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Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI => Digital Audio Workstations & MIDI Applications => Topic started by: MisterKeeks on March 29, 2014, 05:52:07 PM

Title: Building basic recording setup
Post by: MisterKeeks on March 29, 2014, 05:52:07 PM
I am looking to build a simple recording setup to record a solo cello playing (myself). I already Have a 1.25 Dual MDD that I plan to use. My question is: How do I start? I won't be doing much, or anything with MIDI. I just want to be able to record a solo cello and learn to do some editing. What software in OS9 should I use, what do I absolutely need to get?
Title: Re: Building basic recording setup
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on March 29, 2014, 09:33:06 PM
I am looking to build a simple recording setup to record a solo cello playing (myself). I already Have a 1.25 Dual MDD that I plan to use. I just want to be able to record a solo cello and learn to do some editing. What software in OS9 should I use, what do I absolutely need to get?
To record a cello I would take the MDD outside the room at first.
It depends on your interest. Ocasional recorder can work with Logic Fun/ProtoolsFree.
I would buy an Motu/Digi001 if have funds...
MDDs and Cello   ???   
Try to silent your MDD if you dont have long cables
Title: Re: Building basic recording setup
Post by: Knezzen on March 30, 2014, 03:22:57 AM
I would get a basic Pro Tools 24 MIX system and a 888/24 audio interface. Great converters and a kick-ass system in general.
Gives you a very professionally sounding recording.

Can be found on ebay very cheaply :)
Title: Re: Building basic recording setup
Post by: MisterKeeks on March 30, 2014, 08:43:26 AM
To record a cello I would take the MDD outside the room at first.
MDDs and Cello   ???   
Try to silent your MDD if you dont have long cables

Yup, there is a good place near the room that I plan to put all of the noisy things.

So with the Digi001 and PCI card, all I would otherwise need would be the software (which seems to sometimes be included) and a microphone of some sort, correct?
Title: Re: Building basic recording setup
Post by: supernova777 on March 30, 2014, 08:50:01 AM
Yup, there is a good place near the room that I plan to put all of the noisy things.

So with the Digi001 and PCI card, all I would otherwise need would be the software (which seems to sometimes be included) and a microphone of some sort, correct?

keeks!
theres tons of information for you here on our site..
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?board=42.0

browse this section to find all the available options u seek..
if you are just recording a few channels at a time, im sure Diehard would reccomend you buy a
M-audio audiophile sound card.. which can be had at an economical price + produces great results
but this interface lacks a xlr mic in (im guessing u would want to use an xlr mic?)
edirol ua-25, digi001, da-2496, motu 828, tascam-us428 all feature xlr in.. but
this is why its best for you to take a look at the options yourself + check that u have the connections
for everything u will need..

this topic here will take u on a tour of all of the available options
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=362.0

the biggest decision is which software u will use because it has an impact on the particular interface u must choose
keep in mind pro tools guy suggested teh digi 001 because he loves protools;) which requires that hardware to even use it at all
if you are using any of the following programs to record:
-cubase
-nuendo
-logic
-live
-digital performer
--then you have literally no restrictions for which interface to pick
digidesign are the only a**holes that make u use their particular interface :D


Title: Re: Building basic recording setup
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on March 30, 2014, 08:55:41 AM
Protools 5 LE 5.1 and the 32 track pt5 are here. Put the MDD on the noise room, the 001 rack as close as posible. 2 usb male-female and 2 vga male-female.
And you are in business

You will need an Condenser microphone and XLR cables. Maybe a male-female 6.3 jack for you headphones
Title: Re: Building basic recording setup
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on March 30, 2014, 09:01:39 AM
An Protools TDM setup will need also somes preamplifier.
It should be cool to record the instrument close to the bridge and the room also (2 mics setup minimum for pro-results)
I can take good sound with one GOOD microphone, but I would mount another in the room just in case..
Title: Re: Building basic recording setup
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on March 30, 2014, 09:06:03 AM
pro tools guy suggested teh digi 001 because he loves protools;)

digidesign are the only a**holes that make u use their particular interface :D

Motu are assholes too, but most pro in USA are digitalperformer/protools/logic
Sorry to say this, but Apple are the biggest assholes in market.

I love OS9 but hate apple since G5s    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Building basic recording setup
Post by: MacTron on March 30, 2014, 09:24:43 AM
Firstly you should try the built-in audio input of the MDD.
For a basic recording may be enough.
But this audio input is line-level, so you need a mic with line-level output. ( if you connect a mic directly to this, the audio would be too low).
The recording software would be SoundEdit 16.

http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/soundedit-16

Or if you need a little more, then you can use Deck 3.0

If the results don't satisfy you, then you can buy a more PRO setup as were recomended before.
Title: Re: Building basic recording setup
Post by: supernova777 on March 30, 2014, 04:10:51 PM
Motu are assholes too, but most pro in USA are digitalperformer/protools/logic
Sorry to say this, but Apple are the biggest assholes in market.

I love OS9 but hate apple since G5s    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

LOL  ;D
i really think that a company should never force termination of any product that they offer
only in computer + audio interface industry this is prevelant..
if someone likes ur product.. keep supporting them.. and cater to them.
even if its not your main concern..
what apple did by making a g4 that is incompatible with os9.. that was just a stupid move
let the consumer decide to run whatever os they want..
i think its the stupidest thing they ever did!
but they seem to love to make things really complicated when they should be very simple

Title: Re: Building basic recording setup
Post by: supernova777 on December 22, 2014, 01:44:02 PM
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/soundedit-16
we should have this posted with the rest of our wave editors in their own wave editor category!
Title: Re: Building basic recording setup
Post by: DieHard on December 22, 2014, 02:53:38 PM
Guess it's a good beginner app, we probably overlooked it because stuff like Spark & the Powerbundle are far superior. How many Mono/stereo editors do we need...
Title: Re: Building basic recording setup
Post by: supernova777 on December 22, 2014, 03:52:24 PM
since when is this a competition of whats best?
macromedia soundedit is part of the history ..
and was one of the go to editors, long before prosoniq was even a known brand

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoundEdit
Quote
SoundEdit was the first popular GUI-based audio editor for digitized audio. It was not only one of the first important audio applications for Macintosh, but one of the first significant audio applications for personal computers in general. The default sampling rate was 22,256 Hz.

id say that qualifies as historically relevant!!!!!!!!!!! wouldn't you???

Beginner App LOL
its the big grand-daddy godfather that came before every other app on this site.

show some respect !!!
bow down and kiss the ring of soundEdit16.

"I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse."

http://www.soundonsound.com/Contents.php?Month=11&Year=1992
back in november 1992 .. writeup on macromedia soundedit
article offline ;(

MACROMEDIA SOUND EDIT PRO

Quote
Macromedia Sound Edit Pro Mac Digital Audio Software
Macromind's SoundEdit Pro promises powerful tools for editing a wide range of digital audio formats -oh yeah, and it's cheap and fun as well. But is it good enough to offer a cheap alternative to established pro sample editors? Paul D. Lehrman put it to the test.
Title: Re: Building basic recording setup
Post by: DieHard on December 22, 2014, 09:56:48 PM
Your right... I lost my fat head for a minute... please forgive my apathy and lack of enthusiasm

 :-* I kiss the Ring
Title: Re: Building basic recording setup
Post by: supernova777 on December 22, 2014, 11:16:44 PM
u mean, please forgive me GODfather SoundEdit..
LOL
Title: Re: Building basic recording setup
Post by: supernova777 on December 24, 2014, 10:12:56 AM
max1zzz has a big folder full of soundedit versions