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Title: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on August 25, 2022, 04:58:49 PM
ProTools users past / present / future
Community lets all jump in don't be shy.

**New Plugins coming!

**full Tutorial Videos Custom made for OS9Lives
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on August 25, 2022, 05:01:16 PM
Episode 1

[youtube]wFQk82wH4Mk[/youtube]
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on August 25, 2022, 05:02:42 PM
Episode 2

[youtube]GVfYcVsMuxk[/youtube]
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on August 25, 2022, 05:05:00 PM
taking request tell me what you what to see or know about
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: AtariMan on August 26, 2022, 08:40:06 PM
Hello. I have a Pro Tools Mix Plus and SampleCell 2 Plus system.
Very interesting video, thanks for this.
Can you post your plugins along with the presets?
Thank you.
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on August 26, 2022, 08:54:17 PM
yes plug-ins will be up soon
DieHard has them for hosting
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: IIO on August 26, 2022, 09:38:38 PM
if you want new plug-ins for PT you must learn max :)
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: smilesdavis on August 28, 2022, 12:41:32 AM
i would suggest a chronological topic by company a to z with plugin names and download link of all versions incl cd rom and floppy images next to it
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on August 31, 2022, 06:45:39 PM
plugins are now up and live online

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,6483.0.html
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: smilesdavis on August 31, 2022, 09:53:03 PM
no steinberg tdm? can we just make a spreadsheet with company product all formats cubase vst and compatibles / as rtas tdm nubus pci and an x so we can see what is missing and we can add? i especially think its important we can see and test which work nubus tdm which pci which both and what versions do what
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on September 02, 2022, 06:30:49 PM
[youtube]9X8yrgy-I0o[/youtube]
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on September 03, 2022, 12:17:31 AM
  :o who needs sleep anyways  :o

[youtube]StCn0hjGpO4[/youtube]

Unfortunately.....
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ProTools 5.1.3 plugins do not work with PT 5.3.1 HD  :'( :'( :'(
Anyone have a full collection they want to point me at.
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: smilesdavis on September 04, 2022, 02:13:04 PM
told ya- ive read about it
so just the core work?
no the accel?
will they work in the g4 itself too? instead of mix cards?

how many hd core/or accel cards if they work/does a flex cable connect. i think there was a limit to it wasnt it?

i mean help me understand aber 5 1 3 5 3 1 you mean cracked plugins? or whats the issue with versions.

does it run say a steinberg spectralizer tdm (since its an old plugin)
make a list of plugins that it runs and which not

the plus side is it opens up digi192 for audio interfaces to os9


there ya go

os9

http://archive.digidesign.com/compato/os9/hd/expand.html

osx

http://archive.digidesign.com/compato/osx/hd/expand.cfm#13

tech docs <2006

http://archive.digidesign.com/support/docs/

at this point we need to test which plugins work under which os and create a list because thats what it all boils down to

now help me find a 13 slot chassis with cable and pci host card please anyone
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on September 04, 2022, 03:19:27 PM
so just the core work?

Digidesign HD Core PCIX Cards 100% works
Digidesign HD Process PCIX Cards *should work / video when UPS shows up

Digidesign / Avid HD Accell PCIX Cards *! Do Not Work !*
Digidesign PDF says so.
Physical test on my rig confirms HD Accel PCIX is a no go.
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on September 04, 2022, 03:37:44 PM
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how many hd core/or accel cards if they work/does a flex cable connect.

1x Flex cable per additional card
7x Max HD cards in one rig
*that is insane I/o / track count and / DSP @ 48K 16 or 24 Bit
 
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or what's the issue with versions
the plus side is it opens up digi192 for audio interfaces to os9

PT HD 5.3.1 runs on Core and Process 64bit PCIX cards
*PT 5.3.1 may work w/ Mix farm cards but there is zero reason to do that

Good news is PT HD 5.3.1 with Core and Process cards opens up OS9 to a fresh market of hardware still available.

192 & 96 & 96i are the go to for all PT HD up to PT11 2013'
882|20 & 88|24 & 1622 interfaces connect  --> thru --> the 192 and 96 i/o
so this means if you are already into a mix system you can reuse that hardware
be prepared to pay as much for DB25 audio cables as a the 192s go for.

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we need to test which plugins work under (OS9) and create a list because that's what it all boils down to 

I have been working on this for 48 hours straight almost no sleep.
not looking good
I could use some help, leg up, windfall, fellow members , crowd source some plugins please.

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now help me find a 13 slot chassis with cable and pci host card 

becarefull, what you wish for.

Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: smilesdavis on September 04, 2022, 03:40:13 PM
damn youre right i bought a core and an accel. need to sell the accel.

so say in a mdd 1.42

one could put in 1x hd core 2x hd process (1slot reserved for atto scsi 33mhz which pro tools requires). and connect to a digi 192 via digilink and run pro tools 5 with ancient steinberg tdm pci plugins.

Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: smilesdavis on September 04, 2022, 03:43:21 PM
not looking good in terms of ?
none work
just legit ones work
its just a card connecting to os 9 but cant run plugins on?
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on September 04, 2022, 03:46:21 PM
mdd 1.42
1x hd core 2x hd process
(1slot reserved for atto scsi 33mhz which pro tools requires)

MDD 1.25
(personally uncomfortable with the Modded unsupported OS9 on this big a rig)

acceptable cards for an HD3 combo are
core+core+core
core+core+process
core+process+process

Have not touched SCSI HDD since 2004
MDD on PCIX SATA controller to modern SSD *you will never go back
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: smilesdavis on September 04, 2022, 03:48:03 PM
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Re: digi 192 i/o (2002) compatible /w mac os9, but requires PT HD 5.3.1
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2018, 03:34:40 AM »
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I did use HD hardware with OS9 and PT 5.3.1. All plugins I had in 5.1.3 with MIX hardware worked as long as you kept bit/khz at the most 24bit/48khz.
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: smilesdavis on September 04, 2022, 03:49:37 PM
im also a bit scared i ordered a hd core pcix to test this

now ive seen an image of a hdcard pci

thats a rare one for early g5 who were pci
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on September 04, 2022, 03:52:20 PM
not looking good in terms of ?
none work
just legit ones work
its just a card connecting to os 9 but cant run plugins on?

PT HD 5.3.1 uses what the Digi pdf calls TDM II

So far the chocolate and vanilla (on the CD) digirack plugins work no authorization.
and like 6-7 could run via tricky Update (if you have unmoleted originals) on a 15day Ilok ....pia... deal

THIS is NOT ENOUGH plugins to justify "for me" to move into HD in my studio.

I know nothing about ilok and TDMII all of my time has been with 5.1.3 and older.

!*! paging Knezzen and PT5LEGuy !*!
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on September 04, 2022, 03:55:20 PM
I did use HD hardware with OS9 and PT 5.3.1. All plugins I had in 5.1.3 with MIX hardware worked as long as you kept bit/khz at the most 24bit/48khz.

maybe there is a trick... :-\
or a setting... file that needs to be in place or missing.
this did not happen for me. :-[ :'( :'( :'( :-[

 :oif so I instantly will lose my wallet and my mind on ebay and reverb  :o
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: smilesdavis on September 04, 2022, 03:56:06 PM
hot dayum all i want is to use vintage tdm plugins but aes seems to be the only way
thought for a minute there i could just pop a hd core in my g4 and hook it up to a 192

lost my wallet and my mind a while ago
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on September 04, 2022, 04:01:19 PM
for a minute there i could just pop a hd core in my g4 and hook it up to a 192

You can. Just without a plugin library... (the info I have as f now)

Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on September 04, 2022, 04:04:36 PM
This cost me a fortune in dead hardware and failed purchases
to figure this out, so you wont have to
if you are serious
it would be un wise to stray or dally

Digi 13 slot works rock solid with Mix Plus So rock solid
and has passed bench test PT HD with this combo.
So if you decide Mix vs HD the same hardware applies.




Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: smilesdavis on September 04, 2022, 10:07:08 PM
the amphenol is the ticket thanks

so i do can send the mix out of a 2019 mac with hdx to a 192 then route a mult directly into a hd core that lives in my g4?
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: smilesdavis on September 05, 2022, 01:24:40 AM
This cost me a fortune in dead hardware and failed purchases
to figure this out, so you wont have to
if you are serious
it would be un wise to stray or dally

Digi 13 slot works rock solid with Mix Plus So rock solid
and has passed bench test PT HD with this combo.
So if you decide Mix vs HD the same hardware applies.

so how many mix core farm dsp can go in this rack
ive read you can do mix core instead of farm

also you need a 13? slot ribbon cable right? raaaare.

no terminator like in my nubus expansion chassis right?
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on September 05, 2022, 03:45:40 PM
13 slot chassis Maxed out

TDM
11 card Ribbon is the largest I've seen
7- Mix Core / Mix Farm Maximum Slot 8 / 9 / 10 can be Sample Cell or DSP Farm Mix
I have tested a secondary SATA card (post Digidesign cards ) in the Chassis on slot 11 / 12 / 13 and it works

HD
7- total HD Core / HD Process
should support additional Sample Cell cards but without direct internal DAW routing
aka you have to use the analog out of sample cell and come in thru an interface 192/96/888.882/1622
*Accel cards are not 5.3.1 compatible
** I have not personally tested a 7 card system in 5.3.1 on a 13 slot (ask me next week)
***I have not attempted other additional Sample Cell 2 cards or
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: IIO on September 06, 2022, 06:42:25 PM
500 bucks for that chassis... this is the only reason why i still dont have one.

as a non protools user you can not justify buying an expansion for that price, because you can hardly use 4 cards of powercore or uad-2 before you run out of bandwith in practice.
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on September 06, 2022, 07:25:55 PM
TDM handles a ton of audio in that exp chassis...
I have never used UAD-2 before how is that...???

Little research UAD-2 is PCI-E...???
*more confused now
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: smilesdavis on September 06, 2022, 11:10:56 PM
13 slot chassis Maxed out

TDM
11 card Ribbon is the largest I've seen
7- Mix Core / Mix Farm Maximum Slot 8 / 9 / 10 can be Sample Cell or DSP Farm Mix
I have tested a secondary SATA card (post Digidesign cards ) in the Chassis on slot 11 / 12 / 13 and it works

HD
7- total HD Core / HD Process
should support additional Sample Cell cards but without direct internal DAW routing
aka you have to use the analog out of sample cell and come in thru an interface 192/96/888.882/1622
*Accel cards are not 5.3.1 compatible
** I have not personally tested a 7 card system in 5.3.1 on a 13 slot (ask me next week)
***I have not attempted other additional Sample Cell 2 cards or

the amount of silly money people dare to demand for something that basically is scrap metal is silly. i got a nubus tdm expansion chassis and im looking for more cards but big but all this to run a few more instances of dverb cmon plain silly
if anyone has nubus digidesign cards or a chassis pm me everyone else get a fast m1
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on September 08, 2022, 08:29:05 PM
EP.5

[youtube]VEl74LXzE1E[/youtube]
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on December 18, 2022, 09:55:08 PM
By continued Request of DieHard..

I put this off for too long.
So no organizing or cleanup, no prep, no edits,
One take, here we go

Glow in the Dark Studio Tour.

Plz Excuse my Gluttonous Hording of gear this is what happens when you pinch n save to buy gear for 30 years straight.
I am lucky to have what I have, I try to do that justice and put it to use.

[youtube]zY8g_yuaZWs[/youtube]
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: DieHard on December 19, 2022, 08:40:52 AM
Glow in the Dark Studio Tour.

Plz Excuse my Gluttonous Hording of gear this is what happens when you pinch n save to buy gear for 30 years straight.
I am lucky to have what I have, I try to do that justice and put it to use.

Famous TAD quote...
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I've got a "couple" of guitar petals hidden in here...
Bamm... about 50 Petals appear  ;D

Watch this video and drool all over TAD's stuff, I've wiping down my keyboard now
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: tunedbytad on December 22, 2022, 01:31:42 PM
ProTools r still strong in 2022

[youtube]DEJlL0Aq01I[/youtube]
Title: Re: ProTools5 (2022 & Beyond) Detailed Tutorials, Setup & Production
Post by: smilesdavis on December 22, 2022, 07:37:30 PM
ProTools r still strong in 2022

[youtube]DEJlL0Aq01I[/youtube]

its his time capsule rig

his self marketing over the years kinda refrained me from ever listening to one of his tracks, now i did, ive missed nothing.
nice video, he seems to be a respectable nerd.