so that I can install and use with confidence one day.
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Post by: user2020 on June 16, 2020, 10:17:58 AM
Hello, Im' merely here because I need a specific OMS driver that will let me use an ancient sound module editor :)
Title: Restoring Graphite 400mhz iMac
Post by: CaptainXeroid on June 26, 2020, 05:24:20 AM
Hi, I'm Glen from Tucker, GA.  Like a lot of people, my wife & I ran out of projects during the house arrest/shutdown, so I pulled the iMac out of storage.  WAY back in 2006, a chip on the OG HD overheated and exploded.  A local shop installed an 80GB and loaded 9.2.2/OSX.  Back in 2011, we were moving out of a large rental house into a family owned condo and had to purge a LOT of stuff, including my vintage Mac collection and most of the software.  Sometime after I had reformatted the iMac's HD, I realized I did not have an OS9 disk to reinstall, and since we have 4 other OSX Macs, I didn't need the 'new' stuff on this one.  Glad I found this site & looking forward to reviving some OS9 memories.

Current Mac arsenal – Graphite 400mhz iMac, Mid 2007 2.8Mhz iMac, his & hers late 2008 MacBooks, and 2001 2.7 GHz Core i5 iMac

Previous Mac – Classic II, Performa 600, IIci, plus at least 50 others I rescued from folks who didn't know what they were including thrift stores. 8)
Title: Re: Members Introduction... time to reflect on our past that got us here :)
Post by: Ian kingsbury on June 30, 2020, 01:46:19 PM
Hi UK based I have been using macs since my plus in 1984 ,just started my own business and was looking for a desktop did the DOS thingy and then I heard about Apple since then have owned most models good and bad
But stopped at my G4 eMac with classic and 10.4.11 never owned an intel machine too much hard work.
I have a lot of early software too and will dig it out some on old Macworld discs.
64 this year and a Stonemason.
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Post by: Jacques on June 30, 2020, 01:52:42 PM
Hi Ian, good craft (and trade) there. Also UK based here, down in good ol' Somerset.

Grew up in South Africa...not many Macs there. Came to the UK in 2002 and Macs in just about every techy shop window :)
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Post by: bsalazar on July 02, 2020, 12:08:59 PM
Hi! Brently here. Just fired my old Powerbook G4 Aluminum back up. Wanting to run some of my old OS 9 games on it but can't find my OS 9 install disc. Happy to be here. Thanks for having me!
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Post by: deviousgeek on July 04, 2020, 05:08:48 AM
Old school Amiga user dropping in after getting a PMG4 (MDD/FW800) going with MacOS 9 thanks to this forum. :)

Required for some software development work.
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Post by: hotcactus on July 30, 2020, 08:52:54 PM
Hola. New to the group and looking forward to checking it out. Go Mac.
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Post by: DrNo7 on August 01, 2020, 05:55:15 PM
Hi everybody,

I started my Mac journey early 90's with a SE/30 and been into PPC Macs ever since (x64 Macs are missing the magic effect...).
Still scratching the itch these days with a Ti 1GHz and an Alu 12 1.5GHz.

Already thanks to people on this forums for pointers about SSD (and making me discover the JMicron 20330) and for tapping into my curiosity like back in the days with the OS 9 on the last G4s.
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Post by: MrVitalic on August 01, 2020, 08:38:41 PM
I'm an amateur mix engineer and also amateur electronic music producer. I'v been using x86 pc all my life but then switched to a 2006 macpro in 2016 because I was tired of reinstalling windows every 6 months because of audio dropout in my software (on a modern pc at that time). Two years ago, I got my first G5 out of curiosity, so I started exploring the possibility for modern audio production on it. To get started on absolete hardware is rough at first ahaha but now I have almost all I need. I got seduced real quick on producing music on old hardware and I dont use my macpro anymore, it is only used to pay bills. I do almost everything on my G5 now. 

I fully understand that I'm on os9lives and atm I'm looking to buy a G3 or G4 to be able to explore the possibility on os9. I never used os9 and cant wait to have a go with it (already a fan of the platinum sound effect).

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Post by: yotsugawa on August 01, 2020, 08:54:48 PM
Hi from Australia!
The first Mac I got was a Blueberry iMac G3 off eBay when I was a kid. This was in 2008, so it already seemed very old when I got it. I remember being disappointed that it came with OS 9.0.1 instead of OS X, but I ended up really coming to appreciate the Classic OS. I sold it and  then had an eMac running 10.3 for a few years.
I’m a university student now, and had lost most of my active interest in computers over the years. But during lockdown I decided to acquire a few old Macs that were going cheaply, in hopes of cleaning them up, getting them running nicely, and then selling them on (hopefully for a little profit). It’s satisfying to take part in the preservation of these wonderful old machines. And through that, I’ve been inspired to revisit OS 9 properly, and explore what I missed when I was young.